If we talk about the angle.... I hate how your light bulb is at an angle compared to the shade.

I've always wondered why they don't have Indycar style cameras that do a 360 which shows you exactly who is coming up from behind and to the side and then around for the overtake in one smooth shot. It's brilliant for showing speed, and the beauty of an overtake, and who is at fault for what in crashes.

I'll be honest it's not the angles that need changing. They need to increase the FOV and shutter speed to give a better sense of speed (and more visibility/less blurriness for the viewer) and also increase the bitrate/quality.

Hamilton said they found some new better angles during filming APXGP. Including one that allows to feel speed. Can't wait to see Alonso's attack from new crash-baton angle. He lefts no margin so it must be sick.

I love the current onboards though as well, I hope they keep the front-side onboard look.

The camera should be placed in the middle of the rain light. That would truly actually show you how close cars actually race. Edit - i wrote this before you mentioned overheating 😂

Hey Matt! I’d love to see a video all about the GPS system: how they track the location of cars and get the crazy accurate timing across the line. I feel like this is something you could do a really interesting video on!

Amazing how far RaceCam has come since Channel 7 introduced it in 1979. Back then the camera was huge and was able to be turned 360 deg by the broadcast director. The images from the camera were sent to a helicopter flying overhead then back down to the ground for use by the TV channel.

i love if they make helmet camera's mandatory because that was a cool thing to watch and also the new onboard camera looks good to real wing camera this is exciting hope they would add it in the next season

That's pretty interesting. I'm currently watching the 1987 season and they actually used a rear onboard camera in a similar angle as the one you described in the Brabham of Andrea de Cesaris at least during the Portuguese GP (I think that it was also used in the Spanish GP, but it might be my memory tricking me). It's pretty cool to see these camera angles being brought back.

Seems you missed the drone angles , they have been present before but not as boldly as Silverstone. That seems new also, thought it was worth a mention.

Hold on, I have not seen ANY pedal cam this season and ive watched every session where something is on the line (everything other than free practice) (would love to watch that from time to time but no broadcast does them i think) So how is that in place for this season?

This angle was first used on Andrea De Cesaris' Brabham in late 1987!

And you can thank the 7 Network Australia who invented what was then "race-cam" in the late 1970s for their broadcast of the Bathurst 1000. It was the first ever live-from-racing-car footage, and it included a remote controlled camera which could swivel, and 2-way audio communication between driver and commentator. Cutting edge stuff for the era! This was pre-WiFi, pre-cellular.

Love seeing these angles in MotoGP/WSBK, seeing bikes laying on each other never gets old. I'm sure seeing drivers trying to make a charge will produce similar excitement!

For me, those T cams and helmet cams are the best onboard angles. I like how they are testing some new ways to show the tracks as well. Whatch a car coming from behind is kind of useles if we already can see the car in front getting closer and closer from the T-camera in the overtaking car.

Id like it if this cam was more fisheyed, so we could maybe just see the rear tires. Still a good addition

The first time I can recall a rear camera being used in a live F1 broadcast was on Andrea de Cesaris’ Brabham in 1987. I’ll pause here while everyone considers who was the team owner at the time… :)

Landos car had rear facing camera also. I was watching his onboard feed all race and they turned his rear camera on when hamilton was getting close

These in depth videos are amazing!

Best F1 channel on KZfaq. Thanks for sharing.

I did notice it on the safety car!

I'm surprised there's no cameras on the opposite side of the rearview mirrors looking forward. Wouldn't add drag like the T-cam and would be a cool shot I think.

Matt love your tips thanks for explaining the safety car cam also the T cam ❤ 😎🎥🎥🎥

F1 needs to use the camera angle Indy Car uses where the camera on the roll bar captures the approach, overtake and finally the lead. The camera literally rotated throughout the whole process capturing the entire process.

What about the "auto pan" camera? I saw a backmarker getting past and his camera captured the move of the faster car and kept the lense on the passing car as it zipped by!!

