Max shocked about George's prediction for the race 🤣

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@sheldoniusRex
@sheldoniusRex 4 ай бұрын
George was right. Half a second at least.
@Jerryattrickliverspottedhands
@Jerryattrickliverspottedhands 4 ай бұрын
.5 second every second lol
@donaldfarquar
@donaldfarquar 4 ай бұрын
The problem might be that if Lewis and Alonso are having average days, then Max on his own is worth half a second over the other good drivers in the field. While it's hard to get a direct comparison, Ocon is the best bet. He was broadly in line with Perez and now Gasly when they were teammates. He was maybe 0.20 off alonso over the time they were teammates, sometimes more sometimes less but on average 0.2. Max was 0.75 faster than Gasly, is 0.6 faster than Perez (on average). The only person that was close to him was Danny Ric in his prime, while Max was a very young rookie, basically a schoolboy racing against men. On their day in a championship contender, I don't doubt Lewis and Alonso could match Max, but as they get older, those days will come less and less. At the moment, it's like tennis when Federer and Nadal got too old to consistently keep up with Djokovic. He just won everything.
@TheBajamin
@TheBajamin 4 ай бұрын
@@donaldfarquarLewis couldn’t match max in a much faster car. Him and bottas literally crashed him out 3 times (rear ending him) and Lewis would run wide on purpose to crash him. Lewis isn’t that great of a driver unless he’s in the best of the best car. He’s top midfield driver.
@kaichisendou
@kaichisendou 4 ай бұрын
​@@TheBajamin That's the worst typo of "I'm stupid" that I've ever seen. Like, how did you manage that?
@puertoricanvtec
@puertoricanvtec 4 ай бұрын
@@kaichisendou😂👏🏼👏🏼
@kmlksekhon
@kmlksekhon 4 ай бұрын
Max is always so encouraging to his fellow drivers regardless of team (sans Ocon)
@Jerryattrickliverspottedhands
@Jerryattrickliverspottedhands 4 ай бұрын
I’m willing to wager Stroll has more fans than Ocon
@KingchooRS
@KingchooRS 4 ай бұрын
I've seen more Haas fans than Ocon fans, tbh
@hydrosphere8447
@hydrosphere8447 4 ай бұрын
​@Jerryattrickliverspottedhands cause strolls actually a mice guy who gets on well with his teammates and the grid in general. He's also not as bad a driver as a lot of us like to portray him as. Aside from the whole, daddy buying him a team and multiple world champions to teach him and probably not seeming to mean as much to him as the other drivers (although we can only assume there)... aside from all that he seems like a pretty chilled guy that gets on well with those around him and he seems to be aware he's been gifted job security nobody else gets and gets more chances, less pressure. Tho I can only imagine what different sort of pressures may come from your dad being your boss and not being able to have real away time from his work, and being put next to former world champions and compared to them in recent years. He also had one of the best rookie seasons of all time statistically which always surprises me to remember! To be fair to ocon, people do say he's absolutely lovely off the track and away from the work dynamics, but beyond competitive in the car and very aggressive defensive around racing generally. Which I can kind of understand since he's one of very few on the grid who didn't come from decent wealth and family had to sacrifice enormously for him, so can only imagine the pressure to deliver and prove it worth it and pay his family back for their sacrifice. And losing his seat to lance and realising how fast it can all slip away. I can understand a bit of desperation in his behaviour to cling on. But it does make him rather unlikeable in how he treats acts with his teammates and never really ending a partnership without issues. Especially when he's had teammates that are well liked. But people do say he's one of the nicest guys to exist when he's away from the racing. Whereas lance is quite the contrast on that since he's shown very mature, respectful and collaborative relationships with teammates and its definitely helped his image that Fernando likes him a lot and Charles saying he's one of his best friends on the grid. Theyre a funny comparison since thehre so opposite in a lot of ways. People are put off lance because of his immense priviledge, but like he's a great teammate that gets on well with everyone. While ocon comes from comparatively low priviledge, which makes people respect him for working harder to make it, and that he appreciates all his family sacrificed so much (which made him come off really well in the DTS episode on his background and got him supporters or sympathisers at least). And that he lost a seat essentially because of lances priviledge helps ocons cause but hinders lances ofc. But in contrast to lance he has a terrible reputation for how he acts in the car and treats his teammates. Though people do rate his skills and how hard he works and respect how desperately he wants it compared to the sentiment lance doesn't want or appreciate his F1 shot as much as others. But then theyre both considered lovely easy going guys away from racing. It really is an interesting comparison you picked!
