Flux Core Welding 101 - Self Shielded VS Dual Shielded

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@ktmturbo5836
@ktmturbo5836 Ай бұрын
Yeah red beard is back. And dont be afraid of taking gas shielded outside. We do it all the time. It can be quite windy outside. As long as you stand with the wind at your back and cover with your body. We use the Kemppi evo 200 one phase machine and run 1 mm 0.0394 3/64 ″ wire. Now Kemppi has the new evo 220amp one phase This can run 1.2mm wire
@lonnygehring3043
@lonnygehring3043 Ай бұрын
Jason is the best. Explains things so well. Humble and doesn't try to BS people.
@luisvega1294
@luisvega1294 Ай бұрын
Red beard! He made the channel worth watching!!
@ktmturbo5836
@ktmturbo5836 Ай бұрын
Yes indeed I stopped watching video after he disappeared
@walter2990
@walter2990 Ай бұрын
I'll be saving this video, so that I can refer back to it when I have the time to digest it completely. Thanks for posting this!
@Welddotcom
@Welddotcom Ай бұрын
Absolutely, hope it is helpful.
@dillongunter1321
@dillongunter1321 Ай бұрын
I am currently an ironworker apprentice, and fully certified, gasless flux core was definitely not my favorite but in the field it self is a huge help because your not lugging around bottles, makes life a little easier. Love the videos btw💯
@Welddotcom
@Welddotcom Ай бұрын
Yeah cutting the need to carry a gas bottle around opens up a whole world.
@melgross
@melgross Ай бұрын
Really happy to see Jason.
@Welddotcom
@Welddotcom Ай бұрын
That man is full of Welding knowledge!
@cutl00senc
@cutl00senc Ай бұрын
I got my AWS certification in 2012. I wish I could have had this channel in my toolbox back then…sure would have made it easier!
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown Ай бұрын
you got that right....
@Welddotcom
@Welddotcom Ай бұрын
We are just out here trying to help get more people interested in welding a answer questions along the way.
@JFirn86Q
@JFirn86Q Ай бұрын
Jason's the best! He's sharp and into the science of this stuff.
@Welddotcom
@Welddotcom Ай бұрын
He has a ton of knowledge on all kinds of stuff and happy he could help explain FCAW.
@sheridanblackley9394
@sheridanblackley9394 Ай бұрын
The best example of this on the net. Awesome work boys
@jackjmaheriii
@jackjmaheriii Ай бұрын
I use gas shield flux core exclusively, and I love it because it’s so easy. I’ve bent tested and cut-and-polish tested a bunch of my welds and they’re rock solid. And I use a Yeswelder so it’s not high end equipment. It’s probably the most versatile process for the guy who wants to weld steel at home.
@timblack33
@timblack33 Ай бұрын
Do you have any issues with wormhole porosity on a machine that size? What wire do you use
@jackjmaheriii
@jackjmaheriii Ай бұрын
I used to, but once I started cleaning the weld area with a wire wheel the problem fixed itself. I’ve been using Blue Demon .035 but when it’s gone I’m going to give the Lincoln a shot.
@darenscott1718
@darenscott1718 Ай бұрын
Hell yeah Jason is the man! Always super informative, presentation is always easy to understand, and a joy to watch. Unlike the chuckle head who thinks he's a comedian channeling Bob Ross. I wish Jason had the time to do this full time!
@Welddotcom
@Welddotcom Ай бұрын
Happy to work with Jason any time we can.
