you didnt play conan did you? "took what they had from conan and refined" does not sound good to us, veteran conan players.. oh boy cant wait for the rants :D

I think I figured out what prior game Marvel Rivals reminds me of. It's the over-the-shoulder MOBA "Knights of the Elder Orb" / "Fault: Elder Orb", featured in the college esports movie "1UP". Hopefully the issues which hurt other recent Marvel games are not present for this new one, and it finds its audience and keeps it.

I signed up for the Marvel Rivals beta. Good video but your mic has filthy coom stains on it.

@@davidgoldstein729It's just Overwatch dude. No need to over complicate it.

@@MrAgmoore that's like seeing Fortnite and saying "it's just Apex Legends" or "it's just PUBG".

Facts

Bars

It's like a bad trip to Vegas

MMOs: the dead genre nobody likes that every other game wants to pretend to be for some reason.

cap

You must be a virgin

Conan Exiles. just look at that. this is a reskinned/engined Conan. Which is actually a very good thing. Conan' MTX is good and bad. Battle Pass is free if you complete it and doesn't require daily interaction. traditional DLC's are pretty cheap and comprehensive. Store is complete FOMO because its a revolving stock and has very high prices. all the things you buy are pretty nice though and there is a ton of it. It's amazing, because, there is also lot of stuff in the base game. you don't need any of the DLC though. the game is extremely complete without any of that and none of the DLC includes any actual gaming content. all you can buy for the game are base building assets and cosmetics. Conan is also a "hosted" game. You can host a single player game or a multiplayer game, both for free, or rent a private server, or play on official servers provided by Funcom. Everything outside of official servers is fully adjustable (full server and admin access). this means you can play however you want. you make the rules, you set the XP rates and a million other things. Creative mode, full cheat menus...anything you want. No content is hidden behind any grind or anything. full on sandbox. full on creative modes.

It will cater to whales don’t worry

your tripping bc no hud? it deadass shows gameplay so often.

go look at conan's

Or land and plant a thumper to distract the worm and give your carryall more time to get picked up. I just invented the metagame of this game. Now they have to nerf thumpers. But, what if the harvester turns off its engines and stays quiet? This is the way.

yep, reskinned conan exiles. Their idea of MMO is 16 people playing together.

I already know I'm not giving them money. My question is, and surely it's almost rhetorical: will this be just conan exiles but improved graphics and different system, maybe some tweaks that they never implemented to that shit show? Probably. And it will still have loads of issues despite having some good features and fancy graphics. F Funcom.

Seeing people's comments, you wouldn't imagine that Conan Exiles has an 80% positive rating in Steam

It's barely got any players left, the only ones still playing are the ones that actually enjoy it or the ones that don't wanna leave their money pick up dust in their Steam libraries..@@Augusto9588

@@Augusto9588 That is very fair to say. Clearly they are doing something right. I do think it's a more nuanced subject to get into; steam ratings, "recommended", game flaws that cause frustration vs the fun that can be had. How many of those ratings are a once sentence up or down vote because they had fun or otherwise for 2 hours? I'm biased against funcom so I'm not the right person for the topic, but it's surely not as simple as "good rating - good game". I would recommend CE to some people with warnings, but in general, not really.

A lot harder to sell cosmetic DLC for years for a single-player game.

I disagree. The spice aspect and the fact you can setup individual markets even as a Pve player, you could be a spice runner and never get heavily involved in PvP. Or create factions around trade guilds. Honestly the player market will make this game.

Single player games sucks. No emergent gameplay, everything is prescripted, you are just replaying alone what is designed by devs, that's boring. I'd rather see a movie.

​@hegemon3 you ever heard of meta gameplay? They are almost universal in multiplayer games

​​@@SkiLLAGEx94Metaplaying and minmaxing is fun for many

This is a great point. While the movies did a great job of telling a very focused story, I think the game has a lot of potential to bring in some of the larger lore in the universe.

I hope so as well, I am a bit optimistic due to Conan Exiles treatment of the Conan lore.

They already said they were steering away from Dune's political and religious themes so yes, its just a cheap reskin clinging on to Dune's name

shut up. go play Conan and then say that. all my brother talks about is how much of the Conan books and movies are in the game. so much so, I had to watch the movies to see all the details for myself. He was right. I've never played a game, not even LOTRO, that honored the original vison of the writers world building and lore like Conan does. It runs deep in Conan. don't talk out your ass...@@Skullbushi

@@Skullbushi They havent lmao.. The said theyre doing an alternate timeline for main story and stuff, the lore will still be very much Dune. For the religious and political themes you are wrong, the game will be VERY political and thatll be a main focus for people in the later stages of the game. And for religion, its still apart of the world, just not a focus for the player since I dont believe the player is religious. Maybe read the articles and not just their headlines

I think a single player rpg would’ve been better for dune

It sounds like a single player MMO ATM@@TheTTony444

Its promo so don’t fall for it being any solid concept

yeah, seems more like an mmolite, or even just a multiplayer online game than a real mmo

I wouldn't even call Wow, a classic style mmo anymore. The server "sharding" makes it so that you are basically encountering 1 or 2 people in the world, and then the cities just act as hubs where the game pulls everybody into.

