MAC 1950: Disassembly & History

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The PA MAC 1950 (Pistolet Automatique Modele 1950) was the result of a 1946 French effort to standardize on a single military pistol. By the end of WWII, the French military had accumulated a mess of different pistols of French, Spanish, American, and German origin; officially using the Luger, P38, Mauser HSc, 1911 (and A1), 1935A, 1935S, Star, Ruby, and Model 1892 revolver.
Trials were held in 1950, although the outcome was predetermined - this pistol, designed by St Etienne and largely derived from the Model 1935S, was to be the next French military sidearm. A design from the SACM company was also tested, as was a commercially purchased SIG SP47/8, but this was for comparison sake only. In fact, the SIG was the best performer in the testing, with the St Etienne design suffering from cracked parts and durability problems. It would be improved, however, and deemed suitable for adoption by early 1951.
Production began in 1953 at the Chatellerault arsenal (hence the "MAC" name used in the US). All of 221,900 were made by Chatellerault until it was shut down in 1963, when production transferred to St Etienne, where another 120,000 would be made by 1978.
Mechanically, the gun is largely taken form the Browning 1911, with a few improvements. The recoil spring is of a captive design, and the fire control group is all built into a single easily replaced unit (similar to the Tokarev and the 1935S). It is single action only, with hammer-block and magazine safeties and a 9-round magazine of standard 9x19mm ammunition. It is still in French service, having proven to be a reliable and dependable weapon, if outdated by today's standards.
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@PolsProductions
@PolsProductions 7 жыл бұрын
"The call it LE big mac"
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 7 жыл бұрын
+Kawaiiser Wilhelm II Von Hohenzollern Somebody didn't get the reference
@psychologiccallynuts
@psychologiccallynuts 7 жыл бұрын
250 is 1/2 of 500, doh! Don't worry, we have burgers that size too.
@bborkzilla
@bborkzilla 7 жыл бұрын
All of a sudden I want a Royale with Cheese.
@monroetoolman
@monroetoolman 7 жыл бұрын
"Mayonaise. They pour that shit on everything."
@-Zakhiel-
@-Zakhiel- 6 жыл бұрын
Ils citaient Pulp Fiction espèce de lâche impoli...
@nsxfan16
@nsxfan16 7 жыл бұрын
this pistol was still in service in the french airforce in 2012/13, i enlisted in 2010 and got to use it for two/three years. Kind of a long service life for such an old design but i liked it! We then got the PA MAS G1 as a replacement which is basically a license built beretta 92.
@Herr_Grimm
@Herr_Grimm 6 жыл бұрын
we still use it in the reserve ^^
@joehentalack2443
@joehentalack2443 5 жыл бұрын
J'ai été PARA,de 81à 87(Gabon et Tchad)J'avais un FUSIL FRF1 et un PA(53.FG.6665).9éme RCP/PAMIERS/3me CIE.
@_Mezzanine
@_Mezzanine 5 жыл бұрын
Being in the french military in the 503 train regiment it is 2019 and we still have some of them in service
@khaledbaadarani
@khaledbaadarani 4 жыл бұрын
@@Herr_Grimm M1950 is still used in the french army
@alaincharlesleroy87
@alaincharlesleroy87 4 жыл бұрын
I used it in the french Army (1979/1987) with the STAR B model only in 1982 (regiment : the 4RIMA-2RPIMA-3RIMA-72RIMA)
@laurent214
@laurent214 7 жыл бұрын
Wow! This use to be my service pistol in the French gendarmerie from 1993 to 1999!
@danielvarese4593
@danielvarese4593 4 жыл бұрын
Maintenant on a les sig !
@laurent214
@laurent214 4 жыл бұрын
Maurice Banane duh!
@Chironex_Fleckeri
@Chironex_Fleckeri 3 жыл бұрын
@@laurent214 Were you a fan of it? Was there something you'd have rather carried?
@laurent214
@laurent214 3 жыл бұрын
@@Chironex_Fleckeri Not really a fan, it was old , even in 1994 it was 44 years old , holded only 8 rounds and gave me severe hammer bites. I carried it from til 1999 and got a beretta 92 as a replacement, a welcome upgrade!
