Ford 2nd Gen 3.5L EcoBoost Common Failures Every Owner Needs to Know About!

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14 күн бұрын

In this video we show you everything I look for when going in for a timing job on the 2nd gen Ford 3.5L EcoBoost engine. You must inspect these items very closely as they are all too common.
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@502Chevy
@502Chevy 12 күн бұрын
My God, with all the timing chain / phaser / cooling system failures I’m wondering if Ford has hired engineers from BMW / VW / Audi.
@kenj.8897
@kenj.8897 12 күн бұрын
Nope Ford can design junk all by themselves
@robm3357
@robm3357 12 күн бұрын
I herd most of Fords engineering is from Germany so that has to tell you something right there
@TheOldMachines
@TheOldMachines 12 күн бұрын
Definitely not…..all my Audis have had 250k on them with original timing components!!
@poppacapinya
@poppacapinya 12 күн бұрын
india ,you have people designing parts that have 1 light bulb in their scrap metal huts
@leea.3772
@leea.3772 12 күн бұрын
@@TheOldMachinesI can say the same about fords. If you think Audi is better than ford, you may want to google all the issues with Audi.
@fZionists78
@fZionists78 12 күн бұрын
This, ladies and gentlemen, is a professional.
@CoachJay7212
@CoachJay7212 5 күн бұрын
No. He’s a parts slinger that is wildly over repairing the vehicle. 25 year senior master and I’ve never seen anything but phasers and water pumps fail on these.
@teresapearson3970
@teresapearson3970 4 күн бұрын
​@@CoachJay7212No you are not correct. I have a F-150 and if you don't change the phasers it affects the timing chain and parts start to break off and flow through the system until you need a new engine! Technically has left you behind Sir!
@miketeeveedub5779
@miketeeveedub5779 13 күн бұрын
50K between factory phaser failures and $6K in replacement parts to make things right. Built Ford Tough...my a55! Ford can't even make a crimping hose clamp last more than a handful of years. What a FAIL! To those thinking I'm a just a internet troll Ford hater; nope. In addition to my Mk1 VW Jetta, I also own a 2005 Ford Five Hundred with AWD and a CVT, and a 2015 Ford Focus 5 door with the DCT. I'm obviously a glutton for punishment. Almost 20 year spread between models and Ford is obviously getting worse! It's up to us to let the manufacturers know this is unacceptable! One thing for sure; I wish I had access to a mechanic like Brian. He's a Unicorn among donkeys mechanics. Cheers and keep your great videos coming - they're greatly appreciated!
@jerrykorman7770
@jerrykorman7770 12 күн бұрын
I bought new a 2013 Ford Focus hatchback that had been flawless. The only reason why it has been reliable is because it has the rare 5 speed stick. A true unicorn.
@robs4517
@robs4517 12 күн бұрын
Um... everyone uses those cripms on the hoses. It is not Ford specific. It is an industry problem.
@tatertots-n-soup
@tatertots-n-soup 12 күн бұрын
It don5 matter what you say or think. Women are still goinng to buy them and men are going to buy them for their women
@1Cobranut
@1Cobranut 12 күн бұрын
@@jerrykorman7770 My daily beater is a 2004 Focus ZX3 with the 2.3 Duratec. It's never had a major failure. The only things replaced have been a couple halfshafts, a couple ignition coils, a cam cover gasket, and the A/C compressor. Even the clutch is original, and I don't baby it either. This is in over 340,000 miles and 10k mile oil changes. I can't complain, it's been the most durable and trouble-free car I've owned in my 60 years. 👍👍👍😎
@mph5896
@mph5896 12 күн бұрын
Brian is a terrific mechanic/shop. But also very expensive. That's what it takes to get things done. Unfortunately not many people have or are willing to spend the $ to have the work done like that. So you have mechanics piece peoples cars together, when they break again the mechanics are called hacks. 🙄
@mar1video
@mar1video 12 күн бұрын
Brian is the king of Ford engines ❗️
@davestewart9146
@davestewart9146 13 күн бұрын
The wonderful world of plastic and cheaply made components, I have a love hate with plastic, awesome video Brian 👍😁
@karlschauff7989
@karlschauff7989 8 күн бұрын
Yeah I hate that Ford loves to use plastic in all the worst places. Like the plastic on the exhaust heat exchanger on the Powerboost that leaks coolant all over the driveway.
@xplor1301
@xplor1301 2 сағат бұрын
​@karlschauff7989 Can you tell us more about this? Its location and any DIY fix?
@volks-jager
@volks-jager 13 күн бұрын
i used to run into those crappy crimpped hoses leaking on GMs all the time. especaily oil cooler lines. even if you put on new ones they would eventully leak again and some in pretty short time. so would just remove the aluminum crimp and put on t-bolt type hose clamps and they would never leak again
@michaeldunagan8268
@michaeldunagan8268 9 күн бұрын
Yah- -I too was kinda wondering why no effort was made just to change out the crimps....
@tdotw77
@tdotw77 7 күн бұрын
Yeah I'd put two hose clamps on them after removing the metal crimp. Or get the Oetiker clamps on them maybe even 2 for the cost of those hoses from FoMoCo. If the clamp is failing.... Fix the clamp right now replace entire hose set for no other reason. 👍🏻👌🏻🛠️🔧🤔
@BVInAZ
@BVInAZ 3 күн бұрын
Can confirm, had the phaser job done at 63k miles. 2k miles later my water pump failed and left me stranded in the middle of nowhere. I wish I watched this earlier!!!
@FORDTECH313
@FORDTECH313 12 күн бұрын
I can’t believe that other techs will question you and ask you. Why would you change the chains if you’re going that far into it? Why would you even keep the same chains on! Lord have mercy I’ve been watching you since I started and I’m always watching videos trying to learn as much as I can And ford definitely is not the only one that has problems. The owner of our shop owns different dealerships so the good thing about that is that we have to work on different makes and models and Ford is not the only one. love your videos dude I’ve learned so much from you and I really appreciate, you making these videos God bless you
@ozzstars_cars
@ozzstars_cars 13 күн бұрын
I haven't seen that many splits since I took a yoga class 4 years ago.
@luckyguy600
@luckyguy600 13 күн бұрын
Aaaa the ladies of the grassy parks in summer.
