Tank you for this comparison test.. we really need to consider who in the right mind tow daily more than 300 miles really ? (not to mention Europe.. ) Truckers might be the right answer, and even for those Tesla will have the full electric Semi-truck,along with other brands Daimler-Mercedes e-Cascadia Freightliner, Volvo e-truck, MAN, DAF, Bollinger and other brands will be available very soon to tow & carry up to 21 tones of payload up to 500 miles.. So for the rest of people these full electric pick-ups cover more than daily basics needs and most importantly do not pollute in full use even towing and they can regen charging the battery specially in tow that can be very good thing to be exploited specially going down on longer trips .. If some people really need to get on the other side of country why not consider trains, airlines flying-jets ?.. also i watched TFL from US saying that F150-e Lightning tested was the first edition fully loaded with all bangs & whistles the most expensive trim but it can also be ordered to be more affordable in lower trims for example with a single electric motor on rear axle that it will be also lighter than the dual motor- AWD version which for such heavy pick-up EV that aspect is important would instantly translated in longer distance trips travelled between charging points.. so yeah if we also consider that for EV would not be pay any pollution taxes that are recently added for ice vehicles, also the govern support to help people to get a green full EV vehicle there are ways to sort things out for each customer budgets & needs and consider BEV as viable solution on long term ..

My next truck will be EV.

Sorry not ready for prime time

Maybe in California with its steady temps is it good but in winter of Midwest or northern states you are in trouble by battery capacity

No its not. The old ways are just "the old ways". There is nothing "better" in the old ways.

80k? More like 100k, I haven't seen any for 80k. And yes, the lack of range towing is the problem with the EV trucks.

more like a ridiculously flawed comparison

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I would wait until electric lorries are mainstream. About 5 years from now.

No pollution taxes are applied for ice cars in US - yet ? (in Europe traffic Comission are recently added slowly to be applied in all countries and payed along with highway road taxations).. Another weird fact these tests are just for exemplification and pushed by auto-journalists to the extreme, but in real life daily use, who really tow daily on such long distances with heavy big trails ( except the truck-workers, farmers or companies with heavy-duty equipments ) many recent reports from US show that on last 10 years, 95% of pick-up truck owners do not tow more than 10.000 lbs less than 4 times per year on average 300 miles distances trips, less than 70% pick-up owners go with them off-road.. So let's say they really need hawling lots of goods & stuff to cover the main case, but then are better solutions available to order right now like : Tesla Semi-Truck along with other brands that build full electric semi-trucks for different purposes and in different sizes capable to tow big heavy duty trailers like: Daimler-Mercedes e-Cascadia Freightliner, Volvo e-truck, MAN, DAF, Bollinger and other brands will be available very soon (in 1-2 years maximum) to tow & carry up to 21 tones of payload up to 500 miles.. so honestly i really wonder is this a new thing to bring down EV's just like they did in the past with GM-EV1 case ?!!!..

@@poplaurentiu4148 Its not the highway road taxation. Its a regular tax on fossil cars and fossil energy use that has to be paid when those vehicles are used. At least thats the case in Austria.

Price never tells the whole story. If it did, carmakers would never be able to sell new vehicles. Just like portion size never tells the whole story of a restaurant.

You're looking through rose colored glasses. With a boxier tow object and speed at normal, which is not 55mph, the BEV would fair much worse. That along with the charging challenges mean unless it's short tow with charging at home sufficient, it's a no go. However for short tows and charging at home, sure, great! All depends on the use case.

Want to drive with AA batteries?

Dunno how that's going to be the future for cars though. How do you swap out batteries that are built into the floor?

Well it still can make sense today if you decide to travel at a more leisurely pace. I think most states limit big rigs to 55-60, so going a similar speed wouldn’t necessarily make you an impediment.

@@ALMX5DP the speed limits in Texas are all 75mph with a lot set at 80mph tractor trailers included. It would be almost suicidal to drive 55mph on our highways

@@xjmg007 oh interesting, yeah definitely want to keep up with traffic so some geographical areas may be more conducive to this kind of EV ownership.

Well we don't want to wait until 2025 when the Cybertruck "might" come out:D

I think it depends on your use case

Thats why i will wait for the Cybertruck.

Yeah, the battery reached enough % after 49 minutes, according to the video. Three hours to unhitch and hitch? I'm sure all the phone calls and setting up the filming added time as well, and I'm pretty sure the Wendy's meal was included in the "4 hours" as well.

He’s just pretty much demonstrating how inconvenient it can possibly get with a full EV. I’m here in southern Cali and I drive an EV. It is not a surprise how many stations I’d have to go through just to find one I can charge it. They’re either full or broken (broken very often). I try my best not to charge at Public station, it’s such a waste of time looking for one that actually works.

FWIW, home charging remains where it’s at for EVs, especially if your vehicle doesn’t give you access to the Supercharger network. At-home energy rates are far cheaper than gas right now, especially overnight rates. This is obviously less doable/effective when it comes to road trips.

Don't drive your car below 20% and don't charge over 80%. Biggest nonsense. But you must understand, they are all petrol heads.

