Flywheel Lightening

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Abom79

Abom79

10 жыл бұрын

This is a motorcycle flywheel that is often brought to me by the bike shop to lighten. I thought you guys might enjoy seeing my way of doing it.
Hope ya'll enjoy!
Adam

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@GordysGoodworks
@GordysGoodworks 10 жыл бұрын
3 pounds off the flywheel is HUGE. Rule of thumb is every pound of rotating weight you can remove from anywhere in the powertrain is equivalent to removing 6 pounds of dead weight from the motorcycle. A 9 pound flywheel is really heavy to start with so taking 3 pounds off it is not excessive at all. Excellent work.
@Abom79
@Abom79 10 жыл бұрын
Great info Gordy! Thanks for sharing.
@nissan300ztt
@nissan300ztt 6 жыл бұрын
Im a cnc machinist and have learned a lot from you. Awesome videos
@2007markb
@2007markb 10 жыл бұрын
Adam I had a shaft at work about a year ago that i machined over a hundred pounds off of it. I knew there would be a lot of machining, so i couldnt resist weighing it. That was a fun job cleaning out the chip pan for that one. I agree with Bill and Tom for that matter. Ever since Tom suggested buying a composition book and jotting down notes, i have filled pages upon pages with different things i do in the shop. Everything from fixtures for repetitive work to how i do things that come along once a year. Great video, that material finished better than it was from the factory. Mark
@Abom79
@Abom79 10 жыл бұрын
Always something good to learn from Tom, and many others on here as well. I do have some notes but not all in one place like the suggestions here, its a good tip. Sounds like you had one fun shaft to machine! Even more fun to sweat it out scooping chips out of the pan. Thanks Mark. Adam
@scheppach69
@scheppach69 10 жыл бұрын
Adam you are a one hit wonder. I wish I could tap a part in my chuck which is one thou out and with just one tap get it true. You are a master machinist and a great mentor to all the newbies who rely on KZfaq to learn our craft, keep up the good work and thank you!
@Abom79
@Abom79 10 жыл бұрын
Kevin, we all get lucky sometimes. Ive had a few times that after chucking a piece in the 4 jaw, I stick my indicator on it and dont see movement. I instantly think the dial is stuck, but find out the shaft is already dead nuts true! LOL It doesnt happen often, but when it does I find myself laughing. Thanks for the support, and glad the videos are helping you out! Adam
@killroy2993
@killroy2993 5 ай бұрын
Can I send you my flywheel? Did machining?​@@Abom79
@swarfrat311
@swarfrat311 10 жыл бұрын
Adam, As always, another great video! It's great to see you back in the shop and doing what you love to do. Thanks again. Dave
@ickipoo
@ickipoo 10 жыл бұрын
As someone who hasn't done any machining except for high-school thirty years ago, I just want to say I love watching you, Tom, Keith and all the other KZfaq machinists at work - the best "Reality TV" there is - and your "toys" make me envious. Thanks for sharing, guys.
@euclidallglorytotheloglady5500
@euclidallglorytotheloglady5500 4 жыл бұрын
Adam.. 6 years!! I really hope you occasionally look back at your library of videos. EVERYTHING has progressed in such a positive way. You, you're shop, the videos them selves.. You're killing bud!
@peterpetersen5648
@peterpetersen5648 5 жыл бұрын
Love watching you work . My father had a sheet metal factory, when I was young I enjoyed going and watching the men work . Your attention to detail is amazing. Thanks for making the videos.
@vilenius187
@vilenius187 3 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite content right now. So happy to see such skill and knowledge put to work and the generosity of sharing this with everyone.
@BigMjolnir
@BigMjolnir 10 жыл бұрын
Adam, thanks for the vid. Always interesting to see a pro at work. On the clutch question, motorcycles typically have a multi-disk wet clutch (in oil), not a dry friction plate against a flywheel like in a car. Slipping the clutch in a car will burn up the clutch in a hurry, but on a bike that's a normal part of riding at slow speeds, such as making turns in parking lots. The multi disk clutch has alternating friction and steel rings that bear on each other, not on a housing or flywheel. One set of rings is toothed on the OD, and the other is toothed on the ID...clamping them together transfers power. I suspect that the magnet has to do with sensing RPM or crank angle for an ECU to use for controlling timing. -- Mike
@g.simard854
@g.simard854 4 жыл бұрын
In fact the magnet is used for the charging and ignition system I generate electricity with the stator coil the flywheel is used to store kinetic energy it help on power delivery and smooth the engine
@jemijona
@jemijona 3 жыл бұрын
I don't slip the clutch going slow on a bike. If I have to, I will pull the clutch all the way in for a bit, then let it back out.
