Lindner's Improbable Tube-Fed Striker-Fired Caseless Ammo Revolver

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Edward Lindner was a Bavarian-born gunsmith who spent much of his professional life in the United States. He was granted no less than 13 firearms patents, and was involved in some very forward-thinking designs. Among other things, he has the earliest patent I am aware of which uses the term "striker" (1865) and also the first patent I am aware of for a gas-operated action (1856). He is best known for some of his simplest work; conversions of muzzle loaders to breechloading - but he also designed this much more complex revolver system.
This is a proof-of-concept model of a fantastic revolver that used a tubular magazine and paper cartridges with separate primers. It used a roughly .48 caliber pistol cartridge, feeding from a tubular magazine under the barrel.With each cycling of the action, a new cartridge was fed into the bottom chamber of the cylinder, and the cylinder indexed one position and fired. Priming was done from a separate magazine of percussion caps, with the striker stripping one out, seating it, and immediately firing - essentially an open-bolt mechanism in a percussion revolver.
Only two examples of this system appear to have been made; this one and a slightly more refined proof of concept model.
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@vertigo4236 2 жыл бұрын

I see, the G11 development started earlier than I thought.

@agooddemoman8603 2 жыл бұрын

German people I tell you

@drafgo2845 2 жыл бұрын

1800s Kraut Space Magic

@nokiot9 2 жыл бұрын

Does that thing have a rotary element to it? I know the caseless ammo and sort of the way the ammo loads and sits-

@markbecht1420 2 жыл бұрын

@@drafgo2845 1800's Kraut Aether Magic

@alifr4088 2 жыл бұрын

@@nokiot9 well yes of course, only this thing had 6 chambers instead of 1 like in the G11

@GarnetCrow 2 жыл бұрын

This man must have been a hell of a guy to come to the US in the 1950s only to travel back in time to make guns in the 1850s. What a legend.

@noturkill9879 2 жыл бұрын

I think he meant 1850s. XD.

@bobzilla0262 2 жыл бұрын

I think he meant 1850 because in 1950 prussia doesn't existed anymore.

@GarnetCrow 2 жыл бұрын

gee guys, ya don't say.

@luisantolafrancis519 2 жыл бұрын

Lets give a mulligan to Ian in this one,of course he mess up the century ! lol cheers!!

@c1ph3rpunk 2 жыл бұрын

Impressive isn’t it.

@SideWays8Productions 2 жыл бұрын

Ian: you could put an even longer barrel and have even more capacity, or even add more tubes Call of Duty devs looking for their next game setting: *heavy breathing*

@jubuttib 2 жыл бұрын

*trying to furiously think of US military people I know of from the mid 1800s* Call of Duty: Custer's Revenge

@SideWays8Productions 2 жыл бұрын

@@jubuttib this gun would absolutely explain how a few natives wiped out an entire US Army Cavalry brigade and I can’t wait for Infinity Ward to show us in exciting 4k detail

@mattwoodard2535 2 жыл бұрын

Too late. The BioShock devs already got it. sm

@Sivartius Жыл бұрын

Call of Duty: Sherridan's Showdown. Call of Duty: McClellan's Mavericks

@AnimeSunglasses Жыл бұрын

@@Sivartius LOL, least Maverick general in US history

@harlech2 2 жыл бұрын

"Lindner was born in 1819 and emigrated to the United states in the 1950's" Man that dude sure did live a looooong time.

@unifiedhorizons2663 2 жыл бұрын

Over 140 years?

@markh.6687 2 жыл бұрын

What? Maybe he took vitamins, which hadn't been discovered or invented yet. :)

@unifiedhorizons2663 2 жыл бұрын

@@markh.6687 he’s a time traveler I tell you what

@markh.6687 2 жыл бұрын

@@unifiedhorizons2663 Yes you did, about 3 weeks ago, before I posted my comment. You have to be careful when working near singularities. :)

@SnoopReddogg 2 жыл бұрын

So he was a gun making version of Nicolas Flamel???

@Quintus_Fontane 2 жыл бұрын

"What the... this HAS to be German..." "Lindner was born in Prussia" "Yep"

@bl4cksp1d3r 2 жыл бұрын

Close enough lol

@markh.6687 2 жыл бұрын

@@Tounushi In Mother Russian, parts make YOU!!

@zacharyrollick6169 2 жыл бұрын

@@Tounushi The guy that made the AN-94 must have bee a Swiss spy.

@maxpulido4268 2 жыл бұрын

Boring, low IQ jokes that movies like Shrek lord their intelligence over. Beautiful.

@foradain5211 2 жыл бұрын

Odd, the description says Bavaria...

@ER.Hart2000 2 жыл бұрын

I love the mid 19th century steampunk wacky guns like this and the pinfire revolvers with 30+ chambers

@LUR1FAX 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that one must have taken like half an hour to fully load.

