After decades of studying major aircraft disasters, I've discovered a recurring theme; someone in the chain of command had warning that their actions, or lack thereof, would end in catastrophic circumstances but they turned a deaf ear to the warnings until a disaster occurred. Seeing the fuel leaking on the hangar floor, reminded me of what happened to a Chalk's Airways Seaplane. It exploded over the ocean after leaving Ft. Lauderdale. The investigators discovered that maintenance at the airline was substandard, they did patchwork repairs and shockingly, the plane that exploded, had, had documented complaints about a fuel leak but nothing was done. It also didn't help, that they flew 60 year old seaplanes. I'm 58 and I've been alive long enough to know, that most disasters were preventable, if the people in charge cared more about safety instead of profits. Greed kills and I would have quit. Resigning over safety concerns, is a good reason to terminate an employment contract. If my boss showed a blatant disregard for my safety, I'd say that's a game-changer.
@ViolentTreatment11 ай бұрын
There's a job out there waiting for the right person!
@ayumu-senpaii11 ай бұрын
Now look is is lying lmfao. IT DID NOT EXPLODE, the right wing failed due to a crack that maintenance was not looking further into(just kept stop drilling and putting sealant). The fuel ignited but the aircraft did not explode.
@Crybabyhere11 ай бұрын
I didn’t know they handled passengers. I knew of the airline as a cargo plane company.
@user-zx2xx9oc4h11 ай бұрын
I worked with Larsen some and he was an absolute worm. Anyone he associated with was similar. Silver Airways was quick to hire him after he changed his name. Avoid Silver at all costs.
@ChrisHarding-lk3jj11 ай бұрын
At the end of the day it is up to the pilot to determine if the plane should fly or not. As a pilot no one will ever force me to fly a plane that I personally do not believe is safe or airworthy. As a pilot the final decision is always in my hands as to whether that aircraft will fly or not. As a pilot I will never be pressured into doing something I personally do not believe in.
@PistolPackingPilot11 ай бұрын
I worked for Key Lime Air way back in the day. It’s just a matter of time until they have ANOTHER fatal accident. I can unequivocally say working there was nothing short of the worst job of my life. One of the only jobs I ever quit without having another job. I say this now as a 15,000 hour A320 captain for a major U.S. carrier. It saddens me that after all these years they still haven’t learned. But I’m not surprised.
@Keys87911 ай бұрын
Interesting. I knew two pilots who currently work for Key Lime and both of them love it. The company pays them well, respects their decisions, and; according tot hem does right on maintenance.
@johndonald356611 ай бұрын
@@Keys879which fleet?
@Keys87911 ай бұрын
@@johndonald3566 One guy who flies as a Metro captain and the other who flies the 145s, Metros, and I believe he's also on with the Dornier.
@PistolPackingPilot11 ай бұрын
@@Keys879 glad to hear
@CFITOMAHAWK10 ай бұрын
ONLY VERY GOOD PILOTS LIKE CHALLENGING ROUTES AND AIRPLANES. AVERAGE OR MEDIOCRES GET NERVOUS THERE..
@quillmaurer656311 ай бұрын
Key Lime has had this reputation all along. My mom used to work for the FAA Denver FSDO, this company has always been troublesome and questionable in her mind. A lot of really stupid stuff, as well as maintenance and pressuring pilots to fly things they shouldn't, there's just a lot of pressure on them to cut corners, numerous incidents of pilots being irresponsible. One incident I recall the pilot was doing the engine run-up while taxiing and lost control - that's supposed to be done with the plane stopped, brakes set firm. Another incident the pilot accidentally taxiied onto a closed taxiway that was dug up, the plane getting stuck in the dirt. But then he tried to get the plane out under its own power, presumably in an effort to cover up his mistake, causing far more damage to the plane than if he'd just shut down and had it towed out.
@Airplanefish11 ай бұрын
That area on the ramp at Hotel was clearly marked with lights and cones. The dip was at least 14 inches deep. Concrete was removed in that area. It was a huge hole 50 yards long by 25 yards wide. I watched them pull the plane out. It was obvious the pilot kept going once he fell in. I've been on that field for 23 years. Seen alot of stuff
@cremebrulee475911 ай бұрын
A pilot that does an engine run-up while he's taxing doesn't know what they are doing.
@quillmaurer656311 ай бұрын
@@cremebrulee4759 Exactly. Yet one was flying for Key Lime.
