This is a Google Earth journey of the route the Manson family killers took the night five people were killed at the Tate residence.
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@simulatedbass5 жыл бұрын
Im really impressed with your knowledge of the area. This is the most thorough explanation I've seen.
@forresthaggertychannel43015 жыл бұрын
simulatedbass I’m happy you enjoyed it!
@crmay723 жыл бұрын
Me too! Forrest Haggerty, are you from LA?
@G3n10s1TY3 жыл бұрын
@@crmay72 yes he said he was born in it in another video... Btw me too😂
@the1.873 жыл бұрын
It’s called having too much time
@lisalaunspach8714 жыл бұрын
Always had an image in my head of what these places looked like from reading the books and seeing crime scene photos, but its fascinating to see it all come together like this. thank you
@forresthaggertychannel43014 жыл бұрын
Lisa Launspach you’re welcome! Thank you for commenting.
@WindTurbineSyndrome2 жыл бұрын
Spahn ranch is now a state park area.
@BassGirlSusan19616 жыл бұрын
The horror those people went through, you can't imagine it even in your worst nightmare
@forresthaggertychannel43016 жыл бұрын
BassGirlSusan I agree, especially for Sharon who had to wait and listen while all the others were killed before her.
@BassGirlSusan19616 жыл бұрын
I believe she was restrained by a rope and had no means of escape. No wonder people have never forgotten after almost 50 years
@xLiLtEmPeR6 жыл бұрын
Manson was in the desert minding his business. You just a snowflake. Get a job and u won't be mad at the world
@a916LEX6 жыл бұрын
S.S .A you had to think of the times this was the 60's people were not worried about such crimes happening especially in such a secluded place. The Manson murder are often considered the one event which put a definitive end to the 60's.
@kimberlybrownmy55 жыл бұрын
@@a916LEX so very true. There were so many actors, actresses people in different aspects of the business that lived all over the place Beverly Hills. As well as other places. In the 1960s even though I was a child I know that it was a different time and the era and nobody or almost nobody had security the way they have it today.
@michaelrichards79875 жыл бұрын
Anyone here after watching once upon a time in Hollywood
@susanhuffstutler95765 жыл бұрын
Super film. I loved it (also lived through the true murders)......Great final scene, cathartic.
@rhettdilley5 жыл бұрын
Michael Stephan yo
@daveconlin83425 жыл бұрын
Cliff hauled ass down that driveway with the tunes blasting!!!!!
@CorkyStanton5 жыл бұрын
нαςκεямαη You’re shallow. Best movie ever. Beautiful happy ending.
@johnwillis39245 жыл бұрын
It was his worst film ..the storyline sucks in the movie ..if saw the trailer you have already seen the movie
@chrismcevoy25036 жыл бұрын
Rest In Peace Sharon Marie Tate. (1943-1969)
@Nicoletta135 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. Sharon( Baby Paul Richard) Jay, Gibby ,Voytek and Steve Parent.. you are NEVER forgotten!
@shiva09555 жыл бұрын
😢💔😢
@ApartmentKing665 жыл бұрын
@THESATURNSSC1 You mean Mr. and Mrs. LaBianca?
@jarleypiotrtchaikovsky5 жыл бұрын
hahahaha it happened long long time ago and you say Rest in peace, hahah fool
@sandranorman54695 жыл бұрын
And Abigail Folger
@momsnoteatingbugs19196 жыл бұрын
Wow, the French farmhouse of the original house fit so much more nicely in the canyon. The new one is a monstrosity.
@eratoisyourmuse6595 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Jeff Franklin is a tasteless asshole.
@DexterHaven5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the old ranch house was much more homey. But after those murders, its days were numbered, I guess. Too many bad memories to sleep by.
@DexterHaven5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, coincidental that he produced "Full House" and then built an over-stuffed one.
@dougaschenbrenner8025 жыл бұрын
Maybe one day someone with enough wherewithal will buy that property, demolish the mansion, and reconstruct the original house. Bet the neighbors would love that.
