Formula 1 - All Time Drivers' Points using the 25 Pts and Fastest Lap Scoring System

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We are the Data Dudes. 2 data enthusiasts who make timeline and time-series videos. In this video we have made a FANTASY time-lapse review of every single Formula 1 championship point scored by drivers but applying a points system from the modern era. We use a modern era points system to score every single Grand Prix from GP 1 - BRITAIN 1950 until GP 1079 - ABU DHABI 2022 (the most recent GP at the time of creation).
So… how exactly have we scored each GP? We have given the top 10 classified finishes in each race the following points for 1st place to 10th place: 25, 18, 15, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2, 1. Any races were less than 75% of the full distance was completed, we award half points. We also give the driver who has the officially recorded fastest lap an extra point but only if they finish the race classified within the top 10.
Therefore, this can be more or less considered the ruleset from the 2021 season.
Applying this ruleset: We do NOT apply sprint race points, nor do we award things like double points to special races as seen in ABU DHABI 2014. Our intention is to try and apply the easiest to understand ruleset whilst removing any advantages gained by one off rule changes, exceptions or recent additions such as said sprint race points or double points races. In short: a more even playing field with regards to points scoring at least. In the cases where podium steps or finishing positions are shared, we simply give both drivers the points, rather than trying to cope with fractional points, or assigning the points on “merit”. We understand there a lot of other ways to apply these rules, but we are trying to keep things as straightforward as possible.
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@TheDataDudesF1 Жыл бұрын

Thank you all so much for your comments and suggestions! We've made a video just like you asked with the average points per race, check it out! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fZ2krdaY0tTMiWg.html&ab_channel=TheDataDudes

@multikannan100 Жыл бұрын

give facts not fictions avg points will turn out very high if you compare the last 10 years to the previous 10 years because the points given now are for the top 10 whereas it was only till the 6th place & much lesser no of points almost more than half less during Schumacher's time

@jakemaattanen Ай бұрын

Yes, avg points should be calculated from like points are in this video 👍

@gussay Ай бұрын

to be properly fair... you need to factor in the number of races per year that the drivers were able race. F1 history has consisted of between 7 and 22 Grands Prix

@AaaBbb-ff1pn Ай бұрын

@@gussayexactly ... take the total points of every season and distribuite to drivers in percentage. this give equal points to every years,not counting the number of races

@findingandvalue 20 күн бұрын

CAn you add 2023 and do it again in 2024?

@adrianopimenta5523 Жыл бұрын

So sad seeing Senna's counting stopping when we know he could have done much more.

@gemellimusic931 Жыл бұрын

So sad that Clark hadn't a bit enough to overtake Fangio

@eduardosantana8300 Жыл бұрын

I think we can all see and agree from this video that Hamilton is the GOAT and barrichello is the greatest Brazilian driver of all time.

@rns_nickitoloko_psn5775 Жыл бұрын

@@eduardosantana8300 cara, pontuação não diz respeito a habilidade ou performance. A diferença da quantidade de corridas por ano da época do Emerson pra hoje é gritante então é óbvio que o rubinho vai ter mais pontos, ele participou de mais de 300 corridas, não tem como vc não pontuar o suficiente correndo mais de 300 corridas

@adrianopimenta5523 Жыл бұрын

@@eduardosantana8300, by using this criterion (i.e. points), yes. But there is so much more than points when ranking F1 pilots. As much as I think Barrichello was a great F1 driver (and he definitely was!), saying that he had done better than Senna, Piquet and Fittipaldi sound like a joke.

@eduardosantana8300 Жыл бұрын

@@roymcgaw7431 I’m being completely sarcastic about everything.

@hotice88uk Жыл бұрын

The moment I saw Fisichella pass Jim Clark was the moment I realised the extent to which career longevity is the main contributing factor in these numbers - I'd be much more interested to see this data indexed against each driver's total number of races.

@Astro_Gardener Жыл бұрын

Then they would have a point average per race, that might see who has been the best over the years?

@simtekgroup3080 Жыл бұрын

Came here to say that, nothing against the guy, but Fisichella ahead of Clark and Fangio is a bit…weird 😂

@arnaudj.5314 Жыл бұрын

Yeah career longevity AND total number of races per season. I love these videos but we still haven't seen the most accurate representation possible yet

@duxandrespasha Жыл бұрын

Myself too. Also I know Indy was championship but it messes things up.

@rkentwenger5095 Жыл бұрын

Fangio is still by far the best on a per-race basis (I've never seen the calculations by points, but he's #1 per race for wins, poles, and fastest laps...).

