You are GOOD!

Nice job

Dorman sells reman clusters, and O'Reilly's has a service for fixing clusters. There are many rebuild services for clusters and also diy kits for replacing the small motors. So, there are many options out there.

nothing is as bad as when a new part is bad, that can send a mechanic down a rabbit hole fast.

Not surprised, had 2 napa compressors fail in under 10,000 miles on my personal vehicle. Same issue with O'Reilly brake calipers.

So car quest is the bomb

Very helpful! Working on 1987 Ford Ranger with erratic speedometer. Replaced VSS (aftermarket) ... did not fix. One of the comments gave me a clue. I suspect broken solder connection, since it is intermittent.

Merry Christmas and God Bless you all.

Video such hi res. Great job

There is a guy here in Atlanta that still repairs those clusters with the psom. Hamps is the name.

Fix the cluster. It's intermittent which means a bad connection. Take a soldering iron to all connections and clean all harnesses. Free fix

The trip odo is moving also.

I noticed that it added 2 miles to the clock.

I'm like you and treat it like I'm the first one to touch it. Thank goodness the customer brought the original parts with the vehicle. I don't trust other shops or customer diagnosis. Thanks.

Brian, Your camera shots inside the sensor hole to the shaft were amazing! The great film director, Cecil B. DeMille, could not have done it better!

Thank you for the detailed explanation of your diagnostic process, that's something I feel most people miss out on, you can talk about where you started and where you ended up at but we need to understand how you got there, please keep up the great work

Government cars don't have many miles because government employees don't have many miles.

Mr.Brian is an awesome mechanic 🙏💯

Return part to NAPA. Goes back on the shelf, junk sold to the next victim.

Put a alt on a crown Vic from Napa it would charge but the alt light still on had to get another one

Another amazing teaching moment!

I have a 2001 Ford Expedition XLT 5.4L TRITON... have the jumping gauges issue with my fuel gauge sometimes and my rpms always read @ 2k rpm even at idle or going 70+/- mph...never changes unless the key's off. Have seen all the gauges fuel, speed, rpm, just dance around a cpl times too...idk😕🤷🏼

That's a common symptom of bad stepper motors. When the cluster is taken out, replace all of them, along with the lamps.

Junk yard for cluster?

Probably a huge shot in the dark here, but here goes: I have a 1998 Ford F-150 XL with the 4.6L V8 (W), regular cab, short bed, rear wheel drive. It starts 95% of the time, but randomly at times it won't start. It is currently in a repair shop and they are scratching their heads. They have verified the battery, starter, alternator and fuel pump (brand new) are all good. It has a new ignition lock cylinder and ignition switch which have also been ruled out. New fuel filter, too. It will start up just fine 95% of the time, but once in a while it just won't start at all unless they jump the starter solenoid. Once started, it runs "like new," doesn't die or stall, has good compression, no leaks, and isn't throwing any codes. Any ideas?

Used a Napa temp sensor on a 93 Wrangler. Thought vehicle was overheating. Kept chaseing and over heating issued for days while I never actually had one. Sensor was just off. Put in old factory one and temp read perfectly. Was trying to do prevention maintenance while head was off. How many sensors have they sold that are wrong if they havent gotten it right since 93 I don't see how they are still in business.

You’ve shown that the signal from the sensor is noisy, but you haven’t shown that a repaired cluster wouldn’t work with the NAPA sensor. It could be that a properly working cluster would dampen the noisy NAPA signal and give you a clean speedometer anyway

“A Tool” definition: ANYTHING you can use to evaluate or perform the function or use to work another object. - great use of the drill. That’s how I use my tools also

You could do anything. Great tech/mechanic, medical doctor, scientist. Thank you for being!!!!

Brian, while you were cruisin' on the lift, did you have your sunglasses on?

Again, great tutorial as usual!!!

great video. i have a 95 e350 with similar problems, speedo bouncing+odd shifting. It has an OBD-1 and i think the VSS is a magnetic type. Could i ask for advice on how to test the output? Im cautious about trying to run the vehicle with something unplugged that shouldnt be

Like your video of the Ford products I have a F150 with 3.5l eco boat has 170,000 miles should I change the timing chain and oil pump run 5w30 full synthetic oil from shaffers

You would love my 1996 e250 HD .. IF you think this is clean. Nice work !! And did the cluster get fixed ?

That was a great approach on the diag especially taking out the other variables that could interfere , I would love to see that pattern on an oscilloscope before and after!

