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@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo Жыл бұрын
I am sweating!!!
@psyphonyxaudio
@psyphonyxaudio Жыл бұрын
Kudos to you!!!
@IronHorsey3
@IronHorsey3 Жыл бұрын
so concerned for you, bruh. 😂
@keithhazley3745
@keithhazley3745 Жыл бұрын
You should be
@robk5745
@robk5745 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha, he’s gonna love it Thomas
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 Жыл бұрын
BRILLIANT THOMAS 🤗👍💚💚💚
@alanm.thornton4055
@alanm.thornton4055 Жыл бұрын
Man, you gotta give Thomas props on incorporating a fair bit of new or very rare technology into an integrated tube amp: truly is unique!!! And a Black Ice Fusion integrated?! I am SUPER curious to hear this, the Black Ice, Wellsington, and LTA!!!!
@keithhorton4990
@keithhorton4990 Жыл бұрын
That comparison would be amazing!
@FeedScrn
@FeedScrn Жыл бұрын
Your review went over the different modes in detail- without glossing over. I love that. Wish that more AV / HiFi equipment reviews were like this one.
@robk5745
@robk5745 Жыл бұрын
Thomas built an amazing product! So excited you tubers are reviewing it now
@christyscanyon8163
@christyscanyon8163 Жыл бұрын
Did he really build it?
@robk5745
@robk5745 Жыл бұрын
@@christyscanyon8163 well obviously not putting it together himself but it’s his company and his design. The guys at Doge audio built it.
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 Жыл бұрын
Beast of a Tube Integrated amp ! So excited to hear your impressions ! Don't forget to hit the like button Pep !!
@mr.hitachi797
@mr.hitachi797 Жыл бұрын
Impressive and smart design! Can't wait to hear your impressions on this one!
@davidbailey6350
@davidbailey6350 Жыл бұрын
That was the best explanation I’ve heard so far regarding this tube amp. Great job!
@Newrecordday2013
@Newrecordday2013 Жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@aaronlam2584
@aaronlam2584 Жыл бұрын
This video is very well shot and explained in detail. After watching your video , I find that it is very easy to operate . Great job 😊👍
@NemoPropaganda
@NemoPropaganda Жыл бұрын
100% correct dude, I'm not afraid to admit I've been intimidated by tubes for a long time because of the whole biasing thing. Great overview! Like.
@1mctous
@1mctous Жыл бұрын
Thomas explained the A setting as analytical or sharply focused, which might mean higher negative feedback. The B setting likely has lower feedback. BTW the tone controls are narrow EQ bands with +/- 4 dB adjustment ranges.
@Buddythunder1
@Buddythunder1 Жыл бұрын
Wow, beautiful operation. Really feature-packed looking amp!
@andrewsmith3121
@andrewsmith3121 Жыл бұрын
Yes, the Doge 10 (that's Doesh, not Dodge) has the same functionality. I have the MKIII, based on a review and recommendation from Thomas. I like that it also has two Subwoofer connections, which many amps do not have. The tweaks that Thomas worked with Doge to incorporate into his version are cool too, like the tone control. Doge now is onto version 4, but I think the Gallion still has some differences., especially with some of the internal components It really is an impressive amp, and the best tube amp I have ever had. For me, it has the sound I like, and compared to McIntosh or Cary Audio and other similar, it's a fraction of the price.
@2ChannelListening
@2ChannelListening Жыл бұрын
That is brilliant. Much success to Thomas. I am glad you get to review the TS120SE Question: running that amp in Class A, with so little breathing room under that wood shelf, how are the temperatures? Thanks for what you do Ron. I cannot wait to see how you finish off your new space.
@Spock105
@Spock105 Жыл бұрын
The back for me is far more impressive than the front because bias setting you can find on a few amps . The front is only special because of the tone controls ( don't like the knobs ...should have been silver metal ones and cone shaped ) The back is where it gets interesting , and don't understand why the official website even does not have a picture of that . There is a TAPE OUT ....now that is unique for a tube int amp , now I can hook up my ReVox reel-to-reels & it has a SUB OUT which you can use as mono or stereo .