@rickrick7011 ай бұрын
This is why flying today is extremely dangerous. Ever since this fake pandemic, people have stopped caring about quality control. You're a literally playing russian roulette when you fly 😢
@yesode420111 ай бұрын
@@cremebrulee4759With your very limited ability it is something you can’t do but some pilots can. Maybe you should try to chew gum walk and read the sign. Please let me know when you’re going up and I will stay home.
@WhoFlungPoo202411 ай бұрын
"Impeccable safety record?" So far. But, the company's response of "No comment" says everything one needs to know. I wouldn't board a Denver Air if my life counted on it and I worked for a major US carrier for 35 years.
@cremebrulee475911 ай бұрын
To me, 39 enforcement actions is not an impeccable safety record. I don't know that all of those enforcement actions were safety-related, but it is likely that a lot of them are. As far as lack of crashes, I would say they just got lucky.
@enginerdy11 ай бұрын
@@cremebrulee4759that’s the thing.. modern transport aircraft are so safe, you can cut corners quite a lot before killing people quickly. But it will eventually happen.
@revelation613612 күн бұрын
I fly them at least twice a month and I’ve never been on a flight that even was a close call
@Mis-fe9fc11 ай бұрын
Now I know that news outlets regularly drum up news stories to make airlines/airplanes/airports seem more dangerous then they actually are, but this is one of the first times that I wholeheartedly agree. These stories in this video about instruments going out in low vis and at night where you can lose ground references is really scary. Essentially flying with a blindfold on.
@arcanondrum654311 ай бұрын
Wow, your Channel (presently) ACTUALLY has the following below your username : "Get out of my room, I'm playing Minecraft", which IS a good explanation for your ignorance.
@Mis-fe9fc11 ай бұрын
@@arcanondrum6543 you need to get better anger bait material then just going to peoples profiles and making fun of their description and saying that they are "ignorant". Also, how am I "ignorant" when 88 (presently) other people agree with me?
@piemadd11 ай бұрын
@@arcanondrum6543 What does their profile have to do with anything
@arcanondrum654311 ай бұрын
Wow, TWO clueless replies I won't make any more time for...
@threestrikesmarxman909511 ай бұрын
@@arcanondrum6543dumbass
@zucottimanicotti711211 ай бұрын
Key Lime Air is a freight courier first and foremost. Denver Air Connection (DAC) is the passenger division under Key Lime Air. Most of the aircraft are old as hell. I’ve been inside a handful of the cargo metroliners and I’ve actually flown on both DAC passenger metroliners. They show their age. DAC is the only airline in the USA that still flies Metroliners on regular scheduled passenger routes; the metros themselves are some of the oldest scheduled passenger aircraft still in full scheduled operation outside of Alaska, with metroliners peaking in popularity during the era when Douglas DC-9s and Boeing 727s dominated the skies with some of Key Lime’s cargo metros rolling off the assembly line in the early 1970s. Key Lime Air needs to drastically up its treatment of its employees and it needs to start replacing it’s old cargo metros with newer second hand aircraft like the Beech 1900D (Like how Alpine Air began slowly replacing their older 1900C aircraft with newer 1900D models purchased from the now defunct Denver-based “Great Lakes Air” in 2019). DAC should remove its passenger metros entirely and replace them with either Cessna Caravans, Beech 1900s, Pilatus PC12s or Technam P212s. The issues mentioned in this video seem to boil down to general aircraft neglect and contempt / carelessness from corporate towards their employees as well as countless ignored safety concerns involving the decaying metroliners: both passenger and cargo. Granted, I still love seeing the metros; their distinct sound, their ugly yet appealing design, they’re a relic from a bygone era of aviation long before my time, but it’s time to turn the page. They’re now less of a novel workhorse and more of an aviation nightmare waiting to happen. Also, I must address the elephant in the room: the airline should be held responsible for ignoring their employees’ concerns and knowingly endangering their workforce and passengers: all in favor of keeping cheap old aircraft on the brink of falling apart in order to save money and maximize profits; I feel this is statement pretty obvious but I feel that I needed to reiterate.
@chechnya11 ай бұрын
Age isn't really the biggest factor, more like how many cycles and maintenance. Sounds like the latter is sketchy.
@ryanhowell925711 ай бұрын
I’ve flown at Big Sky Airlines and some of the metros went to key lime. I also flew at Alpine in 99s and 1900s C models. The metros leak or seep fuel and the 1900 is by far a safer plane but still love the SA227
@Dexter037S410 ай бұрын
@@chechnya Bearskin Airlines operates Metros in Northern Canada, a far harsher environment when it comes, yet hasn't had a single maintenance failure and Transport Canada hasn't ever had to go out to investigate them. They run a tight ship.