@Roguescienceguy Жыл бұрын

The fact that Alain Prost is still in sixth while being an eighties Icon tells a lot about the man's career.

@daisyleedham2275 Жыл бұрын

The fact that Fangio was still on the list 60 years on since his last season I find the most impressive

@dmytrothecat8317 Жыл бұрын

@sylvano81OM that's why Fangio has 24 wins in 52 starts

@leftmono1016 Жыл бұрын

It’s why Senna called Prost a coward for vetoing serious driver team mates. Not saying I agree, but Senna said it in an interview.

@iblard Жыл бұрын

The fact that the video uses the same point system for everyone makes the time the pilot competed totally irrelevant. Prost would be in the list if he made the same number of points during the 50s than during the 2010s.

@AAC42069 Ай бұрын

@@iblard But you forget that there where significantly less races in a season compared to today

@r.dekker858 Жыл бұрын

nice list! Still, in the past there were far fewer races. I know it would be near impossible to "calculate" this correctly but I'm sure some "oldies" would end up a lot higher in the ranks.

@ronintje7647 Жыл бұрын

You could make it a "per race" list. Curious what that would look like, but that would probably also be unfair at some points. Bet the USA racers who only drove Indy500 during those 10 years it counted towards F1 would dominate the ranking then despite only driving a few races.

@christopherbiomass7155 Жыл бұрын

It would be easy to weight the points. Come up with.a 'standard' number of races per year, then adjust the points from this video up (or down) based on the number of races in that year. If you take 23 as the standard, then the races in 2022 would be 1:1, and a race win would be 25 points. A race win from 2012 (a 20 race season) would be worth 28.75. The points awarded would have the formula = points from this vid * (standard number races per year / number of races that year).

@TheDataDudesF1 Жыл бұрын

There is still a way to find a more balanced list though. We are working on it!

@xMrManu Жыл бұрын

@@TheDataDudesF1 what I was thinking was by percentage in the season (ex. in a 14-race season the maximum points would be 25x14 + 14 for the fastest lap), one could try and calculate how many points from the possible total a driver scored

@r.dekker858 Жыл бұрын

@@TheDataDudesF1 thanks, appreciate your efforts :)

@chanelboucher Жыл бұрын

You should also find a way to normalize for the number of races per season. In the fifties, Fangio only had about 7 races a season, today they get 22!! Fangio remains the one with the highest average wins (45%), Won on 4 different teams (Maserati, Ferrari, Mercedes and Alfa). Started his career at 40 yrs old. Had but a single racing accident (he had driven himself from Silverstone to Monza and just made he start of the race from last on the grid).

@timonsolus Жыл бұрын

That’s why ‘win percentage’ is the ultimate F1 stat. The theoretical goal of every F1 driver is to win every single F1 race that he competes in. That would be a 100% win percentage. Juan Manuel Fangio has come closer to achieving that goal than any other F1 driver, since he has won 46.16% of the F1 races that he competed in (24 wins out of 52 races). Alberto Ascari is 2nd, with a win percentage of 40.6% (13 wins out of 32 races). And Jim Clark is 3rd, with a win percentage of 34.7% (25 wins out of 72 races). So these are the 3 most successful F1 drivers of all time. Lewis Hamilton is in 4th position with a win percentage of 33.2% (103 wins out of 310 races). (Note: It’s best to ignore the win percentage of any driver with fewer than 20 races, as any figure of less than 20 is insufficient for a meaningful statistical sample.)

@oslinthompson8182 Жыл бұрын

That crossed my mind whilst watching the video. Additionally, perhaps only include races that they finished. It's different eras and different cars, but interesting nonetheless.

@chriskostopoulos8142 Жыл бұрын

Your average wins would work except modern F1 isn't competitive, in the last 20 odd years it has been dominated to death by one car or the other. First Ferrari, Redbull, Mercedes and now Redbull again. Makes their drivers look better than they perhaps are. Most fans are too stupid to see this obvious issue and think that their manufacturers driver is the greatest ever. E.G. #blessed in the Mercedes.

@timonsolus Жыл бұрын

@@oslinthompson8182 : No, I would include races that the drivers don’t finish. It’s part of the driver’s job to avoid all accidents (even ones that aren’t their fault), and also to look after the car’s machinery so that it doesn’t break down during the race.

@timonsolus Жыл бұрын

@@chriskostopoulos8142 : Yes, in the old days of unlimited testing, teams would still sometimes create dominant cars, but they would only be dominant for 1 season, or at most 2 seasons, before another team built a better car. Mind you, looking back before F1, look up the 1936-1939 Grand Prix seasons - totally dominated by the German Auto Union and Mercedes-Benz teams. They completely destroyed the opposition.