@morgansword
@morgansword Ай бұрын
Haven't commented in some time as my health tends to tell me when or not to do stuff. I have straight up envy of your table. I am pushing seventy five right soon and just wish we had tools and machines like this in the sixties and even up to eighties. I really don't know when these new machines came to be but golly whiz, nice welds and little efforts for nice looking great welds. Other day I seen my landlord trying to use a torch and couldn't keep my trap shut. He blows off at me and said if you can do better then hop to it. I told him to hang onto my suspenders so I don't get to be a part of it. He had metal starting to warp and nasty looking jagged looking cuts going. He also had been at it for around fifteen minutes and was getting nowhere fast. It took me more time to clean the tip, do a little prep and then slick as a whistle sliced off the offending metal he was messing up. My cut looked like a plasma cut and no slag, just straight and sweet! He looks at me and just shook his head, where did you learn all this? Oh about forty some years ago we had to buy oxygen and acetylene plus it came from the main land so getting tanks out on a job site was right expensive. Best learn quick or learn how to use a hack saw..... he is now asking me to teach him. I just wish tho I had a better memory as I have seen the newer welders that have a great many functions that are right at the fingertips.
@ktmturbo5836
@ktmturbo5836 Ай бұрын
Nice story never underestimate an older gentleman. Especially not with suspenders.
@_hector__
@_hector__ Ай бұрын
😂😂
@melgross
@melgross Ай бұрын
I started in 1973. Boy, the machines are sooo much better. I know some guys who huff and puff when they say they prefer an old transformer machine. But as far as I’m concerned, they can all be thrown off the boat and used to build a reef. I also like ESAB these days. I’ve got a 205 and am very happy with it. My Siegmund table is also much better than tables back then too.
@melgross
@melgross Ай бұрын
I started in 1973. Boy, the machines are sooo much better. I know some guys who huff and puff when they say they prefer an old transformer machine. But as far as I’m concerned, they can all be thrown off the boat and used to build a reef. I also like ESAB these days. I’ve got a 205 and am very happy with it. My Siegmund table is also much better than tables back then too.
@rudyrivera7426
@rudyrivera7426 Ай бұрын
Great video! Very informative and educational! Thanks for sharing! 👌👍
@yevrahhipstar3902
@yevrahhipstar3902 9 күн бұрын
Dualshield is an ESAB trade-name that refers to the ability to use either Argon/CO2 or 100% CO2. The gas provides the shielding and allows for a long, high voltage spray-arc that gives low-spatter high-deposition with a very fluid weld that is held in position and shaped by the slag-covering which is the primary reason for having the flux. So; gas for shielding, flux for shaping.
@M4BHoward
@M4BHoward Ай бұрын
2:50 Dual Shield. The flux is essentially a heavy deoxidizing agent that rips through millscale like nobody's business, floating it to the top in the slag (which slag also helps support the puddle out of position.) Shield 1. Shield 2, keep the atmosphere from destroying the weld. The flux isn't designed to do that; that's where the gas shielding comes in. Dual shield.
@donsmith9081
@donsmith9081 Ай бұрын
That makes sense!
@Welddotcom
@Welddotcom 29 күн бұрын
Great explanation!
@wargamingsupernoob
@wargamingsupernoob Ай бұрын
The only things I gotta say yall missed was 1) when he asked about the first pass on the 1/2" plate, Jason shouldve told him to turn the volts up. 2) running gas on self shielded wire is not only wasting gas, it might be detrimental to the strength of the weld. The alloys and deoxydizers in the flux werent designed to have shielding gas, so they're fighting that additional unnecessary contamination.
@donsmith9081
@donsmith9081 Ай бұрын
I believe he was doing it to have a little fun experiment.
@wargamingsupernoob
@wargamingsupernoob Ай бұрын
@@donsmith9081 Sure. I'm all for an experiment. However, some people may not know what I said and something critical could fail and/or someone could get hurt or die. That was my only concern. I only know what I do because I was taught in school and apply that knowledge at work with adjustments from the more experienced guys that have been held to much higher standards than myself.
@donsmith9081
@donsmith9081 Ай бұрын
@@wargamingsupernoob I Appreciate your reply. Lets hope those people know enough to stay away from all critical welding until they know what they are doing.
