Can we save the 1.0 ecoboost engine having suffered low oil pressure due to the wetbelt (cam belt) failing and blocking the oil pump. Or is it a new engine required? The strip down continues title music by: bluefoxmusic.com
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@christoffsgarage8873 Жыл бұрын
I just bought a Focus 1.0 125 Ecoboost and it may have engine issues. So your videos are very relevant. Very informative. Your content is great with humour thrown in. Felt your pain with the bolts and finding the bottom end was toast.
@vintagesteelgarage Жыл бұрын
Thanks for feedback. Does seem to be a common issue.
@Brian-om2hh11 ай бұрын
I owned a 2013 Focus Ecoboost for 4 years, and luckily it gave me no problems. I moved it on at 50k miles though, having heard about the issues. I now have a Skoda Kamiq with the 1.0 litre 110bhp 3 cylinder VW engine. I'd say this engine is a little smoother and quieter than the Ford Ecoboost. It's also better on fuel, and doesn't require 14 hours to change the timing belt.....
@brianfearn42468 ай бұрын
Great video, another thing to watch on the ford fiesta including the focus the cooling expansion filler tank can develop small hairline cracks caused by the tank becoming brital with heat and age. The first you know about this is when you notice leaking coolent by the pulleys giving the impression of leaking water pump . The cracks usually develop underneath the expansion tank were you carnt see it .
@ianfaulds8799 Жыл бұрын
Great to watch Andy, these engines have a bad reputation, but your methodical approach means you know you'll get away with a short motor. I'm on catch back now on your previous videos. Well done Andy. Very enjoyable. My daughters are 17 now( twins) one has a 107, the other a c1.
@vintagesteelgarage Жыл бұрын
It least my daughter are a few years apart on car purchase
@AsteroSSB Жыл бұрын
You just pull stuff out your ass.
@simonh87011 ай бұрын
I was thinking of buying a 1.5 Ecoboost Fiesta ST. The earlier versions (up to around March 2019) had a chain for the oil pump drive, but the later ones used a belt like this. I think I will give them a miss.
@stevieboy6286 Жыл бұрын
Recently bought a 2015 Fiesta Ecoboost 125. Looked nice in black and fun to drive but I've heard too many horror stories of these engines so got rid and now drive a Honda Civic VTech
@vintagesteelgarage Жыл бұрын
Honda bullet proof engine. Good move
@benkay829511 ай бұрын
Oil change and filter every 5000 miles is the key to this engines survival
@vintagesteelgarage11 ай бұрын
Yes an absolute must 👍
@gamesmaster106010 ай бұрын
is 6000 too long?
@vintagesteelgarage10 ай бұрын
6k OK but best to do before 8k.
@leeroy250249419 ай бұрын
And don't use an engine flush when changing the oil, as they can break down the belt.
@vintagesteelgarage9 ай бұрын
Yes that's very good point I hadn't thought of that. Or any other additive such as sea foam.
@fishler111 ай бұрын
Mines in the garage with a coolant leak. Possibly leaking into the engine. Had nothing but issues with the car. Once fixed I’m selling it
@vintagesteelgarage11 ай бұрын
That's unfortunate. I'm hopeful that in buying one priced with knackered engine and then installing a recon should see us good for a while.
@doneB8306 ай бұрын
Trust me that forty years as a mechanic, never put a used engine in unless you know all its history not even 99 percent of its history 100 percent.
@vintagesteelgarage6 ай бұрын
Yes agreed that's why I went for a full recon engine with warranty.
@michaelbousfield47788 ай бұрын
My 2019 Fiesta has just been diagnosed as needing a new engine due to low oil pressure. Done 115k and 40k of those in last 18 months. A shame as I quite liked the old girl.
@vintagesteelgarage8 ай бұрын
Its shocking isnt it ona 4 year old car.
@michaelbousfield47788 ай бұрын
It is really. However it's a company car and they don't have them serviced at main dealers which had they done then possibly it might not have happened. It was serviced about 3 weeks before the low oil pressure light came on. I have 2 MG's with the k-series engine.....much maligned but still going strong at 18 and 21 years old.
@vintagesteelgarage8 ай бұрын
@@michaelbousfield4778 company car. Well. Rhay softerned the blow then. A bet the MG'a are startting to become collectors items.