@tomtruesdale6901 2 жыл бұрын

@@LUR1FAX Wonder how you would load it as the mag tube seems to be fixed to the barrel?

@ellemnist 2 жыл бұрын

looks like the follower can be pulled and slid out.

@patrickseaman 2 жыл бұрын

Needs more brass and an overly complicated exposed lens optic system!

@Taistelukalkkuna 2 жыл бұрын

@@patrickseaman And tactical lantern for good measure.

@dickdastardly4236 2 жыл бұрын

It blows my mind that we went from insanely complicated stuff like this that took a master gunsmith to make to an Australian boy scout making an open bolt sub-machine gun. Imagine showing the guy that made this a Sten or something.

@infernaldaedra 2 жыл бұрын

I imagine he would be kicking himself at just the sheer simplicity but it would maybe look almost absurd similar to how steampunk stuff looks today because the manufacturing technology isn't the same. A small coil spring in the 1850s would be a marvel of engineering in itself. In fACT IN THE 1850'S the smallest springs they had were for new carriage benches.

@RaphYkun 2 жыл бұрын

@@infernaldaedra Yeah, like the entirely of this mechanism is trying to solve what brass cased ammunition made simple. Getting the primer and powder and bullet all lined up safely. So of course once that's solved, you can simplify the rest of the design to a tube and a spring.

@kam_iko 2 жыл бұрын

@@infernaldaedra i see no reason why you couldn’t manufacture a perfectly functional AR-15 in the 1850s. you couldn’t actually use it, until smokeless powder gets invented, that is, but everything else was achievable with technology of that time.

@infernaldaedra 2 жыл бұрын

@@kam_iko depends on how much poly you use but yeah individual parts absolutely not a problem but I think the assembly and tolerances wouldn't be doable.

@ryboodle 2 жыл бұрын

@@kam_iko I mean aluminum was obscenely expensive and they were just figuring out how to mfg it at the time. But I guess you could try to cast it?

@Jackedhobbit 2 жыл бұрын

This has to be the coolest, most steampunk, forgotten weapon I’ve ever seen. I love everything about it and want a reproduction. I know it’s obsolete. I know it would cost too much to make, but it’s so interesting.

@windwalker5765 2 жыл бұрын

Probably could 3D print a non-firing but feeding replica...

@andersjjensen 2 жыл бұрын

With smokeless powder those rounds could work...

@ScottKenny1978 2 жыл бұрын

Apparently Nerf used a system like this for their Rival line...

@stevepalpatine2828 2 жыл бұрын

@@windwalker5765 I daresay a gunsmith could make one if you had the blueprints for it. It would cost quite a bit, and I wouldn't want to hold it when firing it untill it was tested but it would be worth it. I'd make one myself if I had the skill.

@Likexner 2 жыл бұрын

Exacly man, i would like one too. I dont even want to think about how much it would cost to have it made though.

@TheFanatical1 2 жыл бұрын

Now this is a good Forgotten Weapons episode. I've never heard of it and it looks weird.

@cbtillery135 2 жыл бұрын

Holy shit it’s Mr. New Vegas, the DJ for the radio station “Radio New Vegas” in the video game Fallout New Vegas

@TheFanatical1 2 жыл бұрын

@@cbtillery135 Yep, that's me.

@shred1894 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheFanatical1 Do you love me?

@Make-Asylums-Great-Again 2 жыл бұрын

Your momma.

@MrHouse-fo1od 2 жыл бұрын

Get back to work.

@johnmorgan1629 2 жыл бұрын

Overly complicated, engineering project, combines multiple elements that are recognisable in modern terms, such as striker fire, expanding reserve of ammo, revolving cylinder and tube magazine. Perfect for Forgotten Weapons.

@uwuowo4856 2 жыл бұрын

And perfectly german

@TheRogueWolf 2 жыл бұрын

The Swiss: "We make the most complicated firearms in the world!" Lindner: "Hold my beer stein and watch this."

@heyfucko 2 жыл бұрын

"Watch"

@davidschneider9145 2 жыл бұрын

@Tommy I‘m curious to find out what exactly you had in mind while translating this.

@EllAntares Жыл бұрын

"Sometimes catches fire but measures time perfectly?"

@Mr.deacle 2 жыл бұрын

Nerf used almost this exact loading system in their Rival line (Artemis, Hades, Roundhouse), and I always wondered why I hadn't seen it in a caseless or paper cartridge firearm. I'd been hypothesizing one myself, but it was a 5-tube long recoil design, instead of manual operation.

