Infantry have a pack on their back so cannot cross carry

on todays episode of "guess what i found at RTI"

@@ripvanwinkle2002 I bought this at auction in France, it wasn't from RTI.

@@ForgottenWeapons i didnt mean to insult i just was referring to your recent trip there.

@@ForgottenWeapons So Ian, it is basically you and the Imperial War museum in the WHOLE WORLD who has these rifles? 😮😮😮Awesome, GG!

Agreed

Or just devout followers of Gun Jesus.

Hey. I was once a very devout Mauser follower until the pro Frog longarms agenda started trickling though the algorithm. 1000 channel hours, one hardback book, and a Gras Cavalry Carbine Later...

@@Joannes808 where the HELL do you find the ammo?!

@@ADHDWOOHOO It's a sexy glorified wall piece for the time being. I originally also wanted to get the 7.35 Carcano, until a close friend who owns a gunshop talked me towards the 6.5 because of how hard it is to find the ammo. He then proceeded to acquire 4 boxes of said 7.35 by mistake instead of the 6.5. I took them anyway because who knows, I may get the rifle for it one day.

Ever thought of saddle holsters like the US cavalry?

@@mikehipperson no nobody ever has

@@mikepette4422 Also german cavallry did lot of Tests, at the end in wwl german horsemen carried their carbine at the sling on Back.

@@mikehipperson The problem with the saddle holster is that if something ever happens to your horse you don't have a way to properly carry your gun. If you lose your horse or it gets shot out form under you, well your rifle is still on your back. Nobody but the US ever really decided it was a good idea. Its much faster to get it out and have it reliably at the ready from your back. The US use of the saddle holster is more of a continuation of settlers using them for their hunting rifle than a great military idea.

@@alexsis1778 What about the British cavalry of the First World War? Rifles were typically slung in a saddle holster, same as their swords... and they were probably the finest, most advanced cavalry in history before mechanisation came to the fore.

Oh... so "fairly sizable".

What a frightening thought

"this is great i've wanted to meet you ian, i've always wondered what you think of the iws 2000!" he ponders for a moment then gestures over to a table "well its a interesting one..." fishes around in his pocket pulls it out putting down "you see this bit..."

You may be confusing him with Paul Harrell, man of unlimited pocket

​@@beargillium2369 He could be pocket carrying two full sized .357 and .44 revolvers with a 50 round box of ammunition for both and you wouldn't know until it was too late.😂

@@Chiller11 Nah, last time he tried that he got mobbed by Mando fans. No more Bergmanns

​@@beargillium2369 perfect reference 👌

I think that has to be true. The Venn diagram is just a circle!

Agree. 😉🇫🇷

It's almost like they invented smokeless Powder

Not sure. Check the date, the manufacture and the serial number : they were made in 1969 only, by the Saint-Etienne manufacture only, and the serial number must be under 12 000. If yours have the swivel on the trigger guard and the reinforcement on the wrist, a serial number 3545, it could be one. Just have a look at the prefix letter, Saint-Etienne never had the O, but a Q. If your rifle meets these three conditions, then you're a lucky guy as many were converted to the infantry rifle standards in 1872

Don' t think so, a firearm without ammunition is for poor people not usefull, may be there are some, which are transformed to fire other cartridges

@@brittakriep2938 Given that we're still seeing STG44s show up in random African and middle east insurgencies, I'm sure there's probably some source of ammunition, either craft made locally or some ancient stock.

@@TacgnolSimulacrum : To some degree you are right . In case of 8 (7, 92 ) x 33 reloading empty brass, or using obscure surplus is possible. Also a jugoslavian /serbian company Prvi Partizan has assumingly produced this cartridge after wwll, also it is possible to transform 8x 57 IS Brass, in german language culture circle still popular among hunters , is possible. I, german, Brittas boyfriend, am no weapons expert, but somewhere i read, that in Germany, either in Saxony or Thuringia, there is one day every year a , Dreyse Rifle Meeting' . The paper cartridges are handmade by members of Target Shooters Club. Also years ago, i read in a german language arms magazine, an article about an african craftsman, who has a licence for producing muzzleloaders. He spoke about Kunstdünger/ chemical fertilizers (?) and oil as substitute for Black Powder. Also, here in Germany still today, blanks in 6 mm Flobert, 9 mm R, and 9 mm PAK are licencefree to buy.

@@brittakriep2938 It's not impossible that they converted it to a more readily available cartridge. Of course, there's always the chance that a cottage industry popped up to produce some form of cartridges for the old rifles. They might not be exactly like the proper French loads, but people tend to be smart enough to work around issues like that. Or there may just be some that were passed down through the family and kept as decorations that haven't been fired in decades.

@@SergeiMosin : Both is possible. African craftsmen can do rather astonishing work. Sometimes shot out ( in german ausgeschlossene} rifle barrels had been drilled to transform a rifle into a shotgun. And here in Germany many noblemen still have swords, lances, armour and old firearms of their ancestors. ( But nowadays noblemen have problems to keep and repair their castles, so even nobles of high rank sometimes sell much old weapons to earn Money).

Same. I'm just another nerd, but I like high-quality enthusiastic content. So I happily watched it out to the end. (I wished they had televised content like this in the old days.📺)

That sounds like a nightmare to do lol

You always teach me stuff I don't know about the transition from needle guns to brass ammo.

Find a MAS 36 at a decent price is still easy, you have plenty here in France for around 500 euros, except if it's a pre-war made rifle, much more expensive. The MAS 49-56, a fine weapon I used when I was in the army, is hard to find, though a big bunch found its way to the US

Yes.

It is, though quite unlikely. The African cavalry rifle was made in 1869 only, by the Imperial Manufacture of Saint-Etienne only, and its serial number should be under 12 000, with the Q prefix letter. As a lot of them were converted to the infantry rifle standards, and knowing that some Chassepots were converted to Gras, yes it is possible. But indeed, it's definitely very unlikely

It was considered, but rejected. Probably because there was no standard bent bolt at that point and they didn't want to take the time needed to develop one with its tooling.

im surprised the ethiopians didn't lol if that's where this game from im guessing

@@ForgottenWeapons If you consider the Chassepot system, that's quite not correct. The cavalry carbine did have a bent bolt handle

14 of July is not the Bastille day : it's Federation feast anniversary day in french history

FYI it's "Martial" not ""Marshall"

@@davem2369 so it is

It's all a clever ploy to avoid being profiled as an Aristo, thereby avoiding the Committee for Public Safety and the Guillotine...

May be not. A 1874 Gras M80 is only a Gras rifle modified in 1880 by cutting a gas notch in the receiver and a modified bolt head. And no Gras rifle never had a reinforcing piece. Your friend only has a standard Gras 1874-80 rifle, the most common of all the Gras system weapons

Could you explain your problem and tell me more ? I never had the slightest problem when manipulating my own Chassepot and Gras. Mays be you just don't know how to do... but it's easy, believe me !

Not even close. You have only the infantry rifle, 1st and 2nd versions, the cavalry rifle, the cavalry/mounted gendarmerie carbine and the artillery musketoon. Enough to make a collection on their own