@kikoredog
@kikoredog 4 ай бұрын
Tldr
@rirililyriri5765
@rirililyriri5765 3 ай бұрын
​@@Jerryattrickliverspottedhandstbf stroll had moments of brilliance
@justinperry7465
@justinperry7465 4 ай бұрын
Half a second was spot on
@ares1670
@ares1670 4 ай бұрын
It was actually more like 8 tenths per lap. Embarrassing for everyone once again.
@daarom3472
@daarom3472 4 ай бұрын
25s to Sainz in 57 laps. Remove 7-8s for the time Sainz lost in traffic and fighing others and killing his tires, thats about 3 tenths per lap. Then again, Max could probably go 2-3 tenths faster.
@ares1670
@ares1670 4 ай бұрын
@@daarom3472 Yeah, I was talking about Russell.
@ehrlichgesagt863
@ehrlichgesagt863 3 ай бұрын
​@@daarom3472 tbf, max had the better Strategie with Softs at the End see Ric catching like a 6 sec gap
@Locormus2
@Locormus2 3 ай бұрын
​@@ehrlichgesagt863 Ricc and Tsunoda were exactly 10 seconds apart after their final pitstops. Ricc had to overtake Albon on the first straight (no problem) and sat behind Hulk for a lap or two before Hulk pitted again. Ricc cleared about 8 seconds to Yuki in 8 laps regardless of Albon and Hulk before he latched on. Yuki was 1 to 2 seconds behind Kmag for the same amount of laps proving no superior pace to the Haas until AFTER the swap was ordered on lap 50 where he finally got into Kmag's DRS. Because Yuki ignored orders, Max caught up to this group and this resulted in Max ironically giving Kmag a tow and DRS to catch up to Zhou.. which basically turned the group in a Zhou DRS-train for the remaining three laps. Had Yuki let Ricc pass sooner, he would've had better tyrelife to overtake Magnussen (who wouldn't have had the DRS advantage from being close to Zhou yet) - and could've potentially picked up Zhou once Max lapped him. Here's the kicker: Ricc's engineer thought Zhou was p10. So the swap was mandated on the belief that Ricc could pass Kmag and Zhou (both on old Hards) for a points finish.. But he messed up, because Zhou was p11.
@cuuulz2947
@cuuulz2947 4 ай бұрын
Max wasn't shocked about the gap, i think he was shocked about George being so blunt about it 💀🤣
@Howsmekowdendan
@Howsmekowdendan Ай бұрын
You really believe a Dutchman is shocked by a Brit being "blunt"?😂 Dude.. you have no idea.
@Yooenmi
@Yooenmi 4 ай бұрын
Half a second? Max wanted to say: "it's almost a full second".😂💪🐐
@oonmm
@oonmm 3 ай бұрын
A bull second.
@Redlingstein
@Redlingstein 3 ай бұрын
Max is so relaxed and funny in these press conf these days 😂
@setitureay1806
@setitureay1806 3 ай бұрын
Damn. "Underpromise, overdeliver" that's a good quote
@MrAdemiM
@MrAdemiM 3 ай бұрын
Might fancy changing George “fuuu that looks fast” Russell to George “underpromise, overdeliver” Russell, at least in my books
@samoverbeek4778
@samoverbeek4778 3 ай бұрын
Fun fact: This is one of Steve-o's life motto's!
@setitureay1806
@setitureay1806 3 ай бұрын
@@samoverbeek4778 Then i guess Alpines quote of the season should be: "Fail to prepare, prepare to fail" - Chris Pontius 😂
@potterpotty01
@potterpotty01 3 ай бұрын
as Scottie said, that's how you get the nickname of a miracle worker.
@linzzzanity
@linzzzanity 3 ай бұрын
Max is funny. Say what you will about his personality, his comedic timing is always on point. And George is George. Best eyelashes in F1.