@AsbestosMuffins 2 жыл бұрын

I think the general problem with paper cartridges is they're not rigid enough to reliably feed using these systems, plus before pretty much the 1930s, repeating rifles were quite difficult to get working

@Mr.deacle 2 жыл бұрын

@@AsbestosMuffins You're not wrong, but I figured a ratcheting magazine with a revolver cylinder would still work better than a spring magazine loading into a traditional chamber.

@thesemipro822 2 жыл бұрын

Also, what wasn't mentioned is that caseless cartridges tend to be FILTHY and rough on the gun. As in they foul a lot more than cased ammunition, making extended operation and accuracy difficult.

@ostiariusalpha 2 жыл бұрын

@PsychoLucario Manual repeaters were perfected well before the 1930's, and this revolver carbine is a manually operated firearm. You're not wrong about the paper cartridges though, metallic cases are what made repeating arms possible, whether manual or automatic.

@henryrodgers7386 2 жыл бұрын

I had an idea for a gas-operated revolver that worked like this, as a steampunk sort of thing... I'm amazed someone actually built one!

@Horizontalvertigo 2 жыл бұрын

I love insanely complex, too ahead of their time designs like this

@krissteel4074 2 жыл бұрын

There's definitely a beauty in the engineering

@deedeeko9 2 жыл бұрын

I think the design is very well thought out. In practice it would probably jam up with percussion caps. Would be a beautiful build for someone today. A lathe and mill should be enough.

@Horizontalvertigo 2 жыл бұрын

@@deedeeko9 oh yeah for sure, for one off craftsmen pieces, it would be lovely. Eyewateringly expensive probably, but lovely. But large scale, serial production, for a standing army? Nah, no way, no how unfortunately.

@sreckocuvalo8110 2 жыл бұрын

"so what kind of feature would you like in your gun?" "One of each please"

@markh.6687 2 жыл бұрын

Put in ALL the features!!

@LTPottenger 2 жыл бұрын

Roll randomly, then hit doubles 3 times and had to add more.

@markh.6687 2 жыл бұрын

@@LTPottenger Anybody got a 10-side die we can roll? :)

@hars4671 2 жыл бұрын

3:35 "The trigger is perfectly normal, not really anything fancy going on there unlike everything else on this _short pause of contemplation_ 'gun'." One of my favourite moments right there.

@dakotahrickard 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, not only was this guy a great engineer, his marketing sense was right on. Nobody, NO-BODY, would have bought a revolver without a hammer at that point, right? So he gives them a hammer. Does it hammer? No, but by God it looks like it. Seriously, this is brilliant.

@rodrigodepierola 2 жыл бұрын

"How complicated do you want the gun to be?" "Yes"

@badcallsign4204 2 жыл бұрын

It’s like a miniature factory machine. This really puts me into that time period when they were still trying to figure these things out better than most examples I’ve seen.

@markh.6687 2 жыл бұрын

"When Trigger "A" is pulled to the rear of the stock, it releases its grip on Rack "B", allowing Striker "C" to parse time and space and then strike Firing Pin "D"....and at the end you either get a bullet out the barrel, or your toast is ready."

@Darthdoodoo 8 ай бұрын

Definitely a machine gun😮

@Chyrosran22 2 жыл бұрын

What an absolutely bizarre contraption xD . Thanks for showing it, great episode!

@RamenPoweredShitFactory 2 жыл бұрын

Hello there keyboard man

@yanh__ 2 жыл бұрын

when are you going to turn a keyboard into a black powder musket

@nitroraptor5316 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Chyrosran how r u?

@Chyrosran22 2 жыл бұрын

@@nitroraptor5316 I'm great, thanks! :D

@Echin0idea 2 жыл бұрын

It's not every day you see a revolver with the possibility of both a failure to feed (a new cartridge from the tube) and failure to extract/eject (a primer)!

@enricopaolocoronado2511 2 жыл бұрын

This is like some wacky endgame ultimate weapon you'd see in an RPG.

@PosranaRegistrace 2 жыл бұрын

It is like coming straight from Arcanum

@piatpotatopeon8305 2 жыл бұрын

The US Army adopted this in the same alternate timeline that Lincoln accepted the king of Siam's gift of elephants. They were used against the Confederate States by the Lincolnite war elephant cavalry.

@Tommy-5684 2 жыл бұрын

now thats an alt-history i want to read

@elitedavidhorne8494 2 жыл бұрын

Imagine if the Confederacy had recieved the offer of elephant cavalry instead.... It would of fed them for weeks.

@Tommy-5684 2 жыл бұрын

@@elitedavidhorne8494 at risk of causing a diplomatic incodent though

@austincummins7712 2 жыл бұрын

Lincoln was also a vampire hunter in this timeline I believe- just like they show in the movies.

@keithklassen5320 2 жыл бұрын

Elephant-mounted Maxim guns.

