Thanks for feedback. Does seem to be a common issue.

It least my daughter are a few years apart on car purchase

You just pull stuff out your ass.

Honda bullet proof engine. Good move

Yes an absolute must 👍

is 6000 too long?

6k OK but best to do before 8k.

And don't use an engine flush when changing the oil, as they can break down the belt.

Yes that's very good point I hadn't thought of that. Or any other additive such as sea foam.

That's unfortunate. I'm hopeful that in buying one priced with knackered engine and then installing a recon should see us good for a while.

Yes agreed that's why I went for a full recon engine with warranty.

Its shocking isnt it ona 4 year old car.

It is really. However it's a company car and they don't have them serviced at main dealers which had they done then possibly it might not have happened. It was serviced about 3 weeks before the low oil pressure light came on. I have 2 MG's with the k-series engine.....much maligned but still going strong at 18 and 21 years old.

@@michaelbousfield4778 company car. Well. Rhay softerned the blow then. A bet the MG'a are startting to become collectors items.

OK thank for info

Wow that's really bad of ford.

There is far too many sensors and wiring. What till you see part 3!

sneak preview of part 3 here studio.kzfaq.infojr_FfazMQMQ/edit

I am always amazed at the hard work Andy puts into his cars.

Thanks

From Costco. But you can buy direct from quickjacks

I believe the latest ecoboost engines have a chain not a belt.

@@vintagesteelgarageasked technician at Ford dealership about these they are all wet belt he said the only engine with timing chain is some of transit vans

OK good info. Thanks.

Puma uses a Cam Chain but still Wet Belt for Oil Pump, Best thing you can do is buy a Toyota and F Ford.

You where lucky then I have heard a few do that.

Wow thats expensive. I assume thats the final garage bill including labour.

@@vintagesteelgarage yes but with New motor I guess ..and new turbo ...i try to get second hand motor i think i can reduce the price to 4000 € after that i will sell the car . I had the chance to save my car 1 month ago with the vacuum pump was stuck with debris of belt and i was not sure about it... i have also problem with the valve on vacuum pump

You can buy the vac pump part for about £10. I was lucky as I did engine myself. Total cost for recon engine. New clutch and new turbo was about £1800. Also we bought the car cheap as the engine had gone. So all in about £4500 for a 2015 fiesta. That now has a fresh life

@@vintagesteelgarage thanks for your answer do you think i need to change the turbo also with the motor ? I guess when the oil pump failed the turbo was not lubricated ..

@maxmax-sr9lh it's what happened with ours. Take the air inlet pipe off to the turbo and check for side play. There should be no side play.

Tbh. They aren't the quietest engine and the fuel pump on the top at the back Lhs is a bit tappy. If it doesn't get worse over time then don't worry about it.

@@vintagesteelgarage Yes and I forgot to add that noise is only when cold/first starting

That's probably normal then.

Couldn't agree more.

I knew it was broke when we bought it. was just a case of how bad. Yes a very bad design indeed

The crank doesn't sit in oil. The oil level Is below the crank and needs to be pump though oil gallery in the crank. The crank would not be able to rotate at 6000 rpm if it sat in oil.

@@vintagesteelgarage with 5 litres of oil you would think it would survive

@@user-rj4yk3ib8x I see what you are saying but the oil is in the sump and the pump is blocked with the drive belt shredding rubber apart and hence is unable to pump oil around the engine and crank. Thats why the crank is blue with heat and then the bearing fails. The cranks goes before anything else as it has the most stress on it and without the cushion of oil it soon gets hot and fails. Quite a terrible design flat of having a rubber and fibre belt going though all the oil heat cycles and maybe precuoust owners not changing oil often enough.

@@vintagesteelgarage you've got me concerned now , I haven't pulled the sumo yet though. Good video though

If it news to you then it's a good start. Use correct oil and change every 5k miles. However I think the very latest ones had reverted to a chain.

from 7/2018 on with chain for the cams, but I dont know about the belt for the oil pump, still belt or chain - maybe someone knows

@roberthopf3376 I believe pump is still a belt

luckily - I had no idea about this problems - I bought my C-Max in Oktober 2018, the papers say it was assembled in August, so very lucky. That calms me a little, but still this damn oilpump belt. Changing time for the camchain is either 240.000 km or 10 years (I found that out in the net) so in 5 years chain and belt are being replaced, and the oil pump strainer will be cleaned. What else would you recommend? I use the right oil and change it once a year, approximately 10.000 km@@vintagesteelgarage

@@roberthopf3376 yes regular oil changes and the correct grade will help.

The wet timing belt is a crazy idea. Should be banned by law! I would prefer a dry belt over a timing chain. It will last a very long time. If you dare ? I dare - and untill now the timing belt is 15 Years old, but with a low milage. Could last 10 more years - I hope. In my previous car i changed the dry timingbelt after 10 years. It looked like a completely now one - out of the box. My next car will be without Turbocharger. With indirect Port Injection. With a Dry Timing belt. If such long lasting cars are still made. Not sure?

Yes couldn't agree more.

​@flemmingqvist8326 I dont think theres any non direct injection engine cars being made anymore if you want to buy a new car but there are some engines which uses dual injection now like toyota does to keep the intake valves clean with port injectors and the direct injectors there for more efficiency/better emissions and more power than port injection alone

The morons that designed that engine seem to think stupidity is a virtue. I wouldn't touch one with a 10,000ft bargepole. My Mazda 2 1.5 skyactive g is a 4 cylinder 115 bhp non turbo and a timing chain Should be totally reliable with 5,000 miles oil and filter changes. I suggest Ford takes lessons from Mazda and COPY IT. I feel gutted for you buddy 😢

Ouch

Yes that would be a good idea. However if you do find bits in the pickup it does mean the belt is breaking up and only a matter of time before the belt needs to be replaced.

Apparently it's important to use correct oil to prolong the belt.

Yes it will be. All turbos need a very good oil supply as its a plain bearing ie no rollers or bearings so it really needs a health constant oil supply. This was was toast as well due to oil starvation.

@@vintagesteelgarageoil starvation from the oil pick up being block with particles of belt 👍🏻👍🏻

I yes far too complicated for its on good. What was wrong with a wire to the coil and alternator. 😆

Haha. Dont blame you.

Ironically the previous owner had just had it serviced. Obviously too late damage already done.

I'm sure they'll get out of it be saying the correct oil hasn't been used

@@vintagesteelgarage There's people out there that have had nothing but dealer oil chand they're still having problems..

TBH that's not a bad price if they do the job properly. Are you changing because it's due on service or because its started to get noisy? if noisy damage may already be done! If replaced properly garage should replace both internal belts, tensioner and clean oil pump pickup pipe new filter and oil. You need a torque multiplier to retorque the crank bolt which I don't have. Recon engine was £1500 inc VAT, plus oils, ,filters, spark plugs, 3 piece clutch, new turbo and other bits and pieces cost me about £2k not including labour. I would say it took about 20 hours. Luckily my time is free. or else bill could have been about £4k.

Probably not financially viable on older cars

Is the belt made of gold ?

Cheapest I have seen is £990 but it's not economically viable on older cars

Firstly I'm not mechanic. And secondly we bought it cheap and installed a recon engine which will easily out last our needs. Also it was also a fun project. What can I say I like a challenge. Next you'll be saying I shouldnt have bought a 911 because they all have Ims bearing failures. .

I did. Full recon.

Yes correct and when you factor that in that's why I went for a recon engine.