Why F1 still uses the static "T-cam" over the disk shaped rotating camera used in the US have quite a time, is beyond me.

i like T cams more because the fov isnt that narrow like on the "rear cam". Also you see the moment better when they go side by side and gives more of an overhead view

Seriously,i love every camera apart from the traditional tv camera, zooming into the driver eyes mid corner, zooming into the tyres,into the sponsors in the rear wing... This piss me off so much

the only thing I still don't understand is why don't they use a wider FOV so it gives a better sense of speed

What really needs to change is the FOV. This simple change would actually make the onboards look fast. Crazy, I know.

They need a camera to look down at the track so they can tell instantly when a car is off the track. The driver can then be notified immediately and take corrective action.

If only F1 could put this kind of effort into making the normal cameras on the circuit and the stream better..

i am still hoping for a wider angle camera to make it look faster

Up in the Air?! That's a brilliant film!

I would love to see 360° onboard cameras just like in indycar

Sick! Now we can see all the drivers behind Max👍🏾

All I wanted was for the T-camera to be positioned higher so we could see the nose and front wing of the car, something like the Formula E camera. It's much better this way, I can't stand cars looking like a bathtub with wheels in the onboard camera view.

I liked this & 360 camera quite a lot. They should be used more. Its a bummer that they cant use the 360 live(i read that its due to bandwidth restrictions on f1 car), But atleast F1 tv shows them in Top 10 onboards video after every race on f1tv. That double overtake on Charles bby KMag & Max in Miami this year was chef's kiss in 360 camera.

There's so many good choices for camera placement though, looking at what other series have one. Indycar has had some great ones over the year, the shoulder camera on a speedway was always good since you were at driver's head level,then in the early 2000s we had helmet cams, and now the 360 cameras, the PTZ ones that are always giving great shots. Oh and can we talk about the one at track level looking back from the gearbox I emember from the late 80s/early 90 too, It was fascinating watching just how much the suspension moved around when the car as a whole didn't seem to move that much. I mean. I'll take helmet cam over T-cam any day, I' like more camera choices personally And from tin top/stok cars we've had a front facing suspension that doubled as a brake cam, the foot/pedal cam on road courses pointed at, you guessed it, the pedals, and latterly, helmet cameras, and pit crew cameras too in a lot. NHRA had rear wing mounte cams. Nothing like having nitro flames spitting out on either side of the shot and staring dead ahead at the roll hoop and the quarter mile,then the flames going from barely there to bright as the car launches EDIT: Also forgot the camera on/in the back bumpers too fof various cars, and used for great effect during pittop, too. Also from Indycar, I don't recall if it was just a for the opening lap of the race bit, but they had one on the very tip of the nose. which at Laguna in 94, backfired when Rahal had it on his car, went off, and there went that angle for the rest of the race, it was the same idea as the gearbox camera, just pointed forward. Actually it showed up again, the rear facing one in 2004 when F1 refugee Gaston Mazacane, yes, that one, got into the back of the car ahead under yellow. All that was needed was the AMR team to put a set of shark teeth on that car. Also NASCAR had the pace car camera idea back in the early 90s, it's hown up quite a bit here an there but never for very long, so there's so many notes F1 can take and ry out. I'd love to see a shot of the car in action, with throttle/brake/steering traces between team mates in a ession, sort of thing. I loved, in the Grand Prix games from Geoff Crammond, sitting down, going over the aforementioned traces and working out where I was losing time to everyone else, or whre I was quicker

Thanks! But why are onboard cameras broadcasted just in 720p?

This angle has been around since at least 1989. There is great footage of Senna ploughing into the back of Brundle in the rain at Adeliade.

So for seated PCVR flight and racing Sims, you need to buy controllers?

I still kinda want the front T Cam to be centered

It's nice that they've found an aerodynamically invisible place to put the camera on F1 cars, but as an angle it's no different from BTCC in the late '90s. I think I've even seen a GT3 car run such an angle. Hopefully the sensation of speed is good down there, though.

Idk the science behind this but since we’re on the topic, why is it not possible to film races in a way that captures the speed of the cars? I know it’s probably something about frames…? But speaking as a new fan it was a really weird disconnect realising these cars are actually going well over 200km/hr. Could there not be more static shots that demonstrate the speed? Cause I feel like that’s a key part of… racing. Just wondering, super excited about these new angles though :)

Did you also see McLaren testing a new pedal cam during FP1 which is forward facing?