@mulgerbill 2 жыл бұрын

"If we're interested" Sir, there is no IF. Bring as much of this content as you like, this steam era inventiveness is always amazing!

@jwseibert1059 2 жыл бұрын

That took some serious thought and ingenuity to design and build. Makes you wonder how the advancement of firearms had been different if generals and others in charge of military procurement didn't seem to be afraid of change, ammo capacity and firing rate.

@beargillium2369 2 жыл бұрын

Field reliability and cost are bigger factors imo

@moosemaimer 2 жыл бұрын

Back in those days if you had been issued a gun that held 50 rounds, that would have been your annual allowance. "Make it to next year and you'll get a reload."

@salvadorsempere1701 2 жыл бұрын

You mean if they weren´t aware about the fact that every kg of ammo had to be moved on a mule or horse drawn carriage hundreds of kms? Or if they weren´t aware about the fact that they are in Burma and the nearest cartridge manifactury where in Birmingam? Of if they weren´t aware that the ammo load that a soldier can carry was only 60+/- cartridges (because 60 cartidges weights more that 150 30-06)? Or if they weren´t aware about the fact that after firing a short amount of cartidges your firearm will be so fouled that you must expend ten minutes cleaning the fouling? When some militaries think one thing and other another one, some of them can be right and some can be wrong. But when all the militaries in all the world have the same concerns, usually they are based in actual facts. It´s not a coincidence that you don´t see the adoption of repeating firearms till the military have first a decent ferrocaril network and, second, smokeles powder with much lighter cartridges.

@caboosemacs 2 жыл бұрын

@@salvadorsempere1701 Whats a KM? Is that like a couple feet?

@salvadorsempere1701 2 жыл бұрын

@@caboosemacs 1 / 10.000 of the distance from the Earth's equator to the North Pole measured on the median arc through Paris. Something a lot more rational to base an universal sistem of mesurement, instead of relying in the suposed length of a body part of a 1200 years old deceased king. Used in all the countries in the world, except for three backwards ones

@ibgorton 2 жыл бұрын

The complexity almost makes sense if we use this as a scale model and imagine it as a piece of artillery.

@irrelevantsafety 2 жыл бұрын

making a potato gun like this would be fun

@WaukWarrior360 2 жыл бұрын

Not as complicated but look up Eugene Stoners 75mm autocannon. Also, look up how rt4rded the acquisitions department is

@WaukWarrior360 Жыл бұрын

@@smorrow Yes, the Ares Cannon for the HSTV-L/HIMAG. It was a revolutionary design but of course Big Army was too conservative for it.

@HanSolo__ Жыл бұрын

Following the German style, this would need a construction crane for loading each round, and each projectile/shell would have a consecutive number. Each piece would have a bigger diameter due to barrel wear. Three sets of railways are needed. Three locomotives on each side pull the artillery on the tracks. The third one is to provide the ammo.

@HanSolo__ Жыл бұрын

@@WaukWarrior360 There is one modern autocannon double belt-fed with telescopic ammo in 40mm. It uses swing breach as well. It's called 40 CTA, I think. Ps. It is not precisely belt-fed. They call it "CTWS link-less magazine" or something. It is more or less rail on top and the bottom of the ammo in the following ammo feed. There can be multiple such "magazines." Link-less but still looks like a belt.

@natespurgat6245 4 ай бұрын

Ian suddenly develops a third arm to drop the hammer safely without damaging the partly disassembled gun. Nice to see his commitment to not damaging what is likely a one-off firearm design

@Ezekiel_Allium 2 жыл бұрын

"How does your percussion cap system feed" "Oh the striker is manually operated open bolt, of course"

@jamietus1012 2 жыл бұрын

Tube fed revolver is my favourite part

@bad74maverick1 5 ай бұрын

Open bolt!!? It's a machine gun!!! -The ATF

@isaaco5679 2 жыл бұрын

A tube fed, open bolt, muzzleloading, striker fired revolving automatic rifle? Awesome!

@18robsmith 2 жыл бұрын

Real Steam Punk, dating back to the 1850s. Can't get much more real than that. If it weren't for it being a proof of concept that would be truly a spectacular shot - slug lands on the floor, barrel hits the target with great energy :-)

@amschind 2 жыл бұрын

This is strangely similar to an automatic progressive reloading press.

@Uncle_Chag 2 жыл бұрын

How is your comment a month old

@fokjohnpainkiller 2 жыл бұрын

@@Uncle_Chag lurk more

@lairdcummings9092 2 жыл бұрын

@@Uncle_Chag Patreon members get early access.

@semibreve 2 жыл бұрын

Oh my god you're right hahahahahaha

@wolfmann2023 2 жыл бұрын

It looks like it would malfunction under stress, this wepon is truly a forgotten wepon. Thanks for showing the mechanics of this wepon.