@Alp577
@Alp577 3 ай бұрын
I seriously want these two to team up. Imagine the comedic gold on down time and heated exchange when racing. 😂
@warnabrotha95YT
@warnabrotha95YT 3 ай бұрын
Though he can't beat the Lord of the Eyebrows (Alonso)
@kukelhupf
@kukelhupf 3 ай бұрын
He is THE Latte drinking femboy of F1.
@c3vzn
@c3vzn 3 ай бұрын
George is actually a very normal down to earth guy. All these weird fans think he’s some rich snob. He comes from a middle class family unlike Max and Lando with their rich Daddies.
@benbos6625
@benbos6625 3 ай бұрын
@@c3vznhummmmm, perhaps now. Quite funny to have heard Jos was waiting in their small camper (bus) picking Max up from school so they could drive to race tracks abroad. Wealthy now but not the "Stroll-wealth" (or Mazepin eg). btw: it must have contribute in Jos losing his mariage while MAx didn't want to be in that school to begin with. "Rich" you said? hummmm
@user-ug7vj9py2n
@user-ug7vj9py2n 4 ай бұрын
Always under promise over deliver
@lucavendrame8373
@lucavendrame8373 Ай бұрын
“See you tomorrow” 😭😭😭
@_bvck
@_bvck 4 ай бұрын
George knows the way
@SenneMeuleman
@SenneMeuleman 3 ай бұрын
Lisan al gaib
@rainerwahnsinn9585
@rainerwahnsinn9585 3 ай бұрын
Russell really happy about only 0,5 seconds
@dbe1272
@dbe1272 3 ай бұрын
Every time I see this guy and hear him speak I have the feeling that he comes from early 20 century. He looks like a ghost of an English soldier during 1ww
@sinking1902
@sinking1902 3 ай бұрын
I got the old British gent thing too from George. Look at him sitting there legs crossed just like his grandad would sit. 😂
@lufiaysarifin55
@lufiaysarifin55 3 ай бұрын
Max: "Half a second?" 🗿
@qNOXIOUSp
@qNOXIOUSp 4 ай бұрын
.8 seconds per lap to Russell 😂
@seag1492
@seag1492 4 ай бұрын
Yes, but max would be 0.5 faster than Russell even in the same car.
@Vettel_Ronaldo
@Vettel_Ronaldo 3 ай бұрын
@@seag1492he wouldn’t 😂
@HoopsTalk123
@HoopsTalk123 3 ай бұрын
​​@@seag1492 Not really. Russell is a top 5-6 driver on the grid imo. Verstappen Lewis Alonso Leclerc Russell Norris
@omninoah6851
@omninoah6851 3 ай бұрын
​@@HoopsTalk123honestly I think albon is top 5 based on what we have seen obviously no way to know for sure without a better car
@omninoah6851
@omninoah6851 3 ай бұрын
​@@HoopsTalk123 Also sainz should be in the conversation there definitely not as good as leclerc but it is pretty close
@Khalil.8611
@Khalil.8611 3 ай бұрын
"the car was unbelievable!" 😂😂
@lindauromacedo1183
@lindauromacedo1183 3 ай бұрын
George wass right, half a second but was per sector😅
@KaiserM3
@KaiserM3 4 ай бұрын
Max just showing Russell strategies 😂.
@elliotokirie3404
@elliotokirie3404 4 ай бұрын
Almost a full second in the race lol
@baldyisthegaminggrandad6177
@baldyisthegaminggrandad6177 3 ай бұрын
Top class from Max
@williamc4309
@williamc4309 3 ай бұрын
Max Knowing all the Public Relations BS both Mercedes drivers do.. 👌
@giacomonovara
@giacomonovara 4 ай бұрын
Considering that Max did drive without any pressure most of the race, the true gap is probably more than 1 sec
@tykeboy16
@tykeboy16 3 ай бұрын
Pressure slows you down. So no, not more than 1 sec.
@edwardking9359
@edwardking9359 3 ай бұрын
​@tykeboy16 Pressure doesn't necessarily slow you down, though. If there's no pressure, he doesn't have to push anywhere near as hard, and can instead conserve fuel and tyres over the lap.