@morgansword
@morgansword Ай бұрын
Many years ago, I was a welder on the gas lines in Prudoe Bay alaska and also welded for Todd ship yards in Ketchikan. Musta burnt about a school bus load of rod... sure would of enjoyed a mig back then. They had some wire feed machines but I was told I had to be certified to use them.
@Welddotcom
@Welddotcom Ай бұрын
Yeah the speed at which you can weld with FCAW compared to SMAW is pretty wild.
@bryanst.martin7134
@bryanst.martin7134 Ай бұрын
I worked for a steel boat company and they were stick all the way. I was an electrician but welded my own racks. I asked the owner why he hadn't gone mig as it was far better in production than stick swapping. Checked in on him a couple years later and he had included MIG. Seemed to improve construction a bit. Can't use it in small spaces and backside of pipes in corners, but it was a big plus on hull and stringers. (Especially on the 100'+ boats)
@manyhammers5944
@manyhammers5944 Ай бұрын
FCAW rocks,Dual shield rocks a bit harder. I remember back in the day when folks,non welders said fcaw isn't good for structural welds,22 years later I would have to disagree. Nothing broke yet.
@metalheartmachine
@metalheartmachine Ай бұрын
Thank you for thorough. Professional explanation.
@roberthoy9922
@roberthoy9922 Ай бұрын
I heard you say “sometimes” when you spoke of flux core used in structural work. It’s the most common used. 3” flange column, spices using Lincoln electric 232 fluxcore 072. An LN 25 and a gas drive Lincoln 350. Bring your lunch baby gonna be there a while.
@Welddotcom
@Welddotcom Ай бұрын
That will take awhile indeed, might need to pack 2 lunches.
@roberthoy9922
@roberthoy9922 Ай бұрын
@@Welddotcom yup. Time for a mail box. Most of your 8 hour day will be right there sitting on your bucket welding 2’ above slab. Don’t forget your weed burner and temp stick. I’ve got more than a 1000 full pen welds in my career and have never had a cut out. I love being a local 29 Ironworker. But now I’m retired and now I will be going full time custom building cars and motorcycles.
@_hector__
@_hector__ Ай бұрын
With those self shielded passes, it seems to me that you either turn up the settings so you can get a flatter weld for that type of thickness or do more up and down manipulation as you travel
@Welddotcom
@Welddotcom Ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip I will have to see if I can get a flatter one like that.
@peetky8645
@peetky8645 Ай бұрын
red beard returns
@tonyturner487
@tonyturner487 Ай бұрын
Another reason for the gas-shielding in dual shield wire is the arc will cause the gas to ionize across the arc stream giving you a “hotter”, higher penetrating arc.
@Daniel_D_King
@Daniel_D_King Ай бұрын
Good to see red on the show
@Welddotcom
@Welddotcom Ай бұрын
Always a treat to work with Jason
@lorenhenderson2900
@lorenhenderson2900 Ай бұрын
Dual shield gets you sexy welds flat like a bead of calk and it is more forgiving then 232 self shielded you can push or pull
@ktmturbo5836
@ktmturbo5836 Ай бұрын
No problem to push but have you seen the test video where they show penetration test of push vs pull?
@williamthomas9463
@williamthomas9463 Ай бұрын
The flux in dual shield facilitates running out of position as the slag actually freezes before the molten weld pool. Also, I’m guessing, the flux contains iron powder therefore increasing deposition rates. I run a ton of it and always say that if you can’t run vertical up and overhead with dual shield, you better find a new profession.
@Welddotcom
@Welddotcom Ай бұрын
Dual Shield defiantly is super easy to pick up and don't think enough people know about the benefits.
@woodswalker2919
@woodswalker2919 Ай бұрын
You told us the voltage 26 but didn’t mention the wire speed ? What wire speed ?
@yevrahhipstar3902
@yevrahhipstar3902 9 күн бұрын
I'd be using 300 inches per minute.