Loved that game!

You couldn't build on sand in that game, I wonder if the same thing will apply here.

@@australienski6687 if you can you better not do it, or it won't last long. So yeah, you'll have to build on the rocks.

@@averno9 Also you could kill sand worms in Dune 2, but in this game you can't. Sand worms seem a bit OP if you can't kill them.

@australienski6687 i do think there is atleast 2 varients in the game. Ones thst are smaller and only really a threat to small groups. Then the big fuckefs that you cant kill. I might be wrong tho. Just seems like something i saw somewhere.

That's a really valid point. Hopefully you can do something like hire an AI employee to manage the harvester or something similar.

Well you know there's genres for a reason aye! Not every damn game has to be solo and not every game has to be multi-player either. However games were meant to enjoy with other's

@@6Alucard6Tepes6 Firstly, slow down turbo, I never said I play Solo. I simply said that it will be difficult for people TO solo - and that this system incentivizes people NOT TO. Furthermore; games are meant to be enjoyed however tf you want to enjoy them and if Solo players didn't exist they wouldn't even make MMO's anymore because a vast majority of MMO players, are solo players. That's a fact.

@@ericm5315 I'm sure they'll work something out. If they don't have automated AI hirelings or something, there will be probably be a quick LFG thing that links you up with players for the express purpose.

@@Sabamonster not what I'm saying either however the fact is games we're invented to enjoy with others the very first game was tennis for two! Which you guessed it two player game! All arcade games is meant to enjoy with others even if it were solo how did that work well that's why there's a score board to compete against other players scores!

They should market it as the first true sandbox MMO.

As long as the other toddlers aren't leaving ... Logs... In the sandbox 😭

Oh boy people don't know what a sandbox is lol well if it's the entire planet of arrakis then it's not a sandbox however if it's only strict parts of arrakis then yes that would be a sandbox! That's like saying no man's sky is a sandbox.

Sand sphere. ​@@6Alucard6Tepes6

IT'S NOT AN MMO

You mean 'can' 😂

@@TTomeRR223 Yes, you're right. I'll change that. Thank you for pointing out my typo.

Wouldn't say this is overhyped at all or an overhyper survival game lmao.

Willing to give them the benifit of the doubt given how well supported Conan exiles is.

Steam reviews only! Preorders are for dummies. Wait and see what happens.

I wouldn't say it's overhyped. Most people are pretty skeptical

Well then you should love this game there is barely any hype, it’s almost entirely people going “I’ll believe it when I see it”

Probably because it's not really an MMO

@@kevadu What do you mean?

@brando3342 Did you watch the video? Force explains why.

@@eysaak6157 I heard him explain why they say it’s an MMO. I’m guessing you don’t agree with the developer? That was why I asked why.

Don't be fooled none of it is actual in game footage

the SPICE MUST FLOW

I have read all 8 books, not sure where this game fits in the universe. Other than being on Arrakis and having sandworms this doesn't feel like Dune.

@@Cannon1221 it doesnt really have any dicrect connection to the source material, its basically a video game with the aesthetics of the films is how i think about it, and i really like those aesthetics. personally i like that theyre focusing on making the game enjoyable before focusing on making the game adhere to lore restrictions

It's smoke and mirrors for sure

@@TheMasterwitcher You could be right - conversely, at the very least they've shown people 'actual' gameplay and the people who have seen it, all agree that it looked well optimized and they liked what systems they saw. Most of the time with cash-grabs, the developers rarely (if ever) take the time to optimize things. They know they're just going to release and take the money. Doesn't matter if the game tanks because they'll make the money off the initial sales so it's not worth spending time making it run correctly. At least historically that seems to be the case. I'm cautiously optimistic. Having said that - the moment there are red flags, expensive ass pre-orders, focus on MTX etc, I'm fuckin outty-5000. Lol

@@Sabamonster that last bit made me howl xD fucking outty-5000 xDD

@@Sabamonster Historically, Funcom does all that and more. Battle passes and MTX. The gameplay looks much better in a solo environment because online in Conan Exiles you wouldn't go 5 minutes without several instances of rubber banding and lost input. I'm on fiber optic internet and it still felt worse than Ark Survival Evolved as far as server response.

