No such thing as “former” CIA agent.

The gentleman from the CIA is a real CIA operative. Ducking questions and still giving the impression that he is disclosing the whole truth while in fact saying nothing. Congrats.

Mk ultra didn't stopped at 64', it still continues in the music industry and others

Any time you hear the phrase.."retired navy seal" they are talking about a current CIA field agent.

My father was tested on during vietnam. He and his buddies were told they could sign up for “ weapons testing” to get some time out of the jungle and so he did it. They ended up locking them in a gym for a week didnt allow them to sleep and gave them glasses of water that were dosed with “ BZ (unidentified chemical) LSD and a third unnamed unidentified chemical.” After dosing they were given tasks to complete and radar screens to look at and tested interrogation techniques on them. My father years later sent a foi request to try to find out what the other two chemicals were because of cancer and other things he thinks came from that or the agent orange and the govt sent a letter back saying basically “ when u signed up for the weapons test you signed a document stating you would never request this information.” Its insane that this shit is real

Speaking articulately without saying anything is an art

I've met used car salesmen that were more straightforward and honest.

Once an agent, always an agent.

Mike "I never actually answer a question" Baker

This guy’s family at the dinner table don’t even believe him.

My father was a victim of the MkUltra program. He was a helicopter pilot in the US Army who was admitted to a VA hospital after falling off the wing of an airplane while refuelling it... supposedly... That was not his job and he would have had no business performing such. After 18 months in hospital he came out a completely different person. He had been transformed into the perfect soldier, gun-ho and completely willing to throw himself into whatever suicidal task was presented to him, even after leaving his official military position, but a totally dysfunctional and violent alcoholic on civy street. He spent the 60s and 70s in Vietnam, Cambodia, Burma, Malawi, Rhodesia, Mozambique, and virtually every other 3rd world hellscape imaginable, flying choppers as a much sought after mercenary known in relevant circles as "The Maintenance Man". I never knew him. He was never around. He met his end in 1985, when while working as a carpenter, he fell off the scaffolding after suffering a heart attack... alone... with nobody to call 911 or take him to the emergency room... supposedly... There are no witnesses to confirm or deny the official record.

Everyone always talks about the drug side of MKU but nobody talks about the other half of MKU that is still classified to this very day that dealt with Radio Frequencies.

Yeah this dude was clearly ex-cia. Dances around every question he's asked.

A world-class lesson on how to talk about a very sensitive subject, for over 20 minutes and not say anything secret. Once a spy always a spy. Class act.

He is slow slick with answers. Much respect, he gets a direct question but side steps it and answers another question without taking a breath, an Joe may or may not notice. Love this.

MKULTRA programming is more prevalent than ever. They just changed the name (Project Monarch). It was not disbanded and countless Americans and many celebrities have been subjected to it. It's imagery can be seen throughout movies, TV and music videos which are intended to trigger programming.

This guy would be a good politician, constantly meandering and never actually saying anything noteworthy

Mike “ I talk a lot but don’t actually say anything” Baker

This guy is expert in answering a question without answering

Feels like MK Ultra is in full swing right now 😬

I wrote a paper on the MK-ULTRA project. All of what he is saying is publicly available, and it's not that hard to find. So maybe he's trying to inform the lay man, but he has provided nothing more than publicly available information. He's really just dancing around/trying to remember what's publicly available and what's not.

Does anyone else find it difficult to take what a "former" CIA Agent says seriously? These guys are the best manipulators in the world, EVERYTHING is a con with them. I feel like I'm being mind-fucked every time I hear one speak!

CIA needs to be shut down.

This stuff does absolutely happen. I've seen similar things, not quite on this level, happen in my home town. Being in the dope game you see a lot of things that others dont

Midnight climax sounds like a cooler way to say wet dream

“Midnight Climax” sounds like the worst action movie never made by Michael Scott of The Office

Everytime CIA guy says “RIGHTTTT?” take a drink for catching him dodging the truth or illustrating deniability

I like how he just deflects and tries to justify these studies. 😂😂😂

"Former" No such thing. What you're witnessing is a cia employee engaging in PR work for the biggest criminal organization to have ever existed.

He is a master at saying nothing and talking two hours..

Imagine How Many Operations Were Successfully Purged From History

This dude is being very careful with his answers

He's not talking like a "Former" Agent he's talking in circles

"Could this be used against Americans" Lets use this against Americans and find out.

Mike really struggled through this and what he was allowed to say

I’ve met a few select individuals in my lifetime who are familiar with and practice the art of saying everything while saying nothing . . . .none however have reached this man’s level. Peak bs-ing. 👌🏼

"This was clearly off the rails." A perfect summary of the entire history of the CIA.

this guy says so much yet still so little lmao bunch of none answers what a waste of time

He doesn't give "background info". He just gives a synopsis of O'Neil's book

A CIA agent once told me that when people retire, and if they want to write a book about their experiences, it has to be wtitten as fiction.

‘Former CIA agent’ equals Disinfo/misinfo agent, nothing more, nothing less.

You can NEVER trust someone who has been employed by the CIA.

Working for CIA in the 60s musta been wild

Everytime he says “ I’m sure everyone knows this but for those that don’t” take a shot 😂 this guy really gave no information or even a single cool story while talking non stop about nothing at all

Remember guys; projects don't end - they become new projects based on what was learned in the first MK-Ultra as a program finished - the activity continues to this day

I want everything this guy says fact checked by Eddie Bravo.

The CIA didn't do JFK, it was just regular work place violence after Dulles got fired 🤣

Please note that MK Ultra is still in effrect, but in a digital version. Be aware!

