Football's Secret Fight Club

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10 ай бұрын

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Hooliganism in football is nothing new. But whilst tighter rules, regulations and banning orders are preventing it from appearing in the stadiums alongside the games, it continues away from the matchday audience.
More organised, more violent and much more secretive, this is the story of how hooliganism is very much still a part of European football, and many of the best hooligans and ultras are now on the front lines defending their nations.
Written by James Montague, illustrated by Alice Devine.
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@muhammadamirullahzulkifli4765 10 ай бұрын

Tifo broke the first rule

@GuinessOriginal 10 ай бұрын

Ve are Germans. Ve haf vays ov making you tak

@user-pj2so3qv4l 10 ай бұрын

@@GuinessOriginalsomehow this comment has a translate option???

@olanrewaju8202 10 ай бұрын

@@user-pj2so3qv4lGoogle translate

@malahammer 10 ай бұрын

@@GuinessOriginal Don't tell him Pike!

@hanifanuar8720 10 ай бұрын

😂

@MuKori 10 ай бұрын

Trust the Germans to make an organised and efficient fight club 😅

@redo6309 10 ай бұрын

guten tag

@user-hr9km7pq8r 10 ай бұрын

Greeks left the chat

@AJ-fi2hk 10 ай бұрын

😂😂

@adam74bes35 10 ай бұрын

this has been around at least in my country for tens of years before it started in europe

@a.meeeezy9576 10 ай бұрын

@@adam74bes35🤡🤡🤡

@drex5160 10 ай бұрын

Didnt know Mane vs Sane was this serious

@ejirogheneenumeru2341 10 ай бұрын

my first thought exactly

@flayar3207 10 ай бұрын

I mean wow. This channel really does shine a light on the less seen side of football and also how something as kicking a ball can lead to actual world conflict.

@Ietmeth1nk 10 ай бұрын

Your statement is confusing my man

@flayar3207 10 ай бұрын

@@Ietmeth1nk that better my g?

@blyat420 10 ай бұрын

@@Ietmeth1nkdk what he sais before he edited the comment, but he was probably talking about the ikrainian hooligans joining the protests and riots in 2014, which then also led to the invasion of crimea, donbas and donetsk and most likely is connected to the 2022 invasion.

@lewis5319 10 ай бұрын

Fiago be running the Hamburg fight club 🥶🥶🥶

@MrBlackout97 10 ай бұрын

Underrated comment 🤣🤣

@saichoz 10 ай бұрын

Tifo always raising the bar with such football pieces! Fantastic

@GuinessOriginal 10 ай бұрын

A fan of far right propaganda are you? Welcome to authoritarianism

@nickwoodward819 10 ай бұрын

I'd rather they brought back the podcast. They've even stopped bothering to upload it

@Snookbone 10 ай бұрын

Well done on Liking The Thing

@notpissedenough5623 9 ай бұрын

He spend the whole video praising fascists

@GuinessOriginal 9 ай бұрын

@@notpissedenough5623 this is just CIA propaganda, script was definitely handed to them by the NYT. Embarrassing that they agreed to do it. The channel is a joke now

@vince7207 10 ай бұрын

Even German hooliganism is efficient.

@cabraonropes5622 9 ай бұрын

Polish hooliganism is so much better tho, Frankfurt get battered by Poznan all the time.

@Combat-Mindset 3 ай бұрын

@@cabraonropes5622 Dont spam your BS under every comment!

@Killifar 10 ай бұрын

Now to make league based systems, cups and champion/europa league included.

@IncredibleMet 10 ай бұрын

Now we go to VAR. Did they continue beating the opponent when they were knocked out? This is for a spot for UCL secret fight club quarterfinals. Always tough to loose on penalties after 39 seconds of extra time.

@BoydernUpland 10 ай бұрын

I’ll do a spreadsheet I love them

@jonfee5081 10 ай бұрын

I want to be that ref

@ee-pd6oq 10 ай бұрын

@@IncredibleMet He did beat him when he was knocked out, however, he did not realise he was knocked out. It should have been a yellow card, not red

@ee-pd6oq 10 ай бұрын

Home advantage is picking where to have the fight

@faleilham8334 10 ай бұрын

I remember there's one BR/Football episode where Diego Simeone organized secret fighting club for footballers.

@zes3542 10 ай бұрын

wow never knew about this, tifo really is one of the best football related youtubers, quality quality vids👍👍

@GuinessOriginal 10 ай бұрын

NYT propaganda

@alanfox691 10 ай бұрын

Have you been living under a stone since 2010. This has been going on since at least 2010 if not slightly before that.

