China Lake 40mm Pump Action Grenade Launcher

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Possibly the coolest small arm used by the United States in the Vietnam War was the China Lake 40mm pump action grenade launcher. Only 24 of these were made, each fitted by hand. Of those, 2 went to MACVSOG, 2 to Army Force Recon, and the remaining 20 the the Navy SEALS. They were used as an ambush initiation weapon, with 4 rounds of rapid-fire 40mm HE grenades available.
Only five original examples survive today; four in US museums and military institutions and one in a museum in Saigon. An effort was made in 2004 to build reproductions, it is one of those used in this video. This project was not ultimately successful, but did lead to a very interesting series of events with the Airtronic company and the US Marine Corps, which will be detailed in a following video. Special thanks to Dutch Hillenburg and Kevin Dockery for making this video possible!
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@johnth3mighty877 3 жыл бұрын

“No it doesn’t slam fire. I know people are going to ask” He knows us too well.

@DamazViccar 3 жыл бұрын

To Gun Jesus we are an open book. Bless us all!

@anthonywilliams379 3 жыл бұрын

Bet at least one special forces guy tried to modify it to slam fire

@pneumaticpanther 3 жыл бұрын

Follow up question. Does it have a bayonet lug?

@johnth3mighty877 3 жыл бұрын

@@pneumaticpanther these are the questions we need answers to

@sawyerawr5783 3 жыл бұрын

@@anthonywilliams379 I mean you gotta know they did right?

@pbs1516 3 жыл бұрын

For shotguns, people always discuss between 12 gauge and 20 gauge, whereas the only reasonable answer is 40mm.

@grate9 3 жыл бұрын

What about 8 gauge?

@juanordonezgalban2278 3 жыл бұрын

This can't fire buckshoot sadly. Althought there might be timed fuse stuff yo blow stuff behind cover nowadays 🤔

@prouddegenerates9056 3 жыл бұрын

@@grate9 4 gauge wall gun from the hip!

@johnm3907 3 жыл бұрын

You would be better off with a 410.

@michaelmartin8446 3 жыл бұрын

@@juanordonezgalban2278 The m203 does with an aluminum tube. They're anti-personnel rounds. I've personally fired one, and will say that they're a lot rougher on your shoulder than a 12 gauge. I assume the m-79 had similar rounds.

@FallenCause 3 жыл бұрын

"But getting the China Lake? That's not the hard part. It's letting go."

@kovacsnovak6745 3 жыл бұрын

Ah yes Dead money.

@Ken-no5ip 3 жыл бұрын

40mm grenade launcher

@seamusslymon4691 3 жыл бұрын

Holorifle is my baby

@4skintim962 3 жыл бұрын

That dlc is all about letting go.... the Sierra Madre letting go of it’s 37 gold bars that is

@tuoy1 3 жыл бұрын

@@4skintim962 naw, just place all the bars at the door near the elevator .

@Kaarl_Mills 3 жыл бұрын

TIL that Specialist Zach is just as qualified as a god damn SEAL with 40mm grenade launchers. Never underestimate the determination of a small arms repairman with nothing to do

@somerandomguy8491 3 жыл бұрын

A man of culture I see

@jacobparker5358 2 жыл бұрын

Nice freaking reference

@gmailquinn 2 жыл бұрын

Yes Mikeburnfire fans unite

@SoulKiller7Eternal 2 жыл бұрын

@@gmailquinn "I wanted a grenade launcher, so I had a grenade launcher."

@frds_skce 2 жыл бұрын

We stan specialist Zach

@user-ns3vs3bp3e 3 жыл бұрын

Ian “It does not slam fire” The entire audience “yeah but what if it did...”

@anna_arw6006 3 жыл бұрын

"Be a lot cooler if it did."

@googletristinthefoxngamer4709 3 жыл бұрын

Just as long it doesn't jam in a way it accidentally trigger the grenade in a way that could end badly 😅😅😅😅

@GENERICNICK-kj4lm 3 жыл бұрын

Pocket artillery

@mavrickmiller2755 3 жыл бұрын

@@anna_arw6006 is that a Dazed and Confused reference? 😅

@C4VEM4NL4WYER 3 жыл бұрын

insert matthew mcconaughey's be a lot cooler if you did gif.

@TomElliottJackson 3 жыл бұрын

The disappointment in his voice, "they're grenades, just use the trigger"

@M1tjakaramazov 3 жыл бұрын

More like the voice of resentful reason... 😅

@jeffreydahmer3995 3 жыл бұрын

He sounds sad that he had to say that lmao

@therugburnz 3 жыл бұрын

He is just making sure you know it is not a toy and should only be used for its intended purpose. It is a tool. A quite cool tool !

@Gojiro7 3 жыл бұрын

it sounded more like the tone of "guys, its a grenade launcher, you dont wanna be slam firing something that blows up"

@dethklokicksbutt 3 жыл бұрын

That jab at Sons of Guns too 😂

@Helios8170 3 жыл бұрын

"It does not slamfire." "Just pull the trigger each time." I know good and damn well slamfiring this thing is a bad idea. I want to do it anyway.

@charliethedoomslayer2793 3 жыл бұрын

Let the vietnamese trees taste some slam fired grenades oh yeah!!!

@mrkeogh 3 жыл бұрын

It's nice to have the option...

@whytho2109 3 жыл бұрын

you wake up in a hospital to find your arms amputated

@BlueLightningHawk 3 жыл бұрын

@@whytho2109 But luckily you have been hand picked (pun intended) to enter a program for some high tech cybernetic augmentation. Cybernam 1967. China Lake arm augmentation? Yeah we got those too.

@michaelmckinnon1591 3 жыл бұрын

@@whytho2109 and legs

@dionysus6892 3 жыл бұрын

I could not imagine the abject horror of being in a firefight, in the Vietnamese jungle, and your grenade launcher suddenly coming apart in two pieces in your own hands.