@DexterHaven5 жыл бұрын
Now that is a killer-idea! Give that man a cigar. @@dougaschenbrenner802
@nicolabrooke6745 жыл бұрын
Its so sad sharons son paul would of been 50 now😞 may they rest in peace together X
@peggysullivan53964 жыл бұрын
Nicola Brooke Paul?
@alysonwinchester29064 жыл бұрын
@@peggysullivan5396 unborn paul richard polanski
@s7s7Joy4 жыл бұрын
He was 8 months so he WAS a life sniffed out by those demons. They say that it was 7 murder victims throughout the 2 days of the Tate-LaBianca murders. They NEVER mention the EIGHTH VICTIM of those horrors, the unborn baby Tate was carrying. Sad because at 8 months; he was living EVEN in her womb. SMDH this world.
@renatawarec4 жыл бұрын
@@peggysullivan5396 you didn't know that???
@michaelcastro67314 жыл бұрын
@@s7s7Joy I hope and pray that they never let the killers out, especially that psycho Tex Watson who I understand carried out most of the murders.
@fijistarproductions9904 жыл бұрын
2:45 I recognized that sharp turn straight from Once Upon a time in Hollywood. That’s totally where they filmed it!
@juliane.w4 жыл бұрын
it is!
@willdevine83174 жыл бұрын
Definitely the same turn.
@DAVIDSanchez-si4nz4 жыл бұрын
Will Devine is it but just saying i live by there and there are a lot of sharp turns like this
@fijistarproductions9904 жыл бұрын
DAVID Sanchez it’s got the houses, the traffic lights, the stop sign on the road it all lines up
@DAVIDSanchez-si4nz4 жыл бұрын
FijiStar Productions obviously i’m just saying that cuz i live on bella dr
@kimberlybrownmy55 жыл бұрын
OMG, I just asked you a bunch of questions on another video you did about Charles Manson and the others who did the Tate and labianca murders. I asked you about Cielo Drive off of Benedict Canyon Drive. You answered my questions on this one. By the way you did a great job using the Google Earth and explaining everything. I thought they came from the valley. That's why I thought they made a right on Cielo Drive. But it would be a left coming where they were from. This just gave me chills. I told you I was a child time when this all happened. I happened to live on the corner of Benedict Canyon Drive and Portola Drive where you told the rest of the story. I lived at 2200 Benedict Canyon Drive just right on the corner of Portola and Benedict Canyon Drive. Wow, how close to home was that? Again you did a really good job of explaining everything. I lived at that house till I was 17 years old. Like I said I just heard about it at the time. It was too much to process in a child's head. I know I sound like I'm jumping from one thing to another which I am. Today's the first time I actually heard the most I've ever known about it. Never saw anything on any movie are any book on this subject. I actually accidentally stumbled upon your KZfaq channel looking at something else. Well enough of my boring story. Thank you so much for putting the facts into place for me. No drama just what I would want to see. You are pretty amazing at doing what you do in such a short amount of time. I wish I could give the same. I'm all over the place. Please forgive my grammar everyone I will see things Google speech to text.
@Clare-tea4 жыл бұрын
I like the old house better.
@forresthaggertychannel43014 жыл бұрын
Claretea so do I.
@jereandco5 жыл бұрын
There were a lot of miles & minutes in between the ranch and the Tate home. Many, many minutes that someone could've said "WTH are we about to do? Let's NOT do this" Sad that none of them were human enough to stop the bloodshed.
@forresthaggertychannel43015 жыл бұрын
jerelyn scott very true. They were also very high on meth and other drugs.
@jereandco5 жыл бұрын
@@forresthaggertychannel4301 this is true, and yet another reason why hard core illicit drugs are illegal.
@DexterHaven5 жыл бұрын
They were brainwashed by Charlie into thinking they were doing capitalist pigs a favor by killing them. Charlie justified it in part with the Beatles song "Piggies" -- "in their starched white shirts [the rich] what they needs a darn good whacking." Harrison felt so bad about the use of his lyric that he refused to allow Bugliosi to quote it in his book. Susan Atkins told her fellow jail inmate that it took a "lot of love" to kill Tate. That's how a killer rationalizes something evil. That inmate told the DA and it blew open the case.