@sylpha51
@sylpha51 3 ай бұрын
Also hé said hé whas cruising to preserve the engine, so I could be more like a second when pushing
@test-tl8dt
@test-tl8dt 3 ай бұрын
@@tykeboy16 pressure doesnt slow you down what lol. pressure is the only reason to drive fast. theres absolutely zero purpose to driving fast when theres no pressure. its instantly 100% preservation mode.
@tykeboy16
@tykeboy16 3 ай бұрын
@@test-tl8dt pressure makes you drive defensively. Driving defensively slows you down. Zero pressure means you can drive the best racing line at all times. You know nothing about racing if you think pressure doesn't slow you down.
@MegaChristina1966
@MegaChristina1966 3 ай бұрын
Oohh Max ..😂 I love him ❤😂😂😂
@leonardoluc6362
@leonardoluc6362 2 ай бұрын
Agree he is loveble
@Kaido_928
@Kaido_928 2 ай бұрын
Do you dream about him..
@yuvasagar8457
@yuvasagar8457 3 ай бұрын
Bro is giving false hopes to other teams😂😅
@user-hu8wt1ph6d
@user-hu8wt1ph6d 3 ай бұрын
They would make a lovely Mercedes partnership
@ahmadmajeed6983
@ahmadmajeed6983 4 ай бұрын
+46 second lead after 57 laps... More than half a second i believe
@_aibohphobia_
@_aibohphobia_ 3 ай бұрын
It was 22 seconds? Where is this information coming from, or are we talking a pre-season testing or something?
@AugmentedGravity
@AugmentedGravity 3 ай бұрын
46??
@ahmadmajeed6983
@ahmadmajeed6983 3 ай бұрын
+46 seconds gap between Max and Russell, check the post race results will you?@@_aibohphobia_
@Magere-Kwark
@Magere-Kwark 3 ай бұрын
​@@_aibohphobia_ he had a 22 second lead to Checo, but this is about the deficit George had to him in the race.
@omninoah6851
@omninoah6851 3 ай бұрын
​@@_aibohphobia_deficit to George not perez lol
@rishabhchopra141
@rishabhchopra141 4 ай бұрын
More like a second 😂
@brunomanco7529
@brunomanco7529 2 ай бұрын
"Per turn i mean"
@GPitstra37
@GPitstra37 3 ай бұрын
... Max litterly just showed how Mercedes acts.. saying their slower than they actually are.. than saying their great when they are quicker... Didn't matter in the end
@Atticvs32
@Atticvs32 3 ай бұрын
Inb4 1s deficit in Bahrain and Jeddah...
@gealingeman8643
@gealingeman8643 4 ай бұрын
and it was 1 sec per lap on the first stint 😁
@nativigh3243
@nativigh3243 2 ай бұрын
I love these two!!!
@kevinvandorst
@kevinvandorst 2 ай бұрын
Not half a second to Red Bull, but half a second to Max, yes.
@Redlingstein
@Redlingstein 3 ай бұрын
Max’ face and reply lol
@thomasjohn32
@thomasjohn32 4 ай бұрын
He was wrong... It was more like a full second😂
@olafroeten
@olafroeten Ай бұрын
All kinds of interpretations are possible. To me, Max seems really surprised about the gap that George mentioned. And thought it was smaller. He knows his "stuff". 😉
@ananthu8534
@ananthu8534 3 ай бұрын
George learnt from Lewis' splendid oscarworthy acting during 2017 & 2018 seasons.
@janssmidt4136
@janssmidt4136 Ай бұрын
Thats in the sim George
@jeffreyvanschouwen3637
@jeffreyvanschouwen3637 4 ай бұрын
Its about 1.3 seconds a lap
@GasMasterJ
@GasMasterJ 4 ай бұрын
No
@Idk-ys7rt
@Idk-ys7rt 4 ай бұрын
More like 0.8 tenths per lap.
@Idk-ys7rt
@Idk-ys7rt 4 ай бұрын
0.8 seconds sorry.
@GasMasterJ
@GasMasterJ 4 ай бұрын
@@Idk-ys7rt yes
@rioborzeli147
@rioborzeli147 3 ай бұрын
George having fun with Max 😂
@Traxxmaciek
@Traxxmaciek 3 ай бұрын
Half a second per sector
@fplcraig647
@fplcraig647 4 ай бұрын
Max is about 2 seconds a lap faster. George is dreaming.