@cobbler4011 ай бұрын
Ford have redesigned the block as there is not enough metal between the bores and the engine overheats.
@vintagesteelgarage11 ай бұрын
OK thank for info
@johnhodges78912 ай бұрын
My 2018 eco sport st 67000 miles missed 1 service last year but had a service this year by ford but 5 months later and only 1500 miles it went boom . Had to get rid of it . Ford wanted 8 k for new engine
@vintagesteelgarage2 ай бұрын
Wow that's really bad of ford.
@Andrewausfa Жыл бұрын
Hi Andy, I've owned Focuseseses for years so I know just how cramped the engine bays are. Wouldn't even attempt what you have any more! I had my fingers crossed for the engine.
@vintagesteelgarage Жыл бұрын
There is far too many sensors and wiring. What till you see part 3!
@vintagesteelgarage Жыл бұрын
sneak preview of part 3 here studio.kzfaq.infojr_FfazMQMQ/edit
@allthegearnoidea6752 Жыл бұрын
I am always amazed at the hard work Andy puts into his cars.
@barringtonsmith9147 Жыл бұрын
LOVE the content, gripping stuff
@vintagesteelgarage Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@markbeynon20066 ай бұрын
Great video! Those jacks look ace. Where did you get them from? 🙂
@vintagesteelgarage6 ай бұрын
From Costco. But you can buy direct from quickjacks
@dragon-rides Жыл бұрын
Ford by now MUST know that the wet belt is not working, I wonder why they are still using them?
@vintagesteelgarage Жыл бұрын
I believe the latest ecoboost engines have a chain not a belt.
@brianhume474311 ай бұрын
@@vintagesteelgarageasked technician at Ford dealership about these they are all wet belt he said the only engine with timing chain is some of transit vans
@vintagesteelgarage11 ай бұрын
OK good info. Thanks.
@-DC-11 ай бұрын
Puma uses a Cam Chain but still Wet Belt for Oil Pump, Best thing you can do is buy a Toyota and F Ford.
@alexike1233 ай бұрын
I had ford fiesta 2013 1.0 ecoboost, just changed oil pump and belt and got away with it.
@vintagesteelgarage3 ай бұрын
You where lucky then I have heard a few do that.
@maxmax-sr9lh11 ай бұрын
Your are not alone brother same thing with my 1 l ecoboost ford at 160 000 km motor is dead because of wet belt and stuck pump oil... cost of repaire 8000 € and because i made the flush of oil myself every 20000 km ...i will not have the help of ford..
@vintagesteelgarage11 ай бұрын
Wow thats expensive. I assume thats the final garage bill including labour.
@maxmax-sr9lh11 ай бұрын
@@vintagesteelgarage yes but with New motor I guess ..and new turbo ...i try to get second hand motor i think i can reduce the price to 4000 € after that i will sell the car . I had the chance to save my car 1 month ago with the vacuum pump was stuck with debris of belt and i was not sure about it... i have also problem with the valve on vacuum pump
@vintagesteelgarage11 ай бұрын
You can buy the vac pump part for about £10. I was lucky as I did engine myself. Total cost for recon engine. New clutch and new turbo was about £1800. Also we bought the car cheap as the engine had gone. So all in about £4500 for a 2015 fiesta. That now has a fresh life
@maxmax-sr9lh11 ай бұрын
@@vintagesteelgarage thanks for your answer do you think i need to change the turbo also with the motor ? I guess when the oil pump failed the turbo was not lubricated ..
@vintagesteelgarage11 ай бұрын
@maxmax-sr9lh it's what happened with ours. Take the air inlet pipe off to the turbo and check for side play. There should be no side play.
@gamesmaster106010 ай бұрын
Tbf I never know what noise is and isnt normal on these engines. Since new my engine makes a clacky/tappy sound when lightly revving, but its been like that for ages now
@vintagesteelgarage10 ай бұрын
Tbh. They aren't the quietest engine and the fuel pump on the top at the back Lhs is a bit tappy. If it doesn't get worse over time then don't worry about it.
@gamesmaster106010 ай бұрын
@@vintagesteelgarage Yes and I forgot to add that noise is only when cold/first starting
@vintagesteelgarage10 ай бұрын
That's probably normal then.