@aimanazrie8944 10 ай бұрын

@@alanfox691 it's a well-kept secret, of course not many people will know that, genius.

@amekaiza 10 ай бұрын

Simp

@mazdelaney 10 ай бұрын

At least I know the answer to why hooliganism seemed to stop. You’d read about constant hooliganism in the papers and then one day you didn’t. This makes a lot of sense.

@therav2278 10 ай бұрын

Let me just say, if you're not part of ultras group or you never took a trip for a meet up with other ultras, you can only vaguely guess how things are played out. It obviously variates from country to country, but things are far more complex than one would assume. Stories are told all around, but 90% of the entirety is never spoken of, you can see a couple of minutes of a fight in videos, but the entire background and what goes on before and after is something you'd have to be a part of to know. I know a lot of people find these fights to be idiotic and dumb, am not gonna try to prove anyone wrong, but you'd have to be there to actually get a full picture to understand.

@cabraonropes5622 9 ай бұрын

It’s about pride who is the best, and proud to be poznan🔵

@joonsiu_ 9 ай бұрын

Seems u speak from experience. Do share!

@christiandahl8596 10 ай бұрын

In Denmark its called "Skov Boksning" translated into "Forrest Boxing"

@Mr_jz_12 10 ай бұрын

Left out an important spec of information about the Azov too.

@V-O-V 10 ай бұрын

They stated they were far right multiple times or did you not pay attention?

@Mr_jz_12 10 ай бұрын

@@V-O-V difference from far right and straight neonazi's saluting and stuff.

@SockPuppet80 9 ай бұрын

@@V-O-V Meaningless label given what falls under it in the English-speaking world. They might have at least touched on what happened in Odesa in 2014, when they killed 48 people, mostly by burning them alive. But no, instead we hear that Azov "helped push back on the violence". Shameless.

@BocchitheRock132 10 ай бұрын

Can you make sensible transfers for chelsea hooligans ? We have some decent young fighters but lack leaders with experience. Do you think the vice captain of Bayern hooligans be willing to join us for 50 million as hes on the last year of his contract

@sanku1999 10 ай бұрын

They are importing youngsters from Brazil so Expect Chelsea hooligans to get their new high potential fighters from favelas.

@rory4605 10 ай бұрын

We can sign them on 8-year contracts with incentivised salaries (+£50,000 for headbutts, +£100,000 for crotch shots).

@LamontGranquist 10 ай бұрын

@@rory4605 Amortized over 8 years those contract incentives are pretty reasonable though

@Gooooner24 10 ай бұрын

Sergio Ramos' backyard

@12thMandalorian 10 ай бұрын

Rule 1: we don’t talk about fight club

@lewis5319 10 ай бұрын

Coach beard this you

@brianwong4988 10 ай бұрын

What is rule no.2?

@RonaldoSewy 10 ай бұрын

@@brianwong4988follow rule 1

@lewis5319 10 ай бұрын

@@brianwong4988 no fight club

@GuinessOriginal 10 ай бұрын

Wait till you and Tito find out about kots

@adnankassem8114 10 ай бұрын

This is wild. I like how they are super disciplined with MMA/gym training, no alcohol or drugs, military style heriarchy, strict rules on communication and proliferation. There has to be a movie/documentary on this - 110% would watch. LOL Europeans soccer fans are next level.

@Mr_jz_12 10 ай бұрын

there is a few interviews/mini doccos with the groups on youtube about this. I think vice did one on it.

@magnusl.eriksen5507 10 ай бұрын

Danish television have made a fictionary series about being in this 'community'. Dont know if its available for the world though

@AP-o2 10 ай бұрын

A Belgian photographer had a project called “bosfights” that got a lot of attention and praise. On a side note he had to defend himself in court later, he was one of those 66 people mentioned in the video, cause he was suspected to participate in free fights himself. So free fights are definitely not that secretive anymore.

@JoelWilliamb 10 ай бұрын

just look up king of the streets on here. You'll find most of the guys involved are from firms and the more popular ones will vlog their training and prep, mini docs etc

@shaikaftab1199 10 ай бұрын

Damn, Football stories are crazy, never ending supply of craziness.

@yan.weather 10 ай бұрын

“Professional hooliganism” might be the most lit oxymoron I’ve ever heard 😂

@frederik2220 9 ай бұрын

You missed that the polish forrest boxing are so organized that they have a league and every week a new magasin gets released with news of the lastest fights, league positions and so on.

