FNaF 2's Dumbest "Mystery"

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Sire Squawks

Sire Squawks

7 ай бұрын

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@FTZPLTC
@FTZPLTC 7 ай бұрын
It's weird how many elaborate FNAF theories amount to "what would it take for this *not* to just be a continuity error?"
@FTZPLTC
@FTZPLTC 7 ай бұрын
@@bunny-dl2fi - I mean... I wouldn't go that far. But I do think he's been a bit sloppy sometimes, and that some people in the fandom would rather have a consistent timeline than a compelling story.
@Sivanot
@Sivanot 7 ай бұрын
@@bunny-dl2fi Not narcissism. If it was, then he would likely be actively defending things as if they weren't errors, instead of just rolling with whatever little mistakes he made before.
@SuperSonicbros4
@SuperSonicbros4 6 ай бұрын
​@@bunny-dl2fi well you got all of that wrong
@caldercockatoo2234
@caldercockatoo2234 4 ай бұрын
@@FTZPLTC It's not that hard to do both.
@FTZPLTC
@FTZPLTC 4 ай бұрын
@@caldercockatoo2234 - It shouldn't be, but we should recognise that FNAF's story wasn't written the way most stories are. Best way I can describe it is like those ongoing fanfics that are published a chapter at a time online. They don't usually have a grand over-arching plan, but they also don't really have the option to write a chapter, look back on it, and realise that it's bad and probably shouldn't be in there. Most writers will tell you that they throw out a huge percentage of what they write, and I feel like some of the story of FNAF is stuff that definitely would've been thrown out.
@SplashCity46
@SplashCity46 7 ай бұрын
The animatronics do seem to cycle their aggression every week (established in FNaF1), but I overall agree that Jeremy needs to be working in summer. I bet it was just a mistake of the script not matching the check when the game was written and it has been Scott-conned to being the delay in payment.
@paraphenaliac4657
@paraphenaliac4657 7 ай бұрын
I feel like the cycle is moreso their growing frustration at not catching the guard and not AI
@SplashCity46
@SplashCity46 7 ай бұрын
@@paraphenaliac4657 I disagree. Custom nights in FNaF 1 and 2 specifically link aggressiveness to AI level.
@Farz05
@Farz05 7 ай бұрын
Watch this be the one rettcon 💀
@dredgengam4610
@dredgengam4610 7 ай бұрын
​@@SplashCity46their aggressiveness through the regular 6 nights shouldn't be linked with their AI per se. Freddy and friends become more active as the week progresses sure, but none of them are meant to kill by default until FNAF 3 & 4. These are regular entertainment robots unlike the undead serial killer or the nightmare experiment robots. But since they're possessed and fueled by the children's agony, it'd make sense that the lore reason would be that they're anxious to eliminate what they see as a threat and get more agitated the longer it's left unchecked. Charlie says the others are "like animals". They become increasingly desperate when they feel threatened. That is Until night 7 where they go haywire because they've been tampered with as the pink slips suggest.
@zacvh
@zacvh 2 ай бұрын
I think it was a mistake but that the true answer is fnaf 2 takes place in November because in the Mr hippo rant he starts off by saying his story was either in the summer or fall but he ultimately decided it was fall. And that rant was about how Scott felt making fnaf 2 he said he announced that he was making a story but really he was just putting extra background details into his game and it really didn’t qualify as a story and calling it a story actually made it seem more important than it really was which is the lesson he took from that game when he was making fnaf 3 and in 3 he tried to wrap up the story with confronting the killer and also showing happiest day which was the 5 kids from the mci at that point. Which was then changed to be about crying child in fnaf 4 because he had to continue the story again since the gameplay wasn’t great in fnaf 3 and then he had to change the context of 4 because it was too confusing so he made sister location 😭
@sirdrake1857
@sirdrake1857 7 ай бұрын
It would be very funny if this whole time, the one retcon that went seamless was this chicanery and Scott considered it seamless because it really doesn't matter at the end of the day and everybody kind of ignored it past 2's hay day
@Reginald_Ritmo
@Reginald_Ritmo 7 ай бұрын
The term "Summer Job" is also a slang term for a low pay, unskilled job. It was a popular term in the 1980s. Phone Guy was probably just being sarcastic. FNAF 2 takes place in November.
@siresquawks
@siresquawks 7 ай бұрын
Where are people getting this definition from? Like people keep saying it and I can't find any proof of "Summer Job" being slang for any low quality job.
@octodaddy877
@octodaddy877 7 ай бұрын
​@@siresquawks It's more of an implied meaning. Officially, it's a job that a student gets over the summer break, either for work experience or to generate an income while they don't have to worry about school. A temporary, seasonal position for a student isn't going to be very high-skill or high-paying, so it's pretty much an easily replaceable low-skill job by nature. Working at a fast food place, retail store, bowling alley, arcade, whatever.
@not_irlon18
@not_irlon18 5 ай бұрын
There's the term "McJob" that is that meaning on wikipedia.
@meyec
@meyec 7 ай бұрын
The way I’ve always thought about it, is that Phone Guy’s way of saying “new summer job” just reeks of corporate speak. Like he’s reading off a script that he was handed, especially when you compare it to how he usually talks.
@siresquawks
@siresquawks 7 ай бұрын
I mean not really, it’s a subjective point. And what’s the point of the corporate speak?
@shurmarr
@shurmarr 7 ай бұрын
@@siresquawksBecause phone guy in fnaf 2 has a higher corporate role in the business than compared to fnaf 1. Phone guy was maybe a manager of some sorts from the way he speaks.
@astrid9920
@astrid9920 7 ай бұрын
I was thinking about this the other day, and I figured the date on the paycheck was an easter egg meant to line up with the release date. The game released on November 11th, and the paychecks are dated the 12th and 13th. There would be players who first saw the paychecks on those dates. I didnt pick up that they were edits of the first games paychecks, so the dates lining up is really weird and really neat. If you absolutely need a lore explanation of the discrepancy, I came up with this bit of wild speculation. Phone guy's introduction calling it a summer job was a script, because the place *was* meant to open in the summer. Phone guy says that initially, they were going to use the withereds for this location, even beginning to retrofit them. Due to... Reasons*... the company decides to pivot, ordering brand new animatronics. The process of designing and building the toys and getting all new posters and marketing and everything for them pushes back the opening day all the way to November. *We could take phone guy at his word and say that the withereds were just. Really gross. Alternatively, this would be the point where fazbear finds the MCI bodies, if they hadn't already been found. I got no idea what they did with them at that point though...
@InfalliblePizza
@InfalliblePizza 7 ай бұрын
I agree, the script makes the most sense, as he’s speaking on behalf of fazbear entertainment during that part.
@Hex.A.Decimal
@Hex.A.Decimal 7 ай бұрын
Yes, they obviously found the bodies during retrofitting. Look at how the Withereds are taken apart. Bonnie has had his face removed for the easiest access to his core, Freddy and Chica had their whole head removed and put back poorly, thus the stretched material. Foxy looks like he was gutted. They have been "scooped out". Idk about Golden Freddy, I guess it would be easiest to scoop a springlock though in theory... Probably why the scooper was even invented.