@psyphonyxaudio
@psyphonyxaudio Жыл бұрын
LOVE to see this here!!! Thanks Ron for taking on a product like this from within the community of enthusiasts / YT !! I would love to see this inter-play between creators more than an advertising stream for the meglo-million dollar giants of production. ( imo ) Also .. I love your rack! built custom or bought as is?
@Newrecordday2013
@Newrecordday2013 Жыл бұрын
Built it! Thanks man!
@psyphonyxaudio
@psyphonyxaudio Жыл бұрын
@@Newrecordday2013 - NICE!! .. yah .. I really like the hardware imlpimentation and space it creates for each level. Very nice. =)
@JohnScheppler
@JohnScheppler Жыл бұрын
Great job with the tube biasing, that makes that so much easier to do.
@NosEL34
@NosEL34 Жыл бұрын
It's almost like it was designed by someone who actually listens to a lot of music and knows what we need and want to make using a tube amplifier as easy and practical as any amplifier out on the market. I wish my tube amp had these features...and on a remote 😲😳
@themarklar8759
@themarklar8759 Жыл бұрын
I own the Doge 10 Integrated that is very similar to Thomas's creation. I love it! And I'm sure this new one is great as well. Good luck Thomas, I'm sure it'll be a raging success!
@1mctous
@1mctous Жыл бұрын
What's the price in DogeCoin, Thomas?
@joenovak6393
@joenovak6393 Жыл бұрын
Hi Ron, the "Auto" functions for Tube BAIS, Class A and Class AB switching are a Plus for Galion and maybe Thomas has learned from PrimaLuna EVO line that is the real deal on "Adaptive AutoBias", Triode/Ultra-Linear Switching seamlessly in real time (from remote) and Bad Tube Indicators thru Adaptive AutoBias that puts the Amp into protection mode (no service call), replace with a New Tube and you're off. Another PrimaLuna feature, you can run the Amp with EL34, 6550, KT66, KT77, KT88, KT90, KT120 and KT150's and if you like (not sure why) put any Tube into one of 8 slots (4 Tubes per Mono Design = 8 Tubes) and the Amp would AutoBias and run. I look forward to your review on Galion TS120SE.
@patbarr1351
@patbarr1351 Жыл бұрын
Well, no I've never heard of this brand (maybe it had not been available in California). It looks stylish, well thought out & solid. The pricing was a bit confusing, since he sets up a "deposit" before final payment, but finished product pricing seems reasonable. (I was fortunate to grab a Primaluna amp at a closeout price & have been happy with it for many years.)
@joenovak6393
@joenovak6393 Жыл бұрын
The PrimaLuna is in another league to Real Auto BAIS and Tube failure mode and Sound with a selection of Tubes.
@latle111
@latle111 Жыл бұрын
AYE RON. Watching this video rn. Thanks
@AudioElectronicsChicago
@AudioElectronicsChicago Жыл бұрын
I like it, the remote control is a big plus
@charleskatz2606
@charleskatz2606 Жыл бұрын
It's all brilliant - makes me ask if Thomas is a engineer or just an enthusiast who knows what he wants + me I just would add balanced circuit plus one xlr and two unbalanced outs but then it would be my dream machine
@MrRonnmaui
@MrRonnmaui Жыл бұрын
Very cool demo! I have been waiting for solid reviews on the Thomas tank amp. Thanks Ron
@pkats9093
@pkats9093 Жыл бұрын
It’s like the Swiss Army knife of tube amps. Inspector gadget would be very proud! I would love to get my grubby little hands on one of them
@billsistrunk6058
@billsistrunk6058 Жыл бұрын
One thing I find odd about this amp after reading the manual is that you should not lift it from the side panels as they are wood and attached with small screws and might break off. I think it would be extremely awkward especially with tubes inserted to move the amp around if one had to grasp it from the front where all the knobs and controls are and the back where all of the inputs etc. are. I suppose if it was always placed on an open shelf top with nothing above or on the side this wouldn’t be as big an issue. Just seems like an odd compromise when so much thought was given to the other aspects of the amp. With all of the space age adhesives and fastening techniques available seems like this could’ve been avoided.