@efoxxok747811 ай бұрын
The fact you have to have a contract to force a pilot to work for you says a lot.
@nickwinn11 ай бұрын
Key Lime Air probably paid for some or all of the pilots training in exchange for them signing on to serve for a period of time.
@stowjoker34211 ай бұрын
This is quite normal for these types of operation. How it works is that the airline pays for your type rating, ATP, and various other training that you would otherwise have to pay yourself but as an exange you sign a contract that you will work for them for a certain period of time. Then if you leave before then you usually have to pay them back what they used in training you.
@zberg010111 ай бұрын
Not smart comment
@bizjetfixr835211 ай бұрын
Notice that they didn't complain until they were sued for breaking the contract. Airlines and operators don't look kindly upon pilots suing them, or a previous employer.
@bizjetfixr835211 ай бұрын
The pictures they showed may be faked. What's "broken" on the strut? Not exactly rare to see struts leaking a little. Fuel on the ground? If it's the same Metro in the earlier pics, that aircraft is in maintenance. Note the fuselage skin repair being done near the engine. "No Satellites in view" on the GPS is easy to fake. Just power it up in the hangar, or in close proximity to the hangar. GPS signals don't carry thru steel roofs.
@ukrainiipyat11 ай бұрын
It is all good until the aircraft makes unscheduled descent into ground terrain and only then will chit hit the fan.
@flightTime12311 ай бұрын
Ahh classic regional/small airline tactics. Run a shady operation and blame the pilots for it.
@richardkallio386811 ай бұрын
If there is a crash involving this carrier - which, incidentally, I pray doesn’t happen - then I hope the whole management team goes to prison!
@jgnderitu11 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, it seems management always gets away with it or get a small slap on the wrist. The crew and pax pay with their lives
@Bellasie111 ай бұрын
That company’s management has quite some nerve for suing them over quitting due to safety concerns. Unbelievable!
@kapa492910 ай бұрын
Corporate psychos
@alexandersheppard199711 ай бұрын
I used to fly Key Lime all the time to and from Denver, and I'll never fly them again! I'm also going to tell everyone I know to never fly them!
@ostrich6711 ай бұрын
Where is the FAA?
@ssnerd58311 ай бұрын
DING-DING-DING!!!! THIS IS THE QUESTION THAT MUST BE ANSWERED!!!!
@lesleymorgan0111 ай бұрын
The fact that the airline would sue the pilots because they quit over safety concerns is unreal. The pilots are whistleblowers, and I hope they'll be treated as such by the legal system.
@Kaipeternicolas11 ай бұрын
No the airline is suing the pilots because they left the airline before their 2 year commitment was over.
@beechnut945511 ай бұрын
Yeah, there have always been shady operators and Keylime is known in the industry as ine of then. However, that isn't what the company's lawsuit is about. The pilots signed a training contract amd have left before fulfilling their time commitment. I think the court will decide if they owe the money depending on unsafe work condition.
@Danniedorito11 ай бұрын
2 yr commitment or walking away with my life 🤔🤔 definitely quitting.
@hardwhitewolf492511 ай бұрын
They would sue for breach of contract, and a good portion of the items that were mentioned are a deferral item. Meaning it can be broke and not ground the aircraft. But has to be fixed within a certain number of days. That being said the sheer number of items on such a recurring basis is a big concern. The average for an operator is about 10%, so if you operate 400 aircraft expect their to be about 40 active deferrals. There will be spikes during seasonal changes, but that's about the average. With that in mind, I and a few of my coworkers had worked at KLA as maintenance personnel. Over 15 years ago now, and I'm so glad we got out of that place. Its full of drama and should be a TV show.
@cliffordodell502410 ай бұрын
I flew one of these last summer, as we were boarding I heard a member of the ground crew say "you couldn't pay me to get on that plane." During the flight we shot a gap between to storm cells that would've taken down planes much larger than us. If you're going from southern Nebraska to Denver just take the Amtrak.
@thebodaciousgaucho11 ай бұрын
Key Lime maintenance motto: "Beat to fit, paint to match" - but really, this stuff goes on all over the place in aviation.
@davidturner498711 ай бұрын
What in the actual hell? What does management think is going to happen to the company when they kill a plane load of passengers because of blatant negligence?