@Kittyam12345
@Kittyam12345 7 ай бұрын
I was thinking that too it was going to open in the summer for you know more kids no school and it makes sense And the kids might have been killed on night 4 or 5 maybe 6 after that got done retrofitting because the investigation started on does nights if they did see the body's the building would have been closed immediately no matter what time you think willam killed the kids this is the best why i can see it
@generalbutterscotch4887
@generalbutterscotch4887 7 ай бұрын
Honestly, as far as in-universe explanations go, I've always just assumed that "Summer Job" was just meant to be a local slang term for any kind of job that you don't plan on keeping long term. Which given the restaurant we're talking about, I'd say is a pretty fair assumption for management to make.
@isaakchatelet7260
@isaakchatelet7260 7 ай бұрын
Sire Squawks be like: Who! What a dumb and silly debate! (proceeds with making a 10 minute video jabbing about it)
@Sedecious
@Sedecious 7 ай бұрын
alternate theory: Fnaf takes place in a universe where the Fall months are all considered Summer months
@ashtraydelicacy5773
@ashtraydelicacy5773 7 ай бұрын
Another easy explaination is that the business DID close in the early summer, but the bankruptcy courts would drag out the process by months. Jeremy would be a creditor for the amount of his wages worked in the summer, so Fazbear would need ro pay him out of liquidated asset from the Pizzeria. The only thing it doesn't explain is why there's the closing newspaper on the same day that Jeremy receives his check, since it would've shut down months prior still to the check disbursement.
@CrownedVanguard
@CrownedVanguard 7 ай бұрын
Based on Phone Guys voice seeming somewhat lifeless at the beginning of FNaF 2 and the fact you can hear something like flipping a note it sounds like he is indeed reading off a script
@WatchThisSpace415
@WatchThisSpace415 7 ай бұрын
That's interesting, I interpreted it as the reverse (the game's events taking place in November and Scott forgetting about he Summer thing) as the night 1 phonecall is the only mention of Summer in the game and the mention of Saturday on night 6 being tomorrow lines up with the paycheck date if they're referring to the date he was working there and not the date the paycheck was issued. Unless Phone Guy meant Jeremy was going to work the dayshift right after surviving night 6. Well if that's the case, no wonder the bite of 87 happened.
@creeperboom9813
@creeperboom9813 7 ай бұрын
5:25 That was way funnier than it should of been
@PikachuGamerSMT
@PikachuGamerSMT 7 ай бұрын
The FNaF 2 phone calls are like he’s actually calling you whilst FNaF 1 and 3 (we are told this in 3 by Phone Dude) sound like recordings being played through a call
@siresquawks
@siresquawks 7 ай бұрын
Yeah I talk about that
@NorthernWind0
@NorthernWind0 7 ай бұрын
I'm more inclined to believe that the paychecks are more accurate and the night 1 audio was simply pre-recorded introduction to the job that was left over from the planning stage, that the restaurant opened late, etc. These dates don't really mean anything, given that they don't actually affect what the timeline shows, but it would be nice to know for sure. The reason I'm inclined to believe the paychecks is that they are the only piece of this puzzle that, ironically, is *technically* confirmed to be 'real time'. If the animatronic aggression cycles weekly, as mentioned by another commentor, then it wouldn't matter when these tapes took place as long as they lined up with the weekly cycle, and abandoned buildings still owned by a corporate entity DO still need nightguards, which would explain why you are there and why the building looks so pristine, no one's been in here since it was last cleaned up in ages. I'm also very inclined to believe that Fritz and Jeremy are the same person, (likely Mike) who stayed under an alias (potentially letting whatever he did to disguise himself (I'm inclined toward Sister Location predating FNAF2) wear off over an entire day of work to appear to be someone else) to deal with the animatronics he tampered with during the day, potentially to see what happened, as a result of trying to make things harder on his father. There's a lot here, but it's all low impact, both in potential and in reality.
@noravanguard3993
@noravanguard3993 7 ай бұрын
I think Gibi's explanation makes the most sence. That it's just an error and that scott made fun of it latter on in one of the Mr Hippo death screens. The TLDR is that the phone call have to be happening in real while Jeremy is working and that the bit happened she he moved to the day shift which would been a Friday the 13th in November of 1987
@siresquawks
@siresquawks 7 ай бұрын
I think it’s an error but they paycheck date is wrong since it’s reused from the first game, implying it was copy pasted with 1987 added. As I say in the video.
@noravanguard3993
@noravanguard3993 7 ай бұрын
@@siresquawks the only thing is Nov 13 1992 is also a Friday the 13th. And that would line up with the amount your paid in FNaF 1 Mattpatt was the first to say 1993 but that was just because of the real life chucky cheese murders happened that years Also 1992 is 5 years from 1987 so it would make sense if you making a game with lose lore (FNaF 1) and you make up an event that occurred in the past It would make sense that you make the current story take place in a anniversary year of the event
@Hex.A.Decimal
@Hex.A.Decimal 7 ай бұрын
​@@noravanguard3993To add to your summary of events, if the MCI happened in '85 like the books seem to hammer in, '92 would be 7 years later. 7 years is the time it takes for a missing person to be declared legally dead. So it would be poetic that the place gets shut down by the end of '92. Scott messes up his lore from time to time, but he is very detail oriented and excels at numbers and ciphers. He is an old school coder... Ironically it seems it's the big picture thinking that gets him.
@RobinRhombus2
@RobinRhombus2 7 ай бұрын
Also since phone guy is responding to Jeremy's shift in real time, he can't be listening to pre-recorded audio.
@Lightman0359
@Lightman0359 7 ай бұрын
The late paycheck thing could be the solution. Many states are net 90, meaning for certain things [especially contractor work] they can wait up to 90 days to pay you. This means that as long as the last pay period ended no earlier than Aug 15 he could be issued a check as late as Nov 13. I had to deal with that with a couple production companies I worked for in Chicago. Those companies [like Fazbear Inc] had a large turnover in help, most hands quitting after the first time it took 3 months to get paid.
@pinkanimositygaming
@pinkanimositygaming 7 ай бұрын
As an actual IRL security guard, getting paychecks way later than expected is actual not unusual. I had to wait a month to get over time pay because my boss didn’t feel like entering info in that week.
@smt64productions40
@smt64productions40 7 ай бұрын
That gotta suck
@thelocalwerewolf
@thelocalwerewolf 4 ай бұрын
Honestly, the idea of Fazbear Ent. screwing up the date of payroll stubs seems pretty in line with all the other incompetent stuff like dead kids and a parody vr game, despite the fact it was a continuity error from scott.
