Former Marlins Exec David Samson: Why Cubs Really Lost the Steve Bartman Game

Former Marlins Exec David Samson: Why Cubs Really Lost the Steve Bartman Game | The Rich Eisen Show

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Rich Eisen Show guest host David Samson, former President of the Marlins, explains why the Cubs really lost the infamous Steve Bartman playoff game.
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@donkeyears4704 Ай бұрын

man, david samson has an extremely abrasive conversational style. i give chris credit for remaining professional and never taking any of the barbs.

@danielwest9955 Ай бұрын

He's probably familiar with his style. He comes on the Dan Lebatard Show with a similar candace.

@stevedub8035 Ай бұрын

Right..... got to hit him wit the " ooooook man relax"

@kentstallard6512 Ай бұрын

Agreed. He's informative and articulate but comes across somewhat arrogant. I'm not familiar with him and didn't know until seeing this clip that he was with the Marlins front office and is related to scumbag Loria. Makes me sick that the garbage franchise with no fan base bought two WS titles.

@jamesjross Ай бұрын

thats whats funny...

@BeefPapa Ай бұрын

@@kentstallard6512 He's pretty arrogant, but he's a good conversation I gotta admit. His podcast Nothing Personal is one of my favorites.

@plushdolphin Ай бұрын

“It’s not enormous like the NFL ones have become…” cuts to enormous World Series ring. 😂

@chachdanko Ай бұрын

Facts wtf is buddy talking about😂 that’s an insane ring for 2003

@mikehawk514 28 күн бұрын

To be fair, Samson is a very small man, like 5’4” I’m sure it doesn’t look as big on Miguel Cabrera for example

@investorbettor505 Ай бұрын

I am one of 47 Marlins fans and that team was a core childhood memory for me!

@kentstallard6512 Ай бұрын

😂 I love realistic fans....NO ONE CARES even after two WS titles and a new stadium. I don't think Floridians care about baseball because it's a summer sport. The Grapefruit League is popular with tourists. Same with the Rays. Best "small market" team and no fan base. Any chance you know the backstory about the guy who appears frequently sitting behind home plate with the old orange Marlins gear?

@investorbettor505 Ай бұрын

@@kentstallard6512 the general Heat and Dolphins fan bases may not care too much about baseball but Florida is home to millions of Hispanics who love baseball. If the team builds a sustainable entertaining product the fans will come imo. The fan is called “Marlins Man.” You can google him to find his background better explained than I can

@bobwiegers Ай бұрын

I was a kid in South Florida when the Florida Marlins came to town. Thanks to Pudge, Cabrera, Conine, D-Train, and Charlie Hough and more for all the great memories.

@LordTomServo 20 күн бұрын

I'm also one of the 47 Marlins fans, and the 03 World Series to me, still feels like when baseball was at its best. Awesome memory.

@brianthomas2786 Ай бұрын

Die hard Cubs fan here. I never thought I’d like David, but I’ve come to love him. And this cemented it. Been saying for 21 years, Dusty cost us that series. Jack McKeon had his best pitchers ready to enter any game at any time. Clement, Zambrano, Wood sat in that bullpen in game 6. He played for game 7 when if we won that night, there is no game 7. Refreshing to hear this take!

@kentstallard6512 Ай бұрын

Not a Cubs fan, but that series and the subsequent WS victory by the Marlins sickened me. An iconic franchise with a loyal fan base loses to a swampland team with NO fan base, owned by scumbag Loria. I'm a Dbacks fan but I was happy to see the Cubs finally break through. Seeing a game at Wrigley is on my bucket list. Driven past it.

@taylorheavington5627 Ай бұрын

I blame Moises Alou's temper tantrum on a fly ball he never would've caught in the first place lol.

@ChitownsDRose Ай бұрын

My father, worked as a beat reporter/ news director for the old AM 1000 radio station in Chicago, as well as AM 780, WBBM. His radio name is Mike Scott, he covered Chicago sports(mostly Bulls & Cubs) in the mid-late ‘90’s. By the 2000’s, he had switched to covering local politics, but he was still relatively well known in Chicago. My family’s last name is Baartman, obviously my name has one more a than Steve’s last name. However, this didn’t stop angry Cubs fans from calling my mother on our HOME PHONE NUMBER, because everyone thought my dad was somehow related to Steve & was hiding somewhere! Chicago sports are the real deal.

@joekelly9941 Ай бұрын

Back in 2012 I talked to an usher at Wrigley who was family friends with Steve Bartman. He told me Bartman's company sent him to their branch in Texas to get him out of town for a while. Very sad.

@kentstallard6512 Ай бұрын

I'm sure you've seen the 30-for-30 on Bartman. Crazy. Yes, Cubs fans are passionate. Which is why it sickened me when that garbage franchise beat an iconic team with a loyal fan base and went on to win the WS. Loria is a scumbag and no one in Miami cares, even with the new stadium. I'm a Dbacks fan but I was happy for Cubs fans in 16.

