FM Youtubers Rate My Tactic (and Don’t Know It’s Mine)

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3 жыл бұрын

I spend a lot of time critiquing your Football Manager stuff. The tactics, the saves, the transfers, the scouting, all of that was on the chopping block in my last video. So, it’s only fair that I get my own tactic raided by two KZfaqrs I’ve worked with before. They play FM all the time, know their stuff, and will see my FM21 tactic without actually knowing it’s mine. I’ll have fun at the end telling them all their compliments or tips were not for someone else but the person they are talking to, but this should be a fun productive experience for me too.
If I’m dishing it out I should be able to take it too. That being said, I’m offended my FM tactic is always perfect. Sarcasm, but I really have been trying to improve my tactical understanding in FM21, because it has always been the biggest hole in my game in past years. I love all of the stuff outside of the match engine and actual gameplay, get the transfers and player development right, and let those wonderkids do the work my tactic couldn’t. This will help me get better and help you get better too! Win-win and another win because what a great day to be alive and on KZfaq.
Much Love,
FM Senpai
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Пікірлер: 112

@TomFM 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for having me! If I'd have known it was your tactics from the start I would have been much more brutal 😉

@Nathan-js3zl 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Tom

@nabil6105 3 жыл бұрын

Tom

@lps2013 3 жыл бұрын

You love to see it

@stansteward5615 3 жыл бұрын

@@Nathan-js3zl simp

@MegaSting1981 3 жыл бұрын

"I would destroy this tactic" Oh, come on then you two! Get. It. On!

@LooneyHoon 3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate you having me on! I’m using these tactics in the future!

@DCFCEthan 3 жыл бұрын

only record breakers deserve to be on a good FM vid 😏

@Mrmayhembsc 3 жыл бұрын

love the Norwich kits :)

@LooneyHoon 3 жыл бұрын

@@Mrmayhembsc

@mattlord97 3 жыл бұрын

The 433 with the defensive mid definitely does work, especially if you're a smaller club going up against a higher division side in a cup or something, it's normally what I've used in those scenarios and unless they're a significantly better side (like a prem side against a non league side) it works well and at the absolute worst you come out with a narrow loss, but often you can get draws and wins

@samuelevolve184 3 жыл бұрын

I mean, isn't it the best way to hear a non-bias criticism?

@lecterxradio3807 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely

@joehunt390 3 жыл бұрын

After watching your tier list for postion/roles i switched my cam from advanced playmaker to shadow striker and he has equalled his goal tally for the whole of last season in 15 games

@Jayvees 3 жыл бұрын

Your tactic is something special and a really great video to learn more about tactics in Football Manager.

@freewiley5979 3 жыл бұрын

Zealand I love the consistency lately, keep it up!

@mattypusplatypus3340 3 жыл бұрын

Right before you made that joke @0:50 about not working out as much as it looks like, I thought 'Damn, Zealand is getting broad!' lol

@skii6387 3 жыл бұрын

Really great video idea clicked straight away💯👍

@aligurjy6430 3 жыл бұрын

Wowowo i was struggling to win over athletico madrid with my valencia team in the semifinal of the Spanish cup until I saw your video and used the 4-1-4-1 and it didn't disappoint me at all I got my win in the first attempt, wowow it was very intense I was down to 1-3 in the first half bout in the second half I won 4-3 in last minutes it was very helpful thanks mate! All love from Sweden

@erethjallsen8819 3 жыл бұрын

Love the Tom cameo, my favorite youtuber for so long

@MrEimaiegw 3 жыл бұрын

i just started my first save today on FM21. I picked Deportivo la Coruna. Wish me luck! haha

@mirage5566 3 жыл бұрын

How has it gone? I'm with Coruña myself

@fifivid 2 жыл бұрын

So how is it going so far ? Hope you have fun! It's all that matters :)

@MrEimaiegw 2 жыл бұрын

I just got back at second division. I secured the title at third division and i hope for this season for at least a mid table position

@mirage5566 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrEimaiegw I think you can go straight up if you get some loans in

@MrEimaiegw 2 жыл бұрын

@@mirage5566 it's not so easy mate. Haha..i have a request from the board go sign under 23 yo players and with promising future for profit for the club. I think i could try and finish mid table (5th-10th) and maybe then try to climb up! So far i have 3/3 losses in friendly matches haha

@gazamidori2866 3 жыл бұрын

Ngl never watched your streams, didn't know your tactics. Glad to say that mine and yours and pretty much identical. I have a PF and an AM. attacking Fullbacks. Besides that pretty much identical tactics and Instructions.