@jereandco5 жыл бұрын
@@DexterHaven "Capitalist pigs"? Isn't it just a little ironic that the victims were "Capitalist pigs" because they made it in Hollywood..something that Charlie wanted soooo bad that he was willing to kill innocent people (that had NOTHING to do with him being a scumbag and not being able to sing a lick). I guess he REALLY wanted to be a "Capitalist Pig", huh?!
@DexterHaven5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, good point. ENVY of the successful. That leads to rage, violence, death, mass killings. It plays out before out eyes over and over in Venezuela, Cuba, and Soviet Union. But the media ignores it, since they are envious too or are guilty-rich liberals, scared of bums. @@jereandco
@daveallman39815 жыл бұрын
The guy whose house they stopped at to rinse off the blood turned out to be an important witness because he wrote down and then memorized the license plates to the car. See the book Helter Skelter.
@jerryl98234 жыл бұрын
A book came out last year titled Chaos on this whole 60,s saga.
@MeeMee-gz5vp3 жыл бұрын
@1StarProductions glad I’m not the only one who sees Chaos book as just another BS narrative on the case
@kyledavis6352 жыл бұрын
I'm really surprised that guy didn't connect the dots and think that they were involved in the murders after surely hearing about them the next day.... I don't recall that he contacted police soon after?
@kyledavis635 Жыл бұрын
@@MeeMee-gz5vp Yeah, Chaos and the writer Tom O'Neill are pure garbage...
@michaelproctor81005 жыл бұрын
Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris became friends with Sharon while they worked on her last movie The Wrecking Crew. How sweet would it have been to have those 2 martial arts legends be there to greet the Manson punks as they broke into the residence?
@erinlorca12405 жыл бұрын
Tex had a gun. Two more corpses would have been added to the list.
@sylvaindansereau21205 жыл бұрын
The thing is that watson had a gun
@chadhumphries14455 жыл бұрын
More dead bodies
@kurtvonfricken68295 жыл бұрын
An amateur ( abet high on drugs)with a gun against a karate world champion with a warrior mindset? I'd say the odds would be more than even. The gun was only a 22 and I think he only had 2 bullets left.
@kurtvonfricken68295 жыл бұрын
Nope it held 9 rounds! So it would have 3? Rounds left
@Pmccaff20094 жыл бұрын
Guy who demolished the house is a fool, would have been worth alot more as it was than how it is now - doesn’t matter what features he adds. History is worth more
@hottotty132 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the even older Hollywood history of the house. Michele Morgan had the house built and it fit the style of those hills way better than the monstrosity that’s there now.
@Bloomcycle2 жыл бұрын
Explain that to Sharon's mother
@WindTurbineSyndrome2 жыл бұрын
Some people hated association of Tate murders wanted it gone. That property has million dollar views. La is famous for destroying old properties land putting up huge houses. There is almost no sense of historical lineage of properties there.
@Jasoneiland89 Жыл бұрын
Would have been an insane air b n b lol.
@WhoDeyWorld Жыл бұрын
Trent Reznor is the one who sold it last 😒 🤔
@jazzyts14 жыл бұрын
This one really means something to me. As a kid and being related to Abigail Folger, I still remember the shock and horror witnessed in my family over this. It really makes it more real for me.
@forresthaggertychannel43014 жыл бұрын
Michael Metzger how are you related to her?
@ghost_badger7537 Жыл бұрын
@@forresthaggertychannel4301 probably a cousin
@paulvoorhies8821 Жыл бұрын
Riiiiight. Everyone wants a piece of this case. Pathetic.
@MJLeger-yj1ww5 жыл бұрын
I remember this like it was yesterday, I was sitting on the end of my bed watching it on TV, shocked and horrified to know that anyone could be so terribly cruel as those murderers were. Well, Manson is dead now, thank goodness, and we hope the others are NEVER allowed out on patrol, doesn't matter how long it is. How anyone could stab beautiful Sharon in her pregnant belly like that still astounds me. I will NEVER understand how someone could do that, evil or not. And the others who died that night also, just horrible that those innocent lives were taken from them. (No sympathy at all for those killers, never will have.)