@victorle7693 Ай бұрын

Thank god Bartman didn’t let stupid people get to him…he’s still alive and living the good life….

@williamowen6399 Ай бұрын

This guy loves himself so much I'm almost jealous

@oboecoe Ай бұрын

Thank you for bringing up the fact that the White Sox had an 80+ year World Series drought winner the year after the Red Sox did it. No one talks about it and it's so frustrating as a Sox fan

@bossfan49 Ай бұрын

Wait a minute... you mean Chicago has TWO teams??

@rotoninja Ай бұрын

Baker also did not come out of the dugout to call a timeout to calm down Prior and co. Instead, he chewed on a toothpick.

@natevart4156 Ай бұрын

The cubs did not lose because of bartman, they lost because of a missed ground ball for an error that could have been turned into a double play easily. Bartman is just a scapegoat for cubs fans and I am a cubs fan but those fans back then were moronic. The cubs made so many mistakes in that game. After the bartman situation the game was literally in the exact same spot it was before the incident.

@fnnfnnfn Ай бұрын

David Samson comes off as a huge jerk

@DannyKaffee Ай бұрын

I'm 100% certain he doesn't care. It's his brand.

@felix207 Ай бұрын

He does and doesn't. Nothing personal! That's the name of his podcast. I instantly thought and knew he was a jerk when I first heard him on the le batard show

@Ludzig Ай бұрын

Yeah he's a rich white guy

@wa2k99 Ай бұрын

@@Ludzigwhy does his race matter....

@potawatomimko6108 Ай бұрын

@@Ludzigracist

@SolidMikeP Ай бұрын

LeBatard group is going to roast him…wearing that damn ring

@DMtssg Ай бұрын

Dusty Baker is one of the most important and revered figures in the history of baseball. This guy is an oil slick.

@daevidjay Ай бұрын

Stugotz is the next guest host

@whoo17 Ай бұрын

They should let him smoke heaters on set. Pop a few gummies. Now that's must see TV

@bigbodybenzy Ай бұрын

@@whoo17hahaha I support this

@valleydude5000 Ай бұрын

This dude is still happy about helping the Expos move!

@daevidjay Ай бұрын

Meadowlark Media

@gabrielvazquez81 Ай бұрын

Gaha that ring is enormous! Maybe not NFL enormous, but huge

@willenholly Ай бұрын

I dressed as Bartman for Halloween that year. Ran into a guy in Ft Lauderdale bar also wearing it. We hugged. Years later, one of my consulting buddies texted me, “Guess who just showed up at my meeting?”

@richardcranium5801 Ай бұрын

Guy had his entire life destroyed over a foul ball. But cool story bro

@bennytakeson Ай бұрын

Dusty pulling the starter in 02 helped the Angels beat SF too.

@victorle7693 Ай бұрын

Dusty stinks but I was happy for him when he got a ring for Houston

@kentstallard6512 Ай бұрын

@@victorle7693I think he's a great lockerroom presence and mentor. In-game management, not so good.

@rickshelton1955 Ай бұрын

Moises Alou's temper tantrum didn't help

@rwmorey71 Ай бұрын

Tony Russo created the era of over using the bullpen which in some way led to the over reliance on analytics. I will also go with the "old school" manager who trusts his instincts and his pitcher. I think it was Jim Palmer who said that it used to be the bullpen was full of guys who weren't good enough to be starters and I hate the "specialist" and the guy groomed to pitch one inning.

@kannon0216 Ай бұрын

David Samson needs to be on more often.

@taylorheavington5627 Ай бұрын

As a lifelong Cubs fan, I've always blamed Moises Alou throwing a temper tantrum in the outfield on a ball that he most likely would not have caught in the first place. That really sucked the air out of the whole team, in combination with the pitcher's struggle. And the rest is history.

@natevart4156 Ай бұрын

I agree it was very unprofessional. But what lost them the game was the missed ground ball that easily could have been turned for two directly after the Bartman incident.

@taylorheavington5627 Ай бұрын

@@natevart4156 Objectively you are right, but perhaps Moises Alou's temper tantrum put everyone on edge, which led to the missed ground ball. That's my theory, but yes if the ground ball is converted, game over.

@softjones3128 Ай бұрын

Dusty Baker is Doc Rivers

@ryanpeters801 Ай бұрын

What a jerk.

@wa2k99 Ай бұрын

I laughed so hard watching that game

@Techfanatic73 Ай бұрын

I don't get the hate thrown at Samson. I like the dude.

@robertott9925 Ай бұрын

Mark Prior, Kerry Wood

@bengrimm1222 Ай бұрын

This guy is awesome, best guest host I've seen yet.