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop 10 жыл бұрын
Great video again. I used to do that on 2 cycle dirt bikes back it the 70's. It made them rev to max fast as an electric motor but it also took away most of what little low end torque they had and 2 cycles don't have much low end torque. They had to keep the revs up. It was a fad and most dirt bike fads back then tended to last about 90 days. Keep up the good videos.
@G31mR
@G31mR 4 жыл бұрын
The low-end torque a 2-stroke has depends on the engine design and tuning. Back in the early 1970's, I motocrossed a 400 Maico. That machine had SO much low end torque, in the first two gears you had to work to stall it. I also later raced a Suzuki TM400 and had to bolt on an aftermarket 4-pound flywheel to make that bike even semi-rideable; zero low end, explosive top end . So, yes, flywheel weight can be very important.
@basxl8085
@basxl8085 8 жыл бұрын
Very good work, a real craftsman!!! We do not have enough man like u.
@reideichner8597
@reideichner8597 10 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam, You can tell you have done several of these flywheels. Good to see you back. Keep up the GREAT work! Take Care, Reid
@michaelfisher948
@michaelfisher948 10 жыл бұрын
I enjoy watching your videos, I always learn something interesting. I'm sure your customers are always pleased with your professional work. Job well done .
@michaelrodriguez-fb8fr
@michaelrodriguez-fb8fr 10 жыл бұрын
its great to see you back in the shop Abom!
@MaulTechATV
@MaulTechATV 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Adam. We've been doing this to ATV's for quite a few years. It makes the bikes rev super quick but they stall a lot easier with less momentum. Andy Maul
@Abom79
@Abom79 10 жыл бұрын
Ive been doing these for the bike shop for years too, and before they had me machine them others were.
@lastmanstandingwtsht
@lastmanstandingwtsht 10 жыл бұрын
Great video Adam-Glad your back in action. Cheers
@carlbyington5185
@carlbyington5185 Жыл бұрын
It would be cool to have a junk one, so you could slice it in half, and really see what you could work with. Great job Adam !!
@Gloveman009
@Gloveman009 10 жыл бұрын
Always interesting! Thanks Adam, you rock...
@Disinterested1
@Disinterested1 6 жыл бұрын
great job ! I think many people who have never raced bikes missed a point that you are an important STEP in bike tuning and it is 99.999% certain that the flywheel will be off for race balancing as the NEXT step along with the probable new cams and crank (which again will be lightened first) it was great to see as always Personally having had many bikes over many years I at least saw that because of the STAGE the tuning process was at a 4 jaw makes no real difference as long as structure is maintained and as always you excelled best wishes
@jimmilne19
@jimmilne19 10 жыл бұрын
Nice work as usual. You deserve the good comments and I'm sure you've noticed that praise comes not just from guys like me that are beginners, but from top professionals out there. Acknowledgement from those who have achieved excellence has got to be encouraging. Thanks for sharing; keeps the light lit.
@Abom79
@Abom79 10 жыл бұрын
Its a great feeling to be acknowledged by some of the master machinists out there. I've been very humbled by this whole social media thing. I never thought that so many people would watch my work and enjoy it soo much. Its a great feeling. Its much appreciated. Thanks Jim! Adam
@aryesegal1988
@aryesegal1988 10 жыл бұрын
Great job on that flywheel, Adam. Nice to have you back! :)
@jimzivny1554
@jimzivny1554 7 жыл бұрын
Not only do you need the right equipment, it's your knowledge and experience that makes the difference.
@kymcopyriot9776
@kymcopyriot9776 5 жыл бұрын
This video is pretty well aged now but very useful. Have always had this mod done on my race bikes. Excited that now I finally have a lathe of my own I can have a shot at doing it myself.
@falcn12
@falcn12 Жыл бұрын
Sending one out now for my track bike...
@wanabear5716
@wanabear5716 10 жыл бұрын
Wow nice work adam that is a crazy amount of weight loss on a fly wheel..And as you know the performance gain from taking that amount of weight off the flywheel incredible..Thank's..Hope all's well mate..