I learned a long time ago to look at the gauge or indicator first thing. Many times I found that to be the problem. As always, like your videos and your troubleshooting ways.

I can fix that cluster if you want to do a mail in repair deal.

Always a pleasure watching you work. I have shared so many of your tips and tricks with people working on their cars.

One of my favorite channels. Thank you...Richards "Mobile" Auto and Air

Great diagnostic explanation and yes, you can get that cluster repaired. There are still some places it can be sent to for repair.

Hey Brian, can you include the instrument cluster repair if you end up doing it please? I haven't search other videos on this, so maybe there are a ton, but I love your attention to detail and the process you show. My mom has a 1994 Ford Explorer and her speedo gauge jumps around so I think it may be the gears in the cluster. Thanks for all your videos. Take care!

We put the 4WD goodies from a 95 F350 under a E350 back when. One of the most satisfying projects I have ever done. Guy still has the van and it's his main work rig.

I will only use Motorcraft Sensors...thank you

Most auto part stores carry junk. Had to get 3 different master cylinders for a Toyota truck and each one didn't work. Had to end up getting a different brand from another store.

I really like the Ford Econoline too bad they’re gone now I have a Ford transit 250 work van I like it too but I like the Econoline better great video

Just have the customer throw his phone up there with a GPS app that displays speed. Old problems require modern solutions!

Great diagnosis, you're a very competent mechanic! It is always better to check electrical parts 1st before replacing even if someone needs to watch you or youtube to show how to perform the tests, the drill test really showed the 'new' sensor was NG.

What diagnostic tool do you use and program please?

Brian there is a guy out by Orland park il that repairs clusters he will even come pick them up and deliver them back . The shop I work at is just 30 mile south for where your shop is .

I had this issue with a crankshaft position sensor on my 1997 Dodge Grand Caravan with the 3.3L V6. I bought one from O Reilly's and got two weeks out of it. Pulled it out, took it back for free replacement, that one quit a day later. Took it in to Dodge dealer, thinking it was something more sinister behind all this, and with a Mopar sensor, all problems solved. Penny wise pound foolish always bites you in the ass. Great diagnosis on this van Brian, thank you for each video you make, I watch them all.

A great example of inaccurate after market parts.

Great video... Not my vehicle type but still great content and very thorough as always... Thanks

Eric O. From south mail auto uses United radio all the time. He ships it out, they fix it, and they ship it back.

South Main Auto has several videos where Eric O sends clusters and radios for repairs that are faulty. Enjoy your videos! I still have my 98 F150 4.6L truck. You have helped me on some repairs I have made.

GM has problems with the stepper motors in their clusters on 2001 -2007 years.. maybe more than that .....

Why not get a Denso part?

United Radio, Syracuse NY will fix that cluster...

Another great video. Thanks Brian!!

Very informative. Great video.

Great episode! Thanks!!

Ha ha ha, I'm driving a 1994 econoline and it's my carpet cleaning company truck. 300 ci six cylinder with now 330,000 miles hauling the GVW every day.

Great video.

Merry Christmas Brian!

I love watching your channel and content, but can you PLEASE match the intro audio volume to the normal audio volume of your videos? I have to always turn down the volume for the intro to about 30% and then turn it all the way back up to 100% when you get into the actual video.

Hey Ford people...be a sub here...dealers don't show this or tell you how they steal your hard earned money....thx Brian....

Nice, good job

Excellent diagnosis. If you had the schematic for the cluster we could probably fix it. Ford clusters had flaky wiring back in 2000. Could have started earlier. I've had the 2000 Windstar cluster go flaky twice and the engine computer once. Sometimes if you whack the dash in just the right place everything goes back to normal. I ran the Windstar for years like that cuz I know just where to whack it. Taught my wife. It was so funny to see her do it too. But I finally changed the cluster and drove to southern California in sone very hot weather. The van ran like a dream and maybe burned a half a quart of oil. From Vancouver that's not bad. Hard to find a good cluster but I was lucky for that trip. Now this cluster is doing it too but it needs to be whacked in a different place. Works. Next time I intend to resolder the wiring myself since I'm a printed circuit guy from the 70's. I saw at least one KZfaq video on resoldering these clusters. But you also need a strong magnifier with a good light. And the right tools and solder. Basically it helps to have previous circuit board experience. If this were your first circuit board repair, I'd let an expert do it. Most novices are downright terrible at soldering.

I think Napa echlin parts are made by Standard. If money is not a problem buy OEM.