@lawchoongseng789
@lawchoongseng789 Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for your review. 😊
@simongrove3276
@simongrove3276 Жыл бұрын
Ron, I think you need to do a little more research as you indicated, the features you so admire are by Mr. Zey LIU of Doge Audio and are a standard feature of their Doge 10 amplifier. Credit to Thomas, he took the Doge 10 and had it tweaked to his requirements, but it's still a Doge 10. Doge have also made some nice improvements on their new version around bias class and operations. For all the China haters, why didn't you come up with this design and quality build? This product and the Doge products are very clever and innovative, all credit to the original designer, regardless of origin.
@phillipmorris9847
@phillipmorris9847 Жыл бұрын
Awesome, ty can't wait
@pnichols6500
@pnichols6500 Жыл бұрын
I kinda like using the meter and manually biasing the tubes. Like the meter over LED'S. But doesn't mean I don't want this!
@luminiferous1960
@luminiferous1960 Жыл бұрын
If one is OK with electronic circuits automatically adjusting the bias, why not just implement a continuous real-time adaptive autobias circuit like some other tube amps do? PrimaLuna, Mystere, and VAC are well known tube amp companies that offer some tube amps with such adaptive autobias circuits. The Galion TS120SE's bias method seems like an unnecessarily complicated mash-up between manual bias adjustment and adaptive autobias. Perhaps one could call it semiautomatic bias adjustment. To be clear, when I say autobias I am not referring to the cathode bias technique that some manufacturers call auto bias or self bias. As detailed below, there are drawbacks to the cathode bias technique which makes manual bias adjustment as well as real-time adaptive autobias adjustment preferable to cathode bias. The most common cathode bias implementation passes the cathode current through a resistor connected between the cathode and the negative side of the plate voltage supply. The cathode current through this resistor causes the desired voltage drop across the resistor and places the cathode at a positive dc voltage equal in magnitude to the negative grid bias voltage required. The grid circuit puts the grid at zero volts dc relative to negative side of the plate voltage supply, causing the grid voltage to be negative with respect to the cathode by the required amount. Directly heated cathode circuits connect the cathode bias resistor to the center tap of the filament transformer secondary or to the center tap of a low resistance connected across the filament. PrimaLuna points out that although the cathode bias method works, a large amount of power is wasted as heat generated by the current through the resistor, which reduces the power that the amp can provide to the speakers. PrimaLuna states that an amp that has 35 watts when you use adjustable bias will typically give you 20 watts with cathode bias. Over 33% of the amp’s power goes up in heat through a huge resistor. Real-time adaptive autobiasing uses sensors to constantly monitor the performance of each power tube. That data is supplied to active circuitry that adapts instantly and continuously to keep the tube within its linear operating tolerances, regardless of the age or condition of the tube. With real-time adaptive autobiasing there is no power sucking, heat generating resistor in the cathode current circuit. The real-time adaptive autobiasing technique has been around for about two decades. PrimaLuna first incorporated it into some of its products in 2003.
@gordonlesforis772
@gordonlesforis772 Жыл бұрын
Thomas has built a fantastic tube amplifier.
@dennishill290
@dennishill290 Жыл бұрын
Black with chrome buttons...looks ✨️..classy...!
@jurgengrau1840
@jurgengrau1840 Жыл бұрын
You can see a lot of thought went into this amplifier. With the R and D how much thought went into longevity/ reliability. Time will tell of course but with complexity can come higher failure rates. Not saying this is the case but maybe Thomas can chime in on how these were designed for reliability as well. 10:08
@WS-gs6sf
@WS-gs6sf Жыл бұрын
Why not have it auto bias when the mode is changed? That is a lot of rigamarole that an MCU should be doing.