@gdeveloper3309
@gdeveloper3309 7 ай бұрын
fnaf 2 being in the summer and the month of November being a mistake makes so much sense actually thinking about it: -explains the different date in the live phone calls and the paycheck -explains how its open only a few short weeks -purple guy would probably do his murder incidents both in the summer as part of his mo maybe -the month and day matches perfectly with the fnaf 2 paychecks really good explanation although I wonder why something similar would occur on the steam description of fnaf 1 mentioning a summer job and the fnaf 1 paycheck still saying November
@Toaster003
@Toaster003 7 ай бұрын
what if the fnaf 1 paycheck date is also wrong??????? :O
@Miguel-xl8ui
@Miguel-xl8ui 7 ай бұрын
it has to be in november so that fnaf2 happens on a friday 13th. also this kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qrpzaql23c-saH0.htmlsi=qjx7vnrGdhMFAURI&t=24811
@Schokie732
@Schokie732 6 ай бұрын
People seem to forget that FNaF 1 also made this error in its description on Steam: «Welcome to your new summer job at Freddy Fazbear's Pizza, where kids and parents alike come for entertainment and food!» So I really think that the summer job is just an error or a dumb joke from Scott (also some people claim that the blurred parts of the newspapers at the beginning of FNaF 1-3 also talk about a summer job but I haven't found an official source for this claim)
@jaront6771
@jaront6771 7 ай бұрын
In my opinion summer job in this context means part time job. Also, I think that William Afton as Dave Miller (who was the first nightguard before Jeremy) murdered the Save Them Victims before the FNAF 2 gameplay happens (which then result in the Toys possession). Phone Guy waited over a week to tell Jeremy Fitzgerald what happened. While that happened during Night 5 William Afton left the day guard positon worrying about getting caught. Then, on Night 7 Michael Afton as Fritz Smith tampered with the animatronics either under Williams order or that Michael wanted to see for himself what happened in the past 2 years. I type to long I know.
@romeokukita277
@romeokukita277 7 ай бұрын
I like to think Fritz isn't Michael but just a crazy motherfucker who made all the animatronics super aggresive for the funny.
@kalkuttadrop6371
@kalkuttadrop6371 28 күн бұрын
I should note both games have your overtime pay come on Friday the 13th. And the FNAF 2 location apparently opened on Halloween since the first night shift would have been 12-6AM November 1st by Willy.
@captaindc3889
@captaindc3889 7 ай бұрын
Jeremy worked in the summer, got bitten in the frontal lobe and didn’t get his paycheck until months later in the hospital
@Podeg
@Podeg 7 ай бұрын
In the wise words of mr.Hippo, "We were havin’ a nice picnic one day. I believe it was summer or perhaps it was…was it the fall? Yes, yes. It was the fall because the leaves had turned already. "
@mylam658
@mylam658 7 ай бұрын
I just like to think Phone Guy forgot what month it was that day Silly guy
@punusername3445
@punusername3445 7 ай бұрын
whenever i need to exercise i put on a recent theory about old fnaf lore, the stretches in those count for a entire warm-up!
@sharklostworld
@sharklostworld 7 ай бұрын
i remember for a while people were theorising that it meant FNAF took place in the southern hemisphere, where it would pretty much be summer in November. as an Australian i always thought that was a really funny theory, the idea that this fucking robot pizza chain was operating somewhere in the middle of Sydney or some shit
@eike4052
@eike4052 7 ай бұрын
imagining scott right now thinking "open from summer to november.... yeah thats a few short weeks" and assuming everyone would get it
@shyguymike
@shyguymike 7 ай бұрын
Something people often forget is that FNaF1’s Steam description also calls that a summer job. Summer Job can simply mean a minimum wage work. I really think that's just it and people overthink it.
@siresquawks
@siresquawks 7 ай бұрын
Summer job more so has the connotation the job is a seasonal. As someone who’s worked a seasonal before it literally means you work for the 1 season. In this case summer. Also where did you get this definition?
@shyguymike
@shyguymike 7 ай бұрын
@@siresquawks Webster Dictionary says this is an alternative, uncommon slang definition. One that Scott and by proxy Phone Guy seems to use often. It was a lot more popular in the 80’s than now, so that checks out. The idea is basically just that this is a typically low paying position which can be suitable for a student to pick up during the summer months. A Summer Job-esque job. I don't really agree with the idea that it could be a mistake, mainly because 13 November 1987 was a friday. That seems deliberate. Scott seems to pick Friday 13ths a lot in fact.
@Hex.A.Decimal
@Hex.A.Decimal 7 ай бұрын
​@@siresquawksSummer job is slang for a part time, minimum wage, throwaway job you don't expect to work more than 'a season' at due to it being subpar. At least I have heard it used this way here in Oklahoma, and Scott is from Texas. Maybe it's a southern thing?
@siresquawks
@siresquawks 7 ай бұрын
@@shyguymike If it wasn't the same date as FNaF 1 I'd agree, but it looks more like to me that it's just reused from that game like most of the check is. Also this is the only time a FNaF game is ever given a date that'd be confirmed Friday the 13th. (Maybe FNaF 1 if it's in 1992?) Scott does not do that "a lot".
@siresquawks
@siresquawks 7 ай бұрын
@@shyguymike The problem is we're getting into Abby = Elizabeth naming conventions now. Is it for it to mean summer job? Yeah. But does that mean that HAS to be what Phone guy meant here? I don't think so. Slang's also trickey because time end place plays a large part in its usage. Also I just checked Merriam-Webster and all it says is a job for summer. I can't find this alternate meaning anywhere.
@OnlyMagikarp
@OnlyMagikarp Ай бұрын
When the Phone Guy image showed up for the first time in this video the funtime foxy png with low transparency behind it spooked me for a second.
@smallkidneyjoe4046
@smallkidneyjoe4046 6 ай бұрын
This is a lot of ink spilled for something that was definitely just a joke Phone Guy was making to ease you into your first day on the job, and you know what? I respect it. Keep doin what you're doin bestie.
@bubblegumkk8158
@bubblegumkk8158 7 ай бұрын
The true explanation is that the games take place in the southern hemisphere
@Marcibee05
@Marcibee05 7 ай бұрын
Phone guy had a script made in the summer and just reused it when he was making the calls in November. Mystery solved.
@dwitefry4157
@dwitefry4157 7 ай бұрын
I'm saying this simply because Squawks didn't bring it up, it's not for you specifically Squawks because I assume you did think of it but: the reason the FNAF 2 phone guy tapes could be old? To carry over the plot twist from FNAF1. In FNAF1 the tapes are old, that was a big twist - so in the second game the tapes are also old, as they're old in the FNAF3 too, it could simpy be intended a running theme with tapes. The problem is that the employees are numbered - the guy who gets moved to day shift (Afton), then the two player characters. If Phone Guy's tapes are old, who was he talking to?
@Coolcleverstone
@Coolcleverstone 7 ай бұрын
Well, FNAF 2 did come out earlier than expected. It did need a bit more time to bake.
@jobbes3220
@jobbes3220 7 ай бұрын
This is something that GiBi talked about in his 9 hour timeline video. He talked about how the date was probably chosen because Scott wanted the bite of 87 to take place on friday the 13th. He also talked about how he believed fnaf 1 takes place in 1992 but he didn't mention that nov 13th of 1992 was also friday the 13th. He didn't even really take the summer line very seriously and just called it a mistake, which I actually agree with.