@mrmyford
@mrmyford 10 жыл бұрын
nice to see you back Adam, keep your head up for your family, :) another nice video "THANK-YOU" regards keith Swindon uk
@Abom79
@Abom79 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks Keith!
@DenHvideHund
@DenHvideHund 10 жыл бұрын
Awesome job Adam. I'm a bike rider myself and I know how much a lighter flywheel gives to the engine in terms of "readiness". Thumbs up :)
@buddylineman
@buddylineman 10 жыл бұрын
Nice video, you made it very clear to understand, so all of us can learn from it.Thanks.
@Talisman-tb6vw
@Talisman-tb6vw 10 жыл бұрын
This is how I would envision a production machinest to do it. You are fast and accurate - I'd love to send you my projects :P
@arm9835
@arm9835 9 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Nothing like seeing U Dudes at it. Much appreciated as well. aRM
@robertkutz9540
@robertkutz9540 10 жыл бұрын
GREAT TO SEE YOU BACK.
@k5at
@k5at 10 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing!
@Buckrun11
@Buckrun11 10 жыл бұрын
The speed and efficiency you do these jobs just blows my mind. The quality is just is fantastic. Someday I hope I can do this quality of work.
@Abom79
@Abom79 10 жыл бұрын
Better start practicing Steve! Your not getting any younger. Thanks bud, I really appreciate the comments. Remember, time is money, but less time can equal more money. Adam
@Buckrun11
@Buckrun11 10 жыл бұрын
Abom79 OH, I been practicing but you will SOON find out. The older you get the harder it is to learn new things. lol I have improved so much since I started watching you and the other guys here on you tube. You guys don't relies how happy it has made me to be learning this stuff. I really watch every second of your and Tom's videos. I don't want to miss some secret move you guys might make. Thank you to all you machinists that are making the videos. I know how much more time it takes to do something when you are trying to video it.
@Abom79
@Abom79 10 жыл бұрын
Your welcome Steve. I enjoy filming my work and sharing it. At first I thought I was just showing you guys what I do but it has evolved so much already in this first year. I plan on to keep at it. You do the same. Practice makes perfect bud, and more experience helps along the way. I'm always learning, and always will. There's a lot to know in this trade. Adam
@claudelatour1771
@claudelatour1771 8 жыл бұрын
I like the way your machines are cleaned foe next job .. very professional
@markzollo3224
@markzollo3224 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video ! Love your work.
@krazziee2000
@krazziee2000 10 жыл бұрын
nice work as usual ... thanks for the video.
@Opinionator52
@Opinionator52 10 жыл бұрын
Nice work Adam, I used to do that on automotive flywheels for local drag racers down in Gainesville... You've got to wind her up and dump the clutch, but they had plenty of power to light up the tires coming off the line! Thanks for sharing this! :o] O,
@robertdavis9743
@robertdavis9743 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam love your videos keep them coming
@andymandyandsheba4571
@andymandyandsheba4571 10 жыл бұрын
its going to rev some with the flywheel being three llb lighter i remember getting my mini flywheel lightened it use to rev like formula 1 car lol good video adam
@taomicioli
@taomicioli 4 жыл бұрын
not any more rpm, just gets to the top of the tach faster
@bsideadventures2180
@bsideadventures2180 7 жыл бұрын
keep up the good work. love your videos
@doubleboost
@doubleboost 10 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam Nice job The lighter fly wheel gives a better (faster) pick up The way you had it mounted (running true) the balance should not be a issue Regards John
@Abom79
@Abom79 10 жыл бұрын
Hey John, the balance shouldnt be far off, and Ive never had one complaint on my work, only wanting more done. I know they said it helps the bikes rev quicker. Thanks for all you do buddy! Adam
@manudehanoi
@manudehanoi 10 жыл бұрын
the setup made the face true for a facing operation but the turning was not checked. I guess Aboms 3 jaw chuck is just very accurate. I would have to use a 4 jaw chuck to make sure the center hole is concentric to the sides. Balance was also off as soom as Abom started facing because of the 3 small balancing holes on the face side started being erased. Perhaps a lighter wheel makes balancing less critical for the customer too.
@DataStorm1
@DataStorm1 7 жыл бұрын
not easy to rebalance, @18:34 you can see/hear its a bit off-center. Rebalancing would require a lot to get it right again. But by losing 1/3rd of the weight, the issue will probably be a lot less.
