And in the movie, not in the books I think, Galadriel says that the quest will claim his life.

Didn't Sam joined Frodo later on after the passing of his wife? I thought I heard it from somewhere.

​@@mikef2811 yes she will die later on and Sam will be old and then travel to the undying land and join Frodo again

@@mikef2811 Yes, and then a bit later Legolas and Gimli - as the only dwarf ever - joined them as well.

I may be mistaken, but I think it also explained as a spiritual sort of wound as well, that is everlasting for people exposed to the ring like that. They become no longer wholly of the physical world, a piece of them is always in the world of the unseen. Something like that, this may even just be my own head canon.

I absolutely agree. One of the very strong suit of this monument of a movie is the acting and acting direction. Why was Ian McKellen not awarded the academy for best actor? I still wonder....His telluric performance remains unequalled. We could say the same for Sean Astin and for the magnetic rendition of Aragorn by Viggo Mortensen. Breathtaking acting throughout the trilogy.

Sean Astin really should have been nominated and won for playing Sam. One of the all time biggest snubs for me.

Well except for the guy that played Tom Bombadil and that guy that played Glorfindel whose parts had to be cut because they didn't live up to the standards.

@@tigqc in fact they got one. All together. Surprised by PJ HIMSELF and others in the event management! Even brought up the best friends of Tolkien who were the artists who he approved of for his books and so forth. They all got to the stage. And in the behind the scenes documentary movie literally lined them up on the hotel room table, taking pictures of them etc and had a party.

Andy Serkis deserved an Oscar as well

That's so bittersweet. Oh my goodness.

Man, I thought he reactions were great, but this was tear jerking and I've seen this movie so many times. 😢😢😢 Samwise the brave

Amazing lady. What a great story.

It was always Sam's story. A swift sunrise.

I hope people would be more like Frodo. It's "easy" to fight for the ones you love, that's essentially what Sam did, but to volunteer on truly hard mission, continue it even after you have lost everything and know you are going to die, and still have mercy on Smeagol even after all he had done, now that's what we need more. I don't want to make Sam any less of a hero that he was. Though I think his heroism is so easily recognized because people would like to have Sam in their life. Frodo's heroism is the of the opposite.

Imagine that... Having the greatest living king in the world, a man whose lineage goes back thousands of years, who is, quite literally, superhuman, bow to you for your services. There can be no greater honor.

Me too! That's my favorite line in the series!

@@CristiNeagu not only that, it’s on the day of his coronation. Not only that, it’s one of the first things he does as king besides kiss his queen to be that he hadn’t seen in ages.

he saw her a couple weeks before this@@guccimain89

Every. Single. Time. 😢

Also, in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, there's [spoilers ahead] ... ... ... ... an almost identical moment at the end of the film with both Indiana and the German woman hanging off a cliff and reaching for the Holy Grail, and having to choose to let it go.

And the ring doesn't melt until Frodo makes the decision to let go and take Sam's hand. His look right before he makes the decision is him thinking that he can still save the ring, there's still a chance.....

And the parallel between Isildur cutting Sauron's finger off, and getting the ring at the beginning, and Gollum biting Frodo's finger off to get the ring at the end.

I noticed that this time for the first time as well.

ugh, I didn't even think about this 🥺

When Eomer finds Eowyn on the battlefield, seemingly dead from the effect of the black breath, the touch of the Witch-King incident to her assault on that undead monster, and from her injury, he gives way to grief and horror in the way that he had predicted that Merry would react if exposed to the savage cruelty of battle.

@@jonrolfson1686 and in the book that is only partway through the battle, not at the end. At the beginning of the battle the Rohirrim are singing. After seeing Eowyn and thinking her dead is when they cry out "death".

@@samswords9993 That's also after Theoden is dying, and passes the kingship of Rohan to Eomer, in the book. He is somber and accepts the responsibility from his uncle as he dies...but then seeing his sister, who he thinks is dead, drives him into a rage of utter destruction, and yes, rides off with his knights to bring more death to the forces of Mordor.