@siresquawks
@siresquawks 7 ай бұрын
I doubt this heavily. This only works if A: Jeremy gets bit on night 6 because if he worked his dayshift it'd be the 14th at the soonest. Not to mention these are the same dates as FNaF 1, which implies the paychecks are more likely a mistake from reusing the paychecks between games as I mention in the video. I value the call more than the check because we KNOW the call was made for this game, it's something Scott had to voice/write himself new for this game. Since the paycheck is largely reused, it's more likely to be a mistake/left over asset from the first game.
@higueraft571
@higueraft571 7 ай бұрын
@@siresquawks One detail in the video that might be worth considering in general in terms of the Summer Job's use... FNAF 2 isnt the first time "Summer Job" was used as a descriptor, nor is it the first time we've had a conflict involving it. FNAF 1's steam description, to quote: "Welcome to *your new summer job* at Freddy Fazbear's Pizza, where kids and parents alike come for entertainment and food as far as the eye can see! The main attraction is Freddy Fazbear, of course; and his two friends. They are animatronic robots, programmed to please the crowds! The robots' behavior has become somewhat unpredictable at night however, and it was much cheaper to hire you as a security guard than to find a repairman." Willing to bet this may just be an Error of some sort, especially considering nobody had drawn attention to the Description of all things for 1, and how short of a timespan Scott cranked out the sequel :V (God knows there's some mess around FNAF 2...)
@rannynihilius8481
@rannynihilius8481 7 ай бұрын
It's very likely just a mistake from Scott if Phone Guy's calls are intended for Jeremy. Mr. Hippo seemingly also jokes about it being fall and not summer in one of his UCN dialogues as a hint at the "Summer job" just being an error. William was probably the night guard before the player with the whole DCI happening the week before Jeremy takes over the shift with Phone Guy talking about running investigations and someone recently using "a yellow one". Then the whole Bite of 87 happens during Jeremy's dayshift for the last plannedparty of the location, likely killing him due to the ramped up aggression of the animatronics because of the killer's latest killing spree and at last Michael takes over under the alias of Fritz Smith following his father's tracks. That's atleast my version of the events.
@Wizardjones69
@Wizardjones69 7 ай бұрын
i still thinking the idea of night 7 taking place before the day party but after night 6
@L1z43vr
@L1z43vr 7 ай бұрын
0:26 I actually heard a pretty compelling argument from a Brazillian KZfaqr about the whole "summer job" line from Phone Guy: It's not actually summer, it's a short-period work enviroment which is called a "summer job". A Night Guard at Freddy's works for 6 hours per week and gets paid his minimum wage only at the end of 5 days of work, so it's quite possible that Phone Guy is talking about the short period work Jeremy has to do, rather than putting the timeline of the events of the game in summer of 1987.
@siresquawks
@siresquawks 7 ай бұрын
This is not a term in the US. I can't find any definition other than the comments of this very video claiming "Summer Job" means a part time job at any point in the year. It is a part time job, specifically one that happens in summer, according to merriam webster.
@Hex.A.Decimal
@Hex.A.Decimal 7 ай бұрын
Golden Freddy appears the night Phone Guy says "There was a spare suit- a yellow one- in the back. Someone... Used it. Now none of them are acting right." Also all the dead bodies in the DCI are in blind spots. Technically they could be there during your shift... But it was probably the work week before you worked there. I say work week because imo it makes sense the place would get shut down for a while to... Clean up, change the floors, and file missing persons reports. (Also, the SAVE THEM and SAVE HIM minigames were likely last second additions. SAVE THEM looks like it had a crapton of content cut from it... It's a mess. FNaF 2 was certainly rushed and had a lot cut from it because Scott got excited and overzealous. But the minigames take the cake and are a full of dead ends and empty placeholders. I don't know if story was lost in translation due to the rush, or if Scott just didn't have the details set when he made the minigames.) I am of the mind that the tapes are prerecorded, the DCI happened *at least* the summer before, the birthday party was a different one, and Jeremy got bit the week they reopened due to how haunting repeats itself. I have more but it's borderline conspiracy theory and doesn't really matter in the end, anyway... I see both sides enough that I wouldn't call either wrong. The evidence is split down the middle. But, again, HAUNTING REPEATS ITSELF. So Golden Freddy, the bite... Could be replays of a prior incident that was never put to rest.
@ethbeatthem4836
@ethbeatthem4836 7 ай бұрын
Likely Night 1 phone call is pre recorded for new hires. Easy.
@siresquawks
@siresquawks 7 ай бұрын
It isn’t. Watch the video.
@PsychicBeetle
@PsychicBeetle 7 ай бұрын
@@siresquawksI did, you rambling about how it isn’t does prove anything
@whitefang1657
@whitefang1657 7 ай бұрын
Scott probably just recorded the phone calls before he decided when the game takes place
@ashleygris
@ashleygris 7 ай бұрын
I always thought phone guy was being a smart ass when he said that
@willbrummer424
@willbrummer424 7 ай бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong but there is a Mr hippo speech talking about seasons and how little details can be messed up or forgotten? I think it means Scott just forgot when it took place.
@Wizardjones69
@Wizardjones69 6 ай бұрын
Or because "welcome to your new summer job" is a cool line that scott used for phone guy comedical personality
@Starving_indev
@Starving_indev 7 ай бұрын
I think "summer job" should be interpreted less literally Just like a saying or smth, just a phrase, nothing more
@CreatorofSecks
@CreatorofSecks 7 ай бұрын
scott misspoke or mistyped ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@Lavender_Fox
@Lavender_Fox 7 ай бұрын
I worked at dollar tree for a while and seem to be receiving my final checks around 3 months apart, so it checks out.
@bradyexe3238
@bradyexe3238 7 ай бұрын
Bro I'm pretty sure Scott just said it was a mistake
@siresquawks
@siresquawks 7 ай бұрын
When.
@bradyexe3238
@bradyexe3238 7 ай бұрын
@@siresquawksI thought he said it in the interview wirh Dawko, but I just went through the fnaf 2 portion and didn't see it so I could be completely stupid. I don't know why I remember hearing this
@Lefte_
@Lefte_ 7 ай бұрын
Happy post day of thank
@arlo9754
@arlo9754 7 ай бұрын
gobble gobble. that's all i can say to describe the genius of this video's ending.
@monstrdog7031
@monstrdog7031 7 ай бұрын
Prob just an oversight by Scott, but who knows, maybe jere didn't get his paycheck until they knew he didn't die from frontal lobe removal or something :V
@jsc2308
@jsc2308 7 ай бұрын
Btw the number on the top right of checks usually don’t mean anything aside from what check it is usually goes (001-200)
@DrMedicsGameSurgery
@DrMedicsGameSurgery 7 ай бұрын
Mr Hippo explains this as a mistake in UCN, it is fall not summer
@borisbradara5950
@borisbradara5950 6 ай бұрын
What if NightGuard 3 does play when the location is closed, they were talking about a great Birthday party and the restaurant was still decorated for a birthday
@thesmilingman7576
@thesmilingman7576 7 ай бұрын
7:25 I think William was the suspect since the newspaper mentions someone being convicted in FNaF 1 and I think it may be referring to the day guards arrest
@CrownedVanguard
@CrownedVanguard 7 ай бұрын
I think it’s also possible that Jeremy was supposed to work that day, but the only reason he’s there is because he simply “didn’t get the memo” and they just wrote it off as overtime.