@Zajc3wpl
@Zajc3wpl 6 жыл бұрын
Balance will be off enough to kill bearings in 10-15k miles, not a problem in 'racer' engine that is ragged to death, or crashed, long before that. Nice and true running mass of flywheel with magnets off by good 1-3 mm(40-120 thou) would need even more balancing holes drilled than 3lb heavier one. Non concentric mass is now higher fraction of whole rotating mass. Nicely done weight reduction but should be followed by balancing to be roadworthy.
@233kosta
@233kosta 6 жыл бұрын
It was on t' piss from the factory, Adam's machining work far outdoes them, but it'll still need balancing because of A. All the other wonky factory machining he didn't touch and B. Any porosity or just general density variations within the bar stock. Can't get around these things :/
@ehess8845
@ehess8845 6 ай бұрын
Fun to watch you work...
@RandallMoore1955
@RandallMoore1955 10 жыл бұрын
I,am sure the people at the Triumph shop know first hand why they want you to do what you do something is working. Less weight faster bike, Could be wrong, And i could be right. Nice job Adam. I love Triumph,s cook it up.
@rchopp
@rchopp 10 жыл бұрын
Nice job Adam,
@jmwarden1
@jmwarden1 10 жыл бұрын
Another great video Adam, that Iscar insert does a beautiful job. By the way who won the face off, that was fun watching.
@chriskoop4888
@chriskoop4888 10 жыл бұрын
Great video, enjoyed it.
@KnolltopFarms
@KnolltopFarms 10 жыл бұрын
I'm just curious Adam...and I sure hope I don't touch upon a sore spot. I'm sure you know just how much everyone who is worth a damn loves your videos, shucks, we even love you personally! With that said, who in the heck gives a thumbs down on a nice and mellow video like this? You share your time and effort and show people a few things along the way, so I don't understand the negativity? I know, and am proud of the fact, that we live in a free country where you can express your opinions without fear of repercussion, but I guess I will never understand a person going out of their way to knock someone's efforts at goodwill and sharing when they can just move along. Why not just go on your way and watch something else? Huh...I'm sorry to bring up the lonely little hater and his one tiny thumbs down. Like I said in the beginning, I'm sure you know the people that matter think very highly of you. You are one heck of a nice and intelligent guy! Just poking through your archives looking for some shots of tool angles to try and figure out what I'm doing wrong when I saw the blemish. Nothing a little emery cloth won't polish away, he he. Aloha...Chuck.
@Abom79
@Abom79 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice comments. Every video has thumbs down, and there's people out there for whatever reason always have something they don't like about a video. Who's knows what there reason is, could be they dissagree with my technique, I talk too much, I'm boring, or they just think the video sucks. I have learned to ignore the thumbs down. Everyone gets them, no matter how awesome a video is. No matter how much you guys enjoy my work and what I show you I do for a living, someone out there will disagree with something, and a few give the thumbs down for that. But hey, thanks for all of YOUR continued support. Adam
@KnolltopFarms
@KnolltopFarms 10 жыл бұрын
My pleasure Adam, my pleasure. I guess guys like us were raised in the old fashioned way. I find it much easier to just click on something else to watch than to poke holes in someone's video. That is part of what I love about the loyal group that has been so welcoming and helpful to me here. There is just so much old fashioned support and camaraderie, it gives hope that the world isn't really falling apart like the news would have us believe ;). Aloha my man...Chuck
@michaelkrause6129
@michaelkrause6129 8 жыл бұрын
+Knolltop Farms 8 out of 1107 total aint shit... calm down
@MrLarry0001
@MrLarry0001 7 жыл бұрын
I've had a few thumbs down on my videos. I learned that a few of them were simply because of the fact they were firearm related. Aside from the one person that actually admitted to that, you never know why they give you a thumbs down.
@leegenix
@leegenix 9 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the lesson and video. Thank you.
@leegenix
@leegenix 9 жыл бұрын
More Comments: I think the negative comments are from those who are jealous of your skills. I enjoy watching them because I had dyslexia all my life and never understood decimals. All the math needed to be a success. One of these days I will get it. Well, at least I taught myself the saxophone. lol
@ChefCrash1
@ChefCrash1 10 жыл бұрын
Good show Adam!
@aserta
@aserta 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making videos!