@ronniefranks4351
@ronniefranks4351 Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. It could be designed to perform bias in the background. Most people like gadgets though. It’s interesting but all I want to do is turn my tube amp on and off.
@WS-gs6sf
@WS-gs6sf Жыл бұрын
The term Japanese term Poka-yoke can refer to any behavior-shaping constraint designed into a process to prevent incorrect operation by the user.
@franknelissen8041
@franknelissen8041 Жыл бұрын
Could be that it would be too costly to develop and implement that technology into this amp?
@ronniefranks4351
@ronniefranks4351 Жыл бұрын
@@franknelissen8041 I seriously doubt it would take much. I tend to think it was designed to appeal to people who like gadgetry and find it unique, which it certainly is. It would likely take fewer parts and perhaps be slightly less costly if it were completely automated. But, that would make it less unique and likely dampen its appeal somewhat.
@franknelissen8041
@franknelissen8041 Жыл бұрын
@@ronniefranks4351 could be that it is easy to design. But since it’s based on the Doge 10 they just copied and pasted that existing design most likely. I agree with you that maybe some people like all the button touching but it just looks “unnecessarily complicated” and it makes it so easy to mess up the right order of button presses.
@jamestorres4705
@jamestorres4705 Жыл бұрын
How does this compare to the Wilsenton R8?
@aroach337
@aroach337 Жыл бұрын
Love it. But why not have it bias automatically at startup? Why not have the single press of the class button enter "change mode" and auto-bias with one click. It feels performative to have multiple steps for a sequence that should not be altered.
@edguyrocks5865
@edguyrocks5865 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the manual says, but I'm wandering what fixed bias it sets it to for either A/AB? Coming from a guitarist, to bias my amps you'd plugin a tube sockets or bias points if the amp has them, then adjust Milliamps to certain range for certain powertubes/EL34/6L6/KT88/etc. Very cool product. Cannot wait to hear it. Rock on man!
@ja8020
@ja8020 Жыл бұрын
Great intro to Thomas's amp Ron. Great to see your content again. How is the audio man cave coming along? :)
@LeoRousseau
@LeoRousseau Жыл бұрын
That's a very good looking amp Thomas! The auto bias is really cool as well! Nice work! So are you going to do an Oprah give away?😜 Smash that like button guys! 👊
@carlsitler9071
@carlsitler9071 Жыл бұрын
Truly amazing.
@user-ec8ix7ms8u
@user-ec8ix7ms8u Жыл бұрын
I saw your doppelgänger on dirt tracker you tube channel
@sjohnston1487
@sjohnston1487 Жыл бұрын
Good info. Like the cap!
@AUDIO.and.SCOTCH
@AUDIO.and.SCOTCH Жыл бұрын
Looks beautiful.
@User_not_found_403
@User_not_found_403 Жыл бұрын
LMAO - you want to make Thomas wait. aahahhahah
@ClydeM7
@ClydeM7 5 ай бұрын
Would love to get your take on comparing this w/ the BlackIce F35....
@NeilBlanchard
@NeilBlanchard Жыл бұрын
Very smart, indeed!
@markcarrington8565
@markcarrington8565 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff, Ron. Anyone else think the front panel aesthetics hark back to the NAD 3020?
@Lobo243
@Lobo243 Жыл бұрын
Super cool the way that amp do Bias automatically
@alexdenton6586
@alexdenton6586 Жыл бұрын
For those watching this : Klipsch or Triangle ?
@philbarone4603
@philbarone4603 5 ай бұрын
I take reviews with a big grain of salt after I bought those POS Tekton speakers especially when reviewers are profiting from them.
@isiahbethel5956
@isiahbethel5956 Жыл бұрын
You can keep it
@mightybenaiah9076
@mightybenaiah9076 Жыл бұрын
The sound quality will not be an issue. In this day and age of quality parts and tested designs coupled with Chinese labor, you could build a sonic masterpiece for upwards of 6 grand.
@1mctous
@1mctous Жыл бұрын
Most Chi-Fi tube amps cut corners on both parts and design. Find the ones like Doge who cut fewer.
