Hi Alex, just a small clarification. The onboard air compressor on the Rivian has it's own standalone compressor. The air suspension has it's own air supply.

There’s been a Lightning sitting in front of my Ford dealer for 4 months. I’ll give you 25,000 guesses why.

I love my massaging seats. Plenty of glove box space, center console is huge with 2 more USB ports. Heated & cooled front seats, heated rear seats. 9.6 kw power which includes the 240 voltage 30 amp 7200 watt twist lock receptical. 10 - 120 volt - 20 amp recepticals. Enough power to run a home that's daily usage is 30 kwh or less. 9600 watts will run a lot of appliances and 131 kwh battery will power those appliances for a long time.

I got the Lightning and have loved it. Love the ride, the Frunk is very practical and the ProPower with 240v is a game changer. Because I primarily do local city driving I’m getting over 260 miles in my standard range Lariat trim.

Good comparison, the bottom line for me is ford for a work truck and the Rivian for a pleasure truck.

My own money was on the line and I went with the F150, honestly could not be happier. The 80A charger comes with the extended range truck, so only had to pay for install. It is worth it. I have seen some Rivians around and their owners seem to love their choices too. So both great trucks.

I describe my R1T as a pickup, sports car and luxury car all in one. After 3 months, it’s awesome and whoever wakes up first wants to take it!

I have absolutely fallen in love with the rivian. I get mine in a few weeks. I like the company's vision, it fits in my garage, has gear guard, gear tunnel, variable air suspension, motors on each wheel, incredibly comfortable interior, exceptional handling and power, overall luxury feel, and it doesn't look like every other truck on the road. It is an amazing vehicle. People keep asking why you would buy from a new company when you could buy from Ford. All I have to say is that if this is the quality of their very first vehicle ever, then they have an amazing future ahead of them.

Wow! What a great video comparison! You’ve shared so much important info to help me with my decision between these two! Well done

This is thorough vehicle comparison I've ever seen. Ever. Thanks, Alex.

They are always promoting the Rivians on board air compression but never mentions the cfm so I'd image you can't run air tools. With the lightning you can plug a large 240 volt air compressor in and then even run a jack hammer if necessary.

This was a VERY thorough video and we really appreciate it! Don't take this the wrong way, but I would argue this video will be more relevant to EV buyers than it is now. As of right now, each of these vehicles is effectively unobtainium; the only difference is that the F150 is expensive unobtainium, whereas the Rivian is STUPID expensive unobtainium. In a couple of years we'll have a better idea of which company is ready build their model in quantity and at a price people can afford...that is if EITHER company ever achieves this goal. But I love the video!!

It’s a tough choice for sure. I love the rivian but I think I would choose the ford just because I know they gonna be around in 5-10 years

Ford and all manufacturers should MOVE the gear shifter to the collum or dash and save the middle area for drinks. The Tesla 3 and Y shifters are great.

I brought a R1T and love it! so much fun to drive!

One feature that I love on the F150 is aluminum body panels. Old trucks tend to be rusty due to rough use. I am not sure if Rivian uses steel or aluminum

Good comparison! Thanks!

Awesome breakdown

Alex, very helpful. What about price and fed tax credit. The Ford config would not be eligible? I have both reserved but need tax cred.

I have a Lightning (Platinum) and LOVE it. I do not regret my choice in any way.

I would love to see the same type of review between the ESQ 580 and the iX M60. I have both on order, haven't driven either, but keep going back and forth based on the different reviews. They are due in at the same time so I'll probably decide just based on the driving experience.

How about service availability? Do all Ford dealers handle repairs on the Lightning? There are very few Rivian service centers (22 in the US, with 5 in CA, but none in many states), so if you need to get that tonneau cover repaired, how easy will it be to do so? It sounds like there was a suspension recall that was a very easy fix, but if I have to drive 2 hours or more to get to a service center, it's not so convenient to get something fixed. I'm also concerned about Rivian's long-term viability, but Amazon's contract alone should keep them afloat while they build up their support network. I like the idea of the Rivian and what they did with it (except for those oval headlights), but my money would be on the Lightning. It's a great truck if you need a truck, especially for truck things that the F-150 has been the leader in for a good long time. There's definitely a draw for a truck like the Rivian, especially for those that have outgrown their Outbacks. The Rivian is a cool product, but it's way too new to gamble my hard-earned money on. As the Shark Tank investors say all the time, "what are you doing that the other companies can't do and squash you like a cockroach?" Ford has said that they're going to be building a new EV truck in Tennessee, and my guess is that it will be aimed at the same market as the Rivian that they are already (lightly) tapping into with the Maverick. The Bronco brand has off-road credibility, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if they came out with a Bronco-branded EV adventure vehicle in truck and SUV forms. I believe that if Ford thought Rivian was doing something they could not, they would have bought out the entire company and absorbed the R1T into their lineup. It's probably cheaper to compete with their own product offering and push Rivian into the history books. I hope the best for Rivian, but I think it's long-term survival is very questionable. At best, the Rivian is a 3-year lease to minimize its risks.