I mostly want to see the telemetry updated so we can see how many % the driver brakes

Interesting video, I wouldn’t have known about this otherwise great work thank you.

The need a smaller focal length so the it looks waay faster and it looks so much better. They more of a fisheye effect back in the early 2000s

I believe during one of the FP sessions Lando was runnning a pedal cam but from a view beneth his seat. Do you know anything about this change/test?

I don't like the fact that the T cam is offset to a side, I liked whne the airbox intake camera was center line

The "t" cameras should have side views too

I want the T cams to see more of the surroundings around the car so it makes them look faster 😅

But will we get the view on F1 TV?

So this is the first time F1 has had a camera at the back of the pace car? Boy, they need to catch up

They should put a rotating camera like on the Indycar!!

no views? But we love your videos!

Ask any sinracing channel, forum, Reddit - they will create a video simulating this cam for you

An idea I've had for years now is that sporting events like this should have 360 cameras on cars and on the spectator spots, so that people with VR headsets can join in and sit on the tribunes with every one else. Or pretend they are sitting in the cockpit of the cars. I can't believe it hasn't been done yet, i would gladly pay heard earned cash to watch sporting events this way. Sit ringside on a boxing match for example is another idea, or have cameras mounted on roller coasters. The ideas are limitless. it just constantly send out a 360 video that anyone can join in and view.

Very random question, but do you happen to know who the camera supplier is?

What if nothing the phone company pairs up with a F1 team and create a transparent livery.

I wish they would increase the bit rate on F1TV. 6000kbps should be a crime in 2023!

Won't the camera actually be obscured by the jack during pitstops? Will be cool when you see the car pulling away tho.

looks like the one of the MotoGP!

Why not 360 camera's?

I just want them to FUCKING unzoom all the cameras

why do angles come and go away ? Indycar had this angle 30 years ago

For me, I would like to watch a pov camera from the driver's helmet. Make all the drivers wear them and have onboard communication throughout the race or you can switch the audio to the TV commentary. If that was available, I probably would purchase the entire season.

I noticed that, don't assume what I didn't see

Biometrics, would be good

F1 will literally do anything other than widening the fov for more sense of speed

Logan Sargeant doesn't need it

What is he doing with that 3rd marker under the lamp between shots?

You lost the bet mate. I did notice it during the Silverstone broadcast! Now what?

What would be great for F1TV viewers, is if the Helmet Cam, Front & Back camera, face cam & pedal cams, were all live at once so we can choose which perspective to watch on each driver.

Indy cars have way better camera angles that can pan around and follow an overtake in real time

Why not use a 360ª camera on the top of the car?

Simple, use a 360 degree camera, please!

*Give us 4K cameras or nothing!*

Yeah they should give Lance a rear looking camera cuz his mirrors for sure ain't enough sometime

I just want them to stop the video game graphics putting the drivers name over the car when it says it right at the bottom of the screen. Like we are going to forget what we just saw. Its insulting.

Nascar has this tech F1 is just way behind.

Recently on board is very bad quality 🤔

This this can not be Pls fia plsss i want to see LECLERC screaming noooo

adrian newey will find a way to make this camera give redbull atleast .100 per lap 😂

No no please no 360 cameras. In indycar theyre annoying and miss so much action

Indy Car is still superior in terms of camera technology with their movable rotating camera

NASCAR has been doing this for YEARS

Noice

Cameras sponsored by Microsoft Forza Horizon and Sony Grand Turismo.

They banned cameras on rear wing after Monza 1995, it only caused the retire of the car but it could have been easily deadly for Berger

I didn't see it because i was in the stands 😅

They should change the field of view and not have it as such a wide shot with so much of the halo. The early 2000s cars looked so fast because there wasnt such a stationary object in the screen

The camera angle not being perfectly aligned with the car tilts me so much. I can't understand why in pre season they use the very nice centered camera and during the seaon the offset camera is back, it's just stupid. I don't care if that affects aerodynamics or not, F1 is a sport made for TV, so give the viewers the best posible experience FFS.

So now they are going to Copy WEC and GT3 cameras .... How Original

Wow, copied the nascar Cam angle 🙄😑🥱

Whtvr

Didn’t realise this was an Up in the Air hater channel

yawn..f1 finally catchin up with the rest of the world...