@karlhulme8014 Ай бұрын

My personal winner is the driver who stopped mid conversation with his team during a race practice session and beckoned over a shy 10 year old boy to say hello and give an autograph … the boy was me…the driver Jackie Stewart.

@moongate31 Ай бұрын

Sir Jackie is by far my favorite F1 driver of all time as well as the reason I became an F1 fan in the first place. I remember watching him in the early 70s, especially in the Monaco GP. Besides his racing success, perhaps his greater contribution to F1 was improving safety and medical support at the racetrack. He still has the best tag line ever in F1 (said in his high-pitched Scottish burr): "It's a grrreat day for motorrr racing"

@h.a.9880 Ай бұрын

This chart is crazy. Senna being in the all-time top 10 despite driving much fewer races than those drivers that came after him and Schumacher being stopped just shy of 4k points and still maintains second place... impressive. Verstappen might now be somewhere in the ballpark of Alain Prost, but even so it'll take some time to crack past Vettel and Schumacher.

@josephneill691 Ай бұрын

The way Jim Clark jumps so rapidly up to rival Fangio but then stops because of a Formula 2 race always has me thinking of what could have been. He mightn't be the goat, but he's my goat

@ZuluRomeo Жыл бұрын

Most telling of all is how close Rubens Barrichello and Ayrton Senna ended up. One driver once held the longevity record for most Grands Prix while always playing second best to his team mate, and the other of course burned brightly and ever so short.

@theINQBS Ай бұрын

Ruby was MUCH better than his record states and had it not been for team intervention he'd have at least one title over Michael on merit. He was that damn brilliantly good. I hate when people talk smack about Rubens. He's an all-time great and deserves respect.

@gz3zbz Жыл бұрын

Prost was a boss.

@magnusmunch2116 Жыл бұрын

I’m not sure on this. But if the morden pointsystem Where in use prost would be a 7 time champ, senna would have 1, lauda didnt win his 3rd with mclaren and nielson lost his last to prost

@thomasseyffert1095 Жыл бұрын

@@magnusmunch2116 there is another video out that calculates exactly that, Prost would indeed be a 7 time (nearly 8) champ.

@hugoagogo9435 Жыл бұрын

@@magnusmunch2116 I’m sure what you say is correct and I can’t be bothered working it out. But god that’s mind boggling

@skodalaskoda8754 Жыл бұрын

the boss

@JNST2023 Жыл бұрын

@@thomasseyffert1095 Only issue though is that drivers would have driven differently with a different point system

@rhayadervidra6903 Жыл бұрын

Reutemann was the largest surprise in that in the early 80s. Never knew he was that good.

@np4029 Жыл бұрын

He was the David Coulthard of his era.

@philipking7559 Жыл бұрын

I scrolled down to see if anyone else had said this, yeah didn't expect him to be anywhere near the top at any time.

@TheKentaurion Ай бұрын

Reutemann and Hulme was the only names I never heard of before. Seven of these guys are still driving, so there will be changes if the list would be updated as for 2024.

@metacosmos 20 күн бұрын

Coulthard deserved to be world champion but his style was far from the maestro reutemann.

@HoratioFitzbastard 8 күн бұрын

One point away from the DC in '81.

@ivicapavic3381 Жыл бұрын

You also need to take into account the fact that seasons had less races during Schumacher's era (16-18 at the most), making his records even more impressive.

@6St6Jimmy6 22 күн бұрын

And reliability improved a ton after 2010 or so.

@RDGamer321 Жыл бұрын

Watching Vettel and Hamilton race each other up the leaderboard in the early to mid 2010's is insane.

@P9B Жыл бұрын

Kinda like Kimi and Alonso!

@bigsteve4203 Жыл бұрын

@@P9B but greater. These two dominated a whole decade. Absolute greats of the sport.

@anesvick Ай бұрын

2005-2013 were some of the best years of F1 from a fan standpoint. Why they got rid of the V8's I'll never understand.... they actually had competition on the grid, teams weren't massively overpowered because they spent 1 billion dollars on research and hid it in their parent company.

@ljubastojanovic608 7 күн бұрын

@@bigsteve4203 It is more correct to say that Renault dominated dor only 2 Years and Red Bull and Mercedes much longer. Indycar is showing real driver value, the cars being almost identical, in F1 car is dominant factor. About those "if" discussion... My favorite driver Mansell should have clean 2 titles prior his 1992 dominance. If Williams didnt have stupid politics not to keep actual World champion, meaning Mansell not leaving in 1993 he would score at least next 3 Willians titles Prost, Damon, Jack) and probabely both of Schumachers titles in Benetton. But this is for discussion only. Instead, he was Indy champ as a Rookie in 1993.