To be clear, the limit for towing in CA is 55 mph. But you are right, it's not realistic. Even in CA, people rarely follow the 55 mph rule for towing. I certainly don't.

Which means it will appeal to 95% of truck buyers in the U.S.

@@baddriversofcolga 95% of truck buyers cannot afford $90,000+ truck.

I have never towed a car on a trailer in my 55 years on the planet. I have, however, towed plenty of kids and groceries. And carried lumber and plywood. And mulch. And dirt. And trees. And appliances. And TV’s. And junk to the dump. Lightning is perfect for all of that. Used to have a boat, but never towed it more than 100 miles. Seems like the Lightning would be fine for all of that. And far cheaper to operate on a daily basis. And far less regular maintenance. Oh, and far better for the environment. If you need to tow heavy loads regularly, you probably are not getting an F-150 at all, and a diesel probably makes more sense. But for the vast majority of everyone else, this is perfect.

@@spencer476 EV's aren't necessarily better for the environment at all, and a regular gas F150 would do everything you just said but for $20,000-$30,000 less, and you'd sacrifice no range or refueling speeds.

Actually, EVs are indeed better for the environment, and sometimes markedly better depending on the manner in which your local electric grid is powered.

Fair question. We wanted to see how the newly updated Silverado would do, and we also went with what was made available to us. It helps that the F-150 PowerBoost is a long-term vehicle we purchased.

Did you watch the video? Ford sent him to the wrong charger, he had to unhook a trailer, charger wasn't working went to another charger, charged and it cost him the same amount as money as filling up with fuel, rehook up the trailer and then could get going. Even the charger afterwards didn't work. Sure if you live in a perfect world and nothing goes wrong your estimate might work, but that isn't the real life practical case. All in all it took him ~3 hours more.

@@nwbasson yes, first charger worked, they were just 50kw chargers. Faster charger was 1 mile down the road. So your telling me that trying a couple of chargers and then moving over 2 stalls to get to the charger that's working takes 2 hrs? That still leaves him an hour to unhook and hook up trailer??

It's a start. Just because the first iteration doesn't match what we've been using for 50+ years doesn't mean it wont get there.

@@Gltokensp06 well its not going to be very practical for another 10 (or so) years. Aside from the additional load applied to the energy grid(rolling blackouts anyone!). If Electric cars are the future (and I dont doubt that) the future is boring.

@@Gltokensp06 it's a complete joke. Much like this joke of an administration that's forcing these pieces of 💩 on everyone.

And you'll only have to pay $100k for all of that practicality!

@@Arthagnou People were saying 2 years ago that an electric truck wasn't even possible, yet here we are. As far as the grid, no one expects every American to purchase an EV right away especially as the length of ownership of vehicles has increased. If you're so worried about the grid, I'm sure you're happy that the Inflation Reduction Act specifically earmarks monies to modernize the American power grid system. Also, the only folks who say EVs are boring haven't driven the new crop of EVs that run circles around the performance of their ICE counterparts. Furthermore, MOST people drive "boring" cars. It is such an interesting take, to me.

When is the last time you drove to the sun? Or saw an EV with and extension cord. Truly a dinosaur. You probably lamented the loss of blacksmiths when horseless carriages came into fashion.

@@spencer476 You will defend an EV to your last breath and only because you bought into the rubbish that man somehow can control the weather. Speaking of dinosaurs, what caused their extinction when CO2 levels were greater than current levels? What caused the ice age to terminate? Surely it was man made which explains why all of the proponents of 'save the planet due to rising sea levels' have purchased oceanfront properties while flying on private jets...

Then don't buy it? Geez, you people make it seem like you're being held at gunpoint to buy an ev.

@@prerunnerwannabe Well, for all intents and purposes, we are. States are banning the sale of ICE. Even if not all states, this will impact the entire NA truck market.

@@AkioWasRight California is, but that's 13 years from now, and that's only for new vehicles. We have gone from Leafs to Lightnings in a shorter time frame than that, so I imagine that EVs and the accompanying infrastructure will be vast amounts better by then. But if it's not? Just buy a new ICE vehicle from a state that doesn't have an ICE ban. It's really pretty simple.

It is people like you that key the side of an EV. Why are you so scared to something different? It may not meet your particular needs, but it is not a POS. Curious, what do you drive?

​@@prerunnerwannabe The ban is being introduced in phases that start in 2026 and ending it 2035. This means the market will begin shifts long before the 2035 deadline. Also, it's not just California. There's about dozen or more states that follow CA emission laws. Also, you cannot just buy from another state that sells ICE. To register any vehicle in CA, the car must be CA compliant, which many vehicles sold in other states are not. What's more, wherever the bans are in effect, these bans impact the entire NA market, as there will be diseconomies created by the bans. Prices will rise, servicing and maintenance will become harder to do, selection will become more limited. This will not just impact CA. You already see what production slow downs do to the price of vehicles. Imagine what were to happen when states begin total bans.

That's what most trucks are used for.

@@baddriversofcolga only if you’re in a city 😉

@@DailyDriversCarReviews Or the country.

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