@nancymarkiewick35574 жыл бұрын
I don't think they'll make parole. Great. But they want sympathy.
@lotstodo2 жыл бұрын
Tex Watson is a Christian now, I don't buy it. Makes me sick that he got to have children. He must never be let out.
@mynameisvna6 жыл бұрын
Very informative! I really enjoy your videos.
@forresthaggertychannel43016 жыл бұрын
Vianey Frias I’m happy you enjoyed it! I used Google Earth to research places I wanted to go when I realized I could use Google Earth to make the video.
@lightshow66386 жыл бұрын
Vianey Frias I
@rickloera94685 жыл бұрын
I also heard that they stopped at a Mobil station on Beverly Glen and Ventura Blvd to finish cleaning up before returning to Spann Ranch. Coincidentally, that is the same gas station that was where James Dean was last photographed on Sept 30, 1955.
@zemery5 жыл бұрын
i thought James Dean was last photographed in the gas station up north right before he died
@LauRa-re9un5 жыл бұрын
It is strange that they cleaned themselves before going to the ranch if they could clean there
@deanpd34025 жыл бұрын
Cowinkydinks...The La Bianca murders occurred in the former home of Walt Disney, 3301 Waverly Drive. Leno bought the property in 1940 They were murdered the day after the Haunted Mansion opened in Disneyland. 9 August 1969.
@jeffnelson29305 жыл бұрын
Actually, it was the next night after the LaBianca murders where they stopped at the gas station. That is where Rosemary LaBianacas wallet was put in the toilet tank where Charlie wanted a black person to find it being it is a predominately black neighborhood, in hopes they would use the credit cards and be blamed thus helping his nonsense theory of Helter Skelter.
@siskokidd5 жыл бұрын
@@deanpd3402 This isn't true at all, as much as I would like it to be. Disney built and lived in the house at 4052 Woking Way. That is the home later bought by Leno LaBianca, who sold and moved out of it three months before the Manson murders at 3301 Waverly, which had been LaBianca's parent's former home. The two homes are nearly a mile distant.
@binkysphinx5 жыл бұрын
What a great video. 'Helter Skelter' was the first non-fiction true-crime book I ever read, way back when I was 9 years-old. This Google map guided tour taken by the killers that evening provides a fascinating layer of context to the incident that you simply don't ever see in any coverage of this case. I see you have other similar videos... Looking forward to them!
@jbro89345 жыл бұрын
You read Helter Skelter at NINE years old?? Wow! I was watching The Flintstones.
@pinkorchid6 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Thank you so much forest for taking the time to map all this out for us enthusiasts . This is fascinating!
@regmunday83545 жыл бұрын
enthusiasts ???
@kilroy25175 жыл бұрын
@@regmunday8354 was thinking the same thing. a poor and thoughtless choice of words.
@tkeforever48095 жыл бұрын
I’ve been fascinated with this case since growing up in the ‘60’s in Sylmar (Not far from the Roxford St Chevron where Rosemary LaBianca’s wallet was put inside a toilet) and hiked in the Chatsworth hills above the train tunnel, seeing people riding rental horses from Spahn Ranch. In ‘76, after reading ‘Helter Skelter” by Vince Bugliosi, I took my girlfriend and two friends in my just-bought ‘68 Mustang to the Cielo house late one Sunday night. After wandering up and down Benedict Canyon, I pulled over and a Jaguar pulled up beside me, rolled his window down and asked, “You looking for ‘The Place’?” Embarrassed, I admitted, “Yes” to which he exasperatedly replied, “Follow me!” And led us to the gate. An absolutely surreal night. I unfortunately share Manson’s birthday too.....November 12th!
@michaelbruns449 Жыл бұрын
Wow.
@pdbordelon5 жыл бұрын
Fascinating...I never knew about the incident with the home owner on Potelo drive or any of the other details after the murders.
@indy_go_blue60485 жыл бұрын
Re the guy who came out of his house while they were washing the blood off. It's incredible that they didn't kill him as well. Whew, talk about having an angel on your shoulder!