@drewmah8735 Жыл бұрын

It was interesting to see how long Fangio remained in the list. Perhaps it should be based on average per race, or maybe remove points for penalties applied in a Grand Prix weekend.

@komakie Ай бұрын

Average per race could work. But the longer the career, the harder to maintain. This list is the other way around. The longer you career, the higher you get because of the points you score.

@primozsever1367 Ай бұрын

@@komakie Well drivers had long careers also back then, the biggest problem is that they could only score on like 12-16 events per year. In 2000+ They raced 16-18 and I think since 2012 it's 20+ races per season

@darkalman Жыл бұрын

Prost doesn't get enough credit Bonus points for Reubens and Valtteri for being the highest on the list without a championship

@stevenanthony578 Жыл бұрын

For a proper comparison, you need to show % of available points. This would account for the fact that there are different numbers of races in a season over the years. Without this correction, your list is basically meaningless as it gives current drivers an edge due to the longer calendar they raced to.

@MicuBamba 11 күн бұрын

Meaningless in any case: 6 places allowed points in 90s, so a driver would've risks much more to achieve that position during a race... Or calculate these risks differently. These are nothing more than funny stats.

@tompw3141 Жыл бұрын

Fangio spent *sixty years* in the top list on-screen. Legend.

@pk1342 Жыл бұрын

Would be interesting if you worked out their points tally for each season using their % finishes in each position and extrapolated that to 22 race seasons for everyone's career.

@_Dibbler_ Жыл бұрын

Or just calculate points per race...(with this what if everyone had the same points system of course)

@harpsw3390 Жыл бұрын

The fact Fangio was still on that list in 2012 on cements how great the man was.

@impact224488 19 күн бұрын

2018 even. Its crazy

@onlynb947 Жыл бұрын

Prost is an absolute underrated legend

@ftolead Жыл бұрын

He is my all time favorite.

@eduardosantana8300 Жыл бұрын

He’s in a three way GOAT battle with Senna and Fangio.

@resulnaki Жыл бұрын

@@eduardosantana8300 lol you meant with Schumi, Fangio, and Hamilton.

@eduardosantana8300 Жыл бұрын

@@resulnaki I can add Schumacher to the list sure. Won a championship in a midfield car, just like Prost. Never lost to a teammate during his prime. And until recently was the most successful driver ever (although this stat is the least important as it’s not a accurate measure of skill, but team success). Kind of hard to have Hamilton in the goat debate. He lost multiple times to a teammate over the course of an entire season. And while George Russell may turn out to be an all time great, nobody has button and Rosberg on their all time greats list. Losing to button and Rosberg, and now Russell kind of shows that Hamilton isn’t levels above everyone else. He’s a great driver in a great team. He definitely can’t win a championship in a midfield car. His 2008 championship was super impressive. He’s not anywhere near Senna in pace.

@resulnaki Жыл бұрын

@@eduardosantana8300 Schumi is the goat without a single shroud of doubt. Senna could barely compete with Schumi in his prime while Schumi was a rookie in the 3rd best car. It's Schumi, Fangio, Hamilton, Prost, then Senna/Vettel

@tonycooper4141 Жыл бұрын

More exciting than many GP's! Wonderful.

@dirtysideofthetrack Жыл бұрын

Well that’s had me utterly mesmerized all the way through. Superb!! Now I know you can’t equalize the number of races from season to season but this is as close as you can get. Hits hard watching certain drivers like Clark, Senna etc stop rising way too early.

@SimonvDay Ай бұрын

Epic dataviz! To the point where it was emotional. It was a goosebump moment when Senna didn’t surpass Prost, that is now sealed (career longevity considered). The F1 audio track closes out this awesome experience. More please.👌

@nfineon Ай бұрын

Wow this was very enjoyable to watch, it's a metarace across time in this format, lots of good work!!

@RJSRdg Жыл бұрын

Is there any way of "weighting" the scores so that drivers who drove in eras when there were far fewer races than today get more points per race? Quite interesting to see though that despite the much higher number of races these days, Hulme, Brabham, Fittipaldi, Graham Hill, Stewart and Lauda all still make the top 32.

@quintuscrinis8032 Жыл бұрын

You could probably do a list on percentage of points a driver could have won using this chart. But it then depends how many decimal points you want to work to. And it still wouldn't account for car dominance questions.

@gweah7821 Жыл бұрын

Just divide the points by the number of races held that year.