@Idk-ys7rt
@Idk-ys7rt 4 ай бұрын
It was about 8 tenths per lap.
@smobach
@smobach 4 ай бұрын
@@Idk-ys7rt Max was cruising with his windows open steering with one hand.
@TheBajamin
@TheBajamin 4 ай бұрын
@@Idk-ys7rtguarantee that wasn’t full out. You saw the gap in lap 10. He was in cruise mode. His soft tires went forever.
@Idk-ys7rt
@Idk-ys7rt 4 ай бұрын
@@TheBajamin I understand and agree that he wasn't pushing but still the gap was 0.8 seconds.
@SuperMonkei
@SuperMonkei 4 ай бұрын
the race pace was double that.
@pietervanderpoel5407
@pietervanderpoel5407 3 ай бұрын
Bro already knowns😂
@antiwoke884
@antiwoke884 3 ай бұрын
George always sits like he has no balls
@NaNoTech4Disaster
@NaNoTech4Disaster 3 ай бұрын
"No no It's too big" Lo and behold. Max and his +40s gap to p2.
@benpreece4074
@benpreece4074 4 ай бұрын
.786 bhind so u overpromised and under delivered. my man
@devasyaraj
@devasyaraj 3 ай бұрын
22 sec is just a little more than half a second
@ivanjovanovic362
@ivanjovanovic362 3 ай бұрын
Half a second... PER LAP!
@bratwurstmaxxehaxxe5315
@bratwurstmaxxehaxxe5315 2 ай бұрын
boy george
@johngardner529
@johngardner529 3 ай бұрын
i think he meant half a second a lap
@servevanlieshout8008
@servevanlieshout8008 3 ай бұрын
He did say 0,5 seconds per lap. Although it was closer to 1 second per lap, margin would be even bigger if he wasn't taking it easy at the end.
@dean-does-stuff-81
@dean-does-stuff-81 4 ай бұрын
Bang on…
@jamesread11
@jamesread11 3 ай бұрын
Under promise under deliver
@susannaaurelio3160
@susannaaurelio3160 3 ай бұрын
Je tiame max❤
@86niisan8686
@86niisan8686 3 ай бұрын
he was spot on.... about 20 seconds behind perez over a full race! and then you need to go get verstappen whos beating his teammate by 20 seconds!
@Jeremy-is6dy
@Jeremy-is6dy 2 ай бұрын
I hated redbull on that one, when they said they weren't sure about being first at barhein Lmao.
@iam_nick
@iam_nick 3 ай бұрын
Half a lifetime probably 😂
@israelpupak8168
@israelpupak8168 4 ай бұрын
Max put more than 1 second on the first lap to get out of DRS ...& He had Charles in Ferrari behind him...insane
@TheBajamin
@TheBajamin 4 ай бұрын
He was like 2 seconds ahead lol. Everyone saying .8 doesn’t pay attention. Max ran those softs so damn long and was still creeping ahead. He wasn’t pushing at all after lap 10.
@The_Curious_Cat
@The_Curious_Cat 3 ай бұрын
And as we see it's more than half a second. Max was just going with it for the memes but he knows the RB is far ahead and it's only the beginning, they haven't even unleashed the full power of the car yet. They don't need to. The car is so dominant even Checo finishes second after his usual crappy qualifyings and initial race starts.
@janikdo4560
@janikdo4560 3 ай бұрын
And it is second at least 😵‍💫
@dsmann1648
@dsmann1648 3 ай бұрын
even max calls out georges bullshit comments
@ZJL-.
@ZJL-. 3 ай бұрын
40 second ahead
@hansvanbrandwijk2803
@hansvanbrandwijk2803 2 ай бұрын
Mrs Russel
@davemieze9021
@davemieze9021 3 ай бұрын
I have an idea of doing the F1 round table. The big 4. We ask race related questions about the others significant skills, bring up epic battles. Talk to them about what is was like being at Abu Dhabi witnessing “the robbery” asking Lewis how absolutely frustrated he must be since then. And all this goes on at a round table. And we can hear their tone of voice, and the way they respond to certain things. All in a relaxed environment where they can speak their mind. If Toto doesn’t pick up Sainz 55 he’s absolutely bonkers.
@fastone371
@fastone371 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, lets hear what the other drivers think about the 21 Silverstone "incident".