@theglacier3367 3 жыл бұрын

Yeaahh... they really should have made that trigger guard out of a sturdier material given the design. Or had a secondary retaining mechanism.

@FS2K4Pilot 3 жыл бұрын

TheGlacier Make it out of steel. Who cares if the gun is two ounces heavier?

@Adam-qv2bd 2 жыл бұрын

@@FS2K4Pilot - Or Steel and aluminum, a mixture. Having it all aluminum worries me, not only is it flexible and prone to bending. It doesn't have a long service life.

@Morbus47 2 жыл бұрын

*Trees start laughing at your misfortune*

@tcuegonbear 2 жыл бұрын

True, but not nearly as horrifying as being on the receiving end of those first few rounds.

@scooterking136 3 жыл бұрын

“It does not slamfire, I know people are gonna ask this” “Just pull the trigger every time. They’re grenades. Pull the trigger every time” Ian, you are a blessing.

@v1_rotate638 3 жыл бұрын

He sounded so disappointed in us when he said it too 😂😂

@foxtrotdelta225 3 жыл бұрын

@@v1_rotate638 true but imagine, what if it did slamfire... just saying

@scooterking136 3 жыл бұрын

@@foxtrotdelta225 would be pretty cool 🤷🏻‍♂️

@jehoiakimelidoronila5450 3 жыл бұрын

A wise wisdom from Gun Jesus 🤣😂.

@mikegonzalez1821 3 жыл бұрын

Probably why the SEAL was able to empty the mag before the first shot hit the ground.

@IncredibleMD 3 жыл бұрын

4:52: The tone of Ian's voice saying "just pull the trigger" made me imagine he suddenly started channeling the ghost of some poor ordinance officer from the 1970s.

@njts6862 3 жыл бұрын

When he said "just pull the trigger" I immediately thought of the song pull the trigger by Russ

@Marksman1023 2 жыл бұрын

Any Ordnance Officer from any time period. Any. Time. Period. "Troop, just read the TM, OK?"

@wanderingwonder111 2 жыл бұрын

@@Marksman1023 TM?

@Marksman1023 2 жыл бұрын

@@wanderingwonder111 Technical Manual/Training Manual/etc depending on the service. "The TM" is the little book issued with a weapon, vehicle, radio, or other piece of equipment containing all relevant data on and procedures for the use of said item.

@decibelfilm 3 жыл бұрын

I hadn't realised how large it was from photos I'd seen previously. Its scale and proportions are a little comical, like something Hellboy would have in his arsenal!

@kot1pelto 3 жыл бұрын

That's what she said.

@ryangoepfert9112 3 жыл бұрын

Knowing Hellboy it would fire solid shot slugs AND WOULD BE BADASS!!!

@TomasPabon 3 жыл бұрын

@@ryangoepfert9112 or the bones of St Roque, or pieces of the Temple of Herod or some other outrageous bullshit.

@VCXZ883 2 жыл бұрын

To me it looked like a Metal Slug weapon.

@decibelfilm 2 жыл бұрын

@@VCXZ883 Absolutely! Good shout.

@Hammer_Of_Olympia 3 жыл бұрын

“Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men” - JFK rallying the troops to fight the Zombie outbreak

@riverjordan2004 2 жыл бұрын

On five

@Sovietghostdivision 2 жыл бұрын

"Time to kill some hippies. " Nixon

@Adam-qv2bd 2 жыл бұрын

@@Sovietghostdivision - Nixon hated the hippies so much he created the DEA to deal with them. They first went after pot mainly and LSD. Then the crack explosion in the 1980s made pot and LSD less of a priority. They actually had undercover agents going into high schools to bust pot and acid dealers. Ala 21 jump street.

@heliosynth80s 2 жыл бұрын

F I V E

@malusignatius 3 жыл бұрын

*Racks a grenade, bottom half of the gun falls off* "Well, that's inconvenient."

@justiron2999 3 жыл бұрын

"Just throw them manually." Whether they explode afterwards is a different issue.

@kentlindal5422 3 жыл бұрын

@@justiron2999 apparently the Germans would shout "Grenade!" And throw empty mags. While everyone was diving for cover you'd have time to reload. Like that but with slightly more confusion?

@justiron2999 3 жыл бұрын

@@kentlindal5422 Funny enough so would the Americans if they M1 Garands. Since they made the distinctive ping everyone would know that they were out of ammo. So they threw the empty bandolier to lull Germans into a false sense of advantage.

@grayeaglej 3 жыл бұрын

Pull the trigger anyway o.o Either nothing happens or it fires, either way you are in combat and dont have a lot of options o.o

@shamwowser6510 3 жыл бұрын

@@justiron2999 That ping myth has been debunked several times, no one would hear your gun ping when there's explosions and gunfire all around.

@juggernautstyle3944 3 жыл бұрын

“Reported being able to empty the entire tube before the first Grenade hit the ground” Just straight up terrifying... where do I get one?

@ajorsomething4935 3 жыл бұрын

Honestly at enough range that's entirely feasable. H3VR (virtual reality firearms simulator that has great shooting mechanics) has one of these and it just makes bloopin' enemies so easy.

@googiegress7459 3 жыл бұрын

What you want is the belt-fed full auto version

@danlewis6157 3 жыл бұрын

Obviously it needs a “snow goose” magazine extension.

@KevinRhoads 3 жыл бұрын

The Milkor could also do this, which is why they are still very popular. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eLiSZcx30N2oc2g.html

@donjones4719 3 жыл бұрын

Have an assistant gunner next to you with rounds in his hands. Put 7 or 10 rounds in the target area in a very short time. (Assuming 4 in the weapon initially.) What's left of the enemy won't have much in the way of situational awareness.

@60sSam 3 жыл бұрын

"It does not slam fire." Well *someone* hasn't play Fallout: New Vegas recently.