@thomashancock1462 Жыл бұрын

Points per race would be the most accurate I would think

@davidfoster1762 Жыл бұрын

Good point

@josepedroteixeira3120 Жыл бұрын

Points per race

@marcodhaene Жыл бұрын

It's insane to realise that Max is just 25 but already 7th on this list. The dominant Mercedes era is clearly visible when you see Lewis and Valtteri shoot up the ranking. Nice to see it like this 😁

@Kam1Kaz3NL77 Жыл бұрын

And ofcourse don't forget Nico Rosberg in his equal machinery! :P

@PeterJPickles Жыл бұрын

Remember people called Lewis crazy for going there, as they were very poor at the time, Lewis helped that team become what it became, people forget that, shame....

@marcodhaene Жыл бұрын

@@PeterJPickles agreed, but... Schumacher also laid a pretty nice foundation as far as team members, facilities and sponsorships go. Don't forget that as well 😉

@pablokenzie47 Жыл бұрын

@@marcodhaene Michael had NOTHING to do with the 2014 Mercedes, His driving style and car setup were completely different from Lewis's, From 2013 Mercedes and Ross Brawn began to build around Lewis after no significant results with Michael. As Michael was a Legend, he brought Awe and inspiration, team morale, and that was about it. But Lewis brought Results. With or without Michael Schumacher, Lewis was destined to bring 8 x Constructors titles to Mercedes. The foundation of Mercedes is 100% Ross Brawn, no other name is worthy to be beside his in this matter.

@marcodhaene Жыл бұрын

@@pablokenzie47 that's why I said "foundation as far as team members facilities and sponsorships go". Nothing to do with the car, all with the team behind it 😉

@vosje6130 Ай бұрын

the music, the editing, this video is really well made, this must have taken you quite a while! RESPECT

@Andrew_Fernie Ай бұрын

Holy moly, that was an astounding piece of work !

@lcdubs7847 Жыл бұрын

This is a fantastic way to compare drivers. Thanks for creating that list.

@mundoeze Жыл бұрын

Not so much because in the past were much less races per season so less points.. but it was interesting to watch

@WH0oo... Жыл бұрын

It's a view point absent the complexities and circumstances surrounding a race/season.

@profesormajor Жыл бұрын

This only proves once again what a beast Fangio was.

@arposkraft3616 Ай бұрын

As a long time coulthard fan i must say it warms my heart and speaks to his consistency to see him among those top greats

@StuHolland Ай бұрын

This was a bloody brilliant video - god knows how long this must have taken you. Great work!

@DaimonF1 Жыл бұрын

Realy brilliant job, you are the best! Thank you! Nobody has done this table

@miguelksas5283 Жыл бұрын

Que grande el Lole Reutemann!!! prohibido olvidar lo enorme que fue. 💙🤍💙

@ARGDevilDog Жыл бұрын

F Argentina

@biker75 Ай бұрын

That song makes epic every single video! Nice info, thanks... Very heavy names on top

@VC_27 Ай бұрын

Fantastic projection! Loved it.

@MateusPasseri Ай бұрын

Need to update this to 2024...

@lmao7439 15 күн бұрын

not much has changed tbh, max only jumped prost uptill now

@AdamRizky97 Жыл бұрын

So once again it's 2012 when the top 5 in this list were racing together, what a season, what a year to be alive to watch the whole 2012 season

@jr-g Жыл бұрын

Awesome video! Lovely data visualization.

@jordyheinecke Жыл бұрын

The background music is just amazing 🙌 Thank you so much for it ☝️

@willbill6449 Жыл бұрын

Brilliantly done. Do you have software for this stuff, or did you do this manually?🤔 Either way, tons of effort, great result. Thank you!

@gamerkat99 Жыл бұрын

Absolute. Mega. Chad @TheDataDudes. How long did THIS TAKE TO MAKE?

@8enable Жыл бұрын

Great vid Wonderful to see so many names from the past Thank you

@rubberjohnny1 Жыл бұрын

Seeing Jim stop a few races into 68 after only being in the sport 8 years 🥺

@jerrylouis8930 Жыл бұрын

This comment deserves all the dislikes, for reason clear to understand.

@rubberjohnny1 Ай бұрын

@@jerrylouis8930lost to time

@jimmymcgoochie5363 Жыл бұрын

I’m surprised how far up the list Coulthard is, but then again he could have been a multiple world champion if not for Schumacher. A comparison based on average points per race would be informative both to balance the difference in races per year and for those drivers whose careers were cut short- the top 5 have had much longer careers with more races per year than most others which skews the results in their favour.

@juhol2923 Жыл бұрын

How could Coulthard be a champion when always losing to his teammate in McLaren?