@thaelrynvecna2953
@thaelrynvecna2953 7 ай бұрын
I think honestly the first night "call" was a generic "welcome" thing. The rest are live.
@Shadow01974
@Shadow01974 7 ай бұрын
I have a flawless theory with airtight logic. William is the victim of the Bite of 87. He then used Remnant to regenerate his frontal lobe, which is why Scraptraps peanut dome looks so dumb.
@smt64productions40
@smt64productions40 7 ай бұрын
Wait, how do explain Springtrap’s design?
@zacvh
@zacvh 2 ай бұрын
How does he get remnant in 1987 😭 I thought he melts the original endo skeletons after fnaf 1 and that’s how he gets it in sister location and also it explains why in fnaf 3 they didn’t find any real animatronics but had all the empty casings cuz William left them behind at the pizzeria but took the endos
@zacvh
@zacvh 2 ай бұрын
Maybe it explains dci but I don’t think the dci itself is canon because of one of the Mr hippo rants he says that it’s not that important basically
@sneeb271
@sneeb271 7 ай бұрын
What if in FNAF utah is in the southern hemisphere so november is shortly before summer.
@siresquawks
@siresquawks 7 ай бұрын
Only if Utah magically moved to South America, Africa or Australia
@Hex.A.Decimal
@Hex.A.Decimal 7 ай бұрын
November is summer literally nowhere on Earth, so maybe it is space Utah?
@dtimetyp7062
@dtimetyp7062 7 ай бұрын
Important detail to add here: The fnaf 1 steam description says "Welcome to your new summer job at Freddy Fazbear's Pizza". So Scott used the term summer job twice for something that happens in november. I read through the comments and saw that you are dismissive of the idea that summer job can be used as a synonym for part-time-job or something along those lines, but it might be the case. I mean ... would Scott really put the game in summer twice, but then make a wrong paycheck? It is more likely (to me at least) that Scott just doesn't mean summer when he says summerjob.
@doctorcropse2795
@doctorcropse2795 7 ай бұрын
At least here in Louisiana they call part time jobs summer jobs occasionally
@MustacheMann22
@MustacheMann22 7 ай бұрын
I just always thought it was an old saying from back in the day, like oh boy my new summer job being shit. If the company does close though, it does take a while to pay out people sometimes.
@hioman
@hioman 7 ай бұрын
I will say, there are birthday decorations throught the whole week, which implies that either they just decided to keep them up the whole time, or the place was closed down right after someone's birthday party, and hiring someone to stay and watch the place after closing is something that William does in the movie (if the trailers aren't lying) so it's not out of the realm of possibility that William would do something like that But yeah, your theory is probably more correct
@CaptainRickey
@CaptainRickey 4 ай бұрын
Hey, doesn't phone guy literally say at the end of the tape that "when the place eventually opens again I'll probably take the night shift myself" implying that when we play night 7: - We play as phone guy, who gets fired (on their first day as a night guard, not necessarily as being employed by the company) - the place is open again?
@valorthe1
@valorthe1 7 ай бұрын
I honestly do think we were right years ago, that Jeremy is working months after the placed closed and is listening to old tapes. Because another point of evidence is the birthday banners around the pizzeria, which Phone Guy specifically made reference to by saying it'll be the last event before the place closes down. And yet, those birthday banners are there all week. There's also the fact of that the animatronics are very clearly possessed from Night 1, but by the other common theory none of the Toys should be possessed and trying to kill you until Night 5/6
@seanimo8579
@seanimo8579 7 ай бұрын
There was a really good theory on Reddit with a rational explanation. Can’t find it atm but since Jeremy was the victim of the bite, his paycheck would be delayed 90 days. There are 3 months between summer and fall, and his paycheck was meant to be given on a Friday.
@siresquawks
@siresquawks 7 ай бұрын
I mention that in the video
@Apoplexya
@Apoplexya 7 ай бұрын
1:08 Do we KNOW that William is the first guard though, or have we just made inferences and assumed that to be the case? There's the information that Phone guy discloses yes, but can we draw more possible conclusions from it? On night 3 Phone Guy tells Jeremy that there are some rumours, but no biggie, Day Guard is on watch from opening 'til close. By night 4 there are investigations being opened and the animatronics are on edge and by night 5, the place is on lockdown, and the position of Day Guard has become... available. Night 6 and Jeremy isn't supposed to be there but no worries, he'll stay on for day shift following the end of the night for the last booked party. There's a different narrative to take from this if we ask ourselves, what if William was Jeremy? Isn't it weird that both player characters in FNAF 2 have names taken from MCI victims? The animatronics are active in the first nights because you're William, your face is on their recognition systems. The hardness of the game ramps up because eventually every one of the animatronics is trying to stop you, and on night 7 Michael looks just like his dad and they just assume he's back for more. Unbeknownst to him, Phone Guy slips up when he tells "Jeremy" that the Day Guard is on the case. The poor Day Guard may have even tried to open up an investigation into suspected on site malfeasance, not that it mattered; "Jeremy" has poisoned the well, the animatronics think Security Guards are the problem and the bite of 87 solves William's issue for him. Then Phone guy slips up again and William is informed of the lockdown, which is precisely why he shows up on night 6 without being scheduled for it; by doing so he's bypassed the lockdown. William wants to be there for that birthday party, to enact the DCI and have his own "happiest day". This could also explain how William isn't bad at his job within his own hell of UCN - he's had experience already. Just wanna put this out there. It might not be all that concrete, but neither is the narrative we've all mostly just assumed, and anyways it is just a theory, haha.
@n_art_cissist
@n_art_cissist 6 ай бұрын
Maybe he’s Australian and got confused
@gunxswordification
@gunxswordification 7 ай бұрын
have you never works retail? walmart's training videos talk about it being 2006 they do one recording and use it for years
@siresquawks
@siresquawks 7 ай бұрын
I have. Yet phone guy’s dialogue is clearly reactive to events happening in real time.
@noodrasan
@noodrasan 7 ай бұрын
guys the sister location is in brazil summer is in november to march
@gameover9390
@gameover9390 7 ай бұрын
4:30 What does Mike or The unnamed guard from FNAF 3 get out of listening to old tapes? Nothing, it for the player as it serves as a tutorial and lore.
@CleaveTheDragon
@CleaveTheDragon 7 ай бұрын
still watching but my thought was, if Jeremy's the victim of the bite of 87, his payment was probably delayed because the company was still waiting to see whether or not he survived before paying him.