@user-js1jy6te6x 7 ай бұрын

Is this magasin free available?

@TheCurrykiev 10 ай бұрын

Those guys that went to prison probably came out with another 100 members.😂

@RickysWisdom 10 ай бұрын

And 5x the experience

@ranabirmitra 10 ай бұрын

Such a brilliant brilliant video!! Thank you to the TIFO team & James Montague ❤

@gamsistired8203 10 ай бұрын

Being in a circle where I see all the (very few) videos, it is kept very secret and many Dont talk about it, this is like doing a documentary on fight club but having ten percent of the information you need to get the full picutre.

@Ese96Agoaye 10 ай бұрын

I like these random stories. My favourite is the one about the Victorian-style football match.

@javiercordova2108 10 ай бұрын

Man, love Tifo with their top journalism. Probably the best outlet for football

@the1HLT 10 ай бұрын

Definitely. Most other outlets are either click farming or paid for by the saudis or one of the other sports washers out there.

@shakiMiki 10 ай бұрын

Disappointed it wasn't bored rich players.

@steliosmouratidis3829 10 ай бұрын

2 days ago, an AEK fan from Greece was killed by Dinamo Zagreb hooligans after the latter made a raid consisting of 120-150 men in Athens. The timing of this video hit hard

@SevenTheMisgiven 10 ай бұрын

In which case this video is bordering propaganda because Tifo believes they don't do drugs and that they stick to the rules.

@samuelhakansson6680 26 күн бұрын

@@SevenTheMisgiven Its both. The structure is very loose so you get public episodes happening from time to time. Its not like there is a strict official confederation at the top that regulates every member and their activities down to the last detail, like football matches are.

@user-lc3rm8ck4c 10 ай бұрын

Great video. Hope more people will now understand what modern hooliganism is. The truth is that the scene of organized secret meetups has been around and prevailing for more that 12-15 years.

@don_chanGD 10 ай бұрын

honest to god how is this bad

@christoduplessis8177 10 ай бұрын

Dude Edward Norton and Brad Pitt being doing this since the 90s.

@SuperMickyChow 9 ай бұрын

Longer than that, even. The mobile phone made making a meet easy, you could change plans quickly, too, if there was too much police presence when you got to the oppos town.

@honestarsenalfan7038 10 ай бұрын

Right wing and Left wing only mean Saka and Martinelli to me.

@glennb6020 10 ай бұрын

Because you are an Ill-educated fool?

@grvsha 10 ай бұрын

you are a true gunner 😄

@jacknapier6668 10 ай бұрын

Mane and Salah to me but respect 😂😂

@DubRighteous 10 ай бұрын

Never found something so ridiculous yet so worthy of respect.

@eddietemple2302 10 ай бұрын

worthy of respect? if you exclusively mean the Ukrainians fighting for their country, yes.

@corintibbetts-harlow8021 10 ай бұрын

@@eddietemple2302 The Ukranians in question (Azov) are neo nazis and are, in fact, not worthy of respect

@danielwangchuk 10 ай бұрын

Tifo y'all are killing it. Give us more of these awesome contents m

@bangkokfreewalk5940 10 ай бұрын

Great vids Thanks Tifo team!

@jaypitaluga6179 10 ай бұрын

Wow, fantastic insight, I had no idea of this. Keep up the good work, Tifo family.

@EvilMammal 10 ай бұрын

i want more on this. it is absolutely fascinating !

@MosstafaSaleh 10 ай бұрын

Awesome episode but can we just recognize how CHILLING that music was

@stevenbrown6593 10 ай бұрын

This is the way it should be yet you still get people fighting in front of people that want to watch the game and in front of familys

@adedejijubril8048 10 ай бұрын

This is why I've always been inclined to opine that countries like Saudi Arabia can't replicate what top European leagues have through money-washing nor can FIFA achieve it by creating "more international club tournaments" Football in Europe is a cultural spectacle with numerous subcultures. These subcultures form the foundations of the authentic passion seen on match days. Any spectacle that's not rich in genuine passion is usually short-lived. Money can't buy something like this

@Phantom-ez4zv 10 ай бұрын

Saudi football has subculture , ittihad is 95 years old and ahli is 86 and shabab 76 al-Nasser and al-hilal almost 70 and all with generational fans and subcultures, rival team will fight outside the field physical and verbal, and in normal day to day you might get depromotion by a rival team supporter at work. Each team has ultras as well and club anthems Its also in South America , Europeans just suddenly forget that part it seems.