@johnathansaegal3156 2 жыл бұрын

08:10... the absolute engineering to get the timing just right for all components/mechanisms is what gets me. No CNC, not prior examples to copy, all of this is handmade (on machines) to be timed perfectly. I was impressed with how well the cylinder locked up tight. There was some brilliance happening when this man designed and built this system. Had the round contained a larger powder load, this could have been a formidable military arm.

@DevinMoorhead 2 жыл бұрын

Well, sir, there's nothin' on Earth like a genuine bona-fide electrified six-car monorail

@ericpode6095 2 жыл бұрын

Monorail !

@MosoKaiser 2 жыл бұрын

Is there a chance the track could bend?

@DevinMoorhead 2 жыл бұрын

Not on your life my kaiser friend

@roadwolf2 2 жыл бұрын

But Main Streets still all cracked and broken

@SnoopReddogg 2 жыл бұрын

Pack your gun, the mob has spoken!

@RabidBadger_ 2 жыл бұрын

This has as much in common with an assembly line as it does with a firearm.

@joshuamefford6944 2 жыл бұрын

This guy was SERIOUSLY ahead of his time. Too bad they never had any fully functional models of this gun. I would love to have this thing shoot!!

@MarkLada 2 жыл бұрын

If you make it, They will buy it..

@pretzelbomb6105 Жыл бұрын

He was ahead of his time in the way only someone of his time could be.

@WhitzWolf92 2 жыл бұрын

This title reads like a Wish listing, just throw in every vaguely related adjective to show up in as many searches as possible. Mr Linder was some kind of mechanical engineer mad scientist! He did a great job managing the complexity, like a lot of individually simple things happening all at once.

@OhioGentlemenArms 2 жыл бұрын

I love all these early repeaters. Before we bought our house I had a meridian triplett and scott that I really loved.

@johnjamieson6368 2 жыл бұрын

I have one of those carbines hanging on my wall. Some day I'm going to make up some rounds to shoot it.

@OhioGentlemenArms 2 жыл бұрын

@@johnjamieson6368 very cool step in history

@nokiot9 2 жыл бұрын

Man how cool would it have been to see this get into production. Or at least have a few working examples. This looks like something hellboy would shoot you with.

@RaptorJesus 2 жыл бұрын

Might need to double or so the round size, and thus also the size of the weapon period, but beyond that I absolutely agree with you.

@GunnerAsch1 2 жыл бұрын

@@RaptorJesus Hellboys version would use 40mm grenades.

@cheyannei5983 2 жыл бұрын

@@GunnerAsch1 Hellboy would be double barrel & cylinder too.

@Quandry1 2 жыл бұрын

Imagine if that thing had made it into something like the civil war...

@Aethgeir 2 жыл бұрын

The amount of mechanical innovation that came out of, "if only we could get more shots in the same gun," is truly extraordinary!

@bacarnal 2 жыл бұрын

Taking it a step further and simplifying it by having the cartridges contain the cap, like the Dreyse needle gun, thus doing away with the cap feed. Interesting weapon concept. Thanks Ian!!

@itsfonk 2 жыл бұрын

I’m imagining a whole series of feverish mechanized dream sequences throughout its development

@markh.6687 2 жыл бұрын

As well as use of Heroin, which was legal at the time. I am unsure that a person NOT under the influence of drugs could have even imagined, let alone built a proof of concept, such a weapon. :)

@nathanabraham8762 2 жыл бұрын

born in 1819 moved to the us in 1950 and became a prolific firearms designer hmmm truly aspiring

@alifr4088 2 жыл бұрын

1950???

@Jacob-pu4zj 2 жыл бұрын

Forget his firearm patents, I want his access to his dietary and exercise regimen!

@UXB1000 2 жыл бұрын

You're never too late to pursue your dreams, even when you're 131 years old. It's around 0:29 for those who are wondering.

@garyowens7454 2 жыл бұрын

@@Jacob-pu4zj Smoked 3 packs of Camel unfiltered a day, also had a pound of bacon and a dozen eggs for breakfast and washed it down with a gallon of white lightning every morning. There was no exercise except for getting up to get a beer every 20 minutes or so throughout the day.. Those guys that get up at 5:00, take a cold shower, and go for a five mile run, then two hours of weight training, while eating kale and bean sprouts? They live to a ripe old age in spite of their daily regimen, not because of it.

@yoyonono51497 2 жыл бұрын

@@garyowens7454 pretty sure the fatties that are similar to the 600 pound life monstrosities are significantly shortening their life’s and would live longer with reasonable diet and exercise. Destiny doesn’t exist and life expectancy grows every year. The human race in 500-1000 years will most likely figure out scientific immortality lol

@h.a.9880 2 жыл бұрын

So basically this is the steampunk version of the lovechild of an HK G11 and a Calico M100? It's a damn shame this never was made fully functional and I'd love to see some modern producer picking up that concept and making a small series of it. I'd never own one, but maybe I could watch Ian mag-dump one of them in a video.