@@rikk319 Yes, and Theoden dies never knowing that Eowyn is near him.

​@@jonrolfson1686He doesn't "give way" you fuck. He grieves more bitterly than a lesser man would be capable of. Part of the courage of battle is that you fight to protect people back home. She was the person for him who was supposed to be safe.

no one* sorry :D love that scene too

It came out December 2003 so you did not see it in 2002.

47 here and the onion ninjas just invaded my house again.

Came here to say the same thing! Out of every scene in the entire trilogy that line gets me every time!!!

Seriously every single time.!!!

Well, all ring bearers except for Gollum and Isildur, I suppose!

All the living ring bearers that is. Except for Tom Bombadill

@@enderjed Tom isn't a ringbearer- although he touched it (which is what I presume you mean), he is an avatar of older magic that the ring has no effect on. To Tom, it's just a worthless piece of metal.

@@cerisambrook7692 he's impervious to its effects because of his nature, but for me anyone who touches the thing is a ring bearer. Sam didn't put it on, but he held it

@@enderjed Did Sam ever actually touch it? He always held it by the chain, didn't he? Boromir also held it by the chain up in the mountains.

No character willingly gave up the ring. Bilbo just let it drop from his hand, Frodo grabbed it from Sam in the tower, and Gullom bit it from Frodos hand, he didn't even let ig go when he was swallowed by the lava. The ring is truly powerful

@@prohiadam9 Tom Bombadil (book only) and Gandalf, both hold the ring and then hand it back to Frodo. In the movie, Gandalf doesn't actually physically touch the ring, but holds it with the fire tongs. But in the book he clearly holds it in his hand, before handing it back. Bombadil even slips it onto the end of his finger, with no effect whatsoever.

@@Murdo2112 yes you are right, i meant in the movie and with bare hands

His strength but I think even more significantly other traits such as the goodness of his heart that made it more difficult for the ring to seduce him.

Notably in the books there is no squabble between Frodo and Sméagol. He wrests the ring from Frodo and while celebrating slips over the edge, I like this because it plays into Tolkien’s theme. While it was so evil that nobody in Middle Earth would have been able to destroy it, evil will always destroy itself, and so it was with the ring

I agree with you! Too many reactors feel the need to insert themselves into the story, rather than let the story take them along and just mention to us how they are impacted.

Agreed

ahhh I appreciate it so much! I know I am a little new to the reaction world but I genuinely want to say thank you for being so kind. I'm so happy you enjoyed

@@stefsolari Sliced onions just out of camera. Im on to you...

@@seregrian5675 For real ! Thats the perfect react channel omg

I appreciate it! I can't believe I don't hear about this movie more often. No film comes close to this one in my honest opinion; it was incredible

@@stefsolari How do you feel about this trilogy 9 months later? I actually looked for a sort of “review” video from you after you had time to process everything. Cuz emotionally it’s A LOT of a lot lol

Indeed Only after the task is done, does Sam grieve for what could have been

You see a part of this when the 4 Hobbits are sitting in the inn drinking. They look around and realize they are no longer a part of the life they used to have and that none of their friends would ever understand what had happened to them.

Tolkien hated allegory. On record, he said that. Whether or not he was influenced by his experiences in WW1 was inconsequential (personally, to him, on record, probably even on video on KZfaq, literally stated by the guy) toward his legendarium. Please don't take this as some sort of internet weirdo attack, but also please stop propagating this very very cold take. A snippet: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r5uFjZuGxsmuZYU.html