@user-ed7et3pb4o 10 ай бұрын

@@Phantom-ez4zvnobody doubts South America. But Saudi is a whole other balance of inauthenticity and sports washing and crazy inflation

@sbassett5572 10 ай бұрын

Been going on for decades.. We used to call it "Saturday" in 80s/90s

@AnonNomad 10 ай бұрын

Sure, but we grew out of it - mainlanders never did, or at least they try in vain to capture the essense of what it was like.

@RickysWisdom 10 ай бұрын

@@AnonNomadstill exists in Scotland

@cabraonropes5622 9 ай бұрын

@@RickysWisdomnot really like Europeans, they train for it with mma just read about warszaw ksw and all that they fight Germans French and some even fight professionally

@thztan7492 10 ай бұрын

I knew it will be james montague football journalism story. Nice👍

@mrlimey2419 10 ай бұрын

The example of a PC with a 5 inch floppy drive was on point.

@TomAbadie98 10 ай бұрын

Of course written by the wonderful James montague! Remember fights in Italy on the highway and in the netherlands in a nearby forest over the last season. Bing thing up in NL for sure

@afc4life_uk 10 ай бұрын

Tifo Football is one of my favourite channels, because it's so easy to learn things and they also make it interesting! Seriously, if Tifo Football and Joe Devine did educational videos when I was doing GCSE I would have legit got straight A*'s 😂

@cooler_typ9198 10 ай бұрын

I liked the video. In fact the topic seems so interessting, that I would love to see more about the hooligan scene. Where are the origins? How is the relation to football? In what way are theses effecting the normal fans? Is it transforming to a second game parallel to football or is it going to stand on its own one day?

@shaikaftab1199 10 ай бұрын

Wow. This is brilliant stories which makes us love Football.

@senorpython2262 10 ай бұрын

I would love too a see Madrid Derby Fight Club and an Milan Derby Fight club.

@GuinessOriginal 10 ай бұрын

You can see a Manchester one everyv Friday night

@glennb6020 10 ай бұрын

Why do you want to see that?

@senorpython2262 10 ай бұрын

@@glennb6020 Seeing the altercations Real and Atletico players get into. It would be funny.

@aquaowouko5295 10 ай бұрын

@@senorpython2262the players don't fight though. You'll have to wait for a regular Madrid or Milan derby

@gavunku 10 ай бұрын

The milan derby has cleaned itself up in the last couple of decades. Long gone are the times of scooters thrown from the spectators seats. Now besides a few jokes here and there there arent really any cases of violence between the 2 teams. I see inter v juve, roma v lazio, napoli v any of the big 3 in the north much more likely to happen. In fact they do happen, just not as organized as the examples in the video.

@kebabylon 10 ай бұрын

nicely brushed away the fact the azov brigade is overrun with nazis

@livwake 10 ай бұрын

What do you think far right means?

@murthisrikanth 10 ай бұрын

Wow. I'm speechless. 🤯

@MrMurgen 10 ай бұрын

So am I. This is insane. But better this way than fighting at or around Studiums

@Khigha87 10 ай бұрын

Yeah bruh. Me too. Like what the f? I do applaud them from keeping the rest of us out of it and safe. Hope they have volunteer emergency personnel to protect each other too. Stay safe guys.

@bryanoflynn5938 10 ай бұрын

Another great video. Thank you

@GrahamPlays 10 ай бұрын

Fantastic as always TIFO.

@esf88 10 ай бұрын

The Azov hahahahah! Hitters mates! Unbelievable reporting 👏 😤

@davidlean1060 10 ай бұрын

Personally, I think I'm allergic to fighting. Whenever I have one, I come out in lumps and bruises!

@42_answer64 10 ай бұрын

Brilliant footballing journalism!

@lidgie123 10 ай бұрын

Brilliant journalism 💪💪

@uncreative5766 10 ай бұрын

"His name was Robert Paulson."

@summonerbraddysg51 10 ай бұрын

Dude in the thumbnail is what i imagined Ghost combining with Price would look like

@galante6545 10 ай бұрын

Tifo goes so hard.. he talks about Fight Club

@mrgreen...9643 9 ай бұрын

This is the people's Army ready to do what is right and staying trained for when needed

@DaanP95 10 ай бұрын

2:43 They dont do drugs??? These guys use drugs all the time to have an advantage during the fight and get riled up, mostly coke or amfetamine.

@nzomy3056 10 ай бұрын

The soundtrack didn't have to slap THAT HARD.