@The6568
@The6568 Жыл бұрын
@@laurent214 Pas du tout d'accord. Mais je suis plus vieux. Ce flingue n'est pas un FM, alors les 8 coups, c'est suffisant. du point de vue nettoyage et nombre de pièces démontées, il est rudement bien pensé…
@ronaldcolman6211
@ronaldcolman6211 7 жыл бұрын
Mix of 1911, and TT33 neat!
@ironwolfF1
@ironwolfF1 7 жыл бұрын
'Obsolete'... squeezes trigger... *BANG*... bad guy falls over dead. Works for me. ;-)
@matthewpham9525
@matthewpham9525 7 жыл бұрын
ironwolfF1 Apparently, the pistols service life was super long, not the design, just the pistols. So it's possible to serve in Afghanistan using a pistol that was in Indochina. Which means it might blow up in your hand :)
@MrSebfrench76
@MrSebfrench76 7 жыл бұрын
you made my day with this one !
@hjorturerlend
@hjorturerlend 7 жыл бұрын
Well, a windlass crossbow is just as lethal today as it was during the Hussite wars x)
@Briselance
@Briselance 7 жыл бұрын
Kawaiiser Wilhelm II Von Hohenzollern Except than this gun has nothing common with the windlass crossbow, Sein Majestat. :-)
@ironwolfF1
@ironwolfF1 7 жыл бұрын
True, the crossbow is much, much quieter. ;-p
@Olivier-C
@Olivier-C 7 жыл бұрын
I remember I fired this one in 1996-1997, as a conscript in the french army, so at this time they were still widely in use. Was simply called a "PA", or "PA 9mm".
@swietoslaw
@swietoslaw 7 жыл бұрын
My friend in foreign legion train whit pistol this right now :P But maybe they get older stuff.
@archimaede
@archimaede 7 жыл бұрын
You're sure he doesn't have the PAMAS instead?
@alexanderm3504
@alexanderm3504 7 жыл бұрын
swietoslaw Indeed, this will be the handgun to use by the Legion, the "PAMAS" is kind of the same thing.
@Olivier-C
@Olivier-C 7 жыл бұрын
It's quite possible they are still using the old PA for training, if taken good care of, and only travelling between the armory and the shooting range, I guess these pistols could last almost forever ?
@alexanderm3504
@alexanderm3504 7 жыл бұрын
Olivier C If you dont mind, were you in the legion? If so, I'm going to Fort Nogant in Paris
@MrSebfrench76
@MrSebfrench76 7 жыл бұрын
From a frog ,thank you Ian , for your continuous efforts at talking of french guns.We really appreciate your fair views (remember the Chauchat...?)
@louischristianclauss5039
@louischristianclauss5039 4 жыл бұрын
As a french officer I had the pleasure to shoot the MAC50, great gun !!!
@Regolith86
@Regolith86 7 жыл бұрын
5:09 If I ever start a gun company, I'm doing my serial numbers in hexadecimal.
@ludovicdauphin2960
@ludovicdauphin2960 4 жыл бұрын
My dad very quickly handled that gun to me when I was a kid back in the early 80’ while he was in the military . It was a stainless steel version I remember . It was in a military show (défilé) and the gun was safe to handle . I have got all the service technical blue print of that gun , as well as the Famas and other french guns . I wish I had one too ...
@sergeantbigmac
@sergeantbigmac 6 жыл бұрын
That fire control group 'block' is really slick, reminds me of the Tokarev design, which ironically (or not?) is also an improvement on the 1911... I wish more guns were designed this way. It seems to me that once the basic mechanism to get a semi-auto pistol to work right (ie short recoil) was realized more manufacturers shouldve worked on simplifying things for ease of user use.
@sergeantbigmac
@sergeantbigmac 10 ай бұрын
@@justforever96 A) I made this comment half a decade ago so thanks for the refresh I guess and B) I never said Glocks were complicated what the hell? And ironically since posting this guns like the Sig P320 and Springfiled Echelon have released that like this one have seperate fire control groups for simplified user maintanence and replacement parts. Im glad companies have taken cues from what works well.