@sheepdog3828
@sheepdog3828 12 күн бұрын
OH...coffee spit...!!!
@ozzstars_cars
@ozzstars_cars 12 күн бұрын
@@sheepdog3828 😂😂😂
@ronhall3686
@ronhall3686 13 күн бұрын
One of your best videos and very helpful for ecoboost owners.
@williamchoza1227
@williamchoza1227 12 күн бұрын
I got an 2020 f150 2.7 ecoboost. No issues yet haha
@lazaryanya9407
@lazaryanya9407 12 күн бұрын
At 60K miles my timing chain needed replacement on my 2012 F150 XLT. That was 4 years ago and I spent 3 days on the driveway doing it myself. The timing chain is made of mild steel. I kid you not. Spent $3,000 for parts only. Dealer could not supply me the torque to yield bolts for the phasers. In fact the dealer said that they need them themselves. It took a lot of head scratching to come up with a method to reused torque to yield bolts. Basically you aim to torque them to what they were before you removed them. If you redo the torque to yield procedure you will break the bolts. Surprisingly that job was successful. Because there were so many opportunities for failure I was jumpy for the next year. Then the right turbo went and I replaced it. Not a fun job. Right valve cover cracked so that got JB welded. Front brake flex lines turned into one way valves and cooked my rotors and pads. My fuel economy was bad due to brakes partially applied all the time. Air conditioner pump is done. Transmission oil pan rusted through. I am only giving you some of the problems I had to deal with that F150. Conclusions; Ford has deliberately designed the F150 so that it can't be easily serviced by the home mechanic. Ford uses the cheapest parts possible to the point that it is criminal. Ford does not provide adequate information for the home mechanic. Ford makes more money off of servicing their vehicles than making them. Ford designs their vehicles to fall apart in about 10 years. Ford customers have had it. Ford might be going out of business.
@karlschauff7989
@karlschauff7989 8 күн бұрын
Part of the problem IMO is that they use junk Morse Silent Chains. A quality roller chain might be slightly more noisy but lasts longer.
@Steve.191
@Steve.191 12 күн бұрын
You Sir are a tech with great integrity good job. 👍
@jeffjames1743
@jeffjames1743 12 күн бұрын
Best Ford tech anywhere.
@mictdave1
@mictdave1 12 күн бұрын
I have a 2017 3.5l with 95k miles. Everything seems to be fine but these videos make me feel like I’m driving a time bomb. I want to trade it in for the potential that it might suffer catastrophic failure. The only thing is, it’s paid off. Do I want a new payment? Hell no! But I also don’t want to be paying 6-10k in repairs on a truck that could continue to fall apart.
@JimBronson
@JimBronson 12 күн бұрын
They are so much more expensive now overall. I would keep the 2017 and do the 6K job to keep it going, if you like the truck otherwise.
@Mytruck5600tailights
@Mytruck5600tailights 9 күн бұрын
For heavens sake....don't do that. Why would you pay $1500 a month when you could simply pay $6000 and go another 100,000 plus miles?!?
@charlieg8018
@charlieg8018 13 күн бұрын
Good info. All brands have their issues. Manufacturers are constantly looking for ways to make more profit. This is still way cheaper than buying a new truck!
@906lane
@906lane 13 күн бұрын
I agree with you. This is why I also had Brian do my truck and replace it all. It runs better than new and sounds like new.
@BrianFox
@BrianFox 5 күн бұрын
The problem here is their profit has become our added cost of ownership. IMHO that makes the value of what we are buying less. If Ford thinks a $6K bill every 70 thousand miles is okay?. Then For should reduce the price of the truck by 18K. I know I expect my truck to last more that 150K now a days . Even if I paid only 45K for the truck I'd still be mad at a $6,000.00 Bill every 70 K miles.... Not okay..
@Jacob1986
@Jacob1986 12 күн бұрын
All those coolant lines should be upgraded to a regular line without the crimp thing. Brian you are right to replace all this stuff to make the engine last longer and give a better result to the customer. That table with parts is amazing to see.
@user-du1mz5zx7s
@user-du1mz5zx7s 12 күн бұрын
What happened to the simple and effective steel clamps..
@qksilvr73
@qksilvr73 12 күн бұрын
​@@user-du1mz5zx7sfaster to install on the line is why. It's about cost saving for the manufacturer.
@JimBronson
@JimBronson 12 күн бұрын
Doman has heater hoses for the 5.4 that use these same kinds of lines, they are metal with crimp connectors. I have them on my 5.4, no issues, but I don't know if the same exists for the 3.5.
@lilredcrvtt
@lilredcrvtt 5 күн бұрын
Excellent tips in your video! My truck had the cam phasers replaced under warranty just before I bought it. It's a 2018 F150 and I bought in back in October of 2021. Checked my crimped hose fittings, they were all cracked. Going to replace them all and the de-gas bottle cap in the next few days. I've already done the water pump, and rad hoses. I couldn't find an OEM aluminum oil pan and had to replace only the plastic one. Eventually I'll get the aluminum oil pan upgrade. Thanks again for the excellent information in your videos! My truck has over 176,000 kilometers (approximately 110,000 miles) on it. Your videos are keeping my truck alive.
@jeffalvich9434
@jeffalvich9434 13 күн бұрын
I can't tell you how many people look at me like I'm "nuts" when I say, from a performance and drivability standpoint, the engineering is incredible........ from a maintenance/repair standpoint, the complexity and synthetic (plastic) materials used are just a nightmare waiting to happen....and when one thing "fails", there is no such thing as a "simple fix', you're looking at big $$$'s by comparison even just for the parts. have to take it to a shop..... now it's really going to be expensive. I understand Ford saving assembly time/money by going with crimp connectors on the water hoses BUT, from a repair standpoint, it makes no sense... unless they are really going with the "who cares about the customer after warranty" approach- which is probably the ground truth. Great job of the Vids Brian!
@mph5896
@mph5896 13 күн бұрын
Yup. I put a used engine in a 2016 Expedition 3-4 months ago due to a broken main timing chain. Worst engine replacement job I have ever done. If I had a 2 post and the space, I would have pulled the body off for that job. But had to work with what I have.
@greggc8088
@greggc8088 12 күн бұрын
@@mph5896 I've done it both ways and like pulling the body off the most because it's less stressful on the hands and back. Takes about the same time either way.