@automatedcryptoapp4573 10 ай бұрын

Can you imagine penalty shoot outs.

@robert.257 10 ай бұрын

It's nice to know they stick to the Queensbury Rules.

@IncredibleMet 10 ай бұрын

You broke the first rule of Geheimer Fußball-Kampfclub!

@DL-nl6rj 10 ай бұрын

they should have international tournaments too

@HereGoesKevin 10 ай бұрын

I thought actual professional football players that we know are in those fightS 😆💀 imagine if Declan Rice just appears in game with a black eye and nobody knows how it happened lmao

@lizwewadi3681 10 ай бұрын

This is prime TIFO

@4lO_ol7 10 ай бұрын

Song = Girl with Balloon by Sayuri Hayashi Egnell

@belizeancyclist 10 ай бұрын

What is the name of the background song or artist?

@rooztube 10 ай бұрын

Can't beat the adrenaline rush..

@ImaSMACKHEAD982 10 ай бұрын

*Lauren James is perfect for this*

@nickfenn 10 ай бұрын

So they’re larping

@ariyo2012 10 ай бұрын

Fascinating 😮

@adityapurigoswami2626 10 ай бұрын

Awesome content as always....

@baileyleyser 10 ай бұрын

Damn I thought B/R was joking when they made the fight club episode of The Champions but no this is actually real 💀

@Quazzi 10 ай бұрын

It's always better to regulate than ban it seems, even in the case of hooligan scraps.

@nooyorcste 10 ай бұрын

usult z usult. sum surjn huz too spnd the evnng fcsng yor brocn fas nstd of spndng tim wth thar yung chldrn

@bebo-ce4yv 9 ай бұрын

Really interesting subject ❤, Please talk about the firms in England ❤❤ , we aren’t so innocent in the end .

@Dalethegoat 10 ай бұрын

I wish it still happening

@VexOW1 10 ай бұрын

this thing has REALLY REALLY grown in sweden recently as more clubs have started playing out in europe

@paranormalgambler2814 8 ай бұрын

Sounds like a normal week when i was in high school lol not gonna lie im into this sounds cool and a good way keep people outta trouble and wat not

@saqib7965 10 ай бұрын

They Should cast Edward Norton if they make this into a film

@mauriciomorales3165 10 ай бұрын

Could you share the references for this video? I think is really interesting!!!!

@javierhareed5541 3 ай бұрын

Saw this in a polish movie "Furioza"

@definepoetic 10 ай бұрын

Captivating video

@sunrae3971 10 ай бұрын

Would not mind if they having their own league. I mean K.O.T.S is almost UFC for Hooligans. But going after civilians like i witness by myself in the 90s is total no go.

@Starkweather133 10 ай бұрын

King of The Streets is the wildest thing I've seen, but yeah I guess closest we will get to a proper organised hooligan league

@alvarc3675 10 ай бұрын

i dont see why the f the police, the goverment and the justice have to get in the middle. This are grown ups who had agreed to exchange punches, with no weapons and without breaking any law. If only they put the same energy chasing the p3d0 networks around europe, that would be admirable and a true service to the community.

@geordiedog1749 10 ай бұрын

The implications of this are quite scary.

@cutecat1764 10 ай бұрын

in what way lol

@donaldmorrison9940 9 ай бұрын

If things go petong, we might be glad that there are 1000s of dedicated and well trained young men floating around.

@matt-yastim-erga 10 ай бұрын

Perfect! just perfect

@ivalemfana 10 ай бұрын

Fair enough I say . Let them be

@victoriaman117 8 ай бұрын

so a group of dedicated men are all travelling to a war zone to gain fighting experience and then heading home......yeah that wont be a problem

@erinadeola8387 10 ай бұрын

First rule of fight club, don't talk about fight club.

@SkinTightJaguar 10 ай бұрын

I would rather men who wanted to engage in violence did it with other willing participants away from the stadiums. Not my idea of a good time, but then I support boxing and UFC - of course with it being legalised and monitored it allows for less insane injuries and accidents. Perhaps legalising it would make it better in some respects. Stopping them from meeting would probably cause more drama.. Eitherway I'll stick to climbing and skateboarding lol.

@cabraonropes5622 9 ай бұрын

Legia warszaw Poland hooligans fight in KSW Poland top ufc promotion and do very well plus would you rather innocent fans get battered or people who want to fight to get battered

@hellosissi9482 7 ай бұрын

@@cabraonropes5622 how about nobody gets battered, as a doctor i don't want to focus on people who willingly hurt themselves instead of actual sick people