@gazamidori2866 3 жыл бұрын

For full send

@smwebbo 3 жыл бұрын

6:22 when you touch something hot

@finding_aether 3 жыл бұрын

Looks like what Mourinho used when he first came to Chelsea. Thats a pretty decent tactic 😆

@tomislavhabulan 3 жыл бұрын

Toms scale, brilliant

@Seedmember 3 жыл бұрын

Some things are very subjective. "Play out of defence" with players with low mental stats is an invitation to get the ball stolen right outside your box. On the other hand, if your midfield has low athleticism, "clearing it long" can become dangerous. Then individual traits come in play and since 2020 I've seen that players get them way faster than before and sometimes completely randomly from their mentoring groups. A tactic is as good as its players and their familiarity with it. Unless we're talking about some unbalanced goofiness like 3 defenders and 7 mids. Which I honestly believe could work if you have the right players, again.

@asterisarabatzis721 3 жыл бұрын

Hello Zealand. Do you upload your tactics anywhere?

@nilspils5223 3 жыл бұрын

Could it be that on 14:00 tactic, that u force them inside on defend duty so u win the ball midfield, and then pass out to attacking wingers who are already high up the pitch and have space to attack? Can that be a good idea?

@vaaggasje 3 жыл бұрын

17:42 Classic headphones hair

@thiagogfalcao 3 жыл бұрын

Z, what's with the WBs? Why not use FBs when you have wingers in the midfield stratum?

@nateyoung189 3 жыл бұрын

Impressed you managed to get James Acaster on the channel

@benjamingillum6680 3 жыл бұрын

Rating 10 should be niran (FNG) Since he won the streamer show down

@Roscododger 3 жыл бұрын

I would love to see Looney Hoon on the streamer showdown. Great streamer, creator and a really fun guy. Edit: I called it Edit: This is awkward

@CH33KYiZninj4 2 жыл бұрын

i went 60 games unbeaten with the 433 this year thank you very much

@RobSimpson42 3 жыл бұрын

I want to know if you adjusted any of the tactics based on their feedback.

@d-towngooner5260 3 жыл бұрын

Hay dude, what would your masterful mind advise on taking advantage of my opposition using wb (att) on both sides of defense ?

@troy1190 Жыл бұрын

Big up for Zealand wearing Chinese red shirt, fan from China

@roxe-8753 3 жыл бұрын

Dw with iwb absoluely perfect well im usethem on mine from early fm 21

@jackstonbond 3 жыл бұрын

YES! I've never seen somebody suggest this on a stream or in the comments but my god I've used it for all of fm21 in different scenarios and it's incredible. DW is definitely my favourite role this FM, you can have any sort of player play it well tbh! I had a national league team save where I had 3 strikers and both of my DWs finished on 15+ assists

@aidanmagill6769 3 жыл бұрын

You can't judge a tactic if you don't know what it's trying to achieve.

@DrZaius3141 Жыл бұрын

Also if you don't know the squad's abilities, limitiations, competition.

@hugefanofgabicallumb7216 2 жыл бұрын

hey... was z talking about Bogdan Nap at 1:21 (10 being well it used to be ... but lets just put my face) ???

@ottson 3 жыл бұрын

Why the fawk would you have a sweeper keeper on defend duty?

@hariharasaimohan205 3 жыл бұрын

Wait..... isn't the first tactic a copy of Totaalvoetball?

@tyranttracergaming Жыл бұрын

Wow got recommended this video now.

@Liristis007 3 жыл бұрын

I'm a noob. Doing xbox version. 4th season currently as morecambe (asked to manage during season 2 from hungerford in VNS) I am struggling. Got relegated and currently 2nd in vanarama to get back to league 2 I dont know if I'm making money and cant bring in quality players worth the correct division I'm in it plan to get into. Plus losing games I really shouldnt like last place!

@carldone6845 3 жыл бұрын

Looks like I’m sitting on a 5 for most of my custom tactics 😩

@veeclash4157 2 жыл бұрын

I love how they just BRUTALLY TORE apart your tactics. LOL. Makes a guy want to second guess his tactics and make em a little better, maybe?

@markpost2248 3 жыл бұрын

go Chessi!!

@mikeoxmaul6699 3 жыл бұрын

Scuffed tactics tbh

@subliminalgravy1549 3 жыл бұрын

Im 13 seconds in and all i can think is Z ordered that shirt a size too small and his arms/shoulders look mad bigger than before. Also his head but ya know... (fellow 5 head bro here)

@Roscododger 3 жыл бұрын

He has had it for years. Its not new by any means and he was a lot smaller when he got it.

@subliminalgravy1549 3 жыл бұрын

@@Roscododger ah fair, not been here for years, first time ive seen it

@willynilly63 3 жыл бұрын

Can someone tell me a good, in date video, to help me install a good facepack easily. I’m new to the game and when I try to do it the faces usually still don’t show.

@shawngillogly6873 3 жыл бұрын

Don't agree with the assertion 433 doesn't work in FM21 at all. I've used it a great deal this year, to good effect.