@siresquawks
@siresquawks 7 ай бұрын
I mention that
@ThomasAndSkye
@ThomasAndSkye 7 ай бұрын
it's a valid question. people need to pay more attention to this stuff
@thesmilingman7576
@thesmilingman7576 7 ай бұрын
0:17 the first one is ore recorded but I think the rest our live (or at least the ones about the investigations and definitely night 6)
@mask-mimic
@mask-mimic 7 ай бұрын
The script theory is my headcanon for what was probably a mistake at the time. I like to believe PG just couldn’t be assed to change the script.
@user-ui6ld1ug2y
@user-ui6ld1ug2y 7 ай бұрын
Yo can you cover the theory that the fnaf 4 minigame kids are the MCI? Theres a video by JoeDoughBoi about the "original" fnaf story from fnaf 1-4 that i thought was interesting but I havent seen anyone else talk about it
@siresquawks
@siresquawks 7 ай бұрын
I don't think so honestly. It works kinda, but it means the whole "5 kids lured to a back room" thing would be really screwy.
@user-ui6ld1ug2y
@user-ui6ld1ug2y 7 ай бұрын
@@siresquawks Not saying it's true but I think its interesting. Im confused about how it makes the MCI screwy though. I feel like it would make happiest day more poetic if the happiest day party is the literal party that the kids never got to have. Balloon boy kid says all the kids are gonna go to BV's party and then they never show up. I feel like this is the original intent but likely retconned.
@chaoraiser2338
@chaoraiser2338 7 ай бұрын
Hmmm i have an idea it's probably not likely but its something what if the first phone call was just a recording the company established them so that way they know the basics and stuff so then phone guy who most likely knows he were working there so then calls the next night unlikely but its something another idea that might be more likely imo would be that they are all recorded until maybe night 5 or 4 not sure but that's really all i got
@chewtag
@chewtag 7 ай бұрын
what if fnaf 2 is a dream or jeremy is a time traveller
@jetperson3billion439
@jetperson3billion439 7 ай бұрын
thankful for this video
@sworishina
@sworishina 7 ай бұрын
Personally, here's my idea of the timeline: Security guard 01 (William) is hired. After like a bit he gets moved to dayshift and Fazbear Entertainment hires Jeremy. William does the MCI at the end of Jeremy's first week, and as seen on the newspapers in FNAF 1, is the prime suspect (though they never manage to prove he did it). He gets fired or moved to a position where he's not interacting with the public. Jeremy is promoted to the dayshift (and Fritz is the new nightguard). Jeremy then gets his frontal lobe bit off and there's kind of a whole deal about that. The location shuts down and everyone who worked there is laid off. This makes it really hard for Jeremy to get his paycheck because there's nobody left to pay him. After enough time he manages to find a contact at Fazbear Entertainment and harasses them until they pay him. They don't pay him for the overtime, though, so Jeremy calls them back up and they send him the overtime check the next day.
@Wizardjones69
@Wizardjones69 7 ай бұрын
in my opinion night 7 takes place before the day party of the bite, but this night still takes place after night 6
@sworishina
@sworishina 7 ай бұрын
@@Wizardjones69 Yeah I wasn't super clear about it but I thought it was assumed the bite happened after Fritz's night
@marx4538
@marx4538 7 ай бұрын
3:53 Wait, why is there a custom night Funtime Foxy jumpscare frame there?
@arthrobombus1749
@arthrobombus1749 7 ай бұрын
It a long running joke on the channel that funtime foxy is phone guy in a mock/joke theory sire squawks made.
@marx4538
@marx4538 7 ай бұрын
@@arthrobombus1749 Oh
@loganisanerd5566
@loganisanerd5566 7 ай бұрын
I respect trying to simplify things, but if we assume everything that doesn’t make sense is just wrong, then we're going to end up ignoring amost the entire plot.
@siresquawks
@siresquawks 7 ай бұрын
I mean I'm not saying it's wrong for simplicity. I'm saying, hey look at these assets, they're identical to the first game, this may be the source of an error where this text was left in. that's not ignoring something.
@Amaipuppy
@Amaipuppy 7 ай бұрын
Mr.Hippo "Ah, it seems that you have met your end. Ah, what a pity. You know I, I don’t feel too bad about it though, after all if it weren’t me, it would’ve just been one of the others I guess… I’m honestly just glad to be out of those air ducts. You know it’s… it’s not easy for a hippopotamus to fit up there… and… not easy to get down either. I’m not as young as I used to be as you can see, I used to be able to do all sorts of things, you’re young, you’re vibrant, you have that sort of pep in your step. Ah, it reminds me of a conversation I was having with one of my good friends Orville. We were having a nice picnic one day. I believe it was summer? Oh, perhaps it was… was it the fall? Yes, yes, it was the fall because the leaves had turned already. But I said to Orville, I- I says, “Orville, I have a story to tell you.” And Orville looked at me, you know, kind of odd and- and said, “Well what’s it about?” I- I said to him, “Not every story has to be about something Orville. Sometimes a person just wants to talk, why does it have to be a story?” I said to him. He just looked at me and he said, “Well y-y-you said you had a story.” You know, he was quite right, I did in fact. I told him I had a story. I suppose if a person just wants to talk, it’s best to not announce that you’re tellin’ a story. Tellin’ a story does come with its own pressures and expectations I- I suppose. After all, if you’re just talking to a friend then, there’s no more expectations then if you were talking into the wind. Words… by themselves are not expected to carry… aren’t expected to stick. But if, you know if you announce that you’re tellin’ a story well then… there better be a point to it all. No one wants to sit and listen to someone ramble on and on and on with absolutely no end in sight. So, you know, it’s- it’s good to be mindful that when you tell someone that you’re about to tell a story, that you have something to say. Tellin’ someone that you’re gonna tell a story is tantamount to asking them to stop what they’re doing, and pay attention. You’re basically saying “hey, hey, hey buddy, stop everything, stop what you’re thinking, I have a solution to everything.” And well, I didn’t really have any story to tell. In- in hindsight I probably just misspoke when I said that I had a story. I think it would’ve just been better to tell Orville that I had something to tell him rather than tell him that I had a story, but you know e- even then it might’ve put too much importance on the whole thing. Either way it was quite a nice day. I remember, I remember that we were drinking tea." TL/DR I think scott is admitting he made a mistake and that it was fall.