@maxplaysmusic918211 ай бұрын
I think unfortunately there’s enough precedent for these companies *not* going under after a fatal incident. So they’re happy enough to keep lining their pockets and so be it if 50-60 people die on occasion.
@Cpt-Pugwash1411 ай бұрын
Welcome to flying with a small aircraft airline, all they care about is keeping that plane flying no matter what, I have worked for these companies and always got a serious talking to from management each time I had to snag the plane. never stopped me though as it was the right thing to do.. it's funny how during onboarding/indoc training they say safety is NO#1 and safety this and that, then when on the line when you try to implement the things you learn about snagging and weather/ice ect its always "just go and try" or "how are we going to get the pax home if you snag it?" or the complete disregard for duty hours.... the government knows all this and does nothing too
@Mcfunface11 ай бұрын
They don't call them "lots o' luck" airlines for nothing!
@Shadow__13311 ай бұрын
Exactly, these issues are not exclusive to this carrier and the FAA seems to focus on making pilots lives harder instead of investigating management and the overall system.
@meowmeow275911 ай бұрын
A comment here says that their mom worked for the FSDO that knew about this airlines incompetence yet they are still flying... FAA is not for safety they're there to protect the airlines
@Dexter037S410 ай бұрын
Meanwhile, in Canada, this shit doesn't happen. Bearskin Airlines, who incidentally also operate old as shit Metros, haven't had a single issue. They've been operating since 1996.
@Shadow__13310 ай бұрын
@@Dexter037S4 How many flights per day? How is the attrition rate? Training quality better? Better pay?
@thatairplaneguy11 ай бұрын
As a former pilot I can say that this airline is not acting outside the norm for most airlines and THAT is very troubling how broken our system has become. Solely through greed of the company and it because of the government or the pilots who fly those suspect aircraft every day. Maintaining aircraft is very expensive but not as expensive as maintaining the salary and lifestyle of those who own and operate these airlines.
@cessna26111 ай бұрын
As a current pilot I can say that’s not my experience at all my previous and current airlines maintenance is top notch anything we notice is immediately addressed and fixed
@gordon357611 ай бұрын
Hoping these pilots can get past this crap. Standing up especially in aviation usually has a retaliatory effect. Safety is #1 always and when employers overlook that, then the employees need to take a stand. Its a shame that most employees are afraid of losing their job vs dying because of safety issue. I guarantee that 90% of the employees feel the same way but are too chicken shit to do anything about it. My hats off to the select few here that the balls to stand up for whats right and had enough of the BS.
@fergman30011 ай бұрын
That Metroliner is still kick ass...
@anthonybanchero307211 ай бұрын
Still not require a flight attendant?
@philconey1111 ай бұрын
Good old texas lawn dart
@charliehilbrant11 ай бұрын
It really is lol
@anthonybanchero307211 ай бұрын
@@charliehilbrant The ones Horizon Air flew were reliable. Even one called in after it was retired to fill in for a Dash 8.
@Dexter037S410 ай бұрын
Come to Ontario, Bearskin Airlines are going to be operating theirs until the 2030s at least!
@Christopher-hx6xm11 ай бұрын
Why isnt the FAA investigating ,i worked for Great Lakes Airlines that had the FAA was in their business
@427SuperSnake111 ай бұрын
They have already had a few incidents, including a midair collision. But that was not their fault according to the reports.
@LieutenantLysol11 ай бұрын
If you mean the midair with that Cirrus, that wasn't their fault. Just a typical Cirrus pilot, too fast on base to final overshooting into the parallel.
@427SuperSnake111 ай бұрын
@@LieutenantLysol Well that is why I said it wasn’t their fault….
@Keys87911 ай бұрын
@@LieutenantLysol Actually, it was a student pilot and instructor who were not paying attention. It was not a 'typical cirrus pilot' which is unfair to the aircraft and those who fly them. Cirrus has an excellent flight safety program pilots are offered upon purchase or transition trained into. I went through it and it was far better than most regional airlines even.. for a GA aircraft.
@EricCoop11 ай бұрын
I suppose if the plane can't be pressurized and the pilots fly on emergency oxygen, the passengers will sleep through the flight and not engage in drunken misbehavior.
@57hound11 ай бұрын
Key Lime operates both passenger and cargo flights. I’m sure when the pilot was pressure to fly with an oxygen mask that was for the cargo side of the operation
@Shadow__13311 ай бұрын
@@57houndNot really, unpressurized departures are allowed in several circumstances with passengers onboard. Usually they are altitude restricted and people won't "pass out". A shame that this is allowed.