@forresthaggertychannel43015 жыл бұрын
indy_go_blue60 Tex Watson said that he didn’t shoot the guy because that was not in Manson’s plans for that night.
@chandlerwhite83025 жыл бұрын
indy_go_blue60 It’s pretty stunning, really.
@jeffnelson29305 жыл бұрын
Ummmm guys...you need to learn the story....kill the guy that came out of the house? you say? With what? Watson had already thrown the broken gun out of the window of the car and one of the knives the killers lost at the murder scene. They wanted to go back and get it but Tex overruled the girls. No weapons to kill with at the time.
@JacoWium5 жыл бұрын
@@jeffnelson2930, they discarded their clothes and Tex threw the gun out of the car later, not before.
@kurtvonfricken68295 жыл бұрын
Jaco Wium AFAIK all the bullets had been fired. Did he carry extra ammo? Had he reloaded?
@Bbarfo5 жыл бұрын
Excellent production, Forrest. I read Helter Skelter when I was 16 (1976). In 1977 Vincent Bugliosi came to a college in my hometown (Tacoma, Wa) and spoke. I attended and was able to get his autograph afterwards. In 1980 while serving in the Air Force in California I had an opportunity to drive up to the gate of 10050 Cielo Dr. In 1984 I went to work for the California Dept of Corrections and ended up have a brief conversation with Charles Manson in 1996 while he was housed at Corcoran PHU. My next trip to L.A. I will have to drive out to Spann Ranch.
@pedrodelacabra18555 жыл бұрын
Cool. Not much to see at Spahn these days though!
@wahiawamang66225 жыл бұрын
That’s some research. If you aren’t a detective, you are in the wrong line of work! Great job!
@m.oriley82605 жыл бұрын
What a ghastly mansion that has replaced the old house. It should have never been demolished.
@leeanne46385 жыл бұрын
And never been allowed to ruin the homes original beauty,or address
@bonnieirvin57935 жыл бұрын
Who would have wanted to move into the original house?
@justinclayton51495 жыл бұрын
@@bonnieirvin5793 Trent Reznor
@Zeke13795 жыл бұрын
@@justinclayton5149 yea that idiot who pretended like he didnt know it was the murder house even though he took the door that had pig written on it as a souvenir and called the studio in it le pig or some horseshit like that. He's up his own arse.
@BCS11055 жыл бұрын
M.O'Riley I think it was right that it was demolished. Could you imagine living in that house with everything the same as it was back in 1969? Same Carpet and everything? It’d be fucking horrible. No matter how much that place was cleaned, just knowing what happened in that house would be utterly horrific to think about daily.
@ProfessorChad5 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: before going back to Chatsworth they refilled at the same gas station at which James Dean took his last photo, on the corner of Ventura and Beverly Glen.
@lynncraig61515 жыл бұрын
Remind me to never stop at that station for a candy bar.😬
@MariusHelleMC5 жыл бұрын
@@lynncraig6151 well that shouldn't be necessary, cause that station is torn down :P
@lynncraig61515 жыл бұрын
@@MariusHelleMC Well...Did you hear the story the famous actor ,Alex Guinness told about James Dean? He and his friends ate a meal with Dean at a restaurant where Dean showed his new car to him . It had a bouquet of red roses tied to it. Alex said something odd came over him and he asked Dean if he had been in it yet. Dean said no. Alex warned him as he was looking down at his watch ....It is now 10 :00 pm Thursday.....If you get in that car ...sit in it...you will be dead by next Thursday at 10:00 pm. Dean laughed it off .By the next Thursday at 2:00 pm.....he was dead. Alex thought he was a gifted young man and said he had wished he could of had the chance to get to know him.
@paulconnah9865 жыл бұрын
@@lynncraig6151 Alec Guinness
@chadhumphries14455 жыл бұрын
Chad that was the next night after the Labianca murders
@susanknight25595 жыл бұрын
I have been fascinated by the Tate/LaBianca murders since 1974 when I read Helter Skelter. Over the years I’ve revisited and read what I could. I thought I knew quite a bit until OUATIH came out, and there is a resurgence both in my interest and details about this story. I am amazed at how much I didn’t know, including information contained in this video. Thanks for uploading.
