I Rate Twitter’s Tactics (With WorkTheSpace)
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3 жыл бұрынFootball Manager has one great focus it seems - who has the best tactic. Well, I’ve assembled the great FM minds, or just Workthespace, to go over some Twitter tactics people believe have caused their FM21 success. We rate them on a scale from Knap to Doctorbenjy, so naturally, this is a very scientific tactical experiment. But thank you, for sending your tactics in, and letting us dive into our dos and don’ts for tactics in this newfangled match engine.
This was a load of fun to do and we should definitely do it more. With football manager actually bouncing ideas off each other is really the best way to learn anyways. It is also very fun to make fun of Workthespace. If only for his tactic preferences. FM21 has changed the way we understand tactics in fm too, so expect more videos on tactics in the future. I am learning to study them more and continue to talk to people who make tactics as a pastime and have for over a decade. Hopefully, that is rubbing off on me. Enjoy!
Much Love,
FM Senpai
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@WorkTheSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for having me on again, was a ton of fun to record and I think it comes across in the video! I'd like the issue a public apology to all the people who use matching right-back and left-back roles but you are boring people.
@danielpinks9205 3 жыл бұрын
@@thethomascobbgroup5001 Dont dis Margherita
@EriksV99 3 жыл бұрын
@@thethomascobbgroup5001 Vanilla ice cream is fire, wym
@KonanFailsAtLife 3 жыл бұрын
I'm being personally attacked by my streamer widepeepoSad
@shawngillogly6873 3 жыл бұрын
I almost never use the same mentality on both. And I like asymmetrical build-up play because it draws defenders out of shape. But I have used a Libero this year. On attack duty. It's like a Segundo Volante who covers defensively. The tactic I used it with, a 5212, created 4 more chances per game. And it ate 4231s and 433s for breakfast. It struggled vs 442. Which makes no sense, as it dealt with wide players in the other formations. But I replaced it with a 442 diamond because I had to sell the libero.
@Cedisdead 3 жыл бұрын
Like you dont understand people who play Real Madrid I dont understand people who play the same premier league every game it must be really boring xD
@BassyBoy 3 жыл бұрын
The chemistry between you is so good and natural.
@fabriciofreitas7608 3 жыл бұрын
C é gay
@kitrankin2619 3 жыл бұрын
pog
@deanmiller6463 3 жыл бұрын
Feels like two old men sitting on the porch.
@deanmiller6463 3 жыл бұрын
"Back in my day as a young manager I used to have a DM on defending." " I heard they use HB's now." "Well chap that's how it goes."
@shawngillogly6873 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! I feel targeted! And I'm not 6'3" tall.
@deanmiller6463 3 жыл бұрын
@@shawngillogly6873 you're not? Cross em off the scouting list guys
@aw2584 3 жыл бұрын
Its two old men sitting in front of their computers so not far off
@ImmaterialDigression 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Please do more with WorkTheSpace!
@romapires 3 жыл бұрын
11:05 Distribute to playmaker 11:07 has no playmaker on the pitch
@deeznoots6241 3 жыл бұрын
New meta
@justawarlord 3 жыл бұрын
obv he means pass to the opponents playmaker
@tree82 3 жыл бұрын
"by popular demand, some demand" XDDD
@FMBaseNetwork 3 жыл бұрын
Murmurs
@onetimebear5681 3 жыл бұрын
"Everybody just uses wing backs" Me playing 6'4 full backs on support: *"ummmm"*
@ozanavar3460 3 жыл бұрын
My 6'5 no nonsense full back disagrees
@rpekito 3 жыл бұрын
My favourite part of the first tactic is that he didn't select offside trap. There's just 1 defender, ir shouldn't be hard
@jpfr624 3 жыл бұрын
What a missed opportunity lmaooooo
@rpekito 3 жыл бұрын
@@jpfr624 it should help so much and I don't see you loosing anything
@TheDominicProject 3 жыл бұрын
boys u missed an open goal by not playing a match with these tactics. I need to see that first one in engine.
@GenericZac 3 жыл бұрын
This video shows you need to do more videos with Jack. You two are so entertaining to watch.
@RDFTactics 3 жыл бұрын
ONE DAY!!! One day it will be me who gets a guest appearance! haha great vid
@erickbarbosa2935 3 жыл бұрын
That'll be amazing
@limpowallin7441 3 жыл бұрын
Thabo you mister for the Juventus tactic i Win the Serie A with the tactic 👌
@Roscododger 3 жыл бұрын
"You can pull that off, the people want it." " *achem* That's actually the catchphrase of my onlyfans." "Wow."