@michaelfawbert877310 ай бұрын
Bloody wet belts, why do they use them 🤦 what was wrong with a nice dry cambelt.
@vintagesteelgarage10 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more.
@iftikartaxis10 ай бұрын
Brave man all them hours to find the engine is scrap. Ford should be ashamed Designing a self destructing engine wet belts certainty are not the future
@vintagesteelgarage10 ай бұрын
I knew it was broke when we bought it. was just a case of how bad. Yes a very bad design indeed
@user-rj4yk3ib8x11 ай бұрын
As the engine problem is oul pressed loss and the crank is sat in our its unlikely you would have crank damage
@vintagesteelgarage11 ай бұрын
The crank doesn't sit in oil. The oil level Is below the crank and needs to be pump though oil gallery in the crank. The crank would not be able to rotate at 6000 rpm if it sat in oil.
@user-rj4yk3ib8x11 ай бұрын
@@vintagesteelgarage with 5 litres of oil you would think it would survive
@vintagesteelgarage11 ай бұрын
@@user-rj4yk3ib8x I see what you are saying but the oil is in the sump and the pump is blocked with the drive belt shredding rubber apart and hence is unable to pump oil around the engine and crank. Thats why the crank is blue with heat and then the bearing fails. The cranks goes before anything else as it has the most stress on it and without the cushion of oil it soon gets hot and fails. Quite a terrible design flat of having a rubber and fibre belt going though all the oil heat cycles and maybe precuoust owners not changing oil often enough.
@user-rj4yk3ib8x11 ай бұрын
@@vintagesteelgarage you've got me concerned now , I haven't pulled the sumo yet though. Good video though
@duncanross4185 Жыл бұрын
I'm watching this in horror as a time served marine fitter/turner. I bought a new 3 cyl 1.0L, after a years wait, Fiesta Sport Van fully loaded apart from Power Fold Mirrors for personal use only, and certainly want many miles of trouble free motoring and what I'm seeing on YT does not make happy viewing.
@vintagesteelgarage Жыл бұрын
If it news to you then it's a good start. Use correct oil and change every 5k miles. However I think the very latest ones had reverted to a chain.
@roberthopf337611 ай бұрын
from 7/2018 on with chain for the cams, but I dont know about the belt for the oil pump, still belt or chain - maybe someone knows
@vintagesteelgarage11 ай бұрын
@roberthopf3376 I believe pump is still a belt
@roberthopf337611 ай бұрын
luckily - I had no idea about this problems - I bought my C-Max in Oktober 2018, the papers say it was assembled in August, so very lucky. That calms me a little, but still this damn oilpump belt. Changing time for the camchain is either 240.000 km or 10 years (I found that out in the net) so in 5 years chain and belt are being replaced, and the oil pump strainer will be cleaned. What else would you recommend? I use the right oil and change it once a year, approximately 10.000 km@@vintagesteelgarage
@vintagesteelgarage11 ай бұрын
@@roberthopf3376 yes regular oil changes and the correct grade will help.
@oiyou5870 Жыл бұрын
The wet belts are rubbish wouldn't touch one, how are the timing chain mhevs doing in comparison.
@flemmingqvist8326 Жыл бұрын
The wet timing belt is a crazy idea. Should be banned by law! I would prefer a dry belt over a timing chain. It will last a very long time. If you dare ? I dare - and untill now the timing belt is 15 Years old, but with a low milage. Could last 10 more years - I hope. In my previous car i changed the dry timingbelt after 10 years. It looked like a completely now one - out of the box. My next car will be without Turbocharger. With indirect Port Injection. With a Dry Timing belt. If such long lasting cars are still made. Not sure?
@vintagesteelgarage Жыл бұрын
Yes couldn't agree more.
@sbrader97 Жыл бұрын
@flemmingqvist8326 I dont think theres any non direct injection engine cars being made anymore if you want to buy a new car but there are some engines which uses dual injection now like toyota does to keep the intake valves clean with port injectors and the direct injectors there for more efficiency/better emissions and more power than port injection alone
@juliancaston959810 ай бұрын
The morons that designed that engine seem to think stupidity is a virtue. I wouldn't touch one with a 10,000ft bargepole. My Mazda 2 1.5 skyactive g is a 4 cylinder 115 bhp non turbo and a timing chain Should be totally reliable with 5,000 miles oil and filter changes. I suggest Ford takes lessons from Mazda and COPY IT. I feel gutted for you buddy 😢
@paultasker77889 ай бұрын
Know someone whose Fiesta ecoboost has just failed at just 50k miles and 6 years of use. Needs whole new engine at £3500.