@fizzao13425 жыл бұрын
Susan Knight Me too. I remember the Cielo Drive murders making headlines when I was eleven. It scared me to death and I live in the U.K. I can’t bear to think of the terror they and the La Biancas must have felt.
@susanknight25595 жыл бұрын
Fizza O Yes! Horrific. When I say I am fascinated, it is not in a sensational way. It is more the study of humanity; how people could be pushed mentally to perform such heinous acts.
@BushyHairedStranger Жыл бұрын
Few know that Manson and 2 others drove back up to Tate house early August 9th before sunrise. Possibly to retrieve items left there, clean up any direct mistakes, they also moved bodies around, shifted several pieces of furniture..
@ahill46424 жыл бұрын
Quite the long trip for the freaks to get to their destination. How truly terrifying it must have been for everyone in that house. So sad.
@mango89185 жыл бұрын
An excellent accounting of the crime scene locations and their relationships to one another! Thank you!!!
@LauRa-re9un5 жыл бұрын
The choosing of the place was premeditated. And it calls my attention how they followed orders because they didn´t kill the man of the house where they cleaned the blood.
@MDJ-wb1pn5 жыл бұрын
Might just be the best-described video of a historical factual story I have ever watched. Great job on this video.
@kurtvonfricken68295 жыл бұрын
walter white It's easy for charismatic people to brainwash weak-willed people. No supernatural powers needed. Your theory is totally invalid.
@lynncraig61515 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine wanting to buy that land .I know they ripped the house out but ...still the energy there...has got to be bad.
@lynncraig61515 жыл бұрын
@@billthompson6442 I agree....But I didn't think of it as "cursed". Just from my own experience and watching what has happened to neighbors over the years....I think people have more energy or energy that lingers after they are gone then people realize. When people shop for a home ...they sometimes are drawn to one not understanding quite why they like it or are uncomfortable being in it and want to leave . They can't put their finger on why ....just that it doesn't feel right. The home I bought ...I loved the garden but as soon as I walked in the front door....I felt I belonged there....even though something felt very sad . I didn't know at the time that ...4 different previous owners had all been painters. I'm a painter. I locked myself out the first week I lived there and didn't know what I was going to do for a minute . Then I had a thought that I followed up on...I walked around to the side of the house , near a vent pipe and started digging with a shovel from the shed. About 6 inches down I hit a lid. It was an old rusty jar with a key in it. It opened the front door. There had been no sign something was buried there.....I just had a feeling that was strong to go there. That key could have been buried in a lot of places around the cottage but I stopped there. You may call it intuition whatever ...I call it energy and intuition. The neighbors said months later they thought I was the previous owner's daughter because I looked like her and dressed like her .She died on the property , alone crying for help and no one came to help her. The neighbors said they heard her but assumed someone came to her aid. She was found deceased in the backyard by a relative visiting. There are many times I can recall of the same type of people drawn to the same house and moving in...... It's not the house... The World is full of distractions and the Human spirit is trying to filter those distractions , sometimes overloading or bombarding the senses or their instincts . The results can be good or bad. It seems like energy to me. Not everything has to be seen to know it exists. We know that.....some know it....feel it more than others and react accordingly .....just my thoughts on it.
@thereseember28005 жыл бұрын
lynn craig: What a sacred story about intuitively finding the house key! Cool story. I’m so sorry the previous owner’s cries went unheard. The poor thing.
@TJamesBell5 жыл бұрын
There's some bad juju up there. www.travelchannel.com/shows/ghost-adventures/episodes/sharon-tate-ghost
@josephkearny58745 жыл бұрын
The owner of the film move his family into the home at 1500 Cielo Drive in December of 1969 because no one wanted to rent it! He also sent Polanski the bill for the cleaning of the rug upon which his unborn child and wife were butchered!
@josephkearny58745 жыл бұрын
The owner of the home, not film! Sorry!
@BIGTODD2504 жыл бұрын
Wow. Absolutely amazing the time and detail you put into this. It is so appreciated. Thank you sincerely.