@tatertots-n-soup
@tatertots-n-soup 12 күн бұрын
Ford invented the "Dealer Trap" long before they put it into mass production in the late 80's leading the compitition in design by 5years of follow the leader. Until you have what the automotive market is today.
@tatertots-n-soup
@tatertots-n-soup 12 күн бұрын
Theyve been doing it that way since the 1986ish Areostar
@performancepass4945
@performancepass4945 12 күн бұрын
Couldn't be more glad to have a 2.7 EcoBoost after seeing all these 3.5 videos
@regalnut86
@regalnut86 12 күн бұрын
Same! And to think (not knowing better at that time) I was so close to walking away from the deal when I found out it was the 2.7 and not the 3.5 in my used 2017 F-150. Sure glad I decided to purchase it after all.
@engineer_alv
@engineer_alv 12 күн бұрын
Same, my 2.7 has 190K miles and it runs like new. The engine has only needed sparkplugs, a coolant hose and I'm going to replace the plastic oil pan since it has started leaking a drop every night
@performancepass4945
@performancepass4945 9 күн бұрын
@@engineer_alv mine also runs very good. I had to replace a purge valve for rough idle after fill ups which was a quick job. I'm probably gonna do a walnut blast on the intake valves next, my cold start idle is getting on the rougher side.
@engineer_alv
@engineer_alv 9 күн бұрын
@@performancepass4945 mine is the 2nd gen with DI + port injection so no rough idle.
@maykevin5
@maykevin5 12 күн бұрын
I think you just convinced me to not buy a Ford. You picked a great brand to be a mechanic in. You have excellent job security.
@jamesplotkin4674
@jamesplotkin4674 12 күн бұрын
Brian, you're the most thorough, honest tech out there. Too bad you're so far away, or I'd have you work on my cars. BTW, while you're already in there, as a customer, I'd appreciate it if you'd replace the serpentine belt, tensioner and idlers, too. Like you said, "one and done."
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 12 күн бұрын
All belts get replaced too, but the one idler and tensioner last a long long time.
@leighmarts8647
@leighmarts8647 12 күн бұрын
My 2019 f-150 made it to about 85k before it started to rattle. Did the timing job myself with all ford parts with the latest phasers. Did chains, tensioners, guides, crank sprocket, water pump, belts and components, thermostat. It’s a job for sure. Toughest thing was torquing that crank bolt. I think mine lasted longer due to start/stop being disabled.
@TheWilber09
@TheWilber09 13 күн бұрын
I'd change those pans out, from your video on it, it looks like a nice relaxing satisfying job at the end of it.
@GeneralPeterGriffin
@GeneralPeterGriffin 12 күн бұрын
I feel lucky to have a F150 with the Coyote engine, 225K miles, never had to open the timing cover, still runs strong.
@JimBronson
@JimBronson 12 күн бұрын
The molded plastic heater hoses exist on all Ford vehicles, I have had to replace mine on my 5.4 3V.
@jtjones4727
@jtjones4727 10 күн бұрын
They are good trucks. One of my customers has a 2014 with the 5.0L Coyote, and besides an oil pressure sending unit, and those plastic cooling lines, (and of course an APIM failure causing the touchscreen to quit working) it's never had any major failures. And it currently has 345k miles on it, and it still runs and drives great.
@index1489
@index1489 12 күн бұрын
Love to see a 2.7 video!
@brentkhack6404
@brentkhack6404 12 күн бұрын
I have a slow coolant leak on my 2017 3.5EB. Now I can look at all those hoses to see which ones are cracked. Great video.
@rippleforeskinxrp358
@rippleforeskinxrp358 Күн бұрын
Also check it's not leaking at one of the turbo fitting...take it from me...
@e.b.6766
@e.b.6766 13 күн бұрын
Took my 2016 Expedition to Brian back in October 2019, or 2020 (can’t remember). It suffered from the start up rattling he spoke of. Once he finished up his magic it was rattle free. Stayed that way until I got rid of it in February of this year. Had no issues with anything he did. It did suffer from other design flaws, but not from his work. If you haven’t visited his shop yet you’re wrong.
@906lane
@906lane 13 күн бұрын
So you spent all that money just to sell it on a loss. I just don't understand why do the work. Just could have sold the truck to car max which just sells it at auction.
@chrisforker7487
@chrisforker7487 13 күн бұрын
@@906lanethe guy drove it for four years after it was fixed. Hardly a waste, IMO.
@chrisstromberg6527
@chrisstromberg6527 12 күн бұрын
@@906laneMost of us don’t look at our vehicles as an investment to make money by selling them. We need reliability and dependability so that we can get to our jobs, not be stranded on the side of the road with a disabled vehicle. If you are one of the few that can flip a vehicle and make a few dollars, good on you, for many of us, it’s just not worth our time!
@e.b.6766
@e.b.6766 11 күн бұрын
@@chrisforker7487 Thank you.
@e.b.6766
@e.b.6766 11 күн бұрын
@@906lane Bro, if you do the math I drove it a few more years before getting rid of it. Took it in with approximately 185-190k miles. Had 237k miles when I sold it. Hardly a waste in my opinion. It pulled my wife’s car on my trailer from Huntsville, AL to Surprise, AZ. Pulled my rv from Jacksonville, FL to Huntsville, to Surprise. Not to mention all the other work/ pleasure miles in between. With all the towing going on was noticing oil catch can was filling up rather quickly. A lot of oil blow-by… The idea was to never sell. Wanted to keep it for the long haul. Last straw was my visit to Surprise Ford in Surprise, AZ (Yup, dropping dimes). Had an issue that kept blowing my taillight fuse. Admittedly, was running Anzo sequential LED’s; but, no change when stock lights reinstalled (stock assemblies installed for dealer visit). The dealer called to say it was ready for pickup. Naturally I ask what the problem was. It wasn’t explained on the paperwork clearly, nor could the service writer tell me. Turns out those knuckleheads just changed the fuse… with a higher amperage rating!!! WTF?!?! I could’ve done that… Oh, one more last straw. My truck was putting 395hp/ 603lbs-ft torque to the ground (modded and tuned)… the rear differential started not liking it so much. That’s the whole story… Does that make more sense to you?