@user-sn8zs9yn5c
@user-sn8zs9yn5c 7 жыл бұрын
Well, I really appreciate the look of a 50s military handgun like this, an P210 or an vz.52. They got all this kind of second look beauty.
@MrSebfrench76
@MrSebfrench76 7 жыл бұрын
Pronuncing "Chatellerault" correctly like you did it brillantly , is amongst the top 5 "french words impossible to pronunce for a US guy " , hehe
@Williamgazette
@Williamgazette 4 жыл бұрын
hehe
@joshglover2370
@joshglover2370 4 жыл бұрын
Why can't French people spell? 😕 The language makes no sense! 😫
@hailexiao2770
@hailexiao2770 3 жыл бұрын
It's not too bad if you transliterate it from the Russian on all those early French Mosins. It's literally just "Shatelero" in Cyrillic.
@deader0798
@deader0798 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshglover2370 I'm sorry, c'est la vie ;) (I'm French and I don't even understand my own language Monsieur XD)
@nicomasanori5205
@nicomasanori5205 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshglover2370 It makes sense. The particular spelling results in pronunciations that are slightly different in addition to being a heritage from Old French. Town names are often names made up of several adjectives in Old French which gives meaning to the history and geography of the place.
@malevolentburrito
@malevolentburrito 7 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna need one of those hoodies.
@daktari
@daktari 7 жыл бұрын
The reason those weren't really exported was mostly because they were shot until they were unsafe for use. They entered service in the 1950s and were replaced in the 2010s. You can find a lot of pictures of French officers with MAC50s on their vests in Afghanistan in 2005-2010. They were replaced mostly because the Gendarmerie replaced them with the Sig SP2022, so the MAS G1 moved down to the Army, and the Navy replaced them with the HK USP. There probably are a few still floating around in the armed forces, plus the ones they just locked away. They mostly ended up with smooth barrels and loose-fitting parts, and those models get destroyed.
@JerryEricsson
@JerryEricsson 7 жыл бұрын
The color of the slide reminds me very much of what happened every time I tried to blue an Engfield 1917 that I had used to build up a magnum rifle, the actions were great, strong, and could easily handle the belted magnum cases, but something to do with either the alloy or the heat treatment left them in that color when they were put through the standard hot bluing bath.
@93KAPLAN
@93KAPLAN 5 жыл бұрын
In french army in 1980 that was my gun we named "PA" as Pistolet Automatique (I never heard the name of MAC 50 before this video). That was the own gun for soldier like me who used 12,7mm (cal 50) .
@adrianleeds3468
@adrianleeds3468 4 ай бұрын
I didn't know this gun existed until yesterday. Thanks, Ian 👍
@polarbear3306
@polarbear3306 7 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say that I have enjoyed ALL your videos (even the ones that are very technical and way beyond my ability to follow). You are knowledgible, courteous, engaging and never talk down to your audience. You keep making videos and I'll keep watching! THANK YOU! Yes I am one of your Patreon subscribers (everyone should do that too).
@troy9477
@troy9477 7 жыл бұрын
Looks like a good design for the time. It's always interesting to see what designers were thinking decade by decade. Of course it is single stack, as almost everything was back then. Makes perfect sense to standardize to one pistol in 9mm back then. The 32 and 380 had shown their shortcomings as service cartridges by then, and compactness was not needed. Great video as always
@Liam-B
@Liam-B 7 жыл бұрын
Why don't more handguns have a mainspring/hammer spring housing module like that? Really awesome feature.
@trooperdgb9722
@trooperdgb9722 2 жыл бұрын
Does make it a bit harder to optimise mainspring weight.....I imagine taking that unitised group apart would be.... complicated.
@aniquinstark4347
@aniquinstark4347 Жыл бұрын
​@@trooperdgb9722In most cases, armorers would replace the whole packet rather than modifying it. It's wasteful but time efficient.
@Belano1911
@Belano1911 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Ian for this video and all the others that you have recorded. I find it very interesting to learn about weapons of past times particularly those which for various reasons were not successful! The technical blind alleys and wrong turns in design of the past e.g. the Gyrojet and the Tround system are very illuminating. Thank you again.
@SomeGuyInSandy
@SomeGuyInSandy 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, I like how the FCG pulls right out of the handle! Cool pistol, thanks for showing it.
