I remember reading the original WC3 online guide back in the day. There was a screenshot of 3 peons walking across the map under the section "Offensive Towering", with the statement "orcs are more likely than any other race to offensive tower. If you ever see a group of peons like this, odds are they're up to no good".

love how that dude tunnel vision that 1 specific road and forgot he can walk around it to creep

When he said "WTF LOCKING ME IN LIKE AN ANIMAL" I lol'd so hard

I remember doing something akin to this with undead towers way back in highschool during a lan contest hosted by the computer class teacher, with the prize being a 20$ coupon, and the funniest is I didn't even really want to join nor cared enough to win, I just did it out of the blue, managed to drag on the fight for so long the teacher had to call it a ''draw'' and claim the victor by the amount of points generated, and by sheer luck I actually won by a few hundred points. Boy was that high ego nerd who gloated about being the best at the game genuinely livid, one of the only good memories I have of highschool.

The Orc Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.

"The jedi wouldn't teach you this build order because it sucks" loved the intro.

That was fun, didnt know it was you :D

"You know what, we can build the towers outside of vision. They don't need to be in vision" Puts down tower "It's in vision, dammit" Good stuff grubby 😂

7:58 "You know what this is a symbolism for?" Me: looking at the farms

Beside Grubby's excellent game play, I love his interpretation of the game. The analogy between getting tower rushed and reading gloomy news are so relatable. It taught me game and life lessons at the same time.

Doesn't this count as pitlord hero only challenge?

11:00 Got those militia running around like a failed 25 Man Magtheridon's Lair. XD

Health management of that pit lord was incredible

I admire your life philosophy. In this particular case - about what you tell about "reading news", also other things like "just do it", "don't be afraid to lose/make mistakes", "have fun because life is short". Also I like how calm you react to setbacks, without griefing opponents.

I did something similar in a Warcraft 2 match in the late 90s. But I built 9 towers surrounding the town hall and then waited until I had enough resources to upgrade them all to cannon towers in one go so my opponent wouldn't get attack notifications until they were all well underway. Decimated his town. We were both human so he didn't notice the color difference in the buildings.

This is too funny. He could have just walked around it and attacked your base. The problem-solving skills of some human beings and players are so funny

I'm dying to know if a rematch happend!

I used to have an 80% winrate with this on the old Punder Isle. Vs Human and Undead I'd have to change it up a bit though, human I'd try to hide them and go spikes.

The fun you making with these series is something i didnt know i need in my life :) cheers

Great video and game man, watched excited till the end! Keep doing what you doing bro

awesome content grub, keep it up, your 33yo friend from germany :) i miss when i was 14-15 yo, young boi and w3 came out but i myself am on a jurney to achive other things, thus its great that you still care for this hobby of mine, wc3

my childhood game. the game that got me hooked to rts games. please make more of it. it brightens my day seeing it!

The best way to stop a tower rush is to build towers of your own in the Frontline. They have same range, so your opponent won't be able to build forward. Then you get the artillery and hit safely from behind the towers.

this strat is actually one of my fave to do. i've always been a fan of using towers in my builds

I thought the entire idea of a tower rush was to build outside of vision and build towards base slowly. That way you can build bunkers, barracks near towers

At the very end, Online friends rose to 2. This dude has no patience.

Just found out they remastered this game (a few years ago now looks like). Loved watching 4kGrubby play.

8:00 If you mean national news, like CNN, MSNBC, FOX, etc.. Then yes. Absolutely correct. Local news is more important though, especially when someone dangerous is on the loose, or adverse weather events are going to be catastrophic.

How did this get 422k views? Congrats!

Jesus. I remember playing this with a friend as a kid. It was in like 2008 or something. I loved this game! I’m glad I found out what I was actually playing 😅

9:38 that health potion was the epitome of browneye clenching

grub as always some lovely ideas / words / feelings / gameplay spread :)

This intro is legendary. Brightened my day tenfold!

i only played WC 1 and 2, SC 1 and 2... This was my first WC3 match i ever seen and i wasnt disappointed! Really cool

Grubby you're a such a god. You had a big role in my life when I was a kid by being the best orc player and first pro I watched... I wished I was as good as you. I havent played in what feels like 15 years but just wanted to remind to let you know the level of the impact you had on many of us is even greater than one would think. switching to far seer and wolves first because I saw a pro like you do it was life changing to my childhood. Never thought I'd be able to thank you for being the best ORC player at the time if not still. But thank you man!

I tower rushed a lot as orc back in the day. Always build out of sight if possible so they don't know you are there until your second row of towers goes down. Also, I would build the altar and build a burrow there as well so I could bring my hero directly into the fight, and avoid target fire against peons.

“When man meets an obstacle he can't destroy, he destroys himself” Ryszard Kapuscinski, The Other

I had this happen to me once when I was new. I was like WTF is going on. Lost all my workers trying to take down his towers

This has to be some form of cyber bullying

When I was a kid I enjoyed playing this game till our computer just destroyed itself because I was so addicted to this game. Now that I've grown up and I was thinking till to this day that I thought I was playing DOTA when I was a kid but boy I was wrong. I just discovered THIS DAY that I was playing Warcraft.

yup i used this many many times in wc3 online.... people would be so mad because id keep moving my towers closer while developing an army in the back

The same strat applicable to SC2 protoss cannon rush - just make an expansion and attack the base there is nothing there

Ah, good old days from a 2003-ish

10:44 What a perfect sound effect for the Rain of Fire.