@oxtoolco
@oxtoolco 10 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam, Finish looks great even with those holes in the part, What is the Iscar insert CNMG??. Nice job, I'm sure the owner will be noticing three pounds off his rotating mass. Talk to you soon. Tom
@Abom79
@Abom79 10 жыл бұрын
Tom, that was the same corner of the ISCAR cnmg 431 insert I used in my first face off video. Still going strong! They've been working pretty good and leave a good finish. If you could have seen the finish on the sample they brought to me years ago...OMG! Looks like someone was using a burnt up hss tool bit. From what they say it gives better performance for the bikes. I havnt gone into specifics with them though. I really need to find myself one of them fancy 6 jaw chucks! Talk to ya soon bud. Adam
@Hemanthkumar-xw3gq
@Hemanthkumar-xw3gq 7 жыл бұрын
Nice and good workmanship liked it very much.
@mandapalque
@mandapalque 6 жыл бұрын
Great video man. Thanks.
@phooesnax
@phooesnax 10 жыл бұрын
Looks great. That is a very interesting vintage tool post. Never saw one like it before.
@Abom79
@Abom79 10 жыл бұрын
I made a video called Mutifix tool post review where I talk about it.
@phooesnax
@phooesnax 10 жыл бұрын
Cool I am going to check it out. Really enjoy this littel community of tool guys that has organically come about.
@bufford14
@bufford14 10 жыл бұрын
Your nickname is now "Quick Draw McGraw" for the fasted setter upper. One hit with the homemade lead hammer and "BAM" quick draw gets er done. I know that's Keiths little saying but it fits here as well.
@Abom79
@Abom79 10 жыл бұрын
I like Quick Draw McGraw! Thats what my dad always said when threading.
@trishbarron
@trishbarron 4 жыл бұрын
Something to remember when my hubby installs his custom 80cc 2 stroke on my beach bike
@falcn12
@falcn12 Жыл бұрын
That is a heavy ass flywheel! Damn.... 9 lbs!
@gdglock
@gdglock 10 жыл бұрын
You are doing good Adam.
@jonashoglund6764
@jonashoglund6764 4 жыл бұрын
After watching your videos i want to make some precision work to! hahaha! I have never used a lathe but i love watching u do. Such skilles i would loved to be ur customer :)
@tonygriffiths2485
@tonygriffiths2485 5 жыл бұрын
Very late comment, kinda catching up. Lovely work. This is 4 years later so hope it is stil working well and the rider is safe. Have a Honda myself. Ty.
@vksubra1953
@vksubra1953 4 жыл бұрын
I like the work you do and the meticulous explanations and demos that accompany them. I noticed a few dimples on the face of this flywheel. I suppose these were used for balancing the flywheel. These were taken off when you gave turned the fly wheel. Would this flywheel have to be rebalanced?
@survivaldirtbikesllc5710
@survivaldirtbikesllc5710 Жыл бұрын
Totally rad!
@hakimmic
@hakimmic 10 жыл бұрын
Nice mod and thanks for the video
@cermem
@cermem 7 жыл бұрын
you do fine work
@CllAslnr
@CllAslnr 7 жыл бұрын
You ara teaching turning us. Thank you very much.
@mechrojo
@mechrojo 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks heaps Adam.i just bought a new hobby mans 5inch lathe and all your experience and technology is most helpful. I'm a retired motor mechanic so have your tips to learn from. Thanks again.
@joohop
@joohop 10 жыл бұрын
nice work bro
@charleshultquist9233
@charleshultquist9233 5 жыл бұрын
Don't they need to be balanced again after you've taken off a lot of the balancing holes and changed the geometry? And wouldn't it be better to finish those steps with a radius fillet for strength?
@Makermook
@Makermook 4 жыл бұрын
That's the first thing I thought, too.
@winter12ca
@winter12ca 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t matter, the customer only asked to make it lighter. It’s not Adam job to question what they want.
@epoxeclipse
@epoxeclipse 4 жыл бұрын
lighter weight is easier to balance so put this on a motorcycle wheel balancer and then drill some holes..
@RedneckRepairs
@RedneckRepairs 4 жыл бұрын
my first thought as well. that balance was for standard use, if anything, high rpm high performance use would increase the need for balancing. I figure (hope) the motorcycle shop has something in mind for that, and that the actual machining is the part needing done on this stop in its journey.
@jemijona
@jemijona 3 жыл бұрын
And what about the two timing marks? Did someone make notes on them too?