@truman4956
@truman4956 Жыл бұрын
I’m very proud of Thomas shifting from reviewer to manufacturer. This is built by Doge for Thomas?
@larsv6144
@larsv6144 Жыл бұрын
“Pretty soon” kinda past already. Will you post your follow up any time soon???
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 Жыл бұрын
THANKS RON, FOR SHARING THIS AND MAKING THOMAS SWEAT 😅,…a little 😁💚💚💚
@olimphus26
@olimphus26 Жыл бұрын
Please review the quicksilver audio integrated amplifier (also their headphone amplifier if you can)
@BillyKueekSG
@BillyKueekSG 10 ай бұрын
I’m wondering if I can use the Hifiman Susvara headphones directly to the speakers’ output? Also, I intend to get a pair of bookshelves in my small room so I can use this amp as well. If so, which speakers would be recommended? My room size is only 4.25 L x 3.15 W x 2.48 H in meters (13’11” x 10’4” x 8’1”) with a work desk at one end and 2 rows of bookshelves (30cm / 11.8” depth) along the length. Please give me your recommendations.
@uterpia
@uterpia Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@don7680
@don7680 Жыл бұрын
Nice amp. Changes in wattage? How about just saying power, which would be proper.
@1mctous
@1mctous Жыл бұрын
In class A, the tubes operate between class AB push-pull and single-ended class A. This lowers the output impedance and thus increases the current.
@crazyprayingmantis5596
@crazyprayingmantis5596 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't you just have it auto bias whenever you switch amp types? Or Do away with the "Change" button completely and just press the bias button after you switch from A to AB? Seems like a step or 2 could be bypassed, but I know nothing about how this stuff works and what's necessary
@eduardoquintana3504
@eduardoquintana3504 Жыл бұрын
Hola, a question please, how long do the tubes last approximately in time? gracias from Chile
@kenthobbs9527
@kenthobbs9527 Жыл бұрын
BuTTon!!!
@SathishKumar-tk4qx
@SathishKumar-tk4qx Жыл бұрын
Is there tube grill cover for protection for this amplifier. Please let me know.
@dingskydongsky
@dingskydongsky Жыл бұрын
open it up !
@markbroadheaf1593
@markbroadheaf1593 Жыл бұрын
It’s a Doge 10 with a few fancy caps
@danmichell7516
@danmichell7516 Жыл бұрын
just noticed your gear stand is there a video on it ?
@stonefree1911
@stonefree1911 Жыл бұрын
I want one.
@focalfan6324
@focalfan6324 Жыл бұрын
Shout out to Thomas and shout out to your beard. You have special genes mine won’t exceed 3 cms.
@DJ_BROBOT
@DJ_BROBOT Жыл бұрын
Om not gonna lie as impressive as the features set and ITS COST is this amp isn't a looker for me..and I love Thomas too, but it looks like a plain in my system
@van94weightlossjourney
@van94weightlossjourney Жыл бұрын
I’m gonna work harder and eat more ramen to get a Galinon SE.
@jianboo
@jianboo Жыл бұрын
Now available in Amazon 😄 ?
@michelcouture7026
@michelcouture7026 Жыл бұрын
Why is the bias not automatic?
@fredfungalspore
@fredfungalspore 6 ай бұрын
HOW do you Bias the 4 front small tubes i can adjust on my Cayin amp you didn't mention it
@Newrecordday2013
@Newrecordday2013 6 ай бұрын
Preamp tubes don’t need to be biased.
@PP-nh1lv
@PP-nh1lv Жыл бұрын
So why do you want to go through all that trouble switching from A to A/B. Sorry, I'm not a tube guy, so what's the benefit?
@hificave
@hificave Жыл бұрын
A to AB is amplification. You can switch from class A or class AB amplification. Two different sound signatures allows for great flexibility depending on your tastes or mood.
@PP-nh1lv
@PP-nh1lv Жыл бұрын
@@hificave OK, I see, (I think?) thanks!