@rogerwennstrom6677
@rogerwennstrom6677 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that fire control group really makes the gun. Neat gun overall, except perhaps that clunky looking safety.
@ZGryphon
@ZGryphon 7 жыл бұрын
The Tokarev TT-33 does a similar sort of thing. OTOH, the TT-33 very much does _not_ have a captive recoil spring, which makes getting it to the point where you can replace that easily replaced hammer group a huge pain in the butt. ;)
@EDSKaR
@EDSKaR 7 жыл бұрын
That brown finish on the slide is beautiful.
@alanchihuaha7237
@alanchihuaha7237 7 жыл бұрын
The early bird gets the gun history lesson.
@Maki_Nishikino89
@Maki_Nishikino89 7 жыл бұрын
Yup, 7 AM here in Texas. :D
@Yamswool
@Yamswool 7 жыл бұрын
Alan Chihuaha 8:24AM here.
@kylec.6818
@kylec.6818 7 жыл бұрын
Damn im late to the party 9:14 here in Georgia.
@TheLastPariah89
@TheLastPariah89 7 жыл бұрын
Hello from the future, right now it is 09:19am 28/02/2017 here in Auckland.
@reaperaf9511
@reaperaf9511 7 жыл бұрын
sharkfinbite its 5:27 pm here in Texas... (monday, feb 27th, 2017)
@iroquoisplissken3583
@iroquoisplissken3583 6 жыл бұрын
I freaking love this channel, like for real it's so good
@sethrich5998
@sethrich5998 7 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that the 1935 model trials selected what become known as the M1935A as the primary service pistol, selecting the M1935S only as an approved alternate model after the fact. Then Sig buys the patents to the 1935A which becomes the Sig P210 and loses the trials to what is essentially an updated 1935S. The French basically reversed their trials decision from 1935. I'd love to see a full video on the two 1935's, from my research they seem to have an interesting history. Essentially .30 Pedersen 1911's. Then again I might be biased, currently bidding on a pair of 1935's, an A & S model. Perfect timing on this video Ian.
@charlesbronson3933
@charlesbronson3933 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight on such a rare pistol!
@nicomasanori5205
@nicomasanori5205 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great efforts of pronunciations. It's a great effort that I thank and which makes the video more enjoyable.
@tooties545
@tooties545 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Always interesting and informative.
@brianfuller5868
@brianfuller5868 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Ian
@TheHunterWulf
@TheHunterWulf 5 жыл бұрын
The purplish-red of the slide and slide stop is likely caused by "plumming" (so named as the resulting color often resembles that of a plum) which can be caused when steel is blued at too low a temp, for too short a time, if the metal is extremely hard, or simply with certain compositions of steel. Winchester Nickel Steel shotgun barrels and Colt revolver cylinder latches, as well as several Soviet firearms, are notorious for this when reblued. Over time the "plum" bluing can fade from a very dark purple-red (it can often be hard to tell from a propperly blued piece at a first glance) to a much lighter and more vibrant color.
@Bananeisafree
@Bananeisafree 7 жыл бұрын
Très magnifique !
@costantinoandruzzi2219
@costantinoandruzzi2219 7 жыл бұрын
It's also reminescent (grips and shape in particular) of the Beretta M51, which was developed more or less in the same period of time.
@Raizinghell21
@Raizinghell21 6 жыл бұрын
"...Now on a 1911, you'd have a bunch of small parts that make up the fire control group" Yeah, that's never fun to take apart, I wonder what they did to impr- *just casually remove the ENTIRE fire control group* That's a slick improvement, legitimately made me shout "What the hell" at my screen, fantastic vid.
@JTD19881369
@JTD19881369 7 жыл бұрын
what an interesting weapon to start my day.
@thegoldencaulk2742
@thegoldencaulk2742 7 жыл бұрын
11:08 Wow, that was real neat! The French were some real smarty-pants when it came to guns
@nicomasanori5205
@nicomasanori5205 2 жыл бұрын
Merci beaucoup !