@Tangeni. 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that WTS was there made it very fun to watch.
@Roxas1711 3 жыл бұрын
Zealand been pumping in the vids. Love it!
@FMBaseNetwork 3 жыл бұрын
Chemistry on-point 🤣
@dennissrensen4329 3 жыл бұрын
You two are really good 😃 This was really good!
@lygogaming117 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this and would like to see more 👍
@acehole7147 3 жыл бұрын
That first tactic is taken from FM Scout from last year! Supposed to dominate Vs weak teams, but can't be used against any team who understands what a football is
@kingcastaway07 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos with WorkTheSpace, my two favorite FM KZfaqrs
@rossanderson1892 3 жыл бұрын
surely foxinthebox is a close third? that man must spend more time researching and studying the game meta-data than sleeping, eating or streaming (smh)
@aw2584 3 жыл бұрын
How about instead of tactics alone you get people's saves, turn off injuries and other random stuff to make it fair, simulate the whole season with the original tactics, then both of you make your own and simulate the whole season too (so 3 simulations in total, obviously no transfers allowed) and then compare your results and team stats? Seems like a fun opportunity to show how much it can influence the outcome of a whole season and also give you the ability to show how your advice works in actual game!
@davorhenry6961 3 жыл бұрын
I love that reece has a channel that shouts out the channels he edits
@mortenbendixen7217 3 жыл бұрын
Libero on attack is so good when playing with 3 CBS and with playing out from the back :)
@swifteh1780 3 жыл бұрын
I use a Libero between my two ball playing CBs using a 3-4-3w
@IvanTheReptile 3 жыл бұрын
Preach brother 🙌
@Nathan-js3zl 3 жыл бұрын
Great video idea this Zealand
@pwnzorder 3 жыл бұрын
My two favorite YT Twich bros... Yall should do a weekly 'we rate your ***'
@JuveVinny 9 ай бұрын
I like the concept of this video. Did you do more of these?
@Zakar795 3 жыл бұрын
OMG you look like Marshall! I cant unsee it arghhh
@Zakar795 3 жыл бұрын
13:03 When that Wonderkind you were scouting for two years is put on the transfer list
@jackspnc 3 жыл бұрын
Why was that impression of Ben so good?!
@joeswain450 3 жыл бұрын
Only just watched this, seems like Zealand requires the restroom with all that bouncing. Or has had many, many caffeine drinks - which in turn will also lead to all the pissing
@matthewbaughan7073 Жыл бұрын
I wish you would do more like this
@wirach1996 3 жыл бұрын
I used a Libero once on FM 19, in one of the best teams I've ever had, but it was definitely a one-off
@ethanderrick8486 3 жыл бұрын
I've decided I want to take Wroxham from the 9th tier of English football to glory. The team starts with not even a full gold star team, and finding signings is so so hard. Trial abuse here I come!
@brendenquillen6093 3 жыл бұрын
Zealand! The guy that plays Marshall is in the newest Gullivers Travels with Jack Black.
@thegaz-man 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see your reactions to Secret Base's Breaking Football Manager formations I still have nightmares
@WizoIstGott 3 жыл бұрын
I dont think its weird for a Tactic in the 8th tier of football to play for set pieces. I allways have that one ticked in lower leagues, all you need is one big lad and one decent set piece taker and you just print goals at that level.
@Mission.Unpossible 3 жыл бұрын
I've used a libero to decent success in the Spanish lower leagues (notably Sergio Ayala in FM19). Tactic was a 5-2-3 with a libero on support, 2 CB's on def, WBsu & CWBat left & right, MEZsu & B2B left & right, with a Winger At, DLFsu & IFsu. Record number of shots on goal in a match was somewhere in the 60ies, with about 1/3rd on target on average. My finishing was so low though that I never got more than 4 goals lol.
@andrewramplin5881 3 жыл бұрын
the guy you raided yesterday was great
@hakim6158 3 жыл бұрын
Wait what's wrong with cautious? It's the bane of my existence.
@filipposmoulkas770 3 жыл бұрын
Okay this pushed me to make a Twitter. I’m missing so many good videos I could be on!
@bigrandomun9267 Жыл бұрын
I play the exact formation as IDavy with Dortmund but with the DM/BWM on the right and the Mezzala/CM on the left and CWB on the right and 2 Inverted wingers with a Shadow Striker. Else, exactly the same.
@kyleeasy1250 3 жыл бұрын
I love jack
@zimzimma5688 3 жыл бұрын
The guy, Jason something, is in pretty much everything Judd Apatow does in fairness.