@Vele12679 ай бұрын
As a fellow pilot, I can tell you it may not seem like it to most, but it is a very small industry. I promise you the only reason they are a pilot at key lime air is because they have numerous check ride (pilot failures) thats it. They cant get hired by anyone else which is hard to do. BTW key lime air/denver air connection, same thing. One is cargo, one is passenger. Do everyone a favor please and rent a car, or take the drive. Dont rely on the faa to make changes because they wont until something happens. thats history and thats who they are. They arent the faa, they are local faa thats the way any government works so it takes YOU the people to make a difference or nothing will change.
@hugostiglitz4711 ай бұрын
Why would anyone fly that airline? Its like a mom and pop airline that stop caring
@Rod.Machado10 ай бұрын
jeez, they cant even fix a garmin430 jeez. and this issue with key lime has been well known with the pilot community, glad that this is getting hear now by the gen pop.
@noblegoldheart850811 ай бұрын
I'm a student pilot who has been in love with aviation my whole life, and I'm close to getting my PPL, and I'm also an A&P in training who will be testing for my airframe license soon as well. And the first things that I was taught in A&P school are the FAA regulations that bind aircraft maintenance, and why aircraft maintenance is so important. That image they showed of the strut is very alarming to me. Because there is usually a good amount of chrome showing on the strut. But from what I can tell, it looked like the o rings failed on the strut, and all the hydraulic fluid and nitrogen inside it leaked out. And that amount of fuel on the ground is even more alarming to me. Because jet fuel, in that stage, is still flammable. Through my time learning about aviation, I watched air crash investigation quite a lot to give me an idea of what to look for in maintenance, learn how to improve as a pilot, and what to look for in an airline, and the biggest episode that stood out to me is the episode about Alaska Airlines flight 261. Where an MD-80 went down due to a jack screw that failed because of faulty maintenance. That beginnings of that crash are very similar to this. Key Lime Air clearly does not have any care for the maintenance of their aircraft. They're only worried about money, Alaska airlines was the same back in the late 90s when the economy dropped. And they extended maintenance service intervals to increase profits, but put thousands of lives in danger. And it caught up to them. I'm terrified that the same thing will happen to Key Lime Air if they keep this up, because these are the kind of airlines that need to be shut down. The ones that done care about safety, and only worry about making money.
@cremebrulee475911 ай бұрын
Good luck in your career. You are going to be a conscientious pilot, and that is critical for passenger safety.
@noblegoldheart850811 ай бұрын
@@cremebrulee4759 I deeply appreciate your comment my friend. I always strive to do my best every flight. Im also known to be a stringent rule follower, and I think that'll help me along the way too. I love aviation wholeheartedly, and I want to do my part in keeping it as safe but also fun as possible for new pilots.
@maxsaviation951211 ай бұрын
Someone ratted out Alaska for maintenance then that person was never able to work for any airlines again
@noblegoldheart850811 ай бұрын
@@maxsaviation9512 yep. That was John Liotine who was a maintenance inspector for Alaska Airlines which is a very high position in the maintenance hangar, and his squawks and discrepancies were overruled by high ups from Alaska Airlines because they didn't want to spent money on the maintenance. People who blow the whistle often times never work in their industry of choice ever again, because the companies they're working for will see them as a liability and a disruptive influence. As I said in my comment, airlines like that should shutdown for placing their fair paying passengers in danger because of their choice to overwork these airplanes, and not maintain them to the manufacturers specifications, and the FAA's regulations. I'm scared to say it, but eventually Key Lime Air WILL pay the price.
@57Jimmy11 ай бұрын
And Alaska Air 261? Company and execs get off scott free. The only other casualty besides the pilots, flight crew and passengers was the engineer who EXPOSED the problems to begin with! I’m still psst off because of that. Execs reap all the rewards while everyone else are nothing but pee-ons.
@mannygarcia181011 ай бұрын
This is mostly an FAA issue. All they have to do is send an inspector and shut them down.
@austinkub233711 ай бұрын
Helios Flight 522 is the reason why we don't mess with cabin pressurization safety, and this among a laundry list of other problems apparently
@joshsimpson530311 ай бұрын
Genuinely infuriating. In this country we’ve worked incredibly hard to raise the bar for safety to a level where the average airline passenger is considered more superstitious than reasonable for safety concerns. Now some small time management team thinks their top positions at their mediocre company are worth ruining that by risking people’s lives?