@petesheppard1709 2 жыл бұрын

My brain wanted to melt as Ian described all the Rube Goldbergian machinations that occurred as the lever was pulled back...

@Uncle_Chag 2 жыл бұрын

Nerf: write that down write that down

@9ZweihandeR9 2 жыл бұрын

There is a Nerf gun that does exactly this. It's called the Roundhouse. It has a six shot cylinder feeding from five three shot tube magazines. It shoots the Rival foam balls instead of darts, I don't think the design would work well with darts. I have one and it works pretty well even with 4 shots in each tube. I've been thinking of modifying the followers so that there is room for 5 or 6 in each.

@bryangrote8781 2 жыл бұрын

Weird early repeating firearms are one of the main reasons I got hooked on this channel years ago. Just when you think you’ve seen it all, Ian finds another interesting, ingenious oddball gun.👍

@araknidude 2 жыл бұрын

Every technological advancement made by revolvers each taken to their logical extreme. It’s beautiful.

@Troy665Z 2 жыл бұрын

Out of the 6 or so years of watching this channel, I have to say this is the most interesting rifle concept I've ever seen! It is still complex, but it mechanically makes perfect sense. Just brilliant

@T4nkcommander 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@cody5535 2 жыл бұрын

The paradox of the German is the ability to streamline the over-complicated

@andrewsuryali8540 2 жыл бұрын

Not the other way around?

@garyowens7454 2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewsuryali8540 Both. At the same time.

@geodkyt 2 жыл бұрын

They tend to simplify the mechanisms to carry out fairly complex operations, whilst simultaneously complicating fairly straight forward operations. Like, "We developed a new internal combustion engine with three moving parts, and installed in in a car that has a rear view mirror with 74 individual moving parts and is adjusted by tiny (direct mechanical) linked hat switches on the steering wheel. Oh, and there is a gimballed vase for a rosebud on the dashboard, because, 'Why not?'"

@gordoncroft4524 2 жыл бұрын

@@geodkyt Only to realize that the car can't drive without the rosebud in place due to balance issues.

@geodkyt 2 жыл бұрын

@@gordoncroft4524 LOL

@1SaG 2 жыл бұрын

I guess Mr Lindner subscribed to the old German phrase "Warum einfach wenn's auch kompliziert geht?" Roughly translated: Why make it simple when you can make it complicated? I know it's real easy to judge these things with 150+ years of hindsight, but this, err, contraption (while super interesting) looks almost comically over-engineered next to a Henry.

@T4nkcommander 2 жыл бұрын

It isn't over-engineered if it does a job nothing else can while also not having a simpler solution (at its time period).

@nightdweller2902 2 жыл бұрын

I really wish modern gunsmiths had a greater interest in recreating these sorta unique guns. There would absolutely be a market for them.

@rikimaru_vr 2 жыл бұрын

I was laughing at the part where it took 3 hands to safely drop the striker.

@marpfel 2 жыл бұрын

I first thought it was a miracle by Gun Jesus when the third hand appeared. :D

@crossfirerambo 2 жыл бұрын

Ed: (booming voice) "I'm going to do all the things". What a mad lad

@alexdemoya2119 2 жыл бұрын

That title sounds like something a snakeoil salesman would yell at passers-by

@evandaire1449 2 жыл бұрын

It’s an open bolt, single action only, striker fired, tube magazine fed, caseless cartridge, percussion revolving rifle. What a Rube Goldberg machine of firearms insanity. I LOVE IT.

@Jesses001 2 жыл бұрын

That is one of the most attractive pieces of machinery I have ever seen. I also am sure it had no chance of ever being adopted by any military ever, ha.

@critterjon4061 2 жыл бұрын

- Overly complex - way to many parts - overly engineered Let me guess Germany

@Sarin-Q 2 жыл бұрын

Or perhaps Swiss

@johnstacy7902 2 жыл бұрын

That's racist!!!

@XtreeM_FaiL 2 жыл бұрын

@@Sarin-Q Too simple to be Swiss.

@dominicvucic8654 2 жыл бұрын

@@johnstacy7902 what you can't be racist against white people

@Sarin-Q 2 жыл бұрын

@@johnstacy7902 Perhaps I am racist towards Europeans.

@motog6436 2 жыл бұрын

The amount of research that goes into each of these videos is amazing.

@whitequasar4686 2 жыл бұрын

This seems like an early attempt to make a self loading rifle which Is cool to see firearms tech that is ahead of its time

@DarkestVampire92 2 жыл бұрын

Whenever i see one of these ultra-complicated semi-auto designs, i want to go back in time and show the inventor what smokeless powder is and how to push a piston with its gasses.