@vizzy61 3 жыл бұрын

It's slam fire in FNV?

@60sSam 2 жыл бұрын

@LOAN NGUYEN With enough perks, chems and skill points you can slam fire ANYTHING.

@AlexWithington 2 жыл бұрын

@LOAN NGUYEN well if you slam it off someone's head hard enough there might be enough heat energy to make it catch fire

@AlexWithington 2 жыл бұрын

@LOAN NGUYEN still slam firing lol technically

@60sSam 2 жыл бұрын

@LOAN NGUYEN A slam was involved, and that's the main thing.

@floydoroid 3 жыл бұрын

Ian: "seriously, just pull the trigger every time." Mk19: No *CHUNCHUNCHUNCHUNCHUNCHUNCHUNCHUNCHUNK*

@WildBillCox13 3 жыл бұрын

Hehe Belt fed 40mm FTW.

@ajhewitt8405 3 жыл бұрын

Mk19: CUNCHCUNCHCUNCHCUNCH*jam*

@WildBillCox13 3 жыл бұрын

@@ajhewitt8405 The plot thickens: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mk_47_Striker

@DGneoseeker1 3 жыл бұрын

@@WildBillCox13 MK19 on steadycam hardness with power armour suit FTW.

@derekbrogan5008 3 жыл бұрын

CUNKjamCHUNKCHUNKjam

@EarlMerGerdsGarage 3 жыл бұрын

I like how you can tell Ian's throwing slight shade to "Sons of Guns"

@REexpert44 3 жыл бұрын

im shocked the tube of this thing wasnt packed with meth

@wewd 3 жыл бұрын

Isn't that the show where the owner went to prison for raping his daughter?

@MongooseTacticool 3 жыл бұрын

@@wewd yes.

@isaacfulton7731 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. We were talking about that show at work the other day and we're like. Damn. What happened. Well we looked and now we know 😂😂😂

@ElitePreferredSpecies 3 жыл бұрын

It seems like the cast from all of the Discovery/history channel gun shows had done something illegal.

@dethklokicksbutt 3 жыл бұрын

Got Ian over here sounding like a disappointed dad telling the fools he knows are about to think about slam firing one of these “They’re grenades...just...pull the trigger every time...”

@mattdale8675 3 жыл бұрын

"fire a warning shot!" "Sir, this is a 40 mm Grenade launcher." "YOU HEARD ME!"

@tannerewing8185 3 жыл бұрын

"Eh, potato, potato, just fire!"

@ShadrachVS1 3 жыл бұрын

Okay... They have a 40mm in break over, pump, and revolver... Where is the lever action!?

@thatguy.9886 3 жыл бұрын

Nah, belt-fed 40mm is where it's at.

@temkin9298 3 жыл бұрын

@@thatguy.9886 Right now I imagine a machine gun that is also an granade launcher. Machine Grenade Gun *Over Kill is achieved*

@theshankman8682 3 жыл бұрын

@@temkin9298 just google automatic grenade launcher, every army has one as far as I know

@halo7oo 3 жыл бұрын

@@temkin9298 Look up the MK19

@temkin9298 3 жыл бұрын

@@halo7oo Just did and OH MY GOD WHAT IS THAT.

@B9oyd 3 жыл бұрын

This would cause what your buddy nick would call "a significant emotional event"

@lycossurfer8851 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah @4:25 or so moment especially

@Stoicswimfish 3 жыл бұрын

As a fellow Nick, I can attest to the truth of that statement. We Nicks are simple folk, easily entertained.

@joemama-zn6lu 3 жыл бұрын

@@Stoicswimfish Hey Nick, Nick here. Sounds about right to me

@IIIVI 3 жыл бұрын

@@Stoicswimfish My brother in laws name is Nick. I can attest that he is a simple man.

@nickalmond3240 3 жыл бұрын

@@Stoicswimfish Nick to Nick, I can confirm

@davidgreen40 3 жыл бұрын

“... shoot it from the hip, by feel, quite accurately.” More evidence that “close does count” in hand grenade horseshoes.

@JunkyardBashSteve 3 жыл бұрын

Close only counts in hotdogs, horseshoes and hand grenades.

@JayWC3333 3 жыл бұрын

@@JunkyardBashSteve and nuclear warheads.

@JunkyardBashSteve 3 жыл бұрын

@@JayWC3333 one could argue that a nuclear warhead is just a very, *very* angry hand grenade

@JayWC3333 3 жыл бұрын

@@JunkyardBashSteve Then you could argue a horse shoe is an angry hot dog too. LOL

@arsenalxa4421 3 жыл бұрын

Well, yeah, I mean you've got a five meter kill radius with a ten meter wound radius. Drop three rounds in a tight grouping and, well, "that's a lot of damage!"

@johnmeyer2932 3 жыл бұрын

Good morning. Enjoyed your production on the M-79, Thumper. During the secret war in Vietnam, we cut down the M-79 for additional firepower that all the Green Berets on missions across the fence in Laos, Cambodia or N. Vietnam. We also used them to aim strobe lights at Spectre aircraft close air support. Enjoyed your presentation. Also, we had the very first experimental pump M-79s. John S. Meyer, Franklin, TN.

@robertupson5274 2 жыл бұрын

Tilt?

@johnmeyer2932 2 жыл бұрын

@@robertupson5274 - Yes sir.

@robertupson5274 2 жыл бұрын

@@johnmeyer2932 I just listened to all of your episodes on Jocko’s podcast. You had some insanely fascinating and unbelievably wild stories and experiences, I can’t wait to check out your books, man!