@blue-tb6uv
@blue-tb6uv 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 your race pace setup has not changed for the 3rd year
@Rico-zd9nc
@Rico-zd9nc 4 ай бұрын
How Many second now 😂
@Rejoice335i
@Rejoice335i 3 ай бұрын
Deficit..😆😆🤭✌️
@cpc5637
@cpc5637 3 ай бұрын
Only to Max's Redbull
@rowanbroekman3929
@rowanbroekman3929 4 ай бұрын
I believe George, can you imagine how bad both Mercedes drivers are?!
@connorkiser8849
@connorkiser8849 3 ай бұрын
I'm late but I want to comment anyways. Only half a second for a millisecond until max was gone 💀
@Syphen__
@Syphen__ 4 ай бұрын
20 seconds
@Sealshark007
@Sealshark007 3 ай бұрын
If this was a game some would say unbalanced
@abhi1014
@abhi1014 3 ай бұрын
Why is george looking like cilian murphy ??
@therealturbofanisme
@therealturbofanisme 3 ай бұрын
I love that George actually makes guesses on stuff like this. Makes it more fun.
@mikolajfijalkowski265
@mikolajfijalkowski265 4 ай бұрын
yeeeeah...
@gowthams4876
@gowthams4876 3 ай бұрын
I mean george was right about the 0.5, the only thing is its .5 per lap 😅
@edwardking9359
@edwardking9359 3 ай бұрын
that's what he was saying, though!
@c3vzn
@c3vzn 3 ай бұрын
It’s always per lap smh. Why would he say 0.5 second over a race distance? That’s be the most unbelievable finish of all time.
@tim9783
@tim9783 4 ай бұрын
It wasn't too big
@nicklewe1266
@nicklewe1266 4 ай бұрын
it was pretty much 8 tenths on average between max and george
@TheBajamin
@TheBajamin 4 ай бұрын
It’s way more than that. Max had soft tires going way longer. He wasn’t pushing at all. After lap 10 he just went into cruise mode.
@Sonicsion
@Sonicsion 4 ай бұрын
​@@TheBajamin It probably is more than that, but those are the numbers we have right now. Anything else is just speculation. So we do work with speculative numbers? Or work with the information we have now?
@piekop4148
@piekop4148 3 ай бұрын
Who is that girl next to max?
@juggernaut316
@juggernaut316 4 ай бұрын
Max was 1 to 2 seconds faster per lap
@likilikiki
@likilikiki 3 ай бұрын
Seriously don't understand how or why some dudes sit like George is sitting. I've tried it and it's not comfortable. I couldn't even hold it for 15 seconds.
@brigittemuller5047
@brigittemuller5047 3 ай бұрын
😄😄💥💥💥🥰🥰
@jps8678
@jps8678 3 ай бұрын
I feel F1 drivers are in these days soft ladylike. And those racers are so so boring in these days
@iwirt6347
@iwirt6347 4 ай бұрын
Honda over mercedes engine ....
@caterinavega4228
@caterinavega4228 3 ай бұрын
max "unbelievable!" Verstappen.
@dhruvjain8305
@dhruvjain8305 3 ай бұрын
He mean't half a lap but alright
@SurviveTheDay
@SurviveTheDay 2 ай бұрын
😂
@timepiece_enthusiast
@timepiece_enthusiast 3 ай бұрын
AAAANNNNDDD it was worse… 😂
@rocket3man
@rocket3man 3 ай бұрын
racing drivers are never good at communicating
@L3wos85
@L3wos85 2 ай бұрын
Max fan page I see 😴
@SB-jc7wz
@SB-jc7wz 2 ай бұрын
So criminal. how merc makes em this young. high payed liars. lol See you tommorow...sure.
@drybonesmalone6974
@drybonesmalone6974 3 ай бұрын
hes such a lady
@markr4189
@markr4189 3 ай бұрын
What a bell end
@kkapalle
@kkapalle 3 ай бұрын
These Verstappen Dad and Sun are so arrogant, I only can hope that Mercedes will not take Verstappen as replacement for Hamilton is a humble smart guy, Verstappen is arrogant and troublemaker let him sell camping trailer with his dad
@simonlavelle5572
@simonlavelle5572 4 ай бұрын
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