@vintagesteelgarage9 ай бұрын
Ouch
@krisbreach4376 Жыл бұрын
So would you say that good preventative maintenance would be to clean out the oil pick up on the oil pump?
@vintagesteelgarage Жыл бұрын
Yes that would be a good idea. However if you do find bits in the pickup it does mean the belt is breaking up and only a matter of time before the belt needs to be replaced.
@ColinWatters9 ай бұрын
Apparently it's important to use correct oil to prolong the belt.
@Reason4Termination10 ай бұрын
Glad I did not buy this version, and opted for the tried and tested 1.6 NA
@ouethojlkjn11 ай бұрын
I have heard that the turbo is suspect on these engines too for the same oil, starvation reasons…
@vintagesteelgarage11 ай бұрын
Yes it will be. All turbos need a very good oil supply as its a plain bearing ie no rollers or bearings so it really needs a health constant oil supply. This was was toast as well due to oil starvation.
@jameswilson67176 ай бұрын
@@vintagesteelgarageoil starvation from the oil pick up being block with particles of belt 👍🏻👍🏻
@cobbler4011 ай бұрын
More complicated than Morris A series engine or Ford 105E !
@vintagesteelgarage11 ай бұрын
I yes far too complicated for its on good. What was wrong with a wire to the coil and alternator. 😆
@davidbaker88546 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting this as I was looking at one for my sons first car. Not buying one of these now.
@vintagesteelgarage6 ай бұрын
Haha. Dont blame you.
@daquarius1222 Жыл бұрын
so a poorly maintained car goes boom, who would've guessed! xD ?
@vintagesteelgarage11 ай бұрын
Ironically the previous owner had just had it serviced. Obviously too late damage already done.
@Mr_Meowingtons Жыл бұрын
Leave it to ford to use a Belt exposed to oil. This is a major failure and i am expecting a class action lawsuit
@vintagesteelgarage Жыл бұрын
I'm sure they'll get out of it be saying the correct oil hasn't been used
@Mr_Meowingtons Жыл бұрын
@@vintagesteelgarage There's people out there that have had nothing but dealer oil chand they're still having problems..
@92aroncummings Жыл бұрын
Fancy doing the wet belt on my focus😂 Garage wants £1500
@vintagesteelgarage Жыл бұрын
TBH that's not a bad price if they do the job properly. Are you changing because it's due on service or because its started to get noisy? if noisy damage may already be done! If replaced properly garage should replace both internal belts, tensioner and clean oil pump pickup pipe new filter and oil. You need a torque multiplier to retorque the crank bolt which I don't have. Recon engine was £1500 inc VAT, plus oils, ,filters, spark plugs, 3 piece clutch, new turbo and other bits and pieces cost me about £2k not including labour. I would say it took about 20 hours. Luckily my time is free. or else bill could have been about £4k.
@stevieboy6286 Жыл бұрын
Probably not financially viable on older cars
@cobbler4011 ай бұрын
Is the belt made of gold ?
@Matty123333 ай бұрын
Cheapest I have seen is £990 but it's not economically viable on older cars
@billmcclean69869 ай бұрын
Why oh why if your a mechanic did you buy an Ecoboost
@vintagesteelgarage9 ай бұрын
Firstly I'm not mechanic. And secondly we bought it cheap and installed a recon engine which will easily out last our needs. Also it was also a fun project. What can I say I like a challenge. Next you'll be saying I shouldnt have bought a 911 because they all have Ims bearing failures. .
@banditcountry312 ай бұрын
Why bother....just get an engine..
@vintagesteelgarage2 ай бұрын
I did. Full recon.
@martinjackson565 Жыл бұрын
You need at £600 worth of tools to do a wet belt £900 worth if you buy the sealy Ford torque multiplier to undo and do up front pulley bolt and timing tools ⚒️
@vintagesteelgarage Жыл бұрын
Yes correct and when you factor that in that's why I went for a recon engine.