@DamplyDoo 2 жыл бұрын

John, huge fan of your SogCast, I've listened to every episode. I once had the pleasure of meeting a man who served on a hatchet team in "project Delta". Very nice and humble guy. I found an interview with him here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eNeamc2E1t-moac.html

@jaredcaldwell4270 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for your service, sir. 🙌🏻🇺🇸

@neovenom9833 3 жыл бұрын

Armory: "So, do you want a grenade launcher or a shotgun?" Soldier: "Yes"

@thanatos5729 3 жыл бұрын

well there were actual 40mm buckshot rounds sooooooo......

@Novur 3 жыл бұрын

Finally, someone who understands that this meme requires a multiple choice question

@venerablebrothergoriate5844 3 жыл бұрын

Soldier: “it’s great. I love it. Now swap that stock out with a pistol grip and put a rail on the top so I can put it on the underbarrel.”

@guypierson5754 3 жыл бұрын

THAT's how you thank a man for flying you out of hell: you give him your most prized possession.

@jamesb3497 3 жыл бұрын

"This kept me safe. I hope it does the same for you."

@lavrentivs9891 3 жыл бұрын

*You give him something belonging to the Navy ;)

@guypierson5754 3 жыл бұрын

@@lavrentivs9891 Porque no los dos?

@banjobill8420 3 жыл бұрын

"It's dangerous to go alone, take this"

@collinmclaren6608 3 жыл бұрын

"That was done by the cast of Sons of Guns-" _Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time..._

@MrWigglesWorth 3 жыл бұрын

Happily he's in jail, where he can no longer rape kids or butcher historic firearms.

@blus17 3 жыл бұрын

@@MrWigglesWorth huh?? Thats what happened

@colemanmoore9871 3 жыл бұрын

@@blus17 I boiled down Wikipedia. "On August 11, 2014, Hayden was arrested and charged with molestation of a juvenile and aggravated crimes against nature." "On August 27, 2014, the series was abruptly cancelled after it was revealed that child endangerment, child rape, and abuse charges were brought against Will Hayden""In September Hayden's eldest daughter, business partner, and 'Sons of Guns' co-star, Stephanie Hayden, changed her claims from that of defending her father to accusing him of also raping and abusing her as a child."'Hayden has now been sentenced to three life sentences plus 40 years" "Since the cancellation of the show, Kris Ford (guy that was hired by Will and eventually married Stephanie)was arrested on child abuse charges and for assault on a minor. Stephanie Hayden-Ford, who is the mother of the child from a previous relationship, was also arrested for assault charges on Friday October 17, 2014." Whole group was some kind of screwed up. And that was five years after they shut down by the ATF for missing registered firearm parts. Red Jacket Inc was shut down in 2009, Red Jacket L.L.C. was opened shortly after.

@cdzrocks 3 жыл бұрын

@@colemanmoore9871 Yikes. That show did have a weird vibe, now I know why.

@roughneckmp 3 жыл бұрын

One of the guys that was on Sons Of Guns went on to found Aklys Defense, he’s making some very interesting suppressed firearms and even has a 10/22 bullpup conversion chassis.

@ChoomOfDoom 3 жыл бұрын

When that squirrel in your front yard absolutely, positively, definitely must go

@bradymenting5120 2 жыл бұрын

it's a shame how this thing never made it to widespread production, it's such a stylish and effective firearm

@alexdemoya2119 3 жыл бұрын

"It doesn't slam fire, just pull the trigger every time" For some reason im making a mental note for a gun ill surely never own.

@lanceroark6386 3 жыл бұрын

Based on 870... Doesn’t slam fire... Does an 870 slam fire? Hmmmmm

@CxOrillion 3 жыл бұрын

@@lanceroark6386 I don't believe so, no. The Ithaca 37 shotguns used in Vietnam by similar special operations forces did, however. I don't think those were ever official inventory either though.

@lanceroark6386 3 жыл бұрын

@@CxOrillion copy

@TheFatNumpty 3 жыл бұрын

I was so hoping to hear Ian say "lets take this out on to the range"

@TheFatNumpty 3 жыл бұрын

@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine Shame.

@victorwaddell6530 3 жыл бұрын

@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine Navy MR . ' Hold my coffee mug . '

@anna_arw6006 3 жыл бұрын

@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine nothing a few beers and a tig welder can't fix! But i won't be the first to shoot it, lmao.

@ivgotballsofsteel4048 3 жыл бұрын

i read this in the same way i would, "lets get this out onto a tray" nice

@TheFatNumpty 3 жыл бұрын

@@ivgotballsofsteel4048 I’m glad someone made that link!

@Law0086 3 жыл бұрын

Everybody thats played New Vegas just went, "Ohhhhhhhh thats what that gun was."

@rustyshackleford6143 3 жыл бұрын

Ian: “Just pull the trigger every time. You don’t want it to slam fire.....” Me: “No.”

@PotentialHistory 3 жыл бұрын

Welp, time to go play Kino.

@plussum3255 3 жыл бұрын

Nice seeing you here

@WagyuWako 3 жыл бұрын

Damn

@tendymusic9095 3 жыл бұрын

@@CountGold M14

@jessISaRicePrincess 3 жыл бұрын

Oh hi ww2 shit poster. Jk love your vids dude

@yukito8148 3 жыл бұрын

so what we gonna play now

@vncube1 3 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, the "Click, Click, Bloop" Tube.

@sleepyrasta14820 3 жыл бұрын

Click click noob tube

@TheGM-20XX 3 жыл бұрын

@@sleepyrasta14820 Pro Pipe.

@Dick_Gozinya 3 жыл бұрын

We used to call the M203 the "Thump Gun" when I was in.

@DamazViccar 3 жыл бұрын

"Should I audibly rack the slide to scare off a home invader?" "Shotguns are scary but you should not give your position away." "It's not a shotgun."

@JCGver 3 жыл бұрын

@@DamazViccar Can't steal what is blown to bits! 4d chess move to destroy your house and everything in it when a burglar is in your house

@loganpeterson8341 3 жыл бұрын

I made Ian in Fallout 4 as an excuse to collect and display every gun I saw.