​​@@LyleAllbritton when Tolkein stated he hated allegory he was responding to a letter wherein someone asked him if lord of the rings was meant to be a metaphor for world war 2, he didn't necessarily mean that there aren't any parallels or influences he took from real life history and experience, yes its false to say Frodo's ptsd like symptoms were specifically a metaphor for ww1 ptsd, however i dont think its an entirely invalid interpretation as ww1 and the lost generation of which he was a member of likely did influence Frodo's story, Sam and Frodo's relationship directly mirrors many relationships during ww1 of an officer and his assistant of which Tolkein would have been a part of, so what im saying is you're correct that implying Tolkein wanted it to be read as ONLY a ptsd metaphor is wrong, but its also not wrong to believe it is a metaphor for that, i imagine however, Tolkein wanted it to be an allegory for multiple things at the same time, ptsd, addiction, trauma, general life changing experiences, and at the same time a metaphor for none of these at all, there really isn't a wrong way to see it and i think thats part of what makes it so relatable and what made Tolkein such a great writer

@@LyleAllbritton A lot of people like to cite Tolkien saying he disliked allegory as a reason why nothing in LOTR could represent something. Whether Tolkien intended it or not, it is clear that parts of the story were directly influenced by his war experiences. People don't have to admit to something out loud for it to be true.

@@joshuawiedenbeck6944 think about "application" instead of "allegory" and what those words mean.

So does "I can't carry it for you... but I can carry you!". Every time.

100th*

Gets me every time and so does “Men of the west”!

That moment gets you, but I do also find it very funny the way the whole crowd internally reacts like "Oh whoa - the king is bowing to them!? Get down! GET DOWN!"

Only exstreme nerds will get a tear in the eye by that..........

Agreed! Just by watching it once, I can tell there are certain lessons I've missed already and even then i've learned so much. Easily became my favorite movie!

I have a great appreciation for Tolkiens work. He's probably one of the greatest writers in the English language. And possibly well beyond that.

@@stefsolari its so good to see that ☺

Echiiro Oda's "One Piece." Don't let the 1000+ chapters/episodes worry you. It's a true Epic on par with Lord of the Rings. It's a fun pirate tale, or a deep as heck pirate tale.

Well the extended edition of this film butchers it. The theartical cut was a better representation.

I personally think it’s the best trilogy ever made.

​@@mesalgearsolid I know opinions can't be wrong, but somehow yours is.

In the places where it deviates, I feel like Peter Jackson's version just makes for a better movie and a better story. I prefer his vision to Tolkien's, to be honest.

this^

would you then say that Sauron the Deceiver was... deceived lol

@@sanfander Precisely, i know it sounds funny, but i think that is exactly what Tolkien would have wanted to express with this, that in the end, evil, is going to get beaten, no matter how hard it try, no matter how clever or powerful it is, by itself ,because, in this case for example, Sauron the deciever, getting decieved, it is something that Sauron, with all of his hubris would not have considered even remotely to be possible. Same thing as Gollum and Frodo actually destroying the ring...not because they want to destroy it, but because they want the ring for themselves.

beautifully said

*The Eight, but yes.

Both Aragorn's and Theodin's rallying speeches make my hair stand up, lol.

@@marthapackard8649 THEY WERE BOTH WARRIORS ESPECIALLY THEODEN CUZ HE HAD NO PLOT ARMOUR

What I always wondered is how the spider pierced the Mithril

@@BuBbLeBaThJaKe Asking the right questions here :D

​@@BuBbLeBaThJaKeshelob wasnt merely a spider. She was ancient creature. She was descendant of a primordial power that took form of a spider and likely more powerful than Sauron. So she is basically half demon

@@BuBbLeBaThJaKe Perhaps she simply stabbed Frodo below the mithril shirt?

@@effieknows the sting scar can be seen on his chest in the next scene where he's naked, so probably no.

Was looking for this comment before I posted it myself lol.

Jeez, if you are right. That just must amazing then before😢

This makes that scene even better

@@ethernousnatsudragneel1541 Smeagol is a victim more than a villain. His mind has been controlled by One ring's power. It makes a lot of sense trying bring him back.

@@sollomom yeah that's right

Did the entire audience shout "DDEEEAAATTTHHHH!!!"?

@@robmartin525 everyone there was a fan from when the O.G. trilogy came out so any cheering or acting along was all done in pantomime 😅👍

It is a very important scene, not everyone understands the significance. It is linked to Frodo´s leaving of Middle Earth. The shire is saved, but not for him. He returned to the Shire, but it is not home anymore, because the trauma changed him.