@thetruthexperiment
@thetruthexperiment 5 жыл бұрын
That finish is pretty cool
@tinuraviel9507
@tinuraviel9507 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Ian !! Thanks for your channel, mostly appreaciated here in France. I will add you some infos to your video about the MAC50 as i used (it and still use it) as a service pistol in the army. This gun is still in active service in the Army but currently replaced by MAS G1 wich is a under licence french made Bereta 92 automic pistol for combat troops and the air force. French navy is using a different one and now either police and Gendarmerie use Sig 2022. Special forces in their side mostly use Glock 17. The slide finish should be mat grey like the rest of the body it is the standart patern. I think the slide on this one was re finnished in this brown/brass color later. In use we weren't fully loading the magazines, only up to 8 rounds. Loading at 9 rounds will cause some damages to the magazon spring and / or feed incidents. Lastly the loading indicator also serves as an extractor if i remember correctly.
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting color on the slide!
@superlegomoose
@superlegomoose 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Ian! Haven't watched it yet, but I just want to thank you for all you do!
@joebfnl1079
@joebfnl1079 3 жыл бұрын
I do concur with you about the not so blue, bluing on the slide assembly!. It's a pity that you don't see more of this kind of bluing on weapons today!. But! All the good weapons were built before the 70's!.
@darnacb
@darnacb 14 күн бұрын
Just saw this pistol in "Monsieur Spade" and had to look it up. "I'll bet Ian has a video on this, " I said to myself. Of course he does.
@kentin27v
@kentin27v 5 жыл бұрын
Et merci au gars qui a fait les sous-titres, mon héro :)
@xGSFxGoat
@xGSFxGoat 5 жыл бұрын
When the furnace breaks so you gotta wear two hoodies indoors
@Regulareverydaynormalguy1
@Regulareverydaynormalguy1 3 жыл бұрын
Oh that's pretty good looking. I think I might need one.
@keenanmcbreen7073
@keenanmcbreen7073 2 жыл бұрын
That unitized hammer assembly is pretty cool, didnt know any pistol was like that.
@drmaudio
@drmaudio 7 жыл бұрын
I do like the finish. It looks like they rust blued, but stabilized with oil or something instead of boiling. I don't know, but I do like it.
@The6568
@The6568 Жыл бұрын
One of the best guns in the world, with the Beretta.
@bryanthebryan2638
@bryanthebryan2638 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, that takedown. I'm impressed.
@rbilzing
@rbilzing 6 жыл бұрын
When I was a lot younger, I had a pistol that, if I recall correctly, was a MAS 58 or MAB 58. I'd like to get your impressions of that model as I could not seem to miss with it if I had wanted to. It is long gone, but fondly remembered.
@markcoffman9522
@markcoffman9522 7 жыл бұрын
Ian, I am not sure why, but the red-brown coloring is due to the make-up of the steel. For whatever reason black oxide some times comes out that color. Used to have that issue with the Mod 37 Winchester shotgun receiver when re-bluing. There must be a way Winchester got around the problem, but probably a cost issue with the 1950. Thanks for another great vid!
@FSMonster
@FSMonster 7 жыл бұрын
Mark Coffman - isn't it achieved by heating the steel in an oven?
@markcoffman9522
@markcoffman9522 7 жыл бұрын
Not in my experience, but could be. Most firearms are blackened by using a black oxide process, and sometimes due to the make up of the steel they come out reddish.
@SNOUPS4
@SNOUPS4 7 жыл бұрын
You forgot one syllab at the end of the word for a pistol: "PistolET automatique" which is in an english vocal transliteration "pee-sto-lAY otomah-tic" :) (edit: you do say it perfectly in the shooting video) This being said, thank you for another très magnifique video, Ian!
@gwenaelconan4016
@gwenaelconan4016 11 ай бұрын
I remember the adjudant: " Aim at the knees and you put the bullet in the belly" "Aim at the groins and you put the bullet into his heart."
@toto3292
@toto3292 3 жыл бұрын
♥️♥️♥️ it was MY pistol in french police riot unit till 2005... Replaced by the Sig Sauer 2022 now.... I regret it soooo much ...