@runner19781978
@runner19781978 6 жыл бұрын
Ppl commenting about the balancing after turning. I've often found that a lightened flywheel thats been turned on a lathe will be pretty balanced. Especially on cast flywheels. You can see how out of true it was when Adam touched off the face of the flywheel and the outer radius. Turning it centered and square in the lathe will improve the balance.
@jemijona
@jemijona 3 жыл бұрын
You could see on the second face that there was runout. So it was possibly out of balance again after the diet.
@billdlv
@billdlv 10 жыл бұрын
Nice work Adam, I'm going to have to look how that flywheel is used in the Triumph. Do yourself a favor and make up a little sketch and throw it in a binder. That binder will be very useful in 10 years.
@Abom79
@Abom79 10 жыл бұрын
Good tips Bill! its always great when you have sketches and notes on repeat jobs.
@jerrya27
@jerrya27 10 жыл бұрын
good to see ya bud
@FinboySlick
@FinboySlick 10 жыл бұрын
I'm also interested in the effect (if any) on balance. Obviously since this is coupled straight to the crankshaft, it might not be easy to notice but I imagine that it's just a little bit more strain on the bearings. I'd be curious to see it mounted on those shaft inspection rollers you showed us a while back.
@aerialrescuesolutions3277
@aerialrescuesolutions3277 4 жыл бұрын
Nice work there Adam. My instructor said you were really good. He's right, Jim
@mikecwiklinski
@mikecwiklinski 7 жыл бұрын
The weight of the wheel is critical to what they want the engine to do. Did they experiment with different weights to get the desired results? I guess what I am asking is how did you come up with the formula for the first one? I would figure it was something somebody else did and gave a desired weight to end up at. Keep doing your thing Adam! Single life is best.
@VincentParisien
@VincentParisien 10 жыл бұрын
Very cool Adam, you're probably sick and tired of being asked the balancing question and I read a lot of the comments in this video and your patient repeated answer "The balancing is handled by the bike shop" but you showed us your persicion toller jig to check the balance and trueness of a shaft a few weeks ago, are you not curious about using it to check the balancing? I know I am and the bonus would be we get to see that tool in pratical use! One last question, I've started to watch videos and read the interweeb on identifying alloys, you mention that this metal is pretty hard (and it sure does look like it in the video). Any pointers how you would go about determining the alloy of that flywheel? Not looking at the actual alloy but the process you would use to determine it. Curious mind want to know. As always, we are very fortunate that you take the time to PRODUCE these videos. Filming the job is the easy part, you must spend ridiculous time on post production - THANKS for that. Take care from Cold Canada where it's -10°F and getting another foot of snow tomorrow.
@TheCrusader2009
@TheCrusader2009 5 жыл бұрын
I know this is an older vid but im curious as to the loss of balance due to the balance drillings being machined away?
@joshd8654
@joshd8654 9 жыл бұрын
Cute little thing lol..I used to mill and balance CAT flywheels damn things were near 100lbs. We did flywheels for all different companies id run about 110 parts in 10hrs first mill then balance then stamp and pack in shipping crates on a pallet. Was kinda a fun job to be honest depending on what lathe operator I worked with, hated the lazy ones makes the night drag. Made a lot of friends and a lot of parts
@henriquefreitas2734
@henriquefreitas2734 5 жыл бұрын
Nice! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🌸
@mikesheppard6810
@mikesheppard6810 7 жыл бұрын
You certainly met the customer's specification regarding weight reduction, but what about balance? Motorcycles typically run at high RPM, and leaving the flywheel even a tiny bit out of balance could significantly decrease the engine's performance and lifetime.Does the customer rebalance the flywheels after he gets them back from you, or is it something that was never addressed?
@uncleputes
@uncleputes 7 жыл бұрын
It really depends on the fly wheel...I've lightened the fly wheels in two of my bikes and the balance wasn't effected. Usually you do check the balance before you turn it down.
@DFWKen
@DFWKen 6 жыл бұрын
I always thought that the holes in the face were drilled out for balance. Is it still in balance with the holes milled away?
@jemijona
@jemijona 3 жыл бұрын
​@@DFWKen Yes, those three holes were for balance. Now that they are gone, it could be out of balance now. Spin the lathe up to max revs and see what happens eh.