@winsingtoniii681 3 жыл бұрын

Yep, I use it regularly and it works well, a little surprised they were saying it's less good this year. I guess it might be less good relative to how good 4-2-3-1 is this year, but that's more a commentary on how overpowered 4-2-3-1 is this year.

@jonnyhull7860 3 жыл бұрын

I play 433 with a def mid, and I've won everything I won the prem with qpr, and won the Scottish prem league with queenspark won all the leagues, its your tactics and player tactics that are key in my view 👍

@sld1776 2 жыл бұрын

The 433 is always good in FM. Every tactic has a weakness, and the 433 weakness--space between wide forwards and wingbacks--is acceptable.

@EssyOnYT 3 жыл бұрын

He just uploaded on the live channel and main at the same time 😭

@iamAyal 3 жыл бұрын

He does that very often

@lewislc2714 3 жыл бұрын

Who was the first guy he seems cool

@LooneyHoon 3 жыл бұрын

@wasabi5 3 жыл бұрын

At real game, you have to adapt the tatic during the game, you never get good results if you use the same tatic at 90 minutes, against diferent teams, the good coach adapt and is creative, best regards from Portugal

@jnca98 3 жыл бұрын

im not agree with the 451 opinions. If the wingers are in attack role, they can arrive in area easily even if they play as mildfielders

@riddis8785 3 жыл бұрын

Bro if it aint 4-2-3-1 i legit cant play, whenever i play i always use this formation and any other is just bad for me

@joemurphy4971 3 жыл бұрын

Big up Norwich City!!!

@LooneyHoon 3 жыл бұрын

OTBC

@gamewithgreg 2 жыл бұрын

Quite a few times Tom said "you" instead of "the person who submitted this tactic", so I wondered whether he knew all along 🤔

@mrfreeman2911 2 жыл бұрын

He was talking to the person who made the tactic.

@man4437 Жыл бұрын

That's like being surprised that people call her "Liz" instead of "Her majesty the queen of England and the commonwealth"

@binepivk4196 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Zealand :)

@robertwatson4676 3 жыл бұрын

Some one should tell Tom that he needs to work on his pronunciation of gegen

@stansteward5615 3 жыл бұрын

I just subbed rob GREAT channel

@hyytyyhuuto2795 3 жыл бұрын

You make your tactics and formation for players you got. Streghts and weaknesses. This vid feels stupid. More like: tell me how to abuse match engine not a boring way

@mohamdinho7907 3 жыл бұрын

424

@FranzFridl 3 жыл бұрын

F9 and SS toghether? That's like a lot of overlap. I've never tried it. And no inverted wingers or inverted full backs? I always have inverted wingers to push more bodies to the box. But I'm getting pelted at my save so...

@FranzFridl 3 жыл бұрын

@@colouredIncognito thanks! I've been playing for a wile but I feel there's more to learn

@primeprover 3 жыл бұрын

When F9 first came out the recommendation was to play it with SS

@onizuka255 3 жыл бұрын

MAKE A YT SAVE Z!!!!!!!!!!!!

@glenhoddle7694 3 жыл бұрын

Hi are you like the best fm manager in the world?

@timeandmoney84 3 жыл бұрын

Just get bustthenet on as a special guest. The input from these two wasn't great

@jameswazza3606 3 жыл бұрын

yeah bustthenet is the best. He'll be back soon.

@thomaskendell8146 3 жыл бұрын

He doesn't like Zealand 🤣

@jameswazza3606 3 жыл бұрын

@@thomaskendell8146 for real, how do you know?

@minnumseerrund 3 жыл бұрын

why is the top of your head so wide

@ZealandonYT 3 жыл бұрын

Ramming power

@MurrayC_11 3 жыл бұрын

How do they not notice Familiarity

@dalerhodes1793 3 жыл бұрын

Did u borrow a trolls China shirt lol 😆

@johnjonas1802 3 жыл бұрын

Spoiler alert. The Chinese Messi 😔

@Roscododger 3 жыл бұрын

Sad face? He was loaned in man. We're hyped about it.

@s3credryzen463 3 жыл бұрын

early check im 4th

@mihailonichevski4155 3 жыл бұрын

I love it when I'm the first viewer 😂

@OuvinteAmigao 3 жыл бұрын

thumbs down for the 1st shirt ;)

@bl8976 2 жыл бұрын

Haven't watched the rest yet but the first guy was ridiculous. Just talking pure nonsense.

@willbrown3581 3 жыл бұрын

1 should have been FNG not u, he is clear

@tombak8742 3 жыл бұрын

CHINA Show this video 2 trump

@OuvinteAmigao 3 жыл бұрын

Corona creators...

@hugocosta2645 3 жыл бұрын

You cant rate a tactic without knowing the players, every tactic can be good depending on the players you have, in my opinion is nonsense to rate a tactic without knowing the players, and even more nonsense to say that he would smash that tactic... At least in real life football