@compounddavid Ай бұрын

I was there for Game 6 and 7 Celebrated at Marlins Hotel. Watching ESPN cover the Win on bar TV. I Still Don't Like David

@SheevX66XPalpatine Ай бұрын

Go cubs. dusty was the reason as much as it hurts to agree with the marlins president at the time.

@calebflynn9636 Ай бұрын

So whos to say Caitlyn doesnt get drafted by the trail bazers..no rule against it

@wa2k99 Ай бұрын

Bruce

@mizer9510 Ай бұрын

This has already been debunked. Mark Prior himself said he was not overworked and not exhausted. If Alex Hernandez and Bartman hadn't happened the Cubs would have been in the World Series. The Cubs were the better team that year.

@grsafran Ай бұрын

A world series title 20 years ago is all the marlins have. They have no fan's and no history. The owner(s) don't seem to care if they win or lose. This guy sure left a legacy behind just not the one he thinks. Marlins suck

@kenthunter6850 Ай бұрын

He's completely wrong. How do you blame the pitcher for an error? Never was a Dusty fan, but this is a biased analysis.

@Xxxomar880 Ай бұрын

Bring back steve bartman 😂😂😂

@laughgather Ай бұрын

David Samson fan

@613lcd Ай бұрын

Never cared for Samson back then and now....just really smug...🤨

@pompelmostique Ай бұрын

I don't like, hate, or even follow the Marlins, I kinda sort of like Miami sometimes... but I can't control how much I loathe David Samson. As a baseball statistician, he's alright... Everything else out of his mouth just proves what an elitist turd he is.

@KinkESizemore Ай бұрын

Dusty Baker screwing his team in big moments, what else is new?

@salvatoresultana4058 Ай бұрын

Might’ve been an over correction from the year before when he was in San Francisco.

@camicawber Ай бұрын

@@salvatoresultana4058 Thing is, the '02 World Series fell apart because the bullpen was fried. I love Dusty and I'm very happy that he got his ring with the Astros in '22 - but he did have a tendency to burn up his pitchers.

@mrcnub Ай бұрын

@camicawber The Giants bullpen being fried wasn't really Dusty's fault, his starters were getting rocked in pretty much every game of that series.

@PatDK Ай бұрын

Samson talks to people like he’s never been punched in the face before…

@jedward5155 Ай бұрын

That play absolutely cost the Cubs that game. Alou had his eyes and glove locked on that ball. He would have caught it. He at least would have been able to make a play on it, but we'll never know. Bartman is a sympathetic figure, but he should have had more awareness about what was going on. Everyone reaching their hands for that ball should have been paying attention.

@theshawshankinception1220 Ай бұрын

That was for the second out of the 8th. Total L take.

@the_humanfund2388 Ай бұрын

We get it David, you want people to know you're a big shot, calm down. Chris isn't trying to make you feel small, its called :: waves hands across the sky :: *conversation*!

@shellnjoeycastro1730 Ай бұрын

This just brought back all my trauma. Need to see my therapist 😂

@PaulSmith-yu1bx Ай бұрын

Was there. That did cost us the game. Won’t listen to this; 20+ years later it still hurts that much….

@Quijoteb Ай бұрын

DAVIIIDDDD

@bubsmeister Ай бұрын

Don't care for his act

@zechariahcameron3645 Ай бұрын

DAVID SAMSON (clap clap clap clap clap)

@daevidjay Ай бұрын

😂

@BoricuaGuerrero401 28 күн бұрын

Who's the clown laughing about nothing

@kentstallard6512 Ай бұрын

The Marlins franchise sickens me. Miami should've never been awarded a franchise. Swamp dwellers don't care about baseball. It's a summer sport and summer in Florida is hell. That MLB allowed them to start in a football stadium with no roof was crazy. Two WS titles, a new roofed stadium...and NO ONE CARES. Same with the Rays, the best small market franchise. No fan base. Loria is a scumbag. Garbage franchise. (I'm not a Cubs fans either...I'm a Dbacks fan) Hopefully the league will relocate both the Rays and Marlins in the near future. In a few decades it will necessary anyway as the swamp is submerged.

@Famijoly Ай бұрын

MLB expanding not once but twice into the state of Florida has never made sense to me. Florida already gets its slice MLB with the spring training sites. At least the front office with Tampa Bay tries to make it work by putting winning teams on the field but even that is not enough to generate crowds. The Marlins have never raised their self-perception beyond an expansion franchise. They caught lightning in a bottle during the postseason in 1997 and 2003, qualifying as a wild card team each time. Really quirky fact about the Marlins: they have NEVER finished in first place in their division, yet they have two World Series championships.

@kentstallard6512 Ай бұрын

@@Famijoly Didn't know that last fact. Spot-on.