@Tom-lr1if 3 жыл бұрын
Loooooove work the space
@jackspnc 3 жыл бұрын
"It's like people who have a little dyed streak in their hair" Brilliant haha
@zacflemo1994 Жыл бұрын
the false 9 tactic is insane if you have a really good false 9 striker hybrid aha
@V3MIK 3 жыл бұрын
It's Jason Segel. Forgetting Sarah Marshall, I love You Man!, Bad Teacher
@TheFazer1992 2 жыл бұрын
I used a libero on support and attack I'm fm20 with concord in lower leagues. Was Saul milanovics best position so thought let's run with it for once🤣. Worked ok and could swap to a 433dm wide when needed, libero moved to the DM role.
@msherif428 2 жыл бұрын
Oh libero libero! A normal center-back with cover duty works just the same!
@enzo64 Жыл бұрын
I loved the video, but the only thing is I think you should judge tactics on the context of the team and the players that your subscribers have. Example if someone plays LB attack and RB defence it’s because his RB maybe is not good in attack so he can’t to better. I love your videos.
@kevinstein1568 3 жыл бұрын
EYYY The fuckin Knapp shout. That dudes tactics have been among the 2 or 3 best for EVERY FM I've ever played. I legit remember loading up Knapp tactics back in fm15. Dude's tactics are ALWAYS top 5 in MR.L's tactic testing league. Heck I get the sneaking suspicion that most of the tactics surrounding Knapp's in the rankings integrate at least one or two things from Knapp's tactics- whether that is using the same throw-in procedure or corner setup his tactics really set the standard.
@jordylont1879 3 жыл бұрын
You guys are so funny
@APlayerLikeComputer 3 жыл бұрын
I love jack ❤️
@DMurphyApple 3 жыл бұрын
more!
@zqualified3901 3 жыл бұрын
Hey can you do a video on how to download kits next please
@BetterKnownAsMalice 3 жыл бұрын
The half back on defend tactic: I bet the FB on defend is told to sit narrow - almost as a 3rd CB. This would allow the WB to overlap the IF and for the HB to drop onto a makeshift back 4 to play long balls to the WB and advanced players.
@BetterKnownAsMalice 3 жыл бұрын
I’m also thinking that tactic was made for Man United...
@saxonjedi5878 3 жыл бұрын
Marshall was in one of the newish Muppet movies I think?
@kvltgaming4122 3 жыл бұрын
That 4231 with a half back is a straight copy and paste from Mourinho's Inter.
@TheClobter 3 жыл бұрын
The 4th tactic I feel would be more of a real life tactic then an fm tactic
@TheClobter 3 жыл бұрын
It’s basically going to come down to on defense you will have 5 at the back with the half back and the wing back come back later and on attack the cm will take the role of the fullback in an underlapping role more in the edge of the box with the winger outside of him. The cm would be the slightly further and come wider to get the ball if needed.
@insicknessandindeath 3 жыл бұрын
How have you not seen 'I Love you, man'?
@JJJackson777 2 жыл бұрын
5:42 how did i not see this ahahahahaha
@iopzzza 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Zealand, why do u look shaking all the time on this video (is it just my monitor?) :D , i just noticed it now. Great video, though !
@Mombot_z 3 жыл бұрын
He got it from his dad, they are always bouncing their legs when they are sitting and thinking. Usually it doesn’t come all the way up his body 🤣
@lucaspontes4147 3 жыл бұрын
what's the thing against "libero" role in FM? please i dont understand why
@OleAasheim 3 жыл бұрын
Zealand have never watched Forgetting Sarah Marshall. :(
@murray393 3 жыл бұрын
or Freaks and Geeks
@ZebuNation 3 жыл бұрын
Someone is using a variation of my "Z" formation and it turned out to be the 2nd most effective tactic. lol. Biggest difference is that they replaced the Segundo Volante with a Halfback.
@jamescbrown8149 3 жыл бұрын
We Stan WTS
@keowni 3 жыл бұрын
You look exactly like marshall...
@ethanjwa786 3 жыл бұрын
I cant remember the last time i used the same role for my fullbacks.... am I a genius?
@eXistenZ15 3 жыл бұрын
Hw does the tactic tester works? And can we use it?
@senders779 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, its on fm-base. You just upload your tactic and they simulate many matches with it
@laptopking9471 3 жыл бұрын
New Video idea team of the best free agents Get the best free agent in every position and put them in a team and then sim the season
@jonahmakay8647 3 жыл бұрын
I used a 3-4-1-2 with a libero and win the Copa Libertadores so I think it works
@EriksV99 3 жыл бұрын
Last year used a libero in tactic that got FC Andorra to CL final, so I've got positive experience too, worked really well. Might be the absolutely insane guy I played there though.