Thank you for your service.

Though actually the “Doom of man” (which I’m pretty sure includes hobbits) is hidden from Gandalf and all the other Maiar and Valar except for Mandos and Manwe. He should not know the truth of it.

Illuvatar's gift. Elves and all the Ainur get it too, but not until Arda is destroyed in Dagor Dagorath. @@Big_Tex

There was more than one hero in LOTR, that was Tolkien said.

"My heart tells me that Gollum still has a part to play in this for good or evil." -Gandalf

Tolkien never said that Sam is the ultimate hero

@@veiregormany fans including Peter Jackson, Fran Walsh and Phillipa Boyens have mentioned it often when asked however, you have a right to your opinion

Tolkien didn't say that Sam was the ultimate hero

The Lord of the Rings is a tale of a constant failing. Frodo's expedition is a failure. He almost did not even manage to throw the ring and Sauron got defeated just for a pure kick of luck of Smeagol falling by himself into the pit. Aragorn almost destroyed entirely his Grey Company leading to death almost all the Dunedain remaining (in the books that is explained very well). Smeagol fell under the burden of his own evil. The story has not a good end and it is not meant to have. But still it leaves us with peace and goodness. Still it looks like a very good ending story while it's not. That is in fact the fascination of life. We are in it, nonetheless. All with our burdens, all with our banes, our maleidctions, our monsters. With our failing fellowship of outcast friends. But still we stand. And that is encouraging, isn't it? All we still stay here even everything we went through. Lords of the Rings is the story of our life, and the realization that we all can fight against our banes is sufficient to think that our life is a good-ending story, after all

Nah, I bet an elf would have thrown it into the fire. And there is no such thing as pure evil? So you think Nazis were just misunderstood? 🤔

@@Cliffster420 You must be young. If you think that every german in Nazigermany was evil. I re-HEALLY don't want to start such a deep philosophical debate in the youtube comments, because it is more complex than I can make it justice, but I just want to say: Even Hitler was once an innocent baby. But then things happened. And so was every Nazi general. Every Nazi soldier. Was Frodo evil because he wanted the ring for himself? Do you relaly think that? And no. The elves were not immune to it either. (Did you listen to what galadriel said? "EVERYONE SHALL LOVE ME AND DISPAIR!!!") Sure, they were wiser than men or dwarves, because they were created less emotional and were much much older... (its like toddlers and elders.. .of couse the elder can see that the van with 'fReE CanDy' on it is a trap...) so they knew not to use their rings until sauron was defeated. I really hope you can take something from this. There is no such thing as pure evil. Most people are either misunderstood or corrupted. Even Grima Wormtongue shed a tear when he realized what he had done. That is one of the biggest lessons in Tolkiens works.You need to stand up for what is right. But do not hate those that got corrupted, as they were once just like you. Even the orcs were once just elves. If that doesnt tell you something about corruption... I don't know what will.

Yes but it is also amusing to watch Pippin's expression, like "oh finally what I deserve" 😅

Same😊

Basically Gandalf's friend the moth came and brought the eagles to Gandalf's aid again - but this time on its own.

She did..... but it's a pot of detail 😊

And BTW Eagles embody Manwe's power (or even Eru's) and they are here just to rebalance the fight between the Evil Maiar (Sauron) and Men. Notice that Gandalf as a servant of the Eternal Fire uses power versy sparingly. Eagles help saving him, staving off Nazgul (evil spirits) and rescuing people.