@347Jimmy 3 ай бұрын

Lindner held a patent for a gas-operated rifle, dude was way ahead of his time

@dougsteel7414 2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate engineering design that reduces points of failure.

@LazyLifeIFreak 2 жыл бұрын

Praise the Omnisiash for such a glorious invention!

@SirStickBug 5 ай бұрын

8:01 what’s more wild than the man who created this being a time traveler is the fact that Ian grew another hand because the gun was too complicated to demonstrate with just two. Great video, love the content as always.

@pokemon1895 2 жыл бұрын

This was a really fascinating video. I really enjoy seeing the kinds of things people came up with before everything was an AR pattern rifle.

@nobigdill9467 2 жыл бұрын

It’s so strange seeing this in my recommended as last night in the shower I conjured the idea of what if you made some sort of pump action/tube fed revolver rifle. And I knew it would be completely impractical but it just sounded so cool like something out of the Metro series. This is a really strange coincidence.

@Drrolfski 2 жыл бұрын

Seeing this one at the range would be priceless. Hopefully, some dieselpunk game will pick it up sometime.

@TheAssassin409 2 жыл бұрын

this is why i love this channel. where else can you find showcases of super interesting and wacky firearm systems like this?

@williamhart4896 2 жыл бұрын

Quite a piece of hardware for it's time period thanks for your sharing of this prototype .

@dutch4260 2 жыл бұрын

Take a shot every time you hear Ian say "in theory..." On a side note, I'd love to see a steampunk game with a weapon based on this.

@markh.6687 2 жыл бұрын

I'm so drunk, this design now make sense! (HIC!!)

@marshalljohn1175 2 жыл бұрын

Wow Ian! This video just hit every dopamine receptor in my brain! I truly now see why you are called Gun Jesus. I could see this gun being used in a fictionalized steam punk story. Although not perfectly apt, I do catch whiffs of the Hellriegal.

@spleenslitta7595 2 жыл бұрын

I would be very interested to see more of Lindner's contraptions. I have seen the carbine video already. Simply marvelous. Somewhere in germany a gunsmith is salivating all over his keyboard at this very moment.

@macoppy6571 2 жыл бұрын

Solved the spring fed magazine tube issue by separating the striker/primer from the cartridge. Eureka! This is a fantastic machine, that is not a machine gun.

@garyowens7454 2 жыл бұрын

It needs a bayonet, and a pommel you can unscrew to end your enemy rightly.

@nitehawk86 2 жыл бұрын

This is probably what the internals of Squall's gunsword looks like.

@C-Henry 2 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see a skilled machinist recreate this just to see if it could work, but the idea of a chain fire with this system is terrifying in its own right, not sure how likely it would be, but still an unpleasant thought.

@kingnull2697 2 жыл бұрын

Considering it’s a percussion cap system, it’d be extremely unlikely

@ScottKenny1978 2 жыл бұрын

@@kingnull2697 still possible to have some ugliness with flash from the firing chamber catching the stowed rounds in the magazine. IIRC cartridge paper of the time was nitrated so it was basically nitrocellulose.

@stevepalpatine2828 2 жыл бұрын

@@ScottKenny1978 Ouch.

@ScottKenny1978 2 жыл бұрын

@@stevepalpatine2828 yes, but IIRC black powder only goes boom if it's compressed. So it would be more like holding a Roman Candle than a blasting cap.

@eisenkarl1975 2 жыл бұрын

I watched sooo many videos on this channel, but this gun here... just blows my mind. How cool is this? Somewhere a Heckler & Koch engineer is breathing heavily... 🤯

@REXOB9 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for showing us this fantastic firearm. Wow.

@AnonOmis1000 2 жыл бұрын

I don't really see how you could put additional tubes on it. The mechanism ro feed new rounds into the cylinder advances with each pull of the trigger. Of the spot in the cylinder is already full, the gun will just jam.

@keithklassen5320 2 жыл бұрын

It would feed from one magazine at a time: once one emptied, another would be connected to that central loading rod.

@AnonOmis1000 2 жыл бұрын

@@keithklassen5320 what's keeping the followers of the auxiliary tubes from connecting to the central rod?

@kingnull2697 2 жыл бұрын

@@AnonOmis1000 presumably, the user would manually index the tubes, or a link connecting them

@tokencivilian8507 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting stuff. I wonder what would happen with a misfire. If there wasn't a way to clear a misfired cartridge, what would happen when that chamber rotated back around in front of the feed tube? Ditto when it comes time to unload at the end of the day? I wonder what the method was. Interesting piece of equipment Ian.