@Keys87911 ай бұрын
Try not to get too upset over something you know little about and are taking the word at face value from a source that is known to twist and abuse the information they feed you. It's really not that bad.
@shocktide64288 ай бұрын
As somebody who works in the aviation industry and knows how important safety is for ant part .121 operator, it is that bad! This is not some weird conspiracy designed to "feed the machine" this is a cutting example of holes in the Swiss cheese starting to show. When an MEL clearly states ab aircraft shouldn't be flying and it still does, that is a BIG deal and could be in violation of so many Fars it's ridiculous. . . . So yes, it's a big deal and don't undermine it. Aviation isn't a place for conspiracy.
@Keys8798 ай бұрын
@@shocktide6428 I know a couple people at Key Lime and I spoke to them directly about this (I too, am in the industry just not for a 121 operator, but 135/91). One guy in specific who is one of the more senior pilots said the guys who left were likely trying to get our of their contract scott-free and had been making issue over the aircraft they were scheduled to fly for a while. He said none of the aircraft they refused to fly were dangerous or illegal as per the regs. Everything was MEL'd and thoroughly checked out. He did say that, like many other operators, they are having trouble sometimes getting things fixed in a timely manner so aircraft are flying occasionally 'indefinitely' with MEL'd equipment. This is an issue with finding qualified and competent A&Ps in the industry. But nothing that would jeopardize the flight ever took place. He said they were outright lying and it was sad. I would trust this guy, he was my old CFI and a close friend. I don't think he would lie to cover for Key Lime. He's not the kind of pilot who would stick around a dangerous outfit. But he says he really likes the company and the aircraft.
@geoffreybradford11 ай бұрын
I found out the hard way years ago myself , that the FAA exists to advance and maintain commercial aviation in the US, not to investigate safety concerns. They will look at the safety record of this airline and if no crashes , will say “ no problem here, we’re done “ and these airlines know this. Hope those pilots land jobs soon.
@flightTime12311 ай бұрын
I would never put my family on one of their planes.
@patrickrabion947311 ай бұрын
I have lots of hours in the Metroliner, but 30 yrs. ago…🤔
@geddon43611 ай бұрын
Wait, Management is putting profits above safety? Of course, of course, Shareholders have to get their money first.
@Hi-lb8cq11 ай бұрын
When the company starts avoiding the issues like this you know u have a problem
@lrparrish2275 ай бұрын
Sounds like Kay Lime is not living up to their end of the bargan of keeping the equipment operational to do the job as advertised. Broken equipment is not acceptable. I am retired pilot who flew the metro liner for a living at a different company who kept the aircraft superbly operational. It is a demanding aircraft and needs to be tip top.
@lrmbvv11 ай бұрын
the Merlin, Metro's are very fuel efficient, hopefully they can get the pressurization and avionics issues fixed, and the leaking tanks, and the struts, and get those bugs of the windshield, and that SAS system guage sticks
@Keys87911 ай бұрын
Lmao. Ah the ol' San Antonio sewer pipe... forever leaking fuel....
@jaytc321811 ай бұрын
Anybody remember ValuJet?
@professorrob63712 ай бұрын
Looks like I dodged a bullet by not working for this company when I was a low time pilot. The truth is that all operators are like this to some extent. Every aviation company I've ever worked for had issues that were swept under the rug, retaliation was given for doing maintenance write ups on the aircraft or even mentioning issues, or refusing to accept the aircraft in this condition that it was found in. You can report these issues to the FAA (FSDO), but nothing is ever done about it. From my experience, the FAA is just as much to blame as the aviation company(s) by not enforcing the complaints their receiving from pilots that come forward and by not conducting proper audits. I've never met a pilot that made it in the industry that didn't have to "try to survive" through their career working for people like Key Lime Air.
@kjjones862711 ай бұрын
Keep whistle blowing to the FAA
@rizzodefrank11 ай бұрын
Utilizing metros as passenger birds in this day and age is just plain idiotic and irresponsible.
@Keys87911 ай бұрын
They're actually very safe aircraft. A complete bear to work on as a mechanic, but very pilot friendly, fuel efficient, and hardy aircraft.
@jgnderitu11 ай бұрын
@@Keys879 Agreed, it should be possible to run them safely if management is conscientious.
@YouWillNeverKnow11 ай бұрын
Amazing that there's even bots on KZfaq LOL
@Dexter037S410 ай бұрын
@@jgnderitu See: Bearskin Airlines.