Let Edward Snowden interview this guy with Joe regulating!

He's only allowed to talk about what it is already public knowledge. There's also confidential information that even most CIA agents aren't allowed to know. If he knew something that was classified, it would be really stupid for him to talk about it on the biggest podcast in the world. Big ups to Mike Baker for having to courage to come on the show, I'd be worried about letting something slip that would cause my house to have a mysterious gas leak.

I think we can expect the CIA guy isn't going to admit he is working for a criminal organization.

It makes me so happy to know this subject matter is becoming well known

Dude sounds like a salesman. I don't trust em

Former CIA Agent speaks fluent "Double Speak".....

My son, who started smoking weed, during college, told me that he used LSD, just twice. He said it was an amazing experience, but didn’t like the “after affects”! Well, those “after affects” tweaked something in his brain chemistry. He struggled with various mental health issues for the next 12 years, and finally took his own life, in the midst of all the evil of 2020. He was a brilliant young man, who had received a full college scholarship, based on his academics, community volunteering, etc. Drugs, destroyed him, and a big piece of my heart too! Don’t let anyone tell you that drug use is a “victimless crime”. There are millions of victims, in so many ways!

After 3 minutes I went to comments and realized this guy wasn’t going to say ANYTHING. Thanks for saving my time…

*So what are your thoughts on MK Ultra?* “Well when we go back to the stone age and we look at the first humans creating fire...”

The fact MKUltra can still be mentioned and not immediately condemned still blows my mind. Those people should have been arrested

Once a FED... ALWAYS A FED!!!

The book is amazing. Incredibly detailed. Not conspiracy theory wackiness, very grounded.

This is one Shady dude who I guarantee he has done a lot of devious shit.

feels like i got clickbaited hard.

Midnight climax sounds like something I wouldn't mind participating in

Highly recommend Tom O’Neil’s book Chaos, fantastic book.

This mans waitress never leaves cuz she doesn’t believe the order he gave her

the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist

He is like dancing around the topics without revealing anything too deep. CIA agents are indeed very slippery.

So, the allusion was: did Manson get trained while in prison by the CIA to try and turn people into "assets?"

The evil in this world breaks my heart and always will. Live honorably.

This guy's clearly still getting checks.

Its crazy how Mike Baker basically just does 2 things: -He just recites already known information and history lessons, -everything else he says is an adlib, and a runaround

Manchuria Candidate was a movie filmed in 1962 released and than pulled due to the KENNEDY ASSASSINATION and not released until 1987 . Frank Sinatra , Laurence Harvey , Angela Lansbury all were in this movie. I personally have a VHS version but having tried to get DVD copies with out success. Anyone who is interested in getting copies Good Luck

I love how quickly everyone caught on to the truth and straight up called this guy out lmao 🤣 it’s hilarious and also awesome to see everyone completely aware of the truth

Im sure body language experts would have a field day with this guy.

I love all the times the CIA agent says “Ah..Ah..Ah”. He’s nervous n trying to play it down n just saying that it was weird stuff…. N that’s it. Yup, he’s lying.

@ 4:30 or so the quick remark by Joe about Allen Dulles is Fu$king spot on! That guy was absolutely part of Kennedy’s execution.

This guy is a paid shill. Thats why he immediately brought up, shortcomings, and couldn't draw conclusions. He's just covering.

Mkultra didn't go away.

9:45 completely dodged the question clear as day

I like his tactic. Only give opinions on the framework Joe comes up with. Explain nothing in fear of divulging beyond what’s known publicly. Impressive, but obviously lying/omitting facts.

Mike accusing the CIA of using cheap hookers then chuckling about it is the most telling part of this interview

Joe Rogan knows not to dig in the wrong areas he’s smart and aware that he can’t say what we want to hear.

I can remember hiding under our desks even during the lated 70's when I was in kindergarten. I went to a different town halfway through kindergarten and they didn't bother doing that stuff

How do you think he feels about the quote from William Casey, CIA Director (1981-1987) saying; “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.” 😉👁

The way he's able to circumnavigate questions and his use of double speak is priceless.

Jolly West also Evaluated Jack Ruby.

Basically around 9:35 they're describing Bill Haders character from Pineapple Express in the into, kicking back smoking a cigarette watching someone smoke weed 😅

What this guy doesn't want you to know is that MK Ultra is still going on ;)

Fascinating that people can so easily dismiss evil because "we thought the bad guys were doing it too."

POVs not wanting to come back... Man that's deep.

He worked hard to not give away too much or say anything negative about the cia

Just when you think questioning a CIA guy about MK Ultra would be interesting. Then this guy comes along 🤦‍♂️

"This was happening in the early 50s, mid 50s, early 60s." And nothing happened again, ever.

"magicians art" sounds like a vague way of saying "mastering the art of deception"

I love it it’s like the CIA went through an ego trip then the existential crisis that comes with it

For starters there is no such thing as ‘former’ CIA. Secondly you shouldn’t let the gatekeepers sell you locks. Listening to a CIA man talk about CIA atrocities is like asking the guards at world war concentration camp to describe conditions there.

Once a CIA gent always a CIA agent. Hes giving us the same answer as he would on active duty.

I cant her the guest without thinking he's Johnny Caron''s brother. Its the voice.

Funny but they didn’t release the documents. Somebody sent a FOIA request in and they sent them back the receipts instead of the real documents, the person backtracked everything and figured it all out through those receipts.

An intelligent man, obviously intentionally holding back known information, great at playing the verbal shell game. Look into his eyes, he becomes uncomfortable when being dishonest.