Really good

Nice reviews. The lightning wins hands down for me.

I've owned both and have sold the Ford as I like the Rivian better.

I contend that the F150 Lightning is better at being a work truck than the Rivian is at being a rock crawling go over anything machine given its break over angle. I trust the Lightning to keep the battery pack cool under duress and to save your back as you load and unload the frunk more than the R1T. Both great trucks but to power my house I choose Ford. 🎯

You like to say no glove box, but why isn't little compartment under the passenger seat not suitable for gloves or random papers that usually go in a glove box

Wow! No glove box and no XM radio. Stuff I would have never known, and a surprise. Where would you put the registration proof of insurance and the owners manual? Surely not in the armrest. Thanks for the review.

👏👏👏THANKS ALEX👏👏👏 HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY EVERYONE ✌️

0:15 is Hummer EV not on sale or luxury truck?

Bed size. if the Rivian had a bigger bed, maybe 6 foot, I think I’d like it better. But I went with the Lightning so I could fit my surfboards in the bed of the truck and secure them. I’m trying to keep sand etc. out of the cab.

Considering fords more established I’d go w the ford. The whole truck in the inside is more normal and you can at least rely on physical buttons for some things

Alex, When are we going to get a practical electric work truck with a genuine 8 foot bed?🤔 Even with that temptingly smooth-riding independent rear suspension, I still contend that child seats 4:44 are supposed to be mounted upright and inside the cab rather than on their sides in the truck bed 😂

Where is the video of you selling both of these?

Wow , Rivian battery drain when idle is unbelievable.

The Rivian is a luxury SUV or CUV with the roof removed from the third row and storage. It is not a pickup truck, it is a toy. Don't get into the Rivian with your oil-stained jeans after working on a farm vehicle - that faux suede will never clean. The Lightning is most of the way to the same impracticality, but it has some working truck features. Neither is useful for me. I can't take either to the gravel pit and have them drop a front-end load of gravel in the bed. I can't put 72 sheets of 1/2" by 4' by 8' sheet rock in either of them. I can't put a cord of wood in either of them I have done all of these things with a 1977 Ford F-250. Sure, I got 12mpg whether I was driving loaded or empty. But I did so for 350,000 miles and I doubt these will last as long. When it comes to carbon emissions, it won't be until these reach 60,000 miles that these two vehicles will have produced equal carbon as my old F-250 at that mileage. The carbon released in the production and shipping starts them at 20 tons already sent into the atmosphere. If you add the power generation to charge the Rivian or Lightning they will only be 20% less by the time they hit 100,000 miles. Just getting the materials for their batteries requires mining and processing 250 tons of minerals and rock. I'm sure these are great for dilettantes and faux environmentalists - but not for me.

Nice video - Thanks

What I would like to know and nobody is addressing this with EVs is can you flat tow them? Are they a good TOAD?

Neither, I already own an F150 XLT ICE. If I had to choose an electric, I'll wait for the Cybertruck and check out the Silverado and the RAM revolution. But if Cybertruck lives up to hype, it's cyber all the way. I've owned Fords, Chryslers and Chevys/GMCs.

Alex, Hi. Did you note that the Lighting has nema 5-20 plugs. 120 volt and 20 amp breakers so they can run any 120 volt tool as where the Rivian oy has nema 5-15 plugs, 120 volt and 15 amps. Rivian really should have made the plugs 20 amps and should have a nema 14-50, 220 volt 50 amp plug for boondocking. The Lighting can be plugged in charging while using the 120 and 240 volts plugs.

Engine start stop button ??? 🙂 LOL

I will take the Rivian all day every day. That being said, I want the SUV.

I can't understand why Rivian doesn't use regenerative braking when braking. I love the lightnings one pedal driving. Regenerative braking is so good with that. I never touch the brake pedal any more except for moving the shifter.

My reservation for the Lighting open up but the pro version is now 10K more than it previous come out and you can't even get it. It is no longer affordable.

The Rivian is a great truck if you dont need a truck. A 4.5 foot bed is an open trunk.