@RandomTechWZ
@RandomTechWZ 4 күн бұрын
The best thing I did was buying the Premium Care ESP from Zeigler for my 2018 F150 when I started noticing issues with the trans. Ive had the ESP for about 9 months now and have had the trans rebuilt, sunroof replaced, phasers replaced (again and finally with the revised PN), oil pan gasket, and a turbo oil feed line replaced.
@briangonzalez4332
@briangonzalez4332 13 күн бұрын
Thats why i have kept my 10th gen F150. No matter what, i will keep fixing her until i am no more
@tc6580
@tc6580 12 күн бұрын
I really miss my 97 reg cab short bed 4.6 it was a super reliable truck.
@JimBronson
@JimBronson 12 күн бұрын
@@tc6580 I had a 2000 Supercab, very reliable also. Never did anything but oil and coolant changes.
@leethomas9198
@leethomas9198 11 күн бұрын
I just bought a 94 f150. Someone needs to b*tch slap Fords accountants for killing their flagship.
@Nick-bc2lm
@Nick-bc2lm 11 күн бұрын
I still have my 92 f-150. Easy to work on. Almost 400k on the engine. My '17 went in yesterday for the phaser job. Makes me want put on a trailer and drive the 16hr road trip to his shop to do this job. Oil pan was the big shocker when I did my first oil change. Was like.. really?
@briangonzalez4332
@briangonzalez4332 11 күн бұрын
My wife had a 96 with the two fuel tanks. These old Ford trucks are amazing. I'm always surprised at how many are still on the road and so few are ever found in a junk yard
@jeffreygoss8109
@jeffreygoss8109 12 күн бұрын
270k on my Toyota 5.7 with little more than oil, plugs and filters. But you won’t hear that about the new Toyotas 😢
@paulwicklund5044
@paulwicklund5044 11 күн бұрын
The new Toyota Tundra twin turbo V-6 is failing, was just recalled.
@lvsqcsl
@lvsqcsl 10 күн бұрын
Oh come on! So they had to do a stop-sale on the Tundra; so the people that have them can't trade them off; I think we need to cut them some slack.....NOT!
@jeffreygoss8109
@jeffreygoss8109 10 күн бұрын
@@lvsqcsl I agree. Especially when this looks like the US plant cut corners in the engine manufacturing. Looks like they didn’t fun brushes through the bare block and machining bits are eating up the main bearings. Why? To save a few bucks.
@michaeldunagan8268
@michaeldunagan8268 9 күн бұрын
This is why I keep my 1999 Toyota Solara 3.0L V6 going as long as I can-too include fixing rust in the rocker panels!
@bobb9922
@bobb9922 3 күн бұрын
@@jeffreygoss8109 not the us plant, not the mexico plant, not the JAPAN plant - poor design - debris is from bearings failing.
@TheCarCrazyGuy
@TheCarCrazyGuy 13 күн бұрын
Wonder if you can use a one time metal band clamp around those splitting metal crimp to prevent them from splitting in the future
@Darbman62
@Darbman62 6 күн бұрын
I inherited a 17 with 78k miles and I brought it in to a dealership a few months ago for the cam cover issue and the phaser issue. They replaced the phasers with the new style (I looked at the part number on the service ticket) and they also said the oil pan was leaking so the replaced both the oil pan (full metal now) and the camshaft cover. I also complained about a strange vibration at about 1300 RPM in gears 6-10... they told me it was a bad driveshaft u-joint. So it got a new driveshaft too. Thankfully I found out that it still had warrantee on it and everything was free. I still have warrantee until October and may still be bring it in for trans issues as the vibration at 1300 RPM is still there, but you can barely feel it. Overall I like the truck, but if I can't get everything on it ironed out before I hit 100k or October... I am going to have to get rid of it as I see it being an expensive nightmare to keep going.
@302hobronco
@302hobronco 13 күн бұрын
I know you see this every video, but thank you for this info. I'm about to do a 2018 ecoboost phaser, guides, ect, etc. I've been binge watching all the 3.5 ecoboost info you have put out. Our fleet just picked up 40, 2024 f150s with the 3.5 ecoboost. So the 2018 is the guinea pig, so I can learn for when the 2024s start to have issues. Have a great day.
@RonRussell-sj1zf
@RonRussell-sj1zf 13 күн бұрын
(40) 2024 F-150 w/Ecoboost, now that's what I call job security!
@tatertots-n-soup
@tatertots-n-soup 12 күн бұрын
LoL. Your letting employies drive turbo's? Boy your just asking for it.. I hope none are born after 2005 or women
@302hobronco
@302hobronco 12 күн бұрын
@@tatertots-n-soup there cops, so it will be even worse lol
@fZionists78
@fZionists78 12 күн бұрын
The hose crimps and old phasers are simply unacceptable.
@HeyDude93gt
@HeyDude93gt 12 күн бұрын
I’m a big Ford and GM guy of the old days. I have to give huge props to GM by simply improving on the simple pushrod design with the LS series engine. simplicity and reliability ended up being a win win for twenty plus years Sorry, I forgot to mention Ford bringing back the pushrod engine with the 7.3 Godzilla. Not sure how great it is as I haven’t looked into it much but on the surface, it seems simple. To me that’s a good thing
@joevaagen6170
@joevaagen6170 13 күн бұрын
This is the exact reason i will NEVER buy s new car ever again, my late wife's minivan a 2012 dodge grand caravan with the 3.6 pentastar had a cylinder head replaced in 2021 due to dropped valve that cost me $4400 on the flipside i also own a 1995 Ford F250 4x4 with the 5.8l and can reasonably repair it myself, it passes smog every other year excellently so just maintain and drive it INTO THE GROUND until i can't get parts or i can't do the work !!!
@mph5896
@mph5896 13 күн бұрын
Those vans are fairly easy to work on. And work on, and work on🤣
@bigdaddymak1439
@bigdaddymak1439 13 күн бұрын
Here's your problem once you have a vehicle with a CAN network you have an expiring item. Once a module goes out and the manufacturer no longer makes it you're screwed with a beached whale. That's with all makes TBO
@mph5896
@mph5896 13 күн бұрын
@@bigdaddymak1439 Everything in this world is disposable. Can network is not the boogyman you think it is. Its basically just computers talking to each other on a system. Better than running full amperage to switches and having them burn out and taking out the harness like the old 90's GM stuff.