@loganpeterson8341 3 жыл бұрын

Update: Ian is so bugged out that it literally broke my game and I kid you not, my disk will not even read. Maybe the world of Fallout is not ready for Ian McCallum.

@neilyb5012 3 жыл бұрын

Medical Milk it was the facial hair the game couldn't render it successfully

@loganpeterson8341 3 жыл бұрын

@@neilyb5012 probably

@tunnelrunner8253 3 жыл бұрын

@@loganpeterson8341 "what we have here today is a low quality pipe rifle with a bayonet I found off a dead raider 20 minutes ago"

@-MitMel- 3 жыл бұрын

Lol, just a few days ago, I got a mod that puts the china 40mm in the game.

@DarkWizard83 3 жыл бұрын

Allegedly, at least one wound up with the South American Lovelace household for use by one of their maids.

@ScottKenny1978 3 жыл бұрын

Well, that one probably fell out of the MACV-SOG guys, too.

@GaryHamad 3 жыл бұрын

When Ithaca and M79 have a One Night Stand in the 60s

@fruitbat4429 3 жыл бұрын

Technically it's a one night stand between Remington and M79, but I guess Ithaca used a false name when they checked into the motel . . .

@GaryHamad 3 жыл бұрын

@@fruitbat4429 I don't remember 870 was used in field in large numbers so I pick Ithaca, Ambi, User Friendly, and WWII proven

@GaryHamad 3 жыл бұрын

@Juan Sanchez yeah sure

@roflchopter11 3 жыл бұрын

"they're grenades,just pull the trigger every time"

@justiron2999 3 жыл бұрын

How about.....no?

@nocturnal0072 3 жыл бұрын

Gun jesus has spoken.

@DH-xw6jp 3 жыл бұрын

If you cant slam fire a couple of 40 mike mikes, can you really say you are Free?

@b-conn6624 3 жыл бұрын

"This here is my BOOM stick!" Bet one of these is locked up in some crazy old mans basement.

@1138Fallen 3 жыл бұрын

My first introduction to the CL was call of duty. I've always considered myself a gun buff and was shamed that I'd never known anything about this until then. Damn cool video as usual.

@Irondrone4 3 жыл бұрын

"A bunch of burly SEALs loaded with explosives..." I immediately thought of a family of wild seals covered in bandoliers of 40mm and trying to pick up China Lakes.

@SkyNinja759 3 жыл бұрын

The real reason humans don't colonize the north.

@butterdogestarwars6709 3 жыл бұрын

They can (kind of) pick things up with the claws at the end of the flippers, but sadly (and luckily) not a 40mm grenade launcher.

@Nightdare 3 жыл бұрын

@@butterdogestarwars6709 North cape seal: Hold my fish

@epauletshark3793 3 жыл бұрын

Make this a reality some how, put it in a meme, a book, a movie, use real seals, anything. Make it happen. Please

@ericcosta92 3 жыл бұрын

"They're grenades" is the best explanation as to why you shouldn't attempt whatever questionable action you are about to perform with a grenade. Nothing more should need to be said.

@LuvzToLol21 3 жыл бұрын

"As soon as you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend"

@jrobson100 3 жыл бұрын

I remember hearing a story from a friend who carried an M203 who had a chucklefuck toss a 40mm to him softball style from the roof of a 2 story building. As he put it "In theory a 40mm shouldn't arm from the spin and velocity of being tossed, but fuck if I was going to stand there and test that theory." He and everyone near him dove for cover, the grenade thumped into the ground harmlessly, and the idiot was confused, at least until the sargent got to him for his epic ass-chewing.

@Adam-qv2bd 2 жыл бұрын

@@jrobson100 - Ass chewing deservedly so.

@livefire81 2 жыл бұрын

Could you imagine being a GI in 1967 and running around the jungle with one of these chonkers and a 1911? My god what a beast.

@DesertDuc 3 жыл бұрын

With the way the elevator functions it looks like you could "ghost load" a 5th 40mm grenade, it's a wonder these didn't become more relevant.

@jake9705 3 жыл бұрын

"Pump shotguns are the best!" "Hey chum, have you ever tried a pump grenade launcher?"

@ThisFinalHandle 3 жыл бұрын

The clay pigeons never stood a chance.

@titter3648 3 жыл бұрын

Need a airburst variant for the clay shooting....

@spartanalex9006 3 жыл бұрын

Imagine using this with one of the 40mm canister or flechete rounds.

@2MeterLP 3 жыл бұрын

or the car in a parking lot 200m behind your clay pidgeon range :D

@grekygrek 3 жыл бұрын

I love that you understand people's thoughts so well that as i was thinking about slam fire you literally mentioned it. Just pull the damn trigger every time lol. You're a legend Ian.

@yojon75 3 жыл бұрын

*racks grenade launcher** Me "Could you slam fire that sucker?" Ian "It does not slam fire, I know people are gonna ask that" Me "aaaagh c'mon" Ian ".... Just pull the trigger everytime, they're grenades just pull the trigger everytime" Me "Fine"

@johnparrish9215 3 жыл бұрын

Lesson One: NEVER loan Expensive and Rare guns to a damn TV show. They have no respect for them.

@GuardianOfTheHeaven 3 жыл бұрын

Dang straight. Those exotic guns deserves much better treatments.

@BillehBobJoe 3 жыл бұрын

Well i think the future weapons guy ( the one who died ) was able to work with exotic firearms without breaking them, or raping his daughter, so no not all tv hosts 😂

@cjmunnee3356 3 жыл бұрын

@@BillehBobJoe Mac died? That sucks!

@anthonywilliams379 3 жыл бұрын

Or have them sign a clause to say they'll pay the cost of repairs to any significant damage they cause

@kylelottridge8939 3 жыл бұрын

@@cjmunnee3356 According to his Wiki, it was brain cancer. Feels like a part of my childhood watching the military channel at 6am, just died.