@juraijmusa570
@juraijmusa570 3 жыл бұрын
I got great knowledge from you
@jeromeamblard6811
@jeromeamblard6811 2 жыл бұрын
In 1993, i had one during my military service, i was " tireur lance roquette antichar LRA79", and for personnal défense 've got mac50
@LeFeuauxpoudres
@LeFeuauxpoudres 7 жыл бұрын
In 2004, when I was trained in Gendarmerie, I was using it. That was just before the Sig P220 was going to replace the Beretta. So Beretta was going to replace MAC50 for reserve units.
@jeremieheintz9286
@jeremieheintz9286 7 жыл бұрын
In France we just say pamac. It was not totally remplaced by the pa mas g1 (copy of the beretta 92). There is more pa mac than pa mas so it s use a lot specially with the military patrols on towns against terrorism. As a weapon it's a shit no double action, 9 rounds, older than my father and use by thousands of conscripts, .... but the remplacement is not new, the pa mas g1 are olds pistols from gendarmerie. They switch with sig 2022 and give us old ones.
@Briselance
@Briselance 7 жыл бұрын
jeremie heintz Honestly, why does the gun's age matter? 9 rounds only? Well, can't we have it modified to have more rounds per mag? As long as we have quality spare parts (and it seems incredibly simple and easy and cheap to produce those, as the design seems simple), why "fixing something that ain't broken"?
@jeremieheintz9286
@jeremieheintz9286 7 жыл бұрын
Briseur De Lance His model have been well maintened maybe upgrade ( ceracotage on upper). When it s a gun use by undred or thousand conscripts before you, age does matter. There is no upgrade for this gun because, mac or mas don t exist anymore and there is no demand by civil market. When you use it you are very lucky when you have 2 mags. The security is not easy to find when you are in a rush, no double action it s bad for a modern combat gun. Guns and parts are"tired", the joke is don t shoot, throw him in the face of the opponent it will be more effective.
@Briselance
@Briselance 7 жыл бұрын
"When it s a gun use by undred or thousand conscripts before you, age does matter. " Per se, it has nothing to do with age, but with the availability of brand-new, quality-made spare parts to compensate the equipment fatigue due to its use. Security uneasy to find in a rush? No double action? True, those are a bother.. But that is nothing armourers and gun-designers can't solve, is it? What I think this gun needs is just a set of unextensive upgrades and modifications, which has been done before for other guns, in other countries. But as you point it, MAC and MAS don't exist anymore, and there is alas currently no political will to make it possible. :-(
@RebSike
@RebSike 7 жыл бұрын
Seeing Browning based pistols like this makes me wonder how Browning himself would have further developed the Browning platform if he had the lifespan. Would he have seen the MAC pistols and changed the internals to be removable in the same easy way? JMB was a genius, who knows what he would've done next
@davidzyla2770
@davidzyla2770 3 жыл бұрын
It took me forever to find videos on this. They always trained us it was the pa50. Talk about a well adopted nickname.
@gunnsmith1
@gunnsmith1 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding the color of the slide, blueimg will fade to that color on certain gun steels. I've also seen this happen on old Italian pocket pistols like the Tanfoglio (FIE) Titan .380. I also discovered back when I was a young gunsmith apprentice that Post-64 Winchester 94 rifle actions will do the same thing if they are refinished with conventional hot blueing processes .
@jameskazd9951
@jameskazd9951 3 жыл бұрын
thats a nifty disassembly
@ChaosPootato
@ChaosPootato 7 жыл бұрын
I really like the way you pronounce those French names haha :D As a French guy, I appreciate the effort
@Jesses001
@Jesses001 7 жыл бұрын
I like this design. It is really easy to replace parts, very easy to take apart and maintain. The only thing it needs to be a wonderful pistol is a better safety system. I have seen that finish before. It is a patina that occurs on deeply blued finishes. It can only happen if the bluing process was a bit hotter then average. I love it and want any thing I see it on, which is not a lot of things as it is something that must occur natural under specific conditions.
@DashRendar308
@DashRendar308 7 жыл бұрын
The firing pin and safety switch are also very easy to take out.
@madmatt59416
@madmatt59416 7 жыл бұрын
Could you perhaps do a video on the SIG P210 in the future? Excellent channel by the way!
@Landsharkhobo
@Landsharkhobo 7 жыл бұрын
a good looking gun!