@davids3539 Жыл бұрын

Average per race doesn't show progression/accumulation over time. You could just have the end screen. I think giving the points a multiplier where there were fewer races would be good. While I would like to see longevity represented, it's not the drivers' fault that there were fewer races back in the day.

@derriethelm1524 Жыл бұрын

@@juhol2923 2001 I guess

@gemellimusic931 Жыл бұрын

@@juhol2923 tbh Coulthard was better number 2 than Rubens in Ferrari. However, he was always forcely put behind Hakkinen

@largol33t12 Ай бұрын

@@juhol2923 I agree. Hakkinen made him look like a rookie many times. And don't forget, in 1995, while leading the Australian GP, DC crashed in the PITS!!!😂😂

@midslam Жыл бұрын

This was great to see. Would be interesting to see them all with the same number of races per season (i.e. the shorter seasons have races/points calculated as a percentage of their actual results for that season). Fantastic content as always fellas.

@damiansilvester9928 Ай бұрын

Awesome animation of stats! Good programming!

@sarahroberts8724 Ай бұрын

Impressive video! Thank you.

@pieterr.vandermerwe756 Ай бұрын

Amazing. Keep them coming. Great data hygiene and representation

@pieterr.vandermerwe756 Ай бұрын

One can literally see what the meteorological rise of Verstappen looks like towards the end of the video

@kiwipaul5024 Жыл бұрын

Was incredible to see kiwi Denny Hulme finish on the last frame equal to Jack Brabham with who's team he was the only kiwi to win an f1 championship !!

@ccramit Жыл бұрын

I honestly thought this was the F1 youtube channel putting this out. It's some guys with less than 1k subs? Impressive.

@tadroid3858 Ай бұрын

That was awesome. Do it again!!

@donwheeler1683 Ай бұрын

Wow! That was fantastic to watch! Drivers names I didn't even know plus up and coming drivers and their quick success shown......waiting for a Verstappen update!

@alban020587 Жыл бұрын

Prost is highly underrated. Give him 18gps per season and he tops the ranking.

@largol33t12 Ай бұрын

And remember, he admitted to throwing away several victories because Senna was so hellbent on petty revenge. Prost sometimes just thought (he admitted this in an interview with a magazine) "Second place is fine with me, thank you very much." And a McLaren insider said sometimes this frustrated Senna to no end!

@meta7gear Ай бұрын

He would be on many peoples top 5 lists if not for the romanticism surrounding Senna.

@cchuvan Ай бұрын

Give Prost a point system that counts every race in the season and he has something like 8 titles instead of just 4. He's up there in the Pantheon with Schumi, Hamilton and Senna, no question.

@marcosvieira6198 Ай бұрын

Alain Prost is a scam. 89 belongs to Senna.

@chrismuz Жыл бұрын

Good job! - Interesting: 1. 7 Brits, 5 Brazilians, 4 Germans (+ Rindt), 3 Finns, 3 Aussis, 2 French, 2 Austrians, 1 Spaniard, 1 Dutch, 1 Mexican, 1 Kiwi, 1 Argentinian, 1 Italian 2. Fangio not in the top 32 3. Only a single Italian (but 3 Finns!) 4. Berger > Lauda.

@Ahito1984 Жыл бұрын

5. Barrichello > A. Senna LOL

@chrismuz Жыл бұрын

@@Ahito1984 True, I overlooked that one

@soundscape26 Жыл бұрын

Italy doesn't have a F1 champion since 1953 and Ascari is still the Italian driver with more GP wins at 13. Italiy's strength in F1 is much more connected to Ferrari than its home grown drivers.

@burninglion2584 Ай бұрын

It's very interesting watching this animated - you can clearly see the improvement with each driver as they rose the ranks, and why they were stood out for greatness.

@pjgtech Ай бұрын

Nice data dive thank you

@houch7640 Ай бұрын

Please do this again upto 2024

@Rob-hc5ry Жыл бұрын

That’s brilliant … great to see all those drivers names from the past and Lewis at the top..

@ninjamoraes Жыл бұрын

Esse é o maior favor que você fez para todos que gostam de Fórmula 1. Meus agradecimentos.

@christopherbiomass7155 Жыл бұрын

Nice. I've been waiting for this one. 🙂🏎

@LimeyTX Жыл бұрын

What would be interesting would be to see the same table but with points divided by starts to adjust for the fact that there are so many more races today.

@ruppert5134 Жыл бұрын

In that case I think Fangio and senna and maybe verstappen would be top3...... I would include finishes too

@fredschepers5149 Ай бұрын

So what stops you to create such? I think many would love to see that.. 👍🏻

@artifundio1 Жыл бұрын

OMG, what a masterpiece!! Thank you, thank you, thank you. I know I am going to rewatch this 👌

@danylo4670 Ай бұрын

The top 7 are a testament to F1 safety evolution as much as success... Many talented driver's lives were cut short in the 60s to early 90s. A comparison of points per race entered would be a fascinating comparison of points against the field vs career duration. Just a thought.