@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa 3 жыл бұрын
I really wish SI would nerf Gegenpressing and make the other styles more viable. I mean, 4-2-3-1 Attacking Gegenpressing is just a meme.
@charlie1029able 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone knows Tony Pulis 4-4-2 would fuckin crush all of these
@TDavyAfterDark 3 жыл бұрын
Wtf my tactic is featured
@TheBdougs 3 жыл бұрын
I ship the two of you.
@hugefanofgabicallumb7216 3 жыл бұрын
can anyone tell me how to check my own tactics ratings on fm base pls???
@peterhedes5470 3 жыл бұрын
3-4-1-2 is the best
@inacionelson 3 жыл бұрын
Playing gegenpress with cautious mentality? (Tactic 2)
@Juju25118 3 жыл бұрын
I'VE BEEN THINKING ZEALAND LOOKS LIKE MARSHALL FOREVER
@dolwota2nd 3 жыл бұрын
totally haraaaaaaaamball
@Mohammad_.- 3 жыл бұрын
Rupert is on the "Servant" Jason Segel latest movie is "Our Friend" 🙂
@semajenahs314 3 жыл бұрын
Marshall on Freaks & Geeks was quality
@matsliekardash5467 3 жыл бұрын
I am happy I am not in this video with my 4-1-1-3-1 gegenpress
@31cekcumhuriyeti79 3 жыл бұрын
I like to play with 2-4-4-8 defense wins championship
@speedphlux 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, kinda makes me wanna go out and create a Libero tactic that actually doesn't suck :D #GiveReeceSomeRice
@1886Joel 3 жыл бұрын
I won the premier league with a 5-2-3 with a libero.
@ronniescerri4111 3 жыл бұрын
Hello again
@rossanderson1892 3 жыл бұрын
why is Zealand filming during a mild earthquake?
@ZealandonYT 3 жыл бұрын
loooool
@bart0134 3 жыл бұрын
My ears always kinda hurt because your voice is so deep
@joaomartins9794 3 жыл бұрын
Does someone know what Zealand video is that he does that head dance xDD
@Victor-gz8ml 3 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kLF-nNWAvb68qZc.html
@joaomartins9794 3 жыл бұрын
@@Victor-gz8ml Thank you!
@SamJ031 3 жыл бұрын
The disrespect against the libero in this video is quite uppsetting.
@DavePlaysGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Zealand's bouncing around is a bit disconcerting. Is he full of nervous energy? Does he need a pee? We may never know!
@ZealandonYT 3 жыл бұрын
He is always bouncing his leg while he's thinking is the answer
@DavePlaysGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZealandonYT And now we know!
@NBMFTW1 3 жыл бұрын
You’ve never seen Jason Segel in anything else...What?
@bladesman1963 3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly! I love you man! Not Literally, obviously!
@lukaluka4868 3 жыл бұрын
Can someone help me I am being bullied by weaker teams in terms of possesion like 30% to their 70% and dont know how to fix it
@shirhanzafranbinshibly-stu8065 3 жыл бұрын
U have to start pressing the opposition, higher pressing intensity and tempo and make sure u have a higher line of engagement
@lukaluka4868 3 жыл бұрын
@@shirhanzafranbinshibly-stu8065 where to set higher pressing intensity
@shirhanzafranbinshibly-stu8065 3 жыл бұрын
@@lukaluka4868 out of possession tab
@michaelcovington9047 3 жыл бұрын
So glad my 4-2-4 tiki taka is not in this..
@swifteh1780 3 жыл бұрын
What's the beef with Dr Bengi? I think he's alright.
@Mombot_z 3 жыл бұрын
They both are very good friend with Doctor Benjy, and they were just teasing him. The same thing that Doctor Benjy does to them constantly. 😀
@EdyMar77 2 жыл бұрын
its not liBEro , its LIbero , the accent in the i . pronounce it like an italian :)
@timothyfranklin4808 3 жыл бұрын
1st tactic..... Distribute to centre backs..... There's no centre backs 😂
@Stein.Bagger 3 жыл бұрын
6:05 Kind of condescending when he's literally in your video...
@GamelinPK 3 жыл бұрын
2-7-2
@Creddiam 3 жыл бұрын
Goalkeepers are for pussies
@ShaunDell. 3 жыл бұрын
Zealand I love you and I mean no disrespect but you shaking your leg or just the chair through out this whole video makes my physically ill.
@j-simmo1881 2 жыл бұрын
I hate ‘tighter marking’ my teams perform better without it
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