@marybailey-gates31165 жыл бұрын
My distant cousin Abigail Folger was murdered along with Sharon Tate as well.
@forresthaggertychannel43015 жыл бұрын
Mary Bailey-Gates I’m sorry to hear that. How are you related to her?
@marybailey-gates31165 жыл бұрын
@@forresthaggertychannel4301 Thank you.I am related to Abigail through the geneology of my father.My dad's brother,my uncle is our family geneologist and was doing some research on the Bailey side of our family and found that Benjiman Franklin's mothers maiden name was Folger.Her full name being Abia Folger Franklin.So Abias niece Susan Folger married into the Bailey side of our family.So my uncle wondering if any of the Folgers were still alive was sadly led to the story of Abigail's tragic death.So long story short we never got to meet her.
@BCS11055 жыл бұрын
Mary Bailey-Gates That’s insane. What a story. I couldn’t imagine the shock when you found and your family found out!
@relicreapers5714 жыл бұрын
I heard that her father put a bounty out on Manson (not my words) but of course he was too well protected in prison.
@lisalaunspach8714 жыл бұрын
@@relicreapers571 I think that was Sharons dad but I may be wrong
@buddyrupp62355 жыл бұрын
RIP, everyone of you. Excellent presentation Bud. Today is Aug. 8! Chills.
@rickkinki46243 жыл бұрын
Great video !This subject has fascinated me for more than 50 years. I was 14 when the killings happened. A couple of years later, my mother and I drove up to Cielo drive and found the gate blocking the driveway leading up to the murder house. What we saw was the same as a photo in Vincent Bugliosi's book Helter Skelter.
@MrWolverinewarrior5 жыл бұрын
Very detailed and planned out video. You did your research. Well done.
@1santos15 жыл бұрын
I was at the house on August 8, 1993 for the 24 Anniversary. I happened to be with Skrew and Chemlab when they were on tour and they had a show in Hollywood. Trent Reznor and Flood had invited both bands back to their place and gave us the grand tour using the "Helter Skelter" book as a guide. It was FREAKY.
@forresthaggertychannel43015 жыл бұрын
1santos1 did you happen to take any pictures?
@1santos15 жыл бұрын
@@forresthaggertychannel4301 I was instructed NOT to take my camera inside the house....besides, a week later, my camera and all my film (developed and undeveloped) was stolen out of my car. They also stole my sunglasses and chewing gum!
@forresthaggertychannel43015 жыл бұрын
1santos1 how much time did you spend in the house?
@1santos15 жыл бұрын
@@forresthaggertychannel4301 Just a couple of hours. We probably left about 4:00-5:00 am. He had one of John Lennon's harpsichords in his basement. I made sure that I touched EVERY key!
@forresthaggertychannel43015 жыл бұрын
1santos1 I didn’t know the house had a basement. Where was it?
@frankgrimes35595 жыл бұрын
FASCINATING STUFF! . . . Thanks for mapping it out with such detail.
@christyt42492 жыл бұрын
For so long I had it in my mind that it was an isolated estate up in the Hollywood hills. It wasn’t until the last few years that I realized just how close the neighbors actually were. That is very fascinating. If only one of the victims could have gotten to one of the other houses. Or if Linda would have done the right thing and gone for help. But these scenarios likely could have led to more victims. Sadly there are just too many what if’s with this horrendous case.
@garyleesimon2358 Жыл бұрын
Seeing these actual locations where the murders threw the clothes and gun and the way every location looks is just the way I pictured in my head reading the novel ''Helter Skelter'' and seeing the 1976 film, amazing how small the Tate residence looked and how close the neighbors were its surprising with all the screaming and gunshots echoing through the quiet canyon that no one came to help or called the police! Such a horrible crime, may all the victims rest in peace!
@surfshack24 жыл бұрын
I read The Beach Boy's Mike Love's book and in it he says that Dennis Wilson picked up the girls hitchhiking one night and let them hang out at his place to have sex. They never left. After awhile the girls brought Charlie around and he befriended Dennis. Dennis was a whacked out mess at this point. Dennis introduced him to