@Someguy7771
@Someguy7771 7 ай бұрын
AND WHY THE F DID HE IGNORE BALON BOI
@thedarkdevil1661
@thedarkdevil1661 7 ай бұрын
9:09-9:13 probably because he was too busy trying to add a Friday the 13th reference with the Bite of 87. And since he knew there was a friday the 13th in November, he had kept the pay check in November and didn't change the "summer job" line. (February and March 1987 also have a Friday the 13th) As for why the date is a Friday the 13th reference. Well..... Jeremy is paid on November 13th 1987 on night 5. A Thursday. Then he gets paid for overtime on night 6 ,November 13th 1987, Friday the 13th. This is also the day the bite happens. Meaning the event that stopped the animatronics freeloading during the day, the bite of 87, took place on the unluckiest day of the year, Friday the 13th. Also, it disproves that FNAF 1 takes place in 1993, because if night 5 is always a Thursday, like in FNAF 2, that means Night 6 is the 13th as well, not Night 5 like Matpat said. If night 5 (12th) was a friday then Yes. In 1993, the 12th is a Friday. But Scott "clarified in the next game" that Fazbear's pays people on Thursdays, and the next Friday November 13th is in 1992, which fits into the possible gap for the pay, 1990 to 1996. As for FNAF 3, most people think it's in 2023, since its 30 years after 1993, when Matpat said Fnaf 1 shut down. However, as 1993 has been proven wrong.... In the description for Fnaf 3, it says "30 years after the incidents at Freddy Fazbear's Pizza...", which mainly took place in 1985. This would put Fnaf 3 in 2015, the year it released. And fancy that, in 2015, November 13th is once again a Friday. Meaning FNAF 3 took place in 2015, and could've taken place, again, on the days November 8th-13th. XD In conclusion Fnaf 2 is in 1987, while Fnaf 1 is in 1992, not 1993. Night 6 seems to always be on Friday the 13th. FNAF 3 is in 2015, when the game released, not in 2023. And, fitting this pattern, Fnaf 3's night 6 could've taken place on Friday 13th November 2015.
@siresquawks
@siresquawks 7 ай бұрын
It wouldn't be Friday the 13th though. That's night 6. So unless Jeremy canonically gets bit that night which we don't see happen, he'd be bit the 14th at the soonest.
@thedarkdevil1661
@thedarkdevil1661 7 ай бұрын
​​​​​​​​​​@@siresquawksI'm pretty sure he does night 6, stayed awake for the dayshift (that Phone Guy told him he'd be doing on the night 6 phone call), got paid for his night shift, and got bit all in one day. So he did the nights, then got paid later in the day. So night 5 and 6 begin at 12:00am/0:00am on the days he gets paid: 1) Jeremy came in at, like, 11:30 on Thursday 12th 2) Night 6 started at 12:00-6:00am on Friday 13th. 3) Phone Guy's says Jeremy will be moved to the dayshift for "one last party" 4) Jeremy gets paid for the overtime. 5) Jeremy does the Friday dayshift later that day. 6) The bite of 87 takes place on Friday 13th. Also payslips normally show the day you get paid on, not the shift you did. Since Fnaf pays the guards at the end of their work week, this means their slips show which morning night 5 and 6 end on. So night 6 would happen at 12am-6am on Friday 13th, then get paid later that day, so his payslip would say the same date. Basically, the Fnaf "night" guards get paid for doing the very very early morning shifts, 12am to 6am. But "Five Very early mornings at Freddys" doesn't have the same ring to it. 😂 Edit: The only thing that might say the bite happened on the 14th is Phone Guy saying "we have a birthday party tomorrow. A birthday. You'll be on Dayshift. Stay close to the animatronics" As someone who, at 12am in the morning, would call later that day, say around 7am, "tomorrow", that's probably all it means. I'm assuming you thought he did night 6 and got paid on day 7. But realistically he'd do night 6 and get paid later that day. So, via this logic, even if he did 8pm Thursday 12th to 6am Friday 13th, his paycheck would still say Friday 13th, since that's the day he gets paid. (I've seen enough of my IRL pay checks to know that it only every shows the day you get paid, and the overall money you made) So in conclusion: 1) Thursday 12th Jeremy comes in for overtime, 11pm...ish 2) Friday 13th Jeremy does night 6, 12am-6am 3) Friday 13th, Jeremy comes in and gets another paycheck for his overtime. 4) Friday 13th, Jeremy does the dayshift and stays close to the animatronics, as instructed. 5) Friday 13th Jeremy is bit by a, now highly aggressive towards anyone even kids, animatronic. 6) Friday 13th November 1987, Newspaper is printed saying that the Toy animatronics will be Scrapped. 7) Saturday 14th, Fritz does Custom night, 12am-6am. 8) Saturday 14th, Fritz is fired for tampering, and the Fnaf 2 location officially closes and is boarded up.
@Wizardjones69
@Wizardjones69 7 ай бұрын
@@thedarkdevil1661 i think the 14th november would be the bite, after night 7 when mike tampered with the animatronics to cause another bite by accident
@thedarkdevil1661
@thedarkdevil1661 7 ай бұрын
@@Wizardjones69 I doubt that. I wish it was but the lore has told us that: 1) In Fnaf 1, the bite of 87 is why the animatronics don't roam around "during the day", meaning the bite happened during the dayshift. 2) The animatronics keep getting more and more aggressive throughout FNAF 2, going from aggressive against adults to even being aggressive towards kids. 3) on night 6, Jeremy is told he'll be on the day shift "tomorrow" (when the restaurant opens in the morning) 4) Jeremy has to "stay close to the animatronics". The Highly aggressive animatronics, who hate adults, like Jeremy. JEREMY IS GOING TO GET BIT!!!! 5) Behind the night 6 slip, which he would've got during the dayshift, later that day, it says that Freddy's will close and the toys will be Scrapped. (Meaning only one more shift remains, the final night shift) 6) Fritz comes in for the final night, and gets fired for tampering, and Odor. No mention of a second bite, let alone it happening to Fritz/Michael.
@Wizardjones69
@Wizardjones69 7 ай бұрын
@@thedarkdevil1661 i mean by fritz tampering with the toys to bite jeremy by accident after night 7, so mike would be truly guilty about it, first his brother and now another guy died by his actions
@thesmilingman7576
@thesmilingman7576 7 ай бұрын
3:15 I don't think night 7 is canon cause shouldn't they do something about the animatronic who just bit the last guys brain
@gameover9390
@gameover9390 7 ай бұрын
5:01 Because the Location closes, for someone ranting about Phone guy calls, you sure as shit weren’t listening to what he says, the location closes due to the police investigation. Then months later it opens again with a Grand Re-opening and Jeremy gets hired, the location then permanently closes due to animatronic malfunction mention in the newspaper.
@spongebobguy2cook
@spongebobguy2cook 5 ай бұрын
4:01 Oh one possible explanation is that the brings up summer cus its a script made in response in to MCI which is in June Summer My favorite video on this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i6-IdaeVntvTZas.htmlsi=J_yvu4H7uJKH6EVM
@VJArt_
@VJArt_ 7 ай бұрын
Why did you need to specify William isnt fritz ifwe established hes the 1st guard, the pink slip clearly labels him as Employee no.3
@siresquawks
@siresquawks 7 ай бұрын
Just being thorough
@thesmilingman7576
@thesmilingman7576 7 ай бұрын
5:15 or if you're Afton your bare hands
@ZorusSerif
@ZorusSerif 5 ай бұрын
Wasn't this just a mistake on Scott's part?
@gameover9390
@gameover9390 7 ай бұрын
Did everyone just forget the fact that FNAF 2 location is opened Twice? The news paper that Jeremy signs up for is titled the Grand ‘RE’-Opening. If this was the first opening it would be the Grand opening of the new and improved Freddy’s, you don’t hear a new McDonald’s or Disneyland location grand opening being called the grand re-opening NO! Because that implies the place has been opened before. This solves the phone call isssue and the paychecck issue, phone guy calls are always pre recorded and his calls are from summer back when William was there. This also means the guard that listed as 1 with Jeremy being 2 and Friz being 3, is phone guy as he says”When the place opens up again, I take the nightshift myself.”how has this been forgotten by Everyone?