@reappermen 2 жыл бұрын

From the looks of the mechanism there doesn't seem to be anything from preventing the cylinder to be mounted on a hinge like most revolvers are. If I understand Ians explanations correctly, the cocking lever 'primes' the reloading rod upon cocking and then loads a round on pulling the trigger. So when you get a misfire of the round that is in the 1 chamber at the top, it will put a new round at the 4 chamber at the bottom (it's not blowback operated, so it will load tgat rodund either way). Then it will rotate the cylinder half a turn so your misfired round now sits at the bottom, but will not get a new round feed into it untill you recock and pull the trigger again. That gives you plenty of opportunity to notice misfire, pop the cylinder out on it's hinge, use an implement to push the misifred round out and pop it back in to continue operation like normal.

@dakotahrickard 2 жыл бұрын

@@reappermen Sounds reasonable enough. I was wondering exactly this, and your answer is sensible.

@D3adT0m1 2 жыл бұрын

Been watching Ian's videos for years and this is one of the only times I've seen him visibly have to refer to the script in order to recite something. "tubular-magazine self-priming striker-fired breach-loading percussion revolver" is certainly a mouthfull.

@LTPottenger 2 жыл бұрын

In German it would be worse and all one word!

@TheDeviIDogg 2 жыл бұрын

My great great grandfather was a deputy sheriff in Arizona in the 1890s and my uncle has his revolver, belt with bandolier, badge, and honorable discharge papers from the US Army dated 1919

@scipio10000 2 жыл бұрын

In essence a sort of revolver cannon ante litteram

@undertakernumberone1 2 жыл бұрын

0:35 "He was born in 1819 and emmigrated to the US sometime in the early 1950's", wow at 141 year old, making it through multiple wars AND then designing a percussion revolver in the second half of the 20th century. Impressive.

@markh.6687 2 жыл бұрын

He was a busy man following his particle accelerator accident.

@EvilTwinn 2 жыл бұрын

Now this is a proper Forgotten Weapon! Always love to see the truly weird stuff like this!

@Thomas-np8pi Жыл бұрын

My hobby is military history over the centuries. Forgotten weapons is absolutely something I enjoy because it brings me new things like this.

@andrewstraub131 2 жыл бұрын

Early g11 prototype

@Uncle_Chag 2 жыл бұрын

@@johannesviljoen9656 it’s inventor was German born so yea

@huleyn135 2 жыл бұрын

@@Victor-056 dude was born in prussia. i think it's a tad bit too early to call it "american". not even a second gen immigrant or anything. clearly it's influenced by german engineering trends, 'cuz whaddaya know, the guy is german dunno why americans feel the need to claim everything in the world lol

@Tommy-5684 2 жыл бұрын

@@huleyn135 he was Born in Prussia in 1819 so the US had been an independent nation for 36 years and this gun was invented in 1850 Germany would not becoe a country for another 21 years

@scipio10000 2 жыл бұрын

More steampunk weaponry please ....

@darque1860 2 жыл бұрын

Like a fine watch, intricate, and well thought out. Clean, but complicated. I like it.

@SeidenFisk 2 жыл бұрын

I enjoy all your videos, but these both overcomplicated and ambitious contraptions that were ahead of their time are always my favourites.

@widehotep9257 2 жыл бұрын

Its really amazing how many inventions came from northern Europeans and their descendants. Over 90% of the the most important inventions that changed humanity came from these people. Their ability to mentally visualize and design complexities is truly impressive.

@RaptorJesus 2 жыл бұрын

Ah, Germany. Engineering things far beyond the design capabilities or material strengths available at the time, since time immemorial..

@kylejohnson8387 2 жыл бұрын

For the time period, this is hands down the most interesting Forgotten Weapon I've ever seen. Great watch my dude 👍

@olenilsen4660 7 ай бұрын

You always find the most interesting guns! Thanks!

@user-dm1jw1gy5q 5 ай бұрын

That is an amazing piece of machinery thanks ian!

@dylanmcgregor6496 2 жыл бұрын

That has got to be one of the most interesting firearms I have seen, great episode.

@josuelservin 2 жыл бұрын

A truly amazing forgotten weapon! What a cool, interesting and whacky design.

@tomt810 2 жыл бұрын

What a beautiful contraption!

@mikewinings4120 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely love this simply complicated system,would never work,but great proof of concept,some of which is still working and used!

@exolarthenightwolf 2 жыл бұрын

So if Lindner got a contract he would have eventually invented the assault rifle 90 years ahead of time, what a missed opportunity.

@reappermen 2 жыл бұрын

This thing is not semi automatic, you still have to cock it after every round. Combine That with the underbarrel feed tube, and this is basically the grandfather of the pump action guns. Only practical differnec efor the shooter is that he has a lever instead of a pumping slide to cock and load the gun.