The price comparison is not accurate. For the specs you mentioned (835 hp) the minimum you’d need to spend if you were to buy a Rivian R1T TODAY would be $87,000

Always feel people driving pick ups are compensating like me lol

I'd venture to say that the lightning will get better range in the city because of fords one pedal driving regenerative braking.

That vampire drain is unacceptable. Using ~30kw of capacity in 2 weeks doing nothing? Someone needs to do the math and see if that 30% efficiency gets cancelled out because of this. That drain probably happens whether you use it or not so you have to put it back in the battery pack somehow.

Went to pick up my platinum lightning last night these seats are no longer built. Which is a load of crap since the platnium upgrade was 10k+ all ford did was give a $300 credit. Terrible from a customer retention and satisfaction perspective.

The front end of the Rivian looks like a street cleaner, the rest looks really good.

It blows my mind to think that someone would spend $80,000 to buy a gadget loaded truck from a company that has never built a truck before when they could spend a similar amount to buy a truck, perhaps not as gadget filled, from a company that has built millions of trucks and has the know how that is only gained from experience. Where is the dealer you can take your Rivian to when you have problems and you certainly will have them? I can take my F-150 to my local dealer who has a thoroughly equipped service department with highly trained service specialists.

The problem is when these trucks start to age, who is going to do the repairs? At least with ford you have the whole dealer network at your disposal, and with rivian.. well, as a brand new start up and no dealer support, plus with already having that massive recall… I’d put my $$ on the ford. I’m curious to see which one Alex is planning on keeping!

Rivian

Silverado EV with +400 miles of range!

Funny how that "under 40K" Lightning Pro now stickers out at $55K (with no options added), plus requires another $10-15K dealer extortion fee to actually drive it home. I'll keep driving my ICE F150 Lariat until Toyota starts selling a hybrid Tacoma in a year or so, buy it for $20-25K less, then own it for far less than these overpriced PEV trucks.

I would go with Ford.....all the way.

The Rivian truck bed is all plastic . It definitely is not the hard working truck bed . I feel like if your going to use your truck as a truck , I put all kinds of stuff in my truck. And feel like a plastic bed is not going to do it . At least in Texas will turn white and crack Also serious money for plastic

Doesn’t Ford own a big chunk of Rivian? Maybe less of a rivalry and more of a collaborative plan

Already know without watching the video. If you want an off road vehicle than the Rivian. If you want a full size pickup for local use with a front trunk that's way to get things in and out. Familiar and like an F150 then the lightning is for you.

When my money was on the line. I bought a 2022 Powerboost Platinum .. Trucks luxury trucks are worthless as EVs. Sub $50k EV Truck makes sense for work. Anywhere north of that, they're not worth it. Get a Decent Sports car/compact EV if you're spending North of $75k

Am I the only one who cares about the actual ability to use these as 4x4s? I wouldn't buy an F150 Lightning to see how well it could rock crawl but doing it on a Rivian is new and exciting. Frankly the Range Rover is too expensive and the Grand Cherokee is a bit underwhelming when you have the 4-Door Wrangler sitting right there in show room. You don't see too many 2022 Grand Cherokees out in hard spots for a reason. Punctuating the review comparing it as the "truck" version of these I think misses the point. I feel like in spirit it's better to compare the R1T to a Gladiator Rubicon than it is a truck version of the Grand Cherokee and Ranger Rover. If you were an alien without human emotion you'd find the latter logical but the human emotion side of me just sees it as a very poor cross-shopping reference. The R1T is a more compelling off-roader on many levels than the Hummer EV which set out with the specific goal of being the most "ultimate off-road machine ever" and is being sold starting at $70k for the next few years instead of $115k+ that the Hummer goes for. The F150 is the better work truck, hands down. If that's what you need in your life in a light duty truck, that's what you should get. For almost any other application, including very picky off-roaders, the R1T is an absolute steal @ $70k for the quad-motor and will probably be equally as so when it's $70k for the dual motor. The things the Ford does better is not worth the $90k you're going to have to pay to get that trim. Not over the advantages the Rivian offers.

I’m completely convinced that I don’t want a EV truck. 🔥🤮

They both have problems. If I were to pick ford would be my choice

Cybertruck all the way. Maybe by the time it comes out, not only will it flot... maybe it will fly!!! Haha 😄. Tesla owner since 2018 model 3 and 2022 model Y.

Don't forget the rivian has a steering wheel part recall.... ✌️

I have a preorder on both and plan to keep the rivian. Only lariat available and for 80k the rivian is the best all around pick IMO. If I could get a pro, I would stick with that, but not in the cards.

The fords just boring af

Let me make it simple, the Rivian is worthless as a truck because it’s too small.