Tracing was fun as a toddler

As long as the grind for resources isn't so harsh that we need to break 1000 rocks with a stupid pattern. Then it might get annoying.

Warframe had something like this and it gets kinda old fast, like short bursts its nice but if you are on grind mode. Meh.

I just hope there will be accessibility options to disable that. My hands are quite shaky due to disability so I can't do a lot of precision movement, not even with a mouse.

Would be difficult for bots too

The most skeptical thing for me is the server performance. Because I love CE, but the server performance is the bane of it's limelight. That being said, I only recently learned that CE was supposed to be a single player game that got converted after the fact. I still don't think that's no excuse to not actually create a proper server software, but at least it's understandable.

​@ItsKatsuragi the only thing that's skeptical for me is that is sand walking I just wanna sandwalk and get addicted to spice but I found out it might not be in the game because its not fun (they could of made it optional or a skill where u have to practice not attracting worms then practicein worm territoriesand keep practicing until ur good )

These isn’t Dune the RTS games and Dune 1984 that is Dune

A flawed but unique MMO. I had a lot of fun with it when it first came out.

New Quest: collect 10 liters of guzzoline

Build your own car and weapons. Sewn your own clothes. Raid and trade. I am sold.

Oh man, Lord Humungus would rule all!

I started on somthing like that using arks survival stuff, but yeah, build cars, collect materials, create a fleet, tame wild boys. But I scrapped it bc of money and I didn't think it would do that good.

@@LochMessNomster future game developers, please start making survival games where i can start out as a badass. i don't want to thave to punch trees for an hour when I start playing a game for the first time.

"MEEEHEHEE THEY DID SOMETHING BAD SO EVERYTHING THEY DO NOW IS BAAADD MEEIEIELWEJEIEJE"

​@@OnlyLocus or we follow the laws of they do this shit all the time so expect it everytime. Now you can cry 😅

@ethaneshelman321 metal hellsinger was a great game and I enjoyed conan, whats wrong with extra content for a price, when has that ever been a foreign idea? everybody bought dlcs for games when they released lmao, just mad coz one thing, and blow it up like it's the end of the world lol

@@OnlyLocus COPIUM at its finest.

@@ethaneshelman321 do you just find any chance to use the word copium? seems like it. you must be poor.

Are you that dense to think this is AO2?

@@Joshua-ix4bh no you’re dense.

New World can survive with just buy to play model, without subs

@@sendoh7x New World is barely surviving though lol

@@cosm0850 yeah but it got nothing to do with its monetization, probably

@@sendoh7x A sub definitely allows the devs to create more content. New world has a bit of content for every big expansion they sell.

Lol no dev would ever give a 1 year sub with purchase. Maybe 1 month free

Which is exactly why this is being announced. To prey upon your lingering hype. Funcom are not to be trusted, wait for release and review. You won't regret it.

He also doesn't like to spend a lot of time with a single game, which is understandable as his job here is to cover a lot of games, but I think it also makes him separate to regular players, who DO want to get immersed in games and spend a lot of time in those worlds.

It's because they are cheaper and easier to make and they can just pump em out..

You need to play their last game Conan exiles!

yeah, that's more of an arpg thing, and it still irks me in games like PoE, D4, Last Epoch, etc.

That's necessary to have any potential balance and it also allows many more powerful skills to coexist. I'd rather be able to use a few really impactful skills than have a million skills that are all just meh and managing all of them is just tedium. It also allows for more builds to exist and more potential to have choices to make (as long as the system is not too limiting).

Too many skills and you end up with one of the many Rust but 10x more complicated knockoff survival games. There's a balance to strike and I really hope this game hits it.@@piktasniekas8124

A fellow Helldiver!

Would need to increase the material yield to balance it out

Where my head at everytime a new game is teased nowadays 😂

It's Funcom, they've earned their sh*tty reputation multiple times over. Wait for release and review before investing as the initial asking price is FAR from what they expect you to pay to enjoy their game.

Lmao yall keep circlejerking this like fast travel isn't available without the dlc.

@@lazerrhinofr lmao

@@lazerrhinoBut we can’t deny the fact that there literally is fast travel for sale In 2024

​@damianramirez5292 it's not though. It's only giving you a fast travel location, but the game gives it to you also. It's just for lazy people who want that item from thr beginning of the game, which is stupid because you don't have the fast travel consumable until later. And that consumable is only earned in-game.

Oh course. Everyone knows built in fast travel is for boring games. Exciting games only have fast travel as a DLC!

Its massive, not mass, no?

@@SETHthegodofchaos Massive * you are correct.