@krisnick92
@krisnick92 Ай бұрын
Come to Australia. In the mining industry its used extensively. Like for everything over 6mm
@Welddotcom
@Welddotcom 29 күн бұрын
We would love to make it out there one day!
@Cruellers4Life
@Cruellers4Life Ай бұрын
Nice Exento LowVac you guys got there! Review soon?
@joshuapeabody2581
@joshuapeabody2581 Ай бұрын
I do believe dual shield, the gas acts as a coolant for the gun.... I'm not super sure.
@ktmturbo5836
@ktmturbo5836 Ай бұрын
Cooling of torch is just an exstra bennefit of the cold gas. But main reason is to protect weld against oxygen. But the gas also affects penetration. The slag helps to suck out Contaminants from the weld. And it works as a mold when you do position welds.
@kevinhintz1903
@kevinhintz1903 Ай бұрын
Very Kool, and informative!
@Welddotcom
@Welddotcom Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Welddotcom
@Welddotcom Ай бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@Ernie-zk3gb
@Ernie-zk3gb Ай бұрын
…at the very least, I think a gray card would have done wonders for your color dispute between the two cameras. But thanks for the info nonetheless.
@Welddotcom
@Welddotcom 29 күн бұрын
Thanks for the advice always trying to improve our videos to give the best examples we can.
@truethinker68
@truethinker68 Ай бұрын
Can dual sheild use 92 argon/8 co2?
@DavidSmith-qs8rb
@DavidSmith-qs8rb Ай бұрын
Dual shield flux core needs shielding gas because the flux aco has a lot of iron powder in in to help pick up travel speed self shielded doesn't
@Welddotcom
@Welddotcom 29 күн бұрын
Great info thank you for sharing!
@mitchstephen5491
@mitchstephen5491 Ай бұрын
How many times have you set your beard on fire 😅?
@eriklarsen7358
@eriklarsen7358 Ай бұрын
Dual shield has huge deposit rates
@user-tj4vz7gg8m
@user-tj4vz7gg8m Ай бұрын
관우인줄?
@Phantom-mk4kp
@Phantom-mk4kp Ай бұрын
Clean shirt, new shoes And I don't know where I am goin' to Silk suit, black tie (black tie) I don't need a reason why They come runnin' just as fast as they can 'Cause every girl crazy 'bout a sharp-dressed man
@Welddotcom
@Welddotcom Ай бұрын
That weld's "got legs, and knows how to use them"
@dewayne2189
@dewayne2189 Ай бұрын
I ran both running it with 75/25 gas is better to me then the gas being inside the wire
@blackbutteforge
@blackbutteforge Ай бұрын
Would you take your MIG welder outside in a 10mi./ hr cross wind? Dual sheid doesn't fair any better. It's indoor, "structural MIG" welding. It's almost as expensive as TIG welding. The absence of freeze lines makes it difficult for you to analyze your mistakes. The bead looks like a slug. Just learn SMAW and MIG, keep it simple. Don't waste your money unless your in business with a shop.
@Failure_Is_An_Option
@Failure_Is_An_Option Ай бұрын
I hear ESAB still has not toned down their turbines.
@proyevividig
@proyevividig Ай бұрын
💯💯💯💯💯💯
@jamesscully7108
@jamesscully7108 Ай бұрын
👀🇮🇪⚓
@jeffcalderon2107
@jeffcalderon2107 23 күн бұрын
Suprised u were confused on the difference
@manyhammers5944
@manyhammers5944 Ай бұрын
I hate MiG, outdoors it is junk. Looks like a sponge. fcaw gas or no looks ,smells and tastes like full pen. Just sayin'. Dang ole shit ain't broke yet!
@ktmturbo5836
@ktmturbo5836 Ай бұрын
We do alot of welding outside using dual shield. Of course not when the wind is hurricane force. But as long as you manage to position yourself so that the wind is at your back, it can withstand an incredible amount of wind. I prefer to weld with wire rather than electrodes.
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