Still amazes me how and why the aftermarket guys don't build and quality check their parts better!

Great job. Here in Arizona, we have a few places that repair all kinds of clusters. For less than $200

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yep willing to bet if you tore those apart the windings in the ford would be thinner wire and more of it. the aftermarket fewer windings and larger wire. still outputs but there is less reluctance in the magnetic field thus more prone to induction spikes. your drill test is the perfect example at low speed why the old fashioned meter with a needle is better(d'arsenal movement). your digital meter sample rate is just too slow to keep up. oscilloscope time! its a 1998 so figure on bad solder joints in the panel. reflow with some good solder will likely fix it. i remember way back some makes put the sensor for the computer on the back of a mechanical speedometer. a bad or sticky spedo cable would cause all sorts of headaches!!!

Hi Brian, I hate to go off topic here, but I need you helps with a 2014 f150 v6 3.7, it got towed to me 2 weeks ago, crank no start. found fuel pump fuse #27 burned, performed the fuel pump fuse upgrade and moved it, it ran well. today it is back again, crank but no start, but as soon as it got off the tow truck , it started right up. no trouble code. can it be the fuel pump control module problem?? I don't know what else to check. any advise will be greatly appreciated. sieu

Just curious how many hours of diag was charged?

Keep up the good work and Mary Christmas

Fantastic vid. Thanks Sir.

Napa know how?????

Dangit! I want to know what happened with he cluster.

But it came in a nice box.

Where would you order new cluster from?

Brian, the cluster is an easy fix. It’s actually the solder on the back side. Take it out and find the connection. There was an issue with the 98 and 99 especially. I just fixed mine and it worked flawlessly

Would be interisting to see the ac waveform on a lab scope between the two. Labscopes are a awesome diagnostic tool. The snap on vantage even though it's old is a great tool. With the current probe you can even test fuel pumps and watch the pump motor current waveform. Super usefull.

I wanted a cluster with a tach for my old truck so I got one used and changed the mileage to match my mileage. Theyre easy to wind to whatever mileage you need.

I see the problem......The idle is set too high. Forty MPH at idle😂. You do know that’s a joke.........

Great info thanks

Alright folks.. before you go shitting on Napa, realize that Echlin is under the umbrella of Standard motor products, and there are plenty other stores besides Napa that use their stuff, just in a different box. Also, we lucked out and found a bad one out of the box? It happens. We recently had issues with more than one alternator directly from Ford on a newer diesel truck, since one wasn't yet available aftermarket. It was charging, but the truck still gave a bad charging system code. So, point is, it can happen anywhere. On the other hand though, excellent diagnosing🙂

In that initial look at the dash, it looked perfectly normal to me, it is after all, a FORD !!

That's the difference between you and me. You questioned the VSS first and branched off from there. I would have questioned what radio station it was tuned to, then if all the windows were up or down. :-) ;-) :-D

As always, another great diagnostic adventure. It's a real bummer that aftermarket parts are of such poor quality. NAPA can do better that that!

My mechanic friend says that NEW means "Never Ever Worked". Don't assume the new part is good.

Just go to a junkyard and take one off of a wrecked van the miles and everything will still read the same. Your videos are amazing thank you for your knowledge and providing it to the world for others to learn

I had a Thunderbird Super Coupe where the worm gear around the shaft broke to pieces. had to remove the tail shaft housing to install a new worm gear... sad

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My 04 E350 did something like that. It ended up being the alternator and starter.

I bought new brake rotors for a '74 Lincoln. Within 3 months, normal driving, both were warped.

Could you please help me out. I have a 1999 Ford Explorer 5.0 2wd and it’s hard to find a transmission is there anything interchange with it? Please let me know your help is very appreciated thanks

After much contemplation and analysis, I've determined it either needs a new flint or is low on lighter fluid. No need to thank me.....you're welcome.

Brian, I had asked before about getting an EVTM for my 2001 Mustang. You said that you haven't seen one in a long time. Understood, I'm an Old Fart who was a Ford Tech in the 80's and 90's..... BUT, that printout you showed at the 20:05 point IS a page out of an EVTM!! Where did you get that - and where can I get the Program that has that? Thanks and Merry Christmas!!🎄 Carmine ✈🚂🚙

i remember i had the exact same thing a long long time ago exact problem exact fix it was a nappa part shows how old i am

Never trust after market stuff especially remen stuff,and other shops want things done right I'll see mr Brian here