@rakeshmistry5037 Жыл бұрын

Very well done. Excellent work. Would now from there be cool to see the percentage points per race considering the length of the older drivers careers.

@MrJiminibobster Жыл бұрын

I would also be really interested to see if, using this scoring system for previous seasons, there would be an years where it would have led to a different driver winning the WDC?!

@reldwob22 Жыл бұрын

Many times! There are websites and video that show this. But you drive to the points that are available, so drivers would have made different decisions if they had different points, so you cannot really say things would have been different. We are so lucky that there are always the very best in F1, at any time, in any era.

@n8pls543 Жыл бұрын

IIRC, some people did that and determined that Prost was actually incredibly close to being a 7 time WDC, which speaks volumes about his career consistency despite how many teams he drove for.

@magicofshootingstar5825 Жыл бұрын

This was interesting statistic. 🙂 I just were thinking would it be more fair if there wouldn't be fastest lap point because in 60 years they weren't specifically after that and "lost" many easy points in this statistic because of that. 🤔

@exsappermadman25055 Ай бұрын

Excellent wee vid this, I bet a few of us thought about it a few times...

@Snoflakes_1 Ай бұрын

I was looking forward to Verstappen's absolute launch that was 2022 and 2023, but I guess this video isn't recent enough for that

@RiminiVirage Ай бұрын

Thankfully! Are points removed for being gifted a world title by an incompetent race director?

@oktimusbrime6751 Ай бұрын

@@RiminiVirage Cry me a river 😂

@grahamleigh8398 Ай бұрын

@@oktimusbrime6751won’t go away. 😂. Max hasn’t even started yet.

@clipanddone Ай бұрын

@@RiminiVirage My god Rimi get over it already... Shal we also take one championship away from Lewis then ? Masa was cheated out if this in '08 because of Renault. Both are legal WC.

@Anriandor Жыл бұрын

Truly the greatest of all time 🏁

@MrWATM Ай бұрын

Awesome video. So many great names at the top. Still apples and oranges because of the incredible fatality rate up until the modern era. Even the great ones can't score points if they're dead.

@stevemorris3710 Ай бұрын

This is amazing!

@RJSRdg Жыл бұрын

Of course the one factor that cannot be taken into account is those drivers of the past whose careers were cut short by fatal or life-changing accidents that today's drivers would walk away from.

@Jordanmilo Жыл бұрын

That was very cool. Lots of surprises: How far Lewis is ahead of Michael. How well all the Brazilians on the list did; I didn't expect Felipe and Rubens to place so high, since they are without titles. And Kimi and Fernando are surprisingly high, since they've both had seasons where they struggled. Thanks for putting that together. It's very illuminating.

@michaeltrumph121 Жыл бұрын

Hamilton has competed in way more races than Schumacher and has had the best car out there for a longer period of time.

@brolo7234 Жыл бұрын

Not really surprising at all. Hamilton has always been in the best teams and has been racing for far longer. Schumacher went to Ferrari when they were at their worst.

@TheUKNutter Жыл бұрын

This is something I’ve always asked myself as a kid. I’m glad it’s now a reality. Really good stuff

@benvallentine7197 Жыл бұрын

What an amazing graphic. Was just like watching a race!

@joerogers9626 Жыл бұрын

Is Max the only driver here for whom his entire career has been under one points system? And if so, why does his points tally not match that quoted elsewhere of 2011.5 pts? Edit: Great video by the way ☺ Forgot to say. Always wondered how this would pan out for the all-time greats.

@joerogers9626 Жыл бұрын

Oh wait... Sprint Races? 🙄

@TheDataDudesF1 Жыл бұрын

Yeap! Sprint races do not count!

@TheRoboteer Жыл бұрын

@@joerogers9626 They also only (re)introduced the fastest lap point in 2019.

@Lucas-xj3fh Жыл бұрын

*Prost* chad

@911jdc Жыл бұрын

That was incredible!

@Chiefwilburthegreat Жыл бұрын

it made me depressed watching lewis catch Michael knowing that he could not be stopped

@RahatBinKamal Жыл бұрын

Tremendous effort

@frasersimpson8264 Ай бұрын

Would be good to see stats around points per race as obviously the later drivers did way more races per year so were always going to score more points, but if it was done using these numbers, but was their number of points divided by the races they competed in then that gives you an idea of who the most consistent winners / scorers were right ! Love this stuff though, very interesting, thanks so much for putting in the time to do this for our entertainment :)

@JoeCobragaming Жыл бұрын

What blows me away is that alonso finishes in 4th and has only won 2 world championships compared to the guys above him. Goes to show what a legend he is.