Tolkien didn't think so. In one of his letters he remarked how that little spark of humanity could have been rekindled, if it wasn't for Sam's harsh treatment. The passage when this happens it's really tragic. "so Gollum found them hours later, when he returned ... Sam sat propped against the stone, his head dropping sideways and his breathing heavy. In his lap lay Frodo's head, drowned deep in sleep... Peace was in both their faces. Gollum looked at them. A strange expression passed over his lean hungry face. The gleam faded from his eyes, and they went dim and grey, old and tired. A spasm of pain seemed to twist him, and he turned away, peering back up towards the pass, shaking his head, as if engaged in some interior debate. Then he came back, and slowly putting out a trembling hand, very cautiously he touched Frodo's knee - but almost the touch was a caress. For a fleeting moment, could one of the sleepers have seen him, they would have thought that they beheld an old weary hobbit, shrunken by the years that had carried him far beyond his time, beyond friends and kin, and the fields and streams of youth, an old starved pitiable thing. But at that touch Frodo stirred and cried out softly in his sleep, and immediately Sam was wide awake. The first thing he saw was Gollum - `pawing at master,' as he thought. `Hey you!' he said roughly. `What are you up to?' 'Nothing, nothing,' said Gollum softly. `Nice Master!' `I daresay,' said Sam. 'But where have you been to - sneaking off and sneaking back, you old villain? ' Gollum withdrew himself, and a green glint flickered under his heavy lids. Almost spider-like he looked now, crouched back on his bent limbs, with his protruding eyes. The fleeting moment had passed, beyond recall."

@@Laurelin70 I remember that passage, but it doesn't necessarily support what you assert about Tolkien's position on Gollum. That scene still works with my interpretation that Sméagol was able to temporarily forget about his pain, through serving another master (Frodo) instead of the ring. I mean, if all it takes is for a few harsh words from Sam to turn him "back" to evil, can it be said that he is rehabilitated in any meaningful way? No, I think the more reasonable interpretation is that he is only temporarily distracted from his need for the ring, and that his true nature is villainous and nothing more.

@@RoryMitchell00 No, it demostrates that his "true nature" is NOT ONLY villainous. That, with time and patience, he could be saved. That often, all it's needed for someone to be saved, is a good word or a kind attitude from other people. What Tolkien kept telling us in all the book is that NO ONE is totally evil or totally good. Maybe just Sauron, and maybe the orks (and about the latters he later had a LOT of problems to reconcile their treatment in the LOTR with what seemed the presence of a "soul" of sort, and then the possibility to be redeemed). There's no such thing as "the true nature" of anyone, in the LOTR. Tolkien himself, in his letters talked about this: "At any point any prudent person would have told Frodo that Gollum would certainly* (*Not quite 'certainly'. The clumsiness in fidelity of Sam was what finally pushed Gollum over the brink, when about to repent) betray him." , "For me perhaps the most tragic moment in the Tale comes in II 323 ff. when Sam fails to note the complete change in Gollum's tone and aspect... His repentance is blighted and all Frodo's pity is (in a sense ) wasted. Shelob's lair became inevitable.", "If he had [repented], what could then have happened? The course of the entry into Mordor and the struggle to reach Mount Doom would have been different, and so would the ending. The interest would have shifted to Gollum, I think, and the battle that would have gone on between his repentance and his new love on one side and the Ring. Though the love would have been strengthened daily it could not have wrested the mastery from the Ring. I think that in some queer twisted and pitiable way Gollum would have tried (not maybe with conscious design) to satisfy both. Certainly at some point not long before the end he would have stolen the Ring or taken it by violence (as he does in the actual Tale). But ‘possession' satisfied, I think he would then have sacrificed himself for Frodo's sake and have voluntarily cast himself into the fiery abyss."

​@@Laurelin70I agree! 👍 The perspective that everybody is redeemable and can be "saved" also fits the Christian world view of Tolkien. As you point out Tolkien himself was conflicted with the role of the Orcs. Also note that the valar even gave Sauron another chance at the end of the first age, hence considered him to be redeemable...

Nice intent but i doubt it was JRT idea. The ring is like Sin a bane for all mortals (and even elves in that case). The only one in Middle Earth that could resist the Ring would be Tom Bombadil ! 😉

It was not Rivendell tho? Wasn't it still Minas Tirith? Why would they travel back and forth for the coronation, especially Aragorn?