@bigdaddymak1439
@bigdaddymak1439 12 күн бұрын
@@mph5896 did you read my comment or his?? I'm talking about modules being unavailable when one fails!
@mph5896
@mph5896 12 күн бұрын
@@bigdaddymak1439 I read them both, responding to you. You mentioned CAN network, so I replied about that. Go ask for a new PCM for a 2000 Ford F150 at the dealer. Unavailable from them. Pop a used one in and reprogram it. Vin locked modules, there are people popping up to reset those or swap components to make them work without the programming.
@xr7coug
@xr7coug 13 күн бұрын
Ford needs to go after the vendor for the hoses. The only reasons the crimps would fail are materials or workmanship. Most likely one one or some of the crimp tooling is not setup properly. It could even be a design flaw in the dies. Either way, such a pervasive issue spanning so many years should be on the radar of their quality team.
@KStewart-th4sk
@KStewart-th4sk 12 күн бұрын
Well, when they are using crap plastic parts the crimp would have to be fairly light which is why i assume those are aluminum fittings. All crap from what i see.
@nickwarner8158
@nickwarner8158 12 күн бұрын
Well its hard to automatically blame the vendor without more info. Now certainly the vendor wants to make max profits, but I bet they had a better quality part they could offer but the bean counters at Ford said no. They figured that a high enough percentage of the parts would get out of warranty that it was worth it for them to use crappy parts.
@dlewis9760
@dlewis9760 12 күн бұрын
@@nickwarner8158 "The Vendor" blame only works when it's inconsistent quality. Not when it's the quality most of the time. The vendor will make whatever you want for the price you want to pay. Everyone dumps on the Chinese. They could make perfectly fine stuff, but no one is willing to pay.
@volvo09
@volvo09 11 күн бұрын
​@@KStewart-th4sk yeah a strong crimp will just crush plastic. I have a feeling the thermal expansion of the rubber is fatiguing the aluminum over thousands of heat cycles, like bending metal until it breaks.
@bobb9922
@bobb9922 3 күн бұрын
quality team - 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂lol,lol,lol,lol
@juanbrito-nina2877
@juanbrito-nina2877 12 күн бұрын
Always entertaining, plus I learn things from you... Love the channel bro!
@matthewjohnson4903
@matthewjohnson4903 11 күн бұрын
I have done every phaser job through our dealer in the last 2 years. Every single one gets the updated phasers, warranty or c/p, doesnt matter. never had a claim kicked over it. now, under warranty I cant do all the chains, guides, tensioners etc. but on c/p i do it all or not at all, if cust. wants to pay to fix it, they can pay to fix it right.
@accordio321
@accordio321 12 күн бұрын
I’m sold, Gonna stick with my 5.4 3 valve triton. For all its idiosyncrasies, it pales compared to this turbo V6.
@JimBronson
@JimBronson 12 күн бұрын
I have a 5.4 3V also and the 3.5 Eco is a way better drive, I have test driven them. Just tons more low end and mid range torque. If you have to replace all these parts for a DIY job it's still probably feasible, the click connectors are easy to remove and replace and there are aftermarket options for the hoses. I would not use aftermarket for the timing components though.
@jacobcurtis6849
@jacobcurtis6849 11 күн бұрын
5.4 is a pile of shit too
@Pitcrw6
@Pitcrw6 12 күн бұрын
Great video. If I ever have a major issue with my 2020 5.0 I'm bringing it to you.
@greatbiggiesize3644
@greatbiggiesize3644 5 күн бұрын
Amazing attention to detail, well done, great explanation
@rolandm9750
@rolandm9750 Сағат бұрын
Those hose crimps clearly used to reduce part costs and speed assembly time (as compared to clamps). Obviously there's not a care in the world here for longevity. I'd imagine you could break off/remove some of those sleeves and put a regular clamp on, but with this many of them being a problem and the possibility of damaging the hose/elbow trying to remove it, it makes sense to replace the hoses. One would only hope they don't just up and stop making them at some point.
@dorianleclair7390
@dorianleclair7390 12 күн бұрын
There needs to be more mechanics like you. Love your attention to detail.
@christopherbaker9984
@christopherbaker9984 Күн бұрын
Thanks to you! I went and traded my 2019 f150 in yesterday!
@stevceblazevski8124
@stevceblazevski8124 12 күн бұрын
Such a great detailed video and explanation literally you could not find better mechanic to get the job done the first time!! As far as the cost he didn't design or engineer this engine he is just the one knowledgeable to note and fix all of the trouble areas that are sadly costly but fixable
@Tile4fun
@Tile4fun 6 күн бұрын
So the lesson to learn from this video is not to buy a ford got it I already knew but thanks for confirming it.
@paulhudgins5120
@paulhudgins5120 12 күн бұрын
Awesome attention to the details, that is what I call while your in there replace known problems, and you mostly have to take off or right there for easier replace while your in there.
@Van_Liberty
@Van_Liberty 11 күн бұрын
I will now be fitting out some band clamps for the hose crimps and keep them handy for emergency repairs of splitting metal crimps
@nagythebeast
@nagythebeast 12 күн бұрын
Great video thanks again for the quality and informative videos.
@TM-bd7nf
@TM-bd7nf 12 күн бұрын
That’s exactly what I have. 2018 F150 3.5. Thank you!
@seanbatiz6620
@seanbatiz6620 13 күн бұрын
I’ve peeled off them cheep ass worthless aluminum crimp ferrel clamps & just replace w/high pressure screw clamps.. haven’t ever had one of those types of clamps leak. Way cheeper method then changing out lines themselves, unless the lines are weak, mushy, rock hard, cracking, etc., etc..
@jamram9924
@jamram9924 12 күн бұрын
Careful with those because they can leak. We found other shops were simply tightening the clamps and broke or collapsed the plastic line underneath. We used stainless steel bands similar to CV axle boots. We haven’t had one return with any leaks.