@ssoos7701 3 жыл бұрын

I liked this for the Indiana Jones Warehouse comment, Ian..

@sniper59jl 3 жыл бұрын

Ian , you should go , .... shurely you will find MANY forgotten weapons there....¡¡¡

@danmanmcleod 3 жыл бұрын

Ian: "Hey guys, today we have the Ark Of The Covenant, a truly forgotten weapon. Let's disassemble it and see how it works...." Us: NNNOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

@Mekkes76 3 жыл бұрын

@@danmanmcleod Ian already has the Ark in his possession, he uses it to store the Holy Trinity.

@Edax_Royeaux 3 жыл бұрын

@@danmanmcleod Ian: "It's beautiful! ARRUGHGH"

@Blei1986 3 жыл бұрын

@@sniper59jl but don't look at the light

@edanlumpkin5778 3 жыл бұрын

"Shame" *loads 40mm pump action grenade launcher*

@iangrant2330 3 жыл бұрын

Very polite “sons of guns” burn

@firemedic1033 3 жыл бұрын

oh god. remember that show?! Just thinking about it almost made me throw up.

@badrolljoe 3 жыл бұрын

kinder than Hayden deserves.

@johnbacon4997 3 жыл бұрын

When did he do that?

@QuasiMonkey 3 жыл бұрын

@@johnbacon4997 9:15 in the video when talking about the broken locking block.

@walker6296 3 жыл бұрын

Didn't one of those guys go to prison for sexually abusing his daughter or was that another gun show?

@MrGhjkl63 3 жыл бұрын

"That was helpfully done by the cast of Sons of Guns" A N G E R Y

@JayWC3333 3 жыл бұрын

They should fix the thing...not cool...

@DangerousKittenFangs 3 жыл бұрын

That show still haunts Ian to this day...

@watchoutnwo 3 жыл бұрын

Angry*

@watchoutnwo 3 жыл бұрын

@Billy Jack I figured as much

@williammagoffin9324 3 жыл бұрын

@@JayWC3333 kind of hard since the ATF shut them down for loosing registered parts and the owner is serving two life sentences for rape.

@drydogg 3 жыл бұрын

My 203 had the quadrant sight on the carry handle, off the left side. The flip-up sight on the barrel-front was called a leaf sight.

@ragingraider889 3 жыл бұрын

As someone who has a love for shotguns, I wish I owned one of those. No words can express how much I wish I owned one of those.

@Arbiter099 3 жыл бұрын

"there's a batman logo on this grenade launcher but you'll never guess where"

@chrisj5036 3 жыл бұрын

Where lol?

@emperorbunnybun7513 3 жыл бұрын

@@chrisj5036 9:36

@chrisj5036 3 жыл бұрын

@@emperorbunnybun7513 lol thanks I was thinking I was the joke and there wasn't one .

@TheMailmanOfSteel 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty sad that this China Lake is one more victim to those hacks who did that Sons of Guns TV show.

@OlderSpud 3 жыл бұрын

This one broken part doesn't looks like it would be too hard to machine anew.

@MattMerica76 3 жыл бұрын

Luckily its a repro

@beans7067 3 жыл бұрын

1:30 'it was really bulky and huge and a failure' Sounds like he's describing me

@motobenbh4722 3 жыл бұрын

Laughing .... but also crying inside

@blueonblack83 3 жыл бұрын

Or your mother-in-law

@tjthompson58 3 жыл бұрын

I nearly expected him to say "Let me show you its features!" IYKYK

@jeffreydahmer3995 3 жыл бұрын

This video should be titled “M79 but cooler”

@jonathanlee5314 3 жыл бұрын

It's like the m79's chad brother who lettered in 3 sports

@rafox66 3 жыл бұрын

I always called it the M79 China Lake

@chrisperrien7055 3 жыл бұрын

"M79, but Total Bad-assery"

@lowtdave 3 жыл бұрын

I remember hearing a SEAL describe their Vietnam style of fighting. Each SEAL would put as much lead down range as possible. They wanted the enemy to believe they were up against a large collection of troops so they would not attempt to maneuver on them. And they could slip out in the chaos. The video then cut to 3 SEALS moving with m60s and shoulder firing them causing mayhem. It was kind of beautiful.

@angelotomasi9413 2 жыл бұрын

Has anyone else ever heard John Stryker Meyer’s podcast appearance where he tells a story about one of his SOG team members was carrying what he referred to as “a pump action m79” on target. China Lake is Navy thing, specifically a SEAL thing, but SEALs were also involved in SOG operations. I really wonder if Tilt’s fellow green beret had one of these that day.

@thekatjon20 3 жыл бұрын

Everyone's commenting on the 'slam fire' comment, while I'm simply drooling over my favorite Fallout franchise nade launcher. :3

@singularkakapo 3 жыл бұрын

Given the number you find in game, they were probably mass produced in the Fallout universe. Badass

@notinspectorgadget 3 жыл бұрын

"that sure is a nice fortified position you got there, it'd be a real shame if something were to happen to it."

@EricinSoKo 3 жыл бұрын

“They’re grenades. Just pull the trigger every time.” 🤣 I’m dying.

@korvtm 3 жыл бұрын

You mentioned that gunner could get third round fired before first one hit target.Believe it or not we were once able to do that with the M79.Took some work with someone else handing gunner the loads,plus firing at max range on a safe firing range,but we did it.First round hit just as third round was fried

@ZealotPewPewPew 2 жыл бұрын

4:25 "It does not slam fire, I know people are going to ask that." He must also know I'm still immeasurably disappointed at the 40mm grenade launcher's lack of slam fire.