Looks like the guy accepted the friend request at 14:20 and then came online at 14:30? Perhaps they closed the game after the match?

when i played wc3 i used scorched earth tactic with the undead. slowly spreading out corruption with massive amounts of towers reducing the amount of usable land for other races more and more untill the enemy has no chance of winning left. its fun but takes forever and if the enemy finds out what youre doing early theyre almost guaranteed to rush you down.

'i dont dare' hahahaha

This was awesome, the guy can surely cite a few ways he could have gone out of this, but there and then purely the psychological factor gave in and he failed. That's why playing with real people will forever be better than the most advanced ai.

tower rush with farseer gruntapult + a zepplin for treeline harass is devastating, especially against NE. a NE with a compromised treeline, is a leaky arse boat. especially with the burning oil upgrade. demolishers are nuts already, not to mention firing from fog of war at literal trees.

8:10 the thing you mentioned there and pointed on was very wise!

Love the tower rushes too much fun lol

14:28 the last millisecond after you check him accepting your friend request he did it😂😮

Can you link to the full streams your videos come from, or at least which platform was used for the stream?

Watching for the entertainment of cheap rushes, didnt expect day to day philosophical observations.

I don't know how this is going to work but it works, tnx Grubby.

This was quite fun to watch

So with that rush we used to build barrack and maybe altar near the tower rush and get orc catapults at their base

Probably the best tower cheese i ever had done to me is they built.towers to annoy me and box me in, but they had 1 or 2 peons chop down trees and tbey slowly built a path to my gold mine, and they built.towers behind a treeline so i couldnt see them, then they ran some peons into my base and the towers started killing my workers. I've also seen this work with night elves

The algorithm works perfectly! This brings so many good memories! I started watching your match when I was in middle school around 2006 ~ 2008, you, Moon, and Sky. I hope you're doing well!

lol I loved the newspaper reference

opponents laughed, but Grubby is the last men Laughing :D

the rare Wc3 opponent who has a sense of humor.

Petrov's The Fence: 3 Peons Tower Variant

Did u do it? Yes What did it cost u? Ashenvale Forest

Did bo really just "rematch me if you dare" grubby?

That's news analogy was smart.

Lmao, the guy saying "rematch me if you dare" to a world champion. Gold.

Haha, I love this! Tak3r would be so proud of you.

So I assume the correct counter would have been to just walk past the towers and kill the completely undefended base which was supplying the lumber for all the towers?

hi grubby, the pitlord says, “what a foolish *ploy*”

been on vacation last couple weeks, everytime I see a grubby vid I click! thanks for the fun vids, vacay about over now :(

I ran this similar build back in original wc3

Why do I love this so much

Life tip: Eventually, the bad news reaches your base, so don't have your head in the sand

Blizz. made a mistake when they chose to stop advancing WC RTS. Now we're stuck with SC HD, aka "SC2", and WC Reforged

Campaign: Use Defense to counter arrows. Player: Send footies with Defend to counter tower, but forgot mobility issue. XD

things I learnt from this video: Don't read/watch the news 🤣

8:10 I hope that is not your life philosophy - just bury your head in the sand until something bites you in the ass

havent played warcraft3 since 2010. Was 6000+ games 60% winratio undead / nightelf, and when i wanted to try it again, blizz had deleted my account ... But was a big fan of 4K, ToD, Grubby and FoV, not so much of Zeus, but i think Creo was at 4k also at one time ? He was my fav nelf. Pretty much whole 4K were my favourites. Orc tower rushes were kinda strong in team games in 3s, kinda strongest of all of them. But well, i even did stupid things from time to time as undead tower rush :p

Correct me if I'm wrong, but could he not just ignore the towers and farm lvl 2/mortars before fighting the towers?

How does he have information about hero in top left corner? Anyone can explain?

Hearing the audio of 1000 clicks when you do one thing, or no things, is interesting

"such a foolish boy" - grubbeh

is this reforged? did they fix that thing or did they let people play the good old version again?

"What a foolish _ploy_". Not "What a foolish boy"

now we need 3 wisps rush and 3 acolytes rush

Seems like one of the towers should be a burrow for economy amd to burrow peons in event he does attack towers?

This is similarthe "Sim City" cheese in Company of heroes for the british.

I really hope you upload that Paladin and Priest only game.

6:19 I think the pit lord is saying what a foolish 'ploy'... not boy.

Is og WC3 worth playing after they retro some changes from Reforged?

Loool the start is hilarious

4:40 im super surprised he got surrounded there - was it intentional? you can see him position to surround the image just seconds before

I love the Pit Lord.

I really wish you rematched and did the same damn thing

does anyone know what the wc3 mod grubby is using to show apm and the other stuffs

Yoy know what the scary part of all of this is? The moment you see a strategy like this, you see it and think "he is not taking it seriously, there is NO WAY I'll allow him to get away with it". The single thought of you loosing to this, the humiliation that comes woth the idea of loosing against someone not really trying, is what takes you out of focus. You no longer think straight, you start making mistakes and letting him take advntage of them. The sole idea of loosing to something like this is what makes players loose against it, that... And not really knowing how to respond to such strange tactics.

I usually saw this with Humans when I was pretty new to the game back in the day.

3:55 20 years later, after all those patches, the Murlocs still have their fucked up shield textures with squared black corners.

I've seen some cheap tactics before, but this takes the cake.