@seanbatiz6620
@seanbatiz6620 12 күн бұрын
@@jamram9924 yes, over tightening any screw type clamp is possible, if one’s exerting excessive force. That and the use of cheap worthless Chineseium clamps
@tatertots-n-soup
@tatertots-n-soup 12 күн бұрын
Doesnt sound like simply tightening to me
@jamram9924
@jamram9924 12 күн бұрын
@@seanbatiz6620 ever noticed those factory clamps? The vast majority, other than a few screw type clamps on German cars, these are pressure clamps. Why? water heats and cools therefore expands and contracts. Yes, plastic connectors can break but over a long period to time/years. Steer clear of those Chinese made hoses and connectors. I’ve used a micro meter to measure the thickness and they’re never the same thickness as the OE hoses/pipe fixtures. We’ve used this stainless steel CV boot clamps with great success and zero issues after thousands of miles. We know a little about heat out here in SW AZ. It’s projected to be 109F today…🥵🥵
@marcharris4176
@marcharris4176 12 күн бұрын
Seems inhave gotten lucky with my 15 3.5 eco. Just water pump at 145k, vaccum pump leak around the same time and turno collant fitting also. No startip rattle yet. But am religious about 4-5k oil cahnges with mobil one. Your the best and thanks for your helpful videos
@TheLawlessGang
@TheLawlessGang 10 күн бұрын
my 15 3.5 tt is leak free i only have 95k miles tho its been good i drive it hard no issues yet hope to keep it another 50k miles
@marcharris4176
@marcharris4176 10 күн бұрын
@@TheLawlessGang it's going to eventually leak at the turbo fitting and vacuum pump. They all do
@TheLawlessGang
@TheLawlessGang Сағат бұрын
@@marcharris4176 ill probably trade in before i get to 150k
@Nick-bc2lm
@Nick-bc2lm 11 күн бұрын
Just dropped my '17 off at dealer for this job. Dont trust the little shops for this big job. 150k, has the rattle. Told them I know and want the new style cam phasers, from seeing your videos. Its also wet in same spot on valve cover... I also smell antifreeze while outside of cab, but never see a leak on garage floor. Told them to do chains etc. I was tempted to make a road trip from Texas and drive it to you, for the attenton to detail. You have part numbers for oil pan, pickup, dipstick etc? My 92 has a metal oil pan from factory, and my 17 has the plastic one... Gives me some things to check after they do the job. Heck, may still road trip to you.
@josephbonilla5910
@josephbonilla5910 Күн бұрын
Great technician 👨‍🔧 you help lot thanks for sharing Brian ✌️
@cruisepix
@cruisepix 12 күн бұрын
Great video Brian! If a part has to come off to get the part of the job that needs replacing I'm replacing it too! Labor is already paid for it's just like the water pumps that were behind the timing belts, no the water pump didn't need to be replaced at 60-75k miles like the belt butt I'm here and if it starts to fail in the next 10-25k miles I'm going to do another timing belt for a water pump job. For the cost of the part I change it! Take the steps to ensure the job is going to be a "one and done", that brings it to the other known failure points, we're this deep make it a job that will last another 100k+ miles! If the vehicle is solid it cheaper than buying new! 😎✌
@Fred_Durst1
@Fred_Durst1 12 күн бұрын
Brian you are a fantastic mechanic. I have to say tho, I have a 7.3 superduty that is almost 30 years old and I havent had even half the issues this truck has.
@brianlykins6663
@brianlykins6663 12 күн бұрын
Brian, great video. Great tips. $6k tuneup, thats ridiculous. I hate it every time I run into it, tge same thing you stated, you're doing one job so it makes sense to change parts that could (will) go bad. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us it is greatly appreciated. God bless y'all and stay safe out there.
@windycityben4850
@windycityben4850 12 күн бұрын
Great video!! Love your OCD 🙌
@mikechiodetti4482
@mikechiodetti4482 11 күн бұрын
I've heard of planned obsolescence, but this is rediculas! I'm sure other manufacturers have their problems but this is a nightmare for real! Thanks for this video Brian.
@josephvantreeck2989
@josephvantreeck2989 13 күн бұрын
thanks Brian
@nkgagne
@nkgagne 12 күн бұрын
Now, if it were my truck, the crimps are getting hacksawed off and replaced with some worm gear clamps which ought to hold up fine. I get why that approach isn’t taken by a shop owner working on customers’ vehicles, but it could save a shadetree mechanic a lot of money when the hose itself is just fine underneath the cracked crimp.
@PapaHank1
@PapaHank1 11 күн бұрын
Be worm gearing on a brittle plastic tubing unfortunately. It’ll break before it thinks about getting tight.
@billk8780
@billk8780 13 күн бұрын
I've got a 2015 Explorer Sport. Will be getting under the engine on my back with a strong flashlight and start looking. Thanks, Brian
@repro7780
@repro7780 12 күн бұрын
I have a 2014 Explorer Sport, and recently had a timing job, she was throwing multiple codes for timing. Water pump and spark plugs were also done while everything was apart. Here in Canada, all that was $5K canadian. The engine runs smoother than I remember now. Ford did it; by an experienced tech (I asked) If you find anything, LMK!
@TheOnlySgtRock
@TheOnlySgtRock 12 күн бұрын
Wonderful video. Yeah if I had one of those model years, I'm changing all of that. I have a '15 and I took mine to the dealer for a warranty timing cover oil leak at 80k. I paid to have them replace the water pump while they were in there.
@southernoregonprospector9074
@southernoregonprospector9074 6 күн бұрын
You had me at OCD! 😊
@DerHossMeister
@DerHossMeister 12 күн бұрын
I'd love to see the same breakdown for failures/components for the Gen1
@rippleforeskinxrp358
@rippleforeskinxrp358 Күн бұрын
Yes we need to see: Non leaking water pumps Non leaking vacuum pumps Non leaking valve covers (also plastic) Non leaking turbo coolant fittings Exhaust manifold 4x4 engage/disengage that works (vacuum) Direct injection valve stem anti-caking Etc. I have had it all...
@blh3741
@blh3741 12 күн бұрын
Great Video!
@dirkstires9767
@dirkstires9767 12 күн бұрын
I have a 2014 with 152000 and have had no problems whatsoever. I wish the best for you guys, It seems the 150 has gone down in quality since I bought mine. 😊
@pro-seriesfabrication3810
@pro-seriesfabrication3810 4 күн бұрын
I have a 2016 with 138000. No problems yet either. Stuff like this makes me want to sell though, before stuff goes sideways
@lisashiela9137
@lisashiela9137 11 күн бұрын
Valuable information you need to know.