@Wizardjones69
@Wizardjones69 7 ай бұрын
the grand re opening from freddy's after the 1985 mci
@gameover9390
@gameover9390 7 ай бұрын
@@Wizardjones69 This is literally the English language definition of Grand Re-opening:The expression "grand opening" would refer to the celebration of the opening of the store, the initial opening. " re-grand opening" then refers to a repetition of the (initial) celebration of the opening of the store
@L1z43vr
@L1z43vr 7 ай бұрын
@@gameover9390Thing is, this IS technically a reopening. The reopening of Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza, you know; the one that closed down? So it’s still a grand reopening, even though it’s a new building.
@gameover9390
@gameover9390 7 ай бұрын
@@L1z43vr I explained earlier how that can’t be the case, but F-k it. Let say it true, this however implies Scott has a pretty poor understanding of his own language.
@Wort-Wort
@Wort-Wort 7 ай бұрын
Or… oorrr he got hired in November and the recordings you hear are for a summer job and they just repurposed them. The restaurant at this point is definitely outside its prime it clearly isnt at the grand reopening And you’re over thinking this Its possible the animatronics became more aggressive on the 6th night simply because they were already like that the animatronics on night 5 are also rapidly aggressive. Do you realize that they dont want to solve the issue because fazbears entertainment is a cheap company? And they dont want to fix this because that cost money. And could end up finding dead kids which would be a whole other case.
@siresquawks
@siresquawks 7 ай бұрын
Your underthinking this. They aren’t even recordings in this game to our knowledge.
@Wort-Wort
@Wort-Wort 7 ай бұрын
@@siresquawksok so the thing im mostly focused on is every case of fazbear entertainments corruptness. They dont want these cases to be solved clearly enough. If they scrap the animatronics the case is solved. So they have to hold off on it and hope everything dies down and its just a wire malfunction They dont want to deal with that issue because they’re a corrupt cheap company that doesnt want to deal with lawsuits.
@vsnake8663
@vsnake8663 7 ай бұрын
I don't think that's the case. Phone guy talks about things that are exclusive to the FNAF 2 location, like the mask, the toy animatronics, and the music box. Furthermore, the phone calls from night four onward are reactive to events that are happening, with night six having phone guy literally ask the player character what on earth they're doing there. It doesn't make sense to say that these were, say, recorded for the previous location, which we know did not contain the toy animatronics, and repurposed for the events of FNAF 2. The contents of the phone calls don't match up to what we know about the previous location.
@Wort-Wort
@Wort-Wort 7 ай бұрын
@@vsnake8663 i meant the recordings could have been made over summer As for the coincidental events its possible your character is playing them in accordance with the situation that’s happening which is why they line up
@vsnake8663
@vsnake8663 7 ай бұрын
@@Wort-Wort They couldn't have been recorded in the summer and hired in November because the establishment was only open "a few short weeks", as told by the end-of-week newspaper clipping. And furthermore, I think chalking the events up to a coincidence, that the events that phone guy described just happened again is sorta... lame. Like what's the point? Why not just have it all occur on one week? What does it change about the narrative? To me, it just seems more rational to assume that Scott just made a mistake because of how small and easy to overlook it is.
@fmstareyes
@fmstareyes 7 ай бұрын
whats with the funtime foxy
@siresquawks
@siresquawks 7 ай бұрын
Running joke
@br2891
@br2891 7 ай бұрын
yes
@alexbigloo
@alexbigloo 7 ай бұрын
It's a continuity error lil bro its not that deep
@trolleymouse
@trolleymouse 7 ай бұрын
My theory: Brazil.
@Boigboi88
@Boigboi88 7 ай бұрын
I feel like no one has really talked at length about how both FNAF 1 and 2 have the exact same dates on the checks. Lore wise, it would imply that both games are happening at the same time.
@siresquawks
@siresquawks 7 ай бұрын
I talk about this in the video
@isabelortiz1230
@isabelortiz1230 7 ай бұрын
Nope
@mylam658
@mylam658 7 ай бұрын
Where did you get that? Sure, the time of month and day is the same, but the year on the paycheck on FNAF 1 is displayed as "xx".
@echo_z319
@echo_z319 7 ай бұрын
bro what…
@smashers6971
@smashers6971 7 ай бұрын
The more I think about it the more FNAF2 is the most confusing and irrelevant game in the games story.
@Ace.t177
@Ace.t177 7 ай бұрын
Nah, the most irrelevant is definately fnaf 1, but it get's a pass due to being the first
@Fractured_Reflection
@Fractured_Reflection 7 ай бұрын
It introduces two new protagonists that never show up ever again. I think that's a pretty big indicator.
@InfalliblePizza
@InfalliblePizza 7 ай бұрын
It really is, but it does establish some hard facts we have today, such as there being only 5 MCI victims. Its not completely useless.
@echo_z319
@echo_z319 7 ай бұрын
most confusing????? bro has never played any of the second trilogy
@chewtag
@chewtag 7 ай бұрын
dont even get me started on the design and layout of the fnaf 2 pizzeria
@ticklemedaddy
@ticklemedaddy 7 ай бұрын
Isn't the paycheck just a stock image
@siresquawks
@siresquawks 7 ай бұрын
not to my knowledge?
@ticklemedaddy
@ticklemedaddy 7 ай бұрын
@@siresquawks If I recall, sometime this year (or late last year) we did find the original images scott used for the checkmarks in both FNaF 1 and 2, which are stock photos so really, the checkmark reading november despite the game taking place sometime in summer; was a result of scott not editing over the original date on the image a lot of the lore "confusion" is as a result of scott not thinking ahead and thus the community overthinking it, which I find amusing
@siresquawks
@siresquawks 7 ай бұрын
@@ticklemedaddy The problem being things are changed appropriately. I doubt the original check specified 1987 and "xx" for the year in 1, or the correct people to address it to, or that it was from fazbear entertainment. This really only confirms one thing if true, he reused the base of the check and edited it accordingly. This doesn't make the checks lore irrelevant really does it? Also I prefer when sources are sited before claims about writing and content are made. I don't trust random youtube comments ever since "Man_Sitting".
@ticklemedaddy
@ticklemedaddy 7 ай бұрын
@@siresquawks Fair fair, I believe there was a whole thresd about but I'm sure if I were to look for it, it'd come back as "UURRRRGGGGHHH SOMETHING WENT OOPSIE! PWEASE TRY AGAIN LATER WE'RE TOO LAZY TO MAINTAIN OUR SERVERS!" it's possible the game was meant to take place in november and scott changed his mind and didn't bother updating the checkmark, I feel like that's a trand with scott and some parts of FNaF 2, like a whole easter egg mechanic being dummied out by accident
@Wizardjones69
@Wizardjones69 6 ай бұрын
​@@ticklemedaddywell, fnaf 2 is a rushed game *coughs* music box ass gameplay *coughs*
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