@rollastudent 3 жыл бұрын

Like we needed another reason to dislike Sons of Guns

@sjcommander91 3 жыл бұрын

Lester The Molester 's Discount Gun Destruction Warehouse? How could anyone really dislike them?

@sheldoniusRex 3 жыл бұрын

I guess there were a few things which he couldn't claim had "neva been dun befoe."

@Hybris51129 3 жыл бұрын

"This was done by the cast of Sons of Guns TV show." Someone get Mark Novak on the line! We got one hell of a Anvil episode for him to do!

@ScottKenny1978 3 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure that any halfway competent machinist could fab that piece.

@calebsyswerda 3 жыл бұрын

Damaging Serial 01 of the China Lake might be the worst crime any of the former Sons of Guns cast has committed, and that’s fucking saying something. 🙄

@shred1894 2 жыл бұрын

@@calebsyswerda It's not an original, it's serial number 01 of a run of reproductions.

@zebdawson3687 2 жыл бұрын

@@calebsyswerda rape, child abuse, sexual assault on a 12 year old... yeah, I guess a broken piece of metal on a reproduction is pretty bad though, huh? 😂

@MiStAGrAVeR 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Ian. Amazing video on such a rare piece of history.

@GerinoMorn 2 жыл бұрын

It's... it's so beautiful. The finish, the shape, the blunderbuss-like feel. Amazing (and terrifying) weapon.

@SergioMach7 3 жыл бұрын

One of these is on display in the Saigon War Museum, but when I had a look at it, it was still labelled as the M79 Grenade Launcher. It was really exciting to see it knowing that so few originals are out there.

@p0331546 3 жыл бұрын

This looks like something doomslayer would carry as a default weapon

@hexazalea1793 3 жыл бұрын

Fallout NV's courier uses em infact one is the main energy weapon of the dead money dlc. its been converted to a sniper in that case though.

@Yominication 3 жыл бұрын

@@hexazalea1793 i was wondering why this thing was looking similar, turns out its the goddamn holorifle

@ArcturusOTE 3 жыл бұрын

Well the 2016 and Eternal Combat Shotgun does double as noob tubes so yes

@AWolf-gq2vu 3 жыл бұрын

In concept, the sticky bomb mod for the Combat Shotgun in DOOM Eternal isn’t all that different, minus the fact that this wasn’t used with timed, adhesive grenades.

@michaelchitwood389 3 жыл бұрын

This has a special place in my heart, as i lived on China Lake in the '70s as a kid.

@zacharydevan4107 3 жыл бұрын

Had to re watch. One of the coolest featured weapons in my opinion.

@evilsigh86 3 жыл бұрын

this looks like something hellboy would definitely use

@jusdafax1 3 жыл бұрын

But he'd use the pistol version, one in each hand.

@ianwright4255 3 жыл бұрын

Don't wake the Baby

@MilitaryHistory2011 3 жыл бұрын

Everyone's laughing until Father Elijah turns one of these in to a HoloRifle...

@EarlMerGerdsGarage 3 жыл бұрын

Fallout NV reference. Nice.

@owen4420 3 жыл бұрын

Truth is it was a holorifle from the start

@MU-oi1su 3 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly!!!

@charon2588 3 жыл бұрын

Goddamnit I just finish the dlc 2 minutes ago

@muhammadnursyahmi9440 3 жыл бұрын

Father Elijah can go and stare the wall of Sierra Madre for all eternity. That's what you get for bomb collar and threatened to blow up people unless they do his bidding.

@kirkmooneyham 3 жыл бұрын

I think this grenade launcher epitomizes the concept of a "Forgotten Weapon", and a rather cool one, at that. Thanks, Ian.

@D6251110H 3 жыл бұрын

“Just pull the trigger every time. They’re grenades...” 😂

@slypask9185 3 жыл бұрын

"Shotgun or grenade launcher ?" 'Murica : *"Yes"*

@zaholykrusedar1459 3 жыл бұрын

"Heavy or Demo update?" 'Demo: "Yes"

@kennmikos9120 3 жыл бұрын

So if you load it with "beehive/hornet's nest" rounds, does it circle back around to being a shotgun again?

@TheGM-20XX 3 жыл бұрын

9:20 tragically this is not the worst thing sons of guns ever did.

@ferretwithagun9886 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s just a little rapeyish. I still want it though. I’d kill will for it.

@MongooseTacticool 3 жыл бұрын

Will Hayden received 3 life sentences for his crimes.

@horrorclose9462 3 жыл бұрын

True. Pretty sure the whole "incest" thing takes the cake.

@Lrr_Of_Omikron 3 жыл бұрын

Yea that one kinda triggered me. I'm curious to know who and how it broke tho?

@wheedle 3 жыл бұрын

They were hacks, on top of the incest stuff...

@Joeph_R_Silva Ай бұрын

China Lake is a cool place, friend of mine worked there in 60'/70's, the fusing section had 140 engineers.

@GeoDelGonzo 3 жыл бұрын

That is a mechanically satisfying specimen. The sounds of the reload is gratifying too.

@Chyrosran22 3 жыл бұрын

Been waiting for this one for so long :D .

@4skintim962 3 жыл бұрын

Is that the real forgotten keyboards?

@Crimsaur 3 жыл бұрын

Aw fuck, didn't expect to see you here tom.

@Chyrosran22 3 жыл бұрын

@@Crimsaur I even referenced his intro in one of my videos xD . Ian is basically what I'd have been if I'd grown up in the US :p .

@thealandude9146 3 жыл бұрын

Holy crap

@rhinovirus2225 3 жыл бұрын

Me as well

@rfswitch4530 3 жыл бұрын

Correction on M203 sights. The sight on top is called a leaf sight and the sight that mounts on the side of the M16/M4 portion is the quadrant sight. The leaf sight was okay for close range, direct fire. The quadrant sight is needed for indirect fire and longer range use, it's also more accurate in my experience. Some of your viewers took exception when I said that I was impressed by the 203/quadrant sight combo, many videos ago, but I stand by my impressions from using it.