@RegretsnothinG7
@RegretsnothinG7 7 жыл бұрын
Beautiful looking piece, there's something oddly appealing about worn steel finishes and retro plastics, shame this example was a bit behind the curve, considering the Hi-Power would have been a battle proven design at the time. On the subject of sidearms found in the Vietnam theatre of war, do you think you would ever get the chance to have a look at a Navy SEAL Mk.22. It's something there's not a lot of high quality visual references for. Keep up the good work Ian.
@evilcowboy
@evilcowboy 6 жыл бұрын
The color is due to the difference in steel used before bluing. I have hot blued a slide that retained that type of color but is is an uncontrollable result and only happens when there is a slight excess of silica in the steel. Generally it comes out pretty dark and passes for normal bluing however that kind of plum look comes out over time. You could hot blue the slide 1000 times and the result would be the same. Originally when I got it I thought I had done something wrong but others noticed it on S&W pistols made around the 70's. Some people have grown to like it while others do not. I think it does add a bit of character to the slide and I don't mind it but the gun I was making was a two tone 1911 that was silver and black so having a plum color slide did not match up to what I wanted. I guess if someone bothered to introduce more silica to steel stock while it is being melted then you could have a more controllable result but that would require too much time and money for any manufacturer to practically do that for a cosmetic result. Steel can have so many different colors and it is amazing the different colors you ca get from different methods. Ultimately to get around it I chose to not hot blue the slide but to parkerize the slide as this produced the darkest black and it turned out very well.
@ChewbacaTW
@ChewbacaTW 7 жыл бұрын
Aside from the slide control, it's quite a handsome pistol.
@PalmettoNDN
@PalmettoNDN 4 жыл бұрын
11:08 - The real good idea fairy gives some inspiration for once. What a wonderful departure from his more common evil twin.
@GregsGruns
@GregsGruns 7 жыл бұрын
I love seeing these French guns. Ian, do you have any experience with the MR73 Manhurin revolver? Its one of my favorites.
@lhlbrente
@lhlbrente 7 жыл бұрын
The gun s matching the logo on the hoodie . NICE
@hristo.bogdanov
@hristo.bogdanov 7 жыл бұрын
Int-a-like as almost every video on that channel.
@jackpopinski8330
@jackpopinski8330 7 жыл бұрын
Dear Ian, I have heard you say P210 is so great, time to show it to us I think? please?? thanks for all the video's love them and keep them coming :)
@bastabbiswas3885
@bastabbiswas3885 2 жыл бұрын
Wow...now that's cool
@superlegomoose
@superlegomoose 7 жыл бұрын
Gotta get me one of those hoodies!
@Py7h0N357
@Py7h0N357 7 жыл бұрын
We call them "Mac 50" usually :) PA MAC50 would be its official name I guess, but HOW IN THE WORLD HAVE YOU MANAGED to get your hands on one??? these are beyond Rarity ^^
@jeremieheintz9286
@jeremieheintz9286 7 жыл бұрын
It s not sell for the civil market
@aquadragon1
@aquadragon1 7 жыл бұрын
Nothing is to rare for the all mighty Gun Jesus you infidel !! Rare is a term that has only meaning to mere mortals.
@TheKemist87
@TheKemist87 7 жыл бұрын
It might have been captured in Vietnam (as he mentioned in video) or just a museum piece
@XLupin
@XLupin 7 жыл бұрын
They pop up occasionally, but sell well into the thousands of dollars.
@nindger4270
@nindger4270 7 жыл бұрын
Py7h0n There were more than 350.000 of these manufactured, are they really that rare? Are the export laws in France that strict or...?
@rullow86
@rullow86 7 жыл бұрын
Great thanks Yan ! :) I am lookin for one of those for few years... rarely they are available but the price tag of 1000 US is quite limiting....... hopefully French will stop sitting on their stocks and give some of those for sale... And more French guns :D thats what I like :) And thanks for the marvellous job you re doing ;)
@Smirkku
@Smirkku 7 жыл бұрын
Please no dislikes to this video, that gun is awesome.
@homesqueeze1692
@homesqueeze1692 7 жыл бұрын
Man, when you pulled out that fcg i was like; DAAAAMN!