@onenikkione
@onenikkione 12 күн бұрын
Fixed Right!!! Ford techs (actually the Dealership) wants & needs a constant supply of work coming in due to the large over-head cost and if the engine fails "can I interest you in a new truck".
@18432
@18432 12 күн бұрын
Hi, Brian I follow your feeds all the time, I really appreciate how you go in to detail on why you replace what you do and most of all your a perfectionist, I really appreciate that. I'm going to throw a bit of a curve ball at you, what i mean by that is by the operating climate these trucks are in. I live in Northern Canada, we call power running boards a "California design" they just fail up here with the cold, Ice, snow, salt, etc and someone little darling puts the running board motor right were all the crap is kicked up from the front tires, a splash guard helps but very little, that little darling is an Engineer at Ford. I can go on for ever. These splitting hose crimps now, lets talk about that. I see no TSB's or an SSM on this here in Alberta, I will be watching very close moving forward, do you see certain problems on these Ford Vehicles in certain climates? I also wanted to ask if when a part is replaced if it is a corrected series, I know 3.5 Phasers have been amended several times so I'm told, I actually wonder if they are an amended series as they keep failing it seems. Anyways, I want you to know I appreciate all you post on here to keep us consumers updated. Keep well Brian. Pat
@danted232
@danted232 5 күн бұрын
I wish i lived near you, would love to have you work on my stuff!! Love the attention to detail! I hope on my 21 3.5 f150 alot of these issues were corrected 💁🏻‍♂️
@AS-ud4zm
@AS-ud4zm 12 күн бұрын
I'm an ex-drag racer from the 60's. I haven't been able to afford new vehicles for several decades so this is all new to me. When did this nonsense start? Totally unfair to the consumer.
@volvo09
@volvo09 11 күн бұрын
About 20 years ago it really took off. I remember opening the hood of an 01 Volvo around 03 and was surprised to see plastic parts everywhere... It was the newest car I had seen at the time. The plastic parts and preassembled one piece hoses have only gotten more common as time goes by.
@workingcountry1776
@workingcountry1776 11 күн бұрын
Sticking with my 4.9L EFI inline 6 in my 87 Econoline van with c6 trans.... Slow and very reliable. I use it for work. Ex luxury van now contractor van
@copisetic1104
@copisetic1104 13 күн бұрын
Buy a clamptite and some good stainless wire and reinforce all those factory clamps before they go bad.
@oppyland
@oppyland 12 күн бұрын
TIL there's a Clamptite - pretty slick! I was gonna say use hose clamps, but this is even better.
@billyboone2694
@billyboone2694 13 күн бұрын
I used your videos to do timing job, oil pump, etc on my 5.4 3v a few years ago. Appreciate your videos you have saved me a lot of money over the years. Do you have any opinion on the 2.7 EB vs the 3.5? Seriously considering going to a 2.7 EB F150 since I tow rarely and always under 7k lbs. Seems like the 2.7 is the more reliable engine?
@chrischiampo7647
@chrischiampo7647 12 күн бұрын
Spot On Brian I Wouldn’t Do It Any Other Way Than How You Describe Like You Said 1 and Done 😊😀😎
@tonyshirley5674
@tonyshirley5674 12 күн бұрын
I think it is time for you to move your shop and family to Indiana, say near my hometown in central Indiana! We promise to keep you busy. Great video!
@KStewart-th4sk
@KStewart-th4sk 12 күн бұрын
Get in line. LOL
@bearing_aficionado
@bearing_aficionado 12 күн бұрын
100% agree! We can use him here in the Indy area!
@Mytruck5600tailights
@Mytruck5600tailights 9 күн бұрын
If you wouldn't make a four hour drive to see Brian, then you don't deserve him.
@bearing_aficionado
@bearing_aficionado 9 күн бұрын
@@Mytruck5600tailights umm... you are talking about an 8 hour round trip on top of the time to fix your vehicle. Some people don't have the time for that.
@jasonbrushett2005
@jasonbrushett2005 12 күн бұрын
I'm from Nova Scotia Canada, my 3.5 has 120,000kms.I had the cam phaser software update at 57000kms.I've never had any cold start rattle. I change my oil at 8000kms with Mobil 1 full synthetic 5w30. Hope for the best.I was just in for service recently and asked my dealer about the frequency of cam phaser failure,and he said they do very little of the this repair.Just maintain it best I can and hope for the best I guess.
@mathewgunsolus2592
@mathewgunsolus2592 12 күн бұрын
Ours went at 95 k with 6-7 k oil changes with synthetic
@mini-toilet
@mini-toilet 10 күн бұрын
@@mathewgunsolus2592 Too long. Stick with 5k
@maraudersr1043
@maraudersr1043 13 күн бұрын
Please do a 2.7 common failure points.
@williamtoney2599
@williamtoney2599 12 күн бұрын
Amen! I have a 2016 2.7 “leak-o-boost.
@Lawnfella
@Lawnfella 12 күн бұрын
There’s not any except the early leaking oil pans
@williamtoney2599
@williamtoney2599 12 күн бұрын
Well, I do have that….😂
@jackmehoff1565
@jackmehoff1565 12 күн бұрын
The video would be pretty much the same as this one
@Lawnfella
@Lawnfella 12 күн бұрын
@@jackmehoff1565 nope sure wouldn’t
@DustinAplin
@DustinAplin 10 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@tngtacticalmiata1219
@tngtacticalmiata1219 12 күн бұрын
This kind of crap is why I stick to Panthers and other older stuff. My wife had a 2013 Taurus SHO. The first year we had it it spent 8 MONTHS at the dealership. Once we finally got it back "fixed" it lasted for about a year before it had to go back again for another 2 months. I was so damn relieved when we finally sold it.
@KStewart-th4sk
@KStewart-th4sk 13 күн бұрын
Ford should be embarrassed about all those split fittings on those coolant lines! That's absolutely ridiculous and should be a recall issue. May as well go back to band clamps and a screwdriver or nutdriver! I have come across them on air lines with 110-120 PSI air pressure and they never blew off. 21PSI is zilch in comparison.
@JimBronson
@JimBronson 12 күн бұрын
Agreed, 100%, 21 PSI is not that high.