@trance9158 Жыл бұрын

Lewis and Bottas!! Lewis on top will piss off a lot of haters.

@fredschepers5149 Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂 is that all you've got out of this 😂😂😂😂 Did you actually know the names on this list before, or was you just interested to see where Hamilton ended... 😂😂😂😂

@trance9158 Ай бұрын

@@fredschepers5149 kid... I've been watching F1 since 1980. I've seen these drivers race. Try something more creative.

@BTG07 Жыл бұрын

I always wondered about this, and now i dont have to wonder anymore.

@troggamer261 Ай бұрын

Beautiful. I'm gonna watch again at VSC speed.

@StanDMan01 Ай бұрын

WOW ... This has to be the best Data Analysis video I have seen with moving subjects and points occurred Fantastic

@greggesaman535 Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I felt the same about Jim Clark. Two of the best that were gone before their time.

@ChrisLomax-xj5pw Жыл бұрын

Great work. Would be interesting to see a point per race using the same data for those whose careers were unfortunately cut short, or those who are young in their careers

@DoneRightReviews Ай бұрын

LOVE THIS! What about points per race started / finished?

@sotitofanschop Жыл бұрын

I did the same not too long ago! I plotted it differently. Accumulating over time with points on Y axis and time on X axis. That way you can really see who stands out from their peers and comparing well races per season etc. Wikipedia has one graph like that but without adjusting the scoring system. To me it was clear Fangio, Clark, Stewart, Lauda, Prost, Schumi and Hamilton so above everyone else, absolute rock stars. Also highlighting how Alonso absolutely broke through in 2-3 years clear of everyone else.

@attilaszabo3505 Ай бұрын

Thank you so much for this analysis, I have always been interested in seeing the apple to apple comparison. However, it is not really fair, there were completely different situation in the 50s-60s etc than today. They all had their own demons, a champion is a champion, defeated the others within the same conditions. If someone wins today, might not be a winner 20 years ago in a different environment and opposite is true also. These drivers and teams are the best of the best, sometimes very close to each other finishing the race. But anyhow, it is nice to see on a board how they would be ranked with the same scoring system. All hail Kimi :) To the top Max Sir Lewis, good luck with Ferrari, hope they can do a proper wheel change... Fernando, keep pushing very very hard, man, buena suerte Lando, I am crossing fingers Charles, you are a champion, keep pushing Carlos, it will all be good :) Nico, those need the most support who are chasing the others :)) Yuki, stay calm.. Daniel - I want to see you again drinking from the boots... ;)

@atgordon1948 Ай бұрын

Brilliant!

@fasthracing Жыл бұрын

Great work. Was amazed at how long Graham Hill stayed at the top.

@siouex Ай бұрын

Fascinating data, it took me 30min to go through this 7min clip

@JonnyOpinionated Жыл бұрын

This is an amazing list - I didn't even think of considering ranking them this way. Did anyone watch this and think "Who the hell is Carlos Reutmann?"

@C_and_C... Жыл бұрын

The guy came a Las Vegas carpark away from being 1981 world champion.

@rkentwenger5095 Жыл бұрын

I was a little surprised Reutemann was so high, but I started as an F1 fan in the 70s, so no, I didn't think that.

@saltbjorn Жыл бұрын

No.

@148quickbricks Жыл бұрын

I knew who he was but I was shocked to see him go top at one point

@MickPsyphon Жыл бұрын

When you compare the number of races per season that each of the drivers in the top 10 or 20 raced in, it's heavily biased in favour of the current drivers. It also doesn't take other factors into play, but I won't hijack the comments with that discussion. Suffice to say that it would be worth looking into a way to weigh the scores through the number of races that were on the season calendar. I think many people would be surprised to see those results. On another note, this does shine a light on just how good some of the great drivers of the past were. Sir Stirling Moss was truly the greatest driver to never have won a championship; and he deserves to be in the ranks with the champions. Then there are those drivers who died, before they had a chance to give us a full career of superb racing. Jim Clark. Gilles Villeneuve. Ayrton Senna. Imagine....

@izmesamsung2581 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic!!!

@GREG-SC Жыл бұрын

Intriguing video. The tenure differences offset the totals. It would be interesting to see a comparison of everyone in just the first 10 years. Or any year number that catches a large group to see a good comparison where longevity doesn't aide in outscoring.