@DynissRainer
@DynissRainer Жыл бұрын
You don’t have to be a tube guy. A versus AB is even more common with solid state amplifiers. The greatest usual benefit of AB over A is simply the ability to increase the watts (output). If you want more output power from this amplifier, you will choose AB. If you listen at low volume and/or desire the (usual) tonal benefit of class A, then you will choose A.
@PP-nh1lv
@PP-nh1lv Жыл бұрын
@@DynissRainer Thanks for that Dy, I've never heard class A either way.🙃
@edsonricardo5359
@edsonricardo5359 11 ай бұрын
É o Doge 10 modificado. OEM.
@peregrinodisastrado
@peregrinodisastrado Жыл бұрын
Hey man! What the heck?! Weren't you supposed to shave? ;)
@Newrecordday2013
@Newrecordday2013 Жыл бұрын
This is a day after shaving it off.
@zenfishbike
@zenfishbike Жыл бұрын
Its But-ton, not Buh-un
@kenboydart
@kenboydart Жыл бұрын
Very nice machine, but, can you have one if you also have a Cat ?🐈‍⬛
@larsv6144
@larsv6144 Жыл бұрын
We are waiting…and Thomas is sweating…..
@davidlang4546
@davidlang4546 Жыл бұрын
Just another amp for a mere $4k. Not sure what these guys did make all their money but don't know many middle class people who can just drop 3-10k on equipment all the time
@dennishill290
@dennishill290 Жыл бұрын
Never hurts to be...biased...lol..!
@schemkesa
@schemkesa Жыл бұрын
lol, explain that to my wife, what are you waiting for???
@Shorby99EK
@Shorby99EK Жыл бұрын
Shame that Freya N review will probably never see the light of day
@Newrecordday2013
@Newrecordday2013 Жыл бұрын
What makes you say that?
@Shorby99EK
@Shorby99EK Жыл бұрын
@@Newrecordday2013 They discontinued that preamp. It’s being sold now at 599.00 until there gone.
@larsv6144
@larsv6144 Жыл бұрын
Stop teasing ;-) don’t make Thomas sweat and suffer ;-)
@toddhupp
@toddhupp Жыл бұрын
interested in the differences with negative feedback.no feedback is generally viewed as favorable by purists.
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 Жыл бұрын
Or you can get a prima Luna that will just Auto bias for you:-) just saying
@Newrecordday2013
@Newrecordday2013 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been meaning to reach out them and check out their amps.
@michael-randall
@michael-randall Жыл бұрын
The word button actually has T's in it. Just saying
@TheObserver567
@TheObserver567 Жыл бұрын
too rich for me. if i was at that class of income, i would absolutely pick one up.
@robh9079
@robh9079 Жыл бұрын
Hope you've got a porch to go with that beard ;-)
@JC.LC.
@JC.LC. Жыл бұрын
Nice. Let's see the guts...
@reestyfarts
@reestyfarts Жыл бұрын
Too complicated. I'll stick with my Red Dragons.
@2501mandala
@2501mandala Жыл бұрын
This appears to be basically a slightly tweaked Doge 10 with a fancier French name for 2x the price. Pass.
@Newrecordday2013
@Newrecordday2013 Жыл бұрын
I actually feel like this might be a fair criticism without knowing what the tweaks are and what all has been upgraded. I’ll figure it all out and report back.
@2501mandala
@2501mandala Жыл бұрын
@@Newrecordday2013 FWIW, according to Doge, the Doge 10 is 95% identical to the Galion. My guess is some capacitors got upgraded based on what’s highlighted on the Galion product page of their website. Worth the price differential? Not to me.
@kimngan9581
@kimngan9581 3 ай бұрын
dịch
@hanschristeler2392
@hanschristeler2392 Жыл бұрын
This amp has nothing on primaluna amps/preamps. They auto bias almost any tube you put in it and you don’t have to do anything! They’ll also tell you if a tube is bad or not.
@veritasfan11
@veritasfan11 10 ай бұрын
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