@davidreeding9176 3 жыл бұрын

There is no greater gift than a pump action 40mm grenade launcher

@Alexander_the_Alright 3 жыл бұрын

Little known fact. This model was a favorite of many Colombian maids

@Hilpis 3 жыл бұрын

Man of culture

@alastair852 3 жыл бұрын

*Mini Colombian maids.

@wiredloaf2050 3 жыл бұрын

“The numbers Mason, what do they mean”

@RandomGuy-sp8pr 3 жыл бұрын

I was not fast enough.

@dutchplanderlinde4845 3 жыл бұрын

“Dragovich, Kravchenko, Steiner. All must die.”

@pokejust7045 3 жыл бұрын

We are getting old.

@Dylski. 3 жыл бұрын

I wonder if in real life reloading is faster than the pump action

@wiredloaf2050 3 жыл бұрын

@@Dylski. lol

@magnusolsen691 3 жыл бұрын

Haven't heard about Sons of Guns in many a year. It was a neat concept for a show. Too bad about all the kid diddling, though...

@JuliaCV9 3 жыл бұрын

every time I got the china lake grenade launcher in BO1 zombies and since it was an explosive weapon, it'd damage you if you were close to the explosion (if you are the user). it does work effectively from far away because you can kill a lot of zombies with one entire "mag" (2 shots). EXTREMELY effective in the campaign though, kills a lot of enemies.

@jonathanjollimore7156 3 жыл бұрын

Such a very simple but effective design

@Skankhunter420 3 жыл бұрын

Haha! Sons of guns! What a shame. Doesnt surprise me they broke it. They were probably trying to build a suppressor for it lol.

@Etherman7 3 жыл бұрын

Didn't they have a full CNC shop? What dicks, not replacing a simple aluminum part they broke.

@Skankhunter420 3 жыл бұрын

@@Etherman7 he was too busy staring up his daughters dress to fix it. Freakin sicko!

@MongooseTacticool 3 жыл бұрын

@@Skankhunter420 Will Hayden received 3 life sentences for his crimes. Disgusting man.

@prouddegenerates9056 3 жыл бұрын

I need a lazer and flashlight first, maybe a scope.

@bodyno3158 3 жыл бұрын

@@Etherman7 I'd mill out a full steel replacement, since the aluminum one broke.

@mpkp2011 3 жыл бұрын

It doesn't surprise me that the only time the show Sons of Guns is brought up in 2020 is in reference to them breaking a historically important grenade launcher lmao

@MandolinMagi 3 жыл бұрын

Having never watched the show, what happened with them and the China Lake

@mpkp2011 3 жыл бұрын

@@MandolinMagi ya know i tried looking it up and I couldn't find any info on the gun itself, however the show had a really dark ending. It was a goofy show about making weird gun ideas (like quad mounted ARs on a truck for no reason, that type of thing). But the lead host of the show was arrested back in 2017. He had been found guilty of raping two little girls aged 11 to 13 and was convicted to 40 years on top of a double life sentence. It was really surprising when it happened obviously, but it was very upsetting because he hosted the show with his adult daughter, who came forward and divulged terrible details about the man her father was. Overall a very wildly dramatic ending to a generally boring show.

@davidreeding9176 3 жыл бұрын

"We've made a grenade launcher with a capacity of 4 grenades!" "Excellent! I see you chose to model it after a revolver... wait, I see 6 chambers, don't you mean it can hold 6 grenades?" "No."

@classifiedad1 2 жыл бұрын

If you’re referring to the TF2 grenade launcher, I believe that it originally did have 6 grenades with 36 in reserve. Then promptly discovered how overpowered and broken that was, so cut down the capacity to 4 and the reloads to 16.

@thatguy.9886 3 жыл бұрын

"'Ey, Leonard, you got that Mossberg layin' around your place still?" "Yeah, why?" "Reckon we could shoot fireworks outta it?" "..."

@MrPear40 3 жыл бұрын

Nobody: Every FPS with an on-rail car chase.

@weirdeurasianboy8091 3 жыл бұрын

Nice

@bootygroinweevil2181 3 жыл бұрын

Far cry 3

@jackdipicche_ 3 жыл бұрын

Never thought I'd see a real one of these

@wewd 3 жыл бұрын

@@pkz420 They used to have one on display at the SEAL museum, not sure if they still do, but I saw one there.

@MattMerica76 3 жыл бұрын

@@wewd Its still there. I went A year or two ago and it’s there.

@SpruceGoose79 2 жыл бұрын

Damn! That’s cool! And a very interesting dive into a very rare and iconic firearm. Thanks Ian!!

@TheGunslinger44 3 жыл бұрын

I feel like I would rather have this than the revolving chamber of the modern grenade launchers

@ScottKenny1978 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, the 6rd cylinder is wide enough, the 12rd is absurd.

@Spike-13 3 жыл бұрын

SEALS: we need to combine the two most devastating weapons we have; the shotgun and the grenade launcher China Lake: *say no more*

@MurcuryEntertainment 3 жыл бұрын

Were 40mm grenades ever manufactured with a cluster or MIRV payload?

@Spike-13 3 жыл бұрын

@@MurcuryEntertainment I'm not sure, but they have the M576 40 mm buckshot load for use in the M79. It would transform the China Lake grenade launcher into a shotgun on steroids😎

@davids3282 3 жыл бұрын

@@Spike-13 Im having exactly this idea for the game im working on lol

@johnathanblackwell9960 3 жыл бұрын

@@MurcuryEntertainment i mean, how the hell would you make each payload individually targetable is something so small

@ScottKenny1978 3 жыл бұрын

@@Spike-13 the M576 is surprisingly weak as a buckshot round, it's equal to a 20ga in pellet count and velocity.