@bradleywilkinson1097
@bradleywilkinson1097 9 жыл бұрын
Adam, First, thank you for making these video's. I have watched quite a few of your videos now and find them informative and entertaining. Between yourself, Keith F, Keith R, Doubleboost, mrpete222 and one or two others, I don't think I'll ever have to watch TV again! One question on this video though. I note you don't ever use carriage or cross slide stops. I would have thought on a job like this flywheel, it would be ideal to use stops so you can come up to exactly the same point for each cut (which you do with your mag-base dial gauge). Is this personal preference, or is there a technical reason for this? Cheers, Brad
@kg6tgr
@kg6tgr 10 жыл бұрын
I have been thinking about getting a lathe to tinker with and found this video highly informative. I have an old honda CB 550 and am wondering if this mod would help save fuel, as in mpg. Thanks for the post Adam.
@sam111880
@sam111880 9 жыл бұрын
nice cool can you do all the milling for creating crankshafts , camshafts , pistons , and valves as well as all the rest of the internal components of engines and transmissions
@bdrman2004
@bdrman2004 10 жыл бұрын
Just like Butta!
@pngo11
@pngo11 9 жыл бұрын
Good job.
@233kosta
@233kosta 6 жыл бұрын
3 lb doesn't sound like much, but the further out it sits on the work piece - the more effect it has in reducing this thing's moment of inertia (which is what we want) so I'd say that's pretty awesome! Before starting on this though I'd ask the customer about any load bearing features on the item and treat them very gently, and with massive radii nearby to prevent fatigue cracks. I'm guessing however that anything that takes any actual load is on the inner side of the flywheel, those fingers look like they could be clutch engagement, but they're spaced far too irregularly for that, so my guess would be they work with a Hall effect sensor for engine timing
@falcn12
@falcn12 Жыл бұрын
The starter sprague clutch and gear mounts to the back of the flywheel on most motorcycles. The ridges are timing marks picked up by the bikes ignition sensors. There is no physical engagement of the flywheel on another part to impart load. It spins around the stator that is mounted on the engine case cover to generate AC electricity which the bikes regulator/rectifier turns into safe levels for "12V DC" system.
@gordonbennet65xxx
@gordonbennet65xxx 8 жыл бұрын
hi adam, do you not lubricate on anything, like a philosophy or somthin´like that ... ?!? great work (this is my 3rd. video), by the way. i´ve learned so much from you already , thanks ever so much for all that information ! cant wait to see the next one...greetings from a limey livin´ in germany. ..alan
@esoomreltna
@esoomreltna 10 жыл бұрын
Adam, I like the set up on the lathe with the extra support from the center. Youmentioned the use of the carbide insert. Is the flywheel too hard to be cut with a HSS tool? Thanks for posting a nice clear video. Regards, Eric
@Abom79
@Abom79 10 жыл бұрын
It could probably be cut with a hss tool, but it would take forever. Thats some tuff steel. Best use carbide to you can get the job done quickly.
@KnolltopFarms
@KnolltopFarms 10 жыл бұрын
Abom79 Wouldn't an HSS tool make the part allot hotter as well, with the friction vs. cutting speed? I'm not sure warping would occur in a part that stout, but I can bet it would suck if it did!
@Bookerb2004
@Bookerb2004 10 жыл бұрын
Another great video, thanks Adam What kind of maintenance do you have to do on your 3 & 4 jaw chucks. Is their a routine maintenance schedule for these, or do you run em till they drop & then rebuild or just plain replace?
@Abom79
@Abom79 10 жыл бұрын
Just keep them clean, free of chips in the scroll, and on the 3 jaws try not to overtighten them. They dont last forever, but will give you many years of good service if not abused.
@Bookerb2004
@Bookerb2004 10 жыл бұрын
Abom79 when I first started watching machining videos, it took me a while to recognize why 3 VS 4 jaw, this time? Then the self centering, hit me awwww yes, I get it...maybe forgive me I've nether run a lathe or turned anything other than on a dime badly, so to me it was an enlightening moment. For us laymen that's what is most interesting, I'm sure you get lots of comments about technique or job approach which is why, I like the way you start yor videos. This is my thoughts, perhaps maybe, nope I decided to.....
@moonpup6262
@moonpup6262 6 жыл бұрын
surprised you didn't do any stress relief radius since it was a flywheel and all
@chucksmoko5348
@chucksmoko5348 4 жыл бұрын
The most effective way to reduce inertia in a flywheel is by removing mass further away from the center axis. Of course, don’t make it too thin anywhere.
@donpollard9460
@donpollard9460 5 жыл бұрын
4:00 - This bloke is good!
@codylaxton3287
@codylaxton3287 8 жыл бұрын
Damn I misread and thought it was going to make lightning... Very disappoint.