@abalcerzak1931
@abalcerzak1931 7 жыл бұрын
"Très magnifique !" x)
@Rafferty1968
@Rafferty1968 5 жыл бұрын
Really like the red brown finish. Is it me or is the grip reminiscent of the P-38?
@armalikaen
@armalikaen 7 жыл бұрын
I think the drop-in fire control concept was borrowed from Tokarev tt-33 pistol wich the french definitly had their hand on after WWII.
@Bluematchhead
@Bluematchhead 7 жыл бұрын
Another great video, Ian! Gotta get me one of those slick hooded sweatshirts, though. They have them in olive drab? Probably just black. Regardless, keep it up, man!
@justinsmith4583
@justinsmith4583 7 ай бұрын
I recently acquired one, very low serial A0731.
@douro20
@douro20 6 жыл бұрын
The successor pistol to this one, the PAMAS G1, differs from the Beretta 92 in one way: it has no manual safety, the lever on the slide acting only as a decocker. About 100,000 of the guns were issued, after which GIAT designed an improved version with a different decocking lever and a stronger slide known as the G1S.
@waynejohnston8769
@waynejohnston8769 11 ай бұрын
Ian,just seen a video posted by NAVY Arms in West Virginia- they just imported a batch of these ( Mac 1950 ) pistols.
@AtlasJotun
@AtlasJotun 3 жыл бұрын
Holy mackerel! I was somewhat ambivalent about the gun, seeing it as a quasi-modernized 1911. The nice captive recoil spring wasn't enough to make up for the rudimentary and awkwardly-positioned safety. Then the Gun Jesus lifted the f.c.g. out in one fell swoop and my mouth fell agape. Fine, it's awesome. Off to watch the 2-G match!
@RafaAelM
@RafaAelM 7 жыл бұрын
Link is off. Also the single unit on the action is very cool
@maxlindqvist5732
@maxlindqvist5732 7 жыл бұрын
Hi man, love your videos. I was wondering if you guys are ever going to review a Suomi KP? I've heard that it was really a horrible SMG that just had to do for the Finns. Keep up the good work and I hope to hear from you again.
@ae1aea363
@ae1aea363 7 жыл бұрын
Max Lindqvist he's already done one!
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 7 жыл бұрын
It was the Cadillac of SMG's and was simply too expensive to produce and very heavy. Just about zero recoil and exceptionally accurate. I have three cut up parts kits and the machining quality is superb. The progression of the design became the Soviet PPSH-41 and PPS-43.
@TheBroDude777
@TheBroDude777 7 жыл бұрын
The link says that the video is not available.
@jagx234
@jagx234 7 жыл бұрын
Reace Foster I got the same message. Maybe it's still compiling on the KZfaq server?
@eRahja
@eRahja 7 жыл бұрын
Reace Foster same
@contactacb
@contactacb 7 жыл бұрын
Try here instead www.full30.com/video/d8b189ca89a6a510d0613e3a109a1f88
@Simon19622
@Simon19622 7 жыл бұрын
contactacb gf
@viperscot1
@viperscot1 7 жыл бұрын
thanks
@piritskenyer
@piritskenyer 7 жыл бұрын
Dear Ian! Just one thing to clarify: The Gendarmerie is part of army, and is separate from the national police (Police Nationale).
@JerryEricsson
@JerryEricsson 4 жыл бұрын
I have run into that reddish color on the slide when trying to re-blue 1917 Engfields. From what I have read, it has to do with the hardening of the metal that causes the bluing salts to turn the blue to a reddish huge.
@desroin
@desroin 7 жыл бұрын
You know with better looking grips this would be an absolutely beautiful gun o_o It's also amazing how versatile and reliable the 1911 system is, when I think about a pistol the first two that come to my mind are the High Power and the 1911 o_o
@andreubadiafelip4540
@andreubadiafelip4540 7 жыл бұрын
If you could find one, could you do a video on Fontbernat m1938 SMG? They are interesting historically, and are definitely a Forgotten Weapon. Thanks for your work!
@Sunfade38
@Sunfade38 7 жыл бұрын
I was actually looking at one of these in my lgs yesterday. Was wondering what it was.
@tengu190
@tengu190 7 жыл бұрын
Will you cover the PA-15, much more interesting?
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