@volvo09
@volvo09 11 күн бұрын
​@@JimBronson I think it's the thermal expansion of the rubber that does it over thousands of heat cycles.
@JimBronson
@JimBronson 11 күн бұрын
@@volvo09 Yes, that and the hard plastic quick connector fittings will be weakened by heat cycles over time. That's what happened on my Navigator with the 5.4, had to replace all the quick connect heater hoses. Rhetorical question: What was wrong with the old style hoses? But anyway...
@jtjones4727
@jtjones4727 10 күн бұрын
Yeah I have a big 80 gallon air compressor that is set for an outlet pressure of 135 psi, and I have homemade air lines that my dad made years and years ago, a lot of them are screwed together with band clamps, and they have never failed yet.
@alexanderknight6399
@alexanderknight6399 12 күн бұрын
Excellent video. I really enjoy the walkthrough of the specific issues these parts have and where they fail. What is your opinion of the current gen 5.0 Coyote engine? It would be great to see a similar video for that powertrain. What are your thoughts on the longevity of the 5.0? As in, buying a 2024 with the plan of having it for 10 years and 200,000 miles? Again, great stuff. Thanks.
@Mr2004MCSS
@Mr2004MCSS 12 күн бұрын
He usually doesn't have much good to say about the 5.0L either.
@trackpackgt877
@trackpackgt877 12 күн бұрын
ummmm glad i got a 2.7 ecoboost and not a 3.5! great video brother
@user-td1zd1um3l
@user-td1zd1um3l 12 күн бұрын
Me too I’ve got a 2020 just shy of 60,000 and it’s been flawless just been doing preventative fluid changes I was second guessing when I bought it over the 5.0 and 3.5 but I’m glad I did
@trackpackgt877
@trackpackgt877 12 күн бұрын
@@user-td1zd1um3l I been really happy with my 2018 2.7 has 85k just normal fluid changes like you said i did just do plugs this weekend still had factory ford plugs. I run Amsoil of course only the best oil for mine turbos are hard on oil. But I know of another 2.7 truck that had 350k when he traded it in nothing but normal maintenance.
@engineer_alv
@engineer_alv 12 күн бұрын
@@trackpackgt877 Mine has 191K miles. I'm doing 5K miles oil changes and will replace the leaky oil pan at my next oil change along with plugs.
@trackpackgt877
@trackpackgt877 11 күн бұрын
@@engineer_alv 191k!!?? thats great to hear I love to hear about high mileage 2.7s gives me hope mine will make at least 200k. and yes 5k mile oil changes are important for these direct injection turbo Motors
@Tcw2019
@Tcw2019 12 күн бұрын
We got an expedition that the dealer lied about and started prior to our arrival. Got it home and had the phaser rattle. I battled with them to fix it and they did and it’s been nothing but finding things they did wrong since. Vacuum lines not connected, none of the intake boots even remotely tightened. I’m about to ditch the thing because I don’t trust it
@michaeldunagan8268
@michaeldunagan8268 9 күн бұрын
I will never purchase a vehicle manufactured after 1990 unless I see proof the timing belts/time ng chain systems have been changed.
@RicoCantrell
@RicoCantrell 12 күн бұрын
Love these videos man. I also appreciate the attention to detail. If you don't mind me asking, what's the cost on the more complete job. With hoses, cap, and other things included? Just a ball park as compared to just changing out phasers.
@cullenmiller8170
@cullenmiller8170 12 күн бұрын
Nice video and explanations. I would probably replace belt, tensioner and idler pulleys as well. I didn’t see if you replaced spark plugs when you at the 100,000 mile mark, but I would do those as well. Like you said if you spend the money to make it reliable might as well do it while you there and cry once. I hope my 2020 2.7 liter won’t need all those parts. 🤔
@jdevivo35
@jdevivo35 9 күн бұрын
I have been fighting the high running fan isssue forever. 3 trips to the dealer and the answer was “there are no codes”. Do I have to replace the housing or can I just replace the thermostat! Your channel is AWESOME! 🎉
@byronargueta1026
@byronargueta1026 11 күн бұрын
Thank you After watching this video i decided i will keep my 07 F150 4.6 Engine w 140k no problems at all. I ws thinking about a newer truck but no more!!!
@Geoff240ti
@Geoff240ti 13 күн бұрын
I would love to see this video only with the 2nd gen explorer/flex with 3.5 ecoboost. Had startup rattle at 61k miles, dealer fixed. Now 100k miles rattling even worse.
@ddblairco
@ddblairco 12 күн бұрын
thank you
@eliohernandez01
@eliohernandez01 12 күн бұрын
This is why I'd probably choose a late build 2014 F-150 with a 5.0l (specifically), or a 15-17 F-150 with the 5.0l. Still unsure about the 21+ 5.0l's but they look promising!
@ThatRaptorNerd
@ThatRaptorNerd 12 күн бұрын
I have a 2017 F-150 Raptor. As soon as I need Cam Phasers done I am bringing it to your shop for the full $6000 tune up!
@jeremydoblinger3609
@jeremydoblinger3609 12 күн бұрын
I've got a 19 f150 with 3.5 ecoboost and I'm gonna have ri check my coolant hoses now..
@NITROUSnBIASPLYS
@NITROUSnBIASPLYS 13 күн бұрын
Do you have a video on If I was to swap cams on a gen1 mustang 5.0? Just setting the chains, timing and such. Thanks
@Lmcjr1000
@Lmcjr1000 13 күн бұрын
Dang Ford! Do better!! I’m still a Ford fan but it makes hard to see things like this. Wish there was somebody like you here in Mississippi.
@wretchedexcess1654
@wretchedexcess1654 13 күн бұрын
Can we have a common failure list on the 2020 2.7 Ecoboost in the AWD Edge ST?
@lvsqcsl
@lvsqcsl 10 күн бұрын
Dang, the 'ol Marquis has 1/2 million miles and I have never touched the timing chains. Of course, it doesn't have variable-valve timing and it has cast iron tensioners. Looks like it needs to run forever; and it might. GREAT VIDEO!
@mrstanps
@mrstanps 13 күн бұрын
Could you provide a parts list of the parts you recommend changing out, as shown in this video?
@hotpuppy1
@hotpuppy1 12 күн бұрын
Easy, lift off radiator cap>>drive new truck under it>>replace radiator cap with new one.
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