@carrotbailey
@carrotbailey 4 жыл бұрын
Cody Laxton Same lmao
@TheVegasbud
@TheVegasbud 7 жыл бұрын
Nice Job, what camera are you using ? Clean clear and the audio is nice !
@Abom79
@Abom79 7 жыл бұрын
I use the GoPro Hero 4 with a Rode mic.
@bills8512
@bills8512 10 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam, Why not use a expanding mandrel or make one and turn between centers?
@w056007568
@w056007568 10 жыл бұрын
That's quick work but nice bread and butter stuff for you. :-)
@Abom79
@Abom79 10 жыл бұрын
Oh yea, its a quick job for me. Ive done so many I've got it down.
@TractorWrangler01
@TractorWrangler01 7 жыл бұрын
Nice work but how do you rebalance it?
@hydroy1
@hydroy1 4 жыл бұрын
I am kind of surprised you did not fab up a stub arbor with a threaded center hole & flat washer & bolt the same size as the crank to hold concentrically to the center of the crank. Also since you cut all the balance holes out, how did you rebalance it ? I use balancing wheels when doing racing outboard flywheels Adam . ------> FLYWHEEL BALANCING: The first thing I do is make up a stub shaft to mount the wheel in the lathe. This is done as follows, a piece of stock with a bigger OD then crankshaft is installed in the three jaw chuck face and center drilled for a live center. Set the compound of the lathe so that it will cut the same angle taper with the compound of the lathe as is on the crank if it is a tapered crank, cut the taper down until your live center just touches its mating center hole and will allow you to lock the flywheel on the taper you cut with the compound. Try and keep the shaft short as possible so the flywheel clears the chuck of the lathe. Take a dial indicator and rotate the shaft to check for run out of stub shaft. There must be no run out. Mount the flywheel on the fabricated shaft and lock with the live center on flywheel tight. Check the O.D. of the wheel. My wheel was .030 out of round. A total of .070 was taken off the O.D., .035 off each side to clean up. More can be removed if wanted . After machining re balance turned flywheel on static balance wheels and drill lighting holes as needed to bring in zero spine roll back of flywheel on wheels. -------> cdn1.bigcommerce.com/n-yp39j5/4s9liwcv/products/117156/images/297507/WBS-002__49754.1462909489.1280.1280.jpg?c=2
@jansverrehaugjord9934
@jansverrehaugjord9934 10 жыл бұрын
Hello There, I am one of your subscribers (from Norway) and really enjoy watching your vids. They contain a lot of "learning material" and your style of explaining jobs & procedures is very helpful for a hobby machinist like myself. On your video here, as on others, you use the dial indicator with a magnet fixed to the back. Is this a shop mod on a regulator indicator or bought as is? I am contemplating purchasing a DRO, you see (yes, into the discussion on glass scales vs. magnetic etc. etc.), but this way of using the indicator seems to almost do away with a need for a digital read outs for short workpieces. Or am missing something? Also, the ball joint indicator mount looks like having a one screw fixing point, correct? You make it all look like easy as h.. but this device shure looks like a timne saver.. There are now some very good channels to follow, eg. Mr. Fenner's and other pro's that take their time to share knowledge... Much appreciated, keep up the good work!
@Abom79
@Abom79 10 жыл бұрын
The indicators have a magnetic back on them. They are avalible to buy from many reputable tool suppliers. They are great but I would still like to have a digital readout on the machines. The indicator holder I use is made by Noga. Ive talked about them in a couple of my videos. They are a fine tool and would recommend one to anyone.
@erichope1103
@erichope1103 9 жыл бұрын
Abom79 From one Norwegian to another. Any indicator can have a magnet glued to the back. DRO... Yeah !
@oh8wingman
@oh8wingman 8 жыл бұрын
It appears that there is some balancing drilling done on the stock flywheel (rotor). Does the lightened flywheel get dynamically balanced by someone else or is there no need for it?
@BillyTpower
@BillyTpower 8 жыл бұрын
+Norman May there is most certainly a need for. I sure hope the dealer re-balances it.
@oh8wingman
@oh8wingman 8 жыл бұрын
+Billy T My thoughts exactly. Anything less than a full dynamic re-balance would be less than optimal.
@MrSlientdeath
@MrSlientdeath 10 жыл бұрын
What brand of calipers are you using in the video? Also have you done any CNC work?
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