@tombowers202011 ай бұрын
Pilots should walk away if they are not safe. Period. You and you alone are the FIRST line of defense.
@sargentmcbadass11 ай бұрын
I hope Key Lime Air is finally going to get what they deserve
@wez12312312311 ай бұрын
The FAA is no joke, they will likely have a field day with this firm soon
@YouWillNeverKnow11 ай бұрын
Amazing that you're unaware that half this stuff was just routine crap that's being severely overblown by these clowns. The whole investigation thing is them just making sure they're on top of their crap and the enforcement actions are likely just minor grievances but of course they had to report them. Don't believe everything you see.
@Jjjjjjc10 ай бұрын
As an airframe & powerplant mechanic all I can say is wow. Smh.
@user-re4hc7yf2m11 ай бұрын
So much more common than you think can name at least 3 or 4 companies that operate this way.
@kzmechanic11 ай бұрын
"Broken strut" Maybe leaking nytrogen or oil but it doesn't look like its broken
@gregoryhodge945211 ай бұрын
So the pilots should refuse to fly and put the plane out of service.
@thatguy800511 ай бұрын
Yikes… reset of a circuit breaker is what likely brought down FLT592… I watched the breaker reset that started the fire.
@0utdoorsman11 ай бұрын
That is why you only reset a popped breaker once. If it goes again, you dont have what ever it was, Period. That is the rule, and industry standard for longer than my three decades in the air.
@christophergaff261711 ай бұрын
I worked for great lakes airlines the FAA on several times would ride with them on a regular basis
@munzeez2111 ай бұрын
"An Impeccable Satefy Record" normally means that they are actually Really That Good (which is normally administrative).... or Really Good at Hiding their Problems.
@EnvyTheRealest10 ай бұрын
This is an American airline? That is unbelievable. Me watching Green Dot Aviation and Mentour Pilot videos, im surprised that his is going on in the US
@Airplanefish11 ай бұрын
Not dedicated to saftey. What about the Key Lime plane that hit houses off the end of 35?
@milkmanplays321910 ай бұрын
2:17 a 430 and OLD kx175 is crazy in that large of planes
@alexnutcasio93611 ай бұрын
I’d expect this to be in Key West, not Colorado
@RobloxianPilot45711 ай бұрын
Yeah-That is what happens when you use older planes, even though the Metroliner is only 50-ish years old and Buffalo Airways uses older. They should definitely do something.
@stumpycatvm711511 ай бұрын
the plane sipps gas, money maker, one hard landing in that plane and it will leak also
@erik_griswold11 ай бұрын
A key issue with older aircraft is do they pressurize or not. Older unpressurized airplanes can, in theory, fly forever if maintained.
@Dexter037S410 ай бұрын
Metros work fine in Canada, see Bearskin.
@hardwhitewolf492511 ай бұрын
This is nothing new with KLA, I don't think the pilots will have a leg to stand on if the paperwork is done correctly. As many items can be deferred. (Meaning fixed at a later time acording to a minimal equipment list). But saying that that place is a grinder and some of the problems they have are very concerning. I know a few coworkers that have left that place and couldn't be happier to get out of that drama.
@bobmcgehee174911 ай бұрын
No freight dogs detected
@kenclark988811 ай бұрын
You don’t fly an EMB-145 single pilot. As you can plainly see in that video it’s a crew of two, also it was never certified single pilot
@FuttBuckerson10 ай бұрын
There should be some sort of immunity/protective standard for pilots given how easily you could figure out who reported a problem "anonymously". Too many aviation accidents in the past in which folks were intimidated/discouraged etc. from reporting safety issues. Whether maintenance or pilots... Thanks to all the pilots out there as well!
@12345fowler11 ай бұрын
Where is the FAA ? Wake them up so they can start doing the job they are assigned for.
@larryblanks676511 ай бұрын
Rotts o ruck key lime air FAA will shut you down. I wouldn't fly them sounds like a death ride to me.
@rizzodefrank11 ай бұрын
Key Lime is going to Key Lime.
@KSCPERFECT11 ай бұрын
I have heard first hand the shitty practices that this company has in place, very dangerous to passengers!
@ctbt183211 ай бұрын
Management needs to be terminated and who is the company or what is the company that supposed to provide the maintenance?
@mattstiles-ok8yz11 ай бұрын
Profit over Professionalism very sad and worry some.
@lisablack238911 ай бұрын
Take a lesson from some of the major carriers like Alaska flight 261, and American flight 232!!!!
@Jmg83111 ай бұрын
Seems like the key lime went sour
@danielcarlson80011 ай бұрын
Resetting circuit breakers in mid-flight?
@astrodude914611 ай бұрын
Leaking fuel and broken strut, that’s wild man.
@YouWillNeverKnow11 ай бұрын
That's pretty par of the course for airplane maintenance Craps not like your car buddym
@TheSleezyT11 ай бұрын
Welcome to part 135 freight! Everyone wants to be a freight dog until they have to do freight dog stuff.
@sparky620011 ай бұрын
There will be a crash before the FAA does ANYTHING.... Im posting this now so I can say "I told you" next year. The airline won't do shit unless somebody makes them
@genechronister708511 ай бұрын
Sad,real sad
@MikeyG00311 ай бұрын
Wtf?! This is terrible, especially not pressurizing the cabin…people need to stop flying this airline
@TheBoomtown411 ай бұрын
Crazy
@morganboutwell823111 ай бұрын
This is the whole USA aviation field. The FAA is 100 years behind.
@Keys87911 ай бұрын
The FAA is apart of the problem, actually.
@charltonmarvinmorley76911 ай бұрын
I am shocked. This is appalling... Where is the FAA?.... Someone needs to wear silver bracelets.
@getmeouttatennessee447311 ай бұрын
Holy crapppppp😮
@EnergeticWaves7 ай бұрын
that gps looked beat to shit
@Mike-zw7fq11 ай бұрын
Truck Drivers have the same problems with dealing with Safety issues. The government is working for the Big Companies that pay big taxes. Safety Last!
@topofthegreen11 ай бұрын
You couldn’t pay me enough to fly for them.
@Keys87911 ай бұрын
No one asked.
@idunnoanymore287011 ай бұрын
Jail the entire management team! Send a loud message to these airlines that this is NOT ACCEPTABLE! THIS IS RUSSIAN ROULETTE!!!
@AMoose45411 ай бұрын
This is common. I know a flew pilots who signed contracts with 135 operators and will do anything to get fired lol.
@Keys87911 ай бұрын
They're never that bad and often times after you have the time and experience, other companies will offer to buy out your contract. Usually they're only for a year or so anyways.
@AMoose45411 ай бұрын
@@Keys879 personally if I sign a contract, I read it before signing. If there’s something in there I don’t like, I red line it. If they don’t agree with the redline, don’t sign the contract. These contracts are also easy to break.
@hotttt2811 ай бұрын
FAA are you listening?
@terenceporter978610 ай бұрын
it sounds personal to me. ''f@ck my boss this company blows''
@metalox8811 ай бұрын
Key Lime first in slime.
@user-oc2dr3xo7n11 ай бұрын
Slow news day in co. Nice hit piece though.... i'd fly them any day. Signed, 121 major airline pilot
@ctbt183211 ай бұрын
Wow 😳
@neckarsulme11 ай бұрын
The answer is simple...Don't fly an unsafe plane. I am a commercial driver and have refused to operate a truck/trailer that had safety defects that made it unsafe to operate on a public road. Can't understand why a pilot would take an aircraft up in an unsafe condition. If they fire you for refusing to fly an unsafe craft, guaranteed you will prevail in a lawsuit
@jdoe498311 ай бұрын
Hardly comparable. Don't comment on things you have no idea about.
@meowmeow275911 ай бұрын
You know nothing of this industry! Aerospace is small and people talk!
@mr.monkeytail905910 ай бұрын
Have we not learned anything over the past years of aviation accidents? Like c'mon now. Most of these I am hearing sounds like a few too similar incidents.
@arufai11 ай бұрын
I blamed FAA
@redbird44411 ай бұрын
Sounds like a slipshod operation.
@Airplanefish11 ай бұрын
That company has a bad reputation on the airport
@user-zx2xx9oc4h11 ай бұрын
This is exactly how Silver Airways was and is.
@richardkallio386811 ай бұрын
Everyone trying to cut corners today. Everything is so expensive for everyone!
@ralphwatt875211 ай бұрын
Safety First Safety Second Safety Third Do a job once Do it Right Why put pilots and passengers Lifes at Risk ?
@andrewbennett775611 ай бұрын
Cow boy company good on the pilots and speaking out
@kapa492910 ай бұрын
i believe the pilots
@chester842011 ай бұрын
Well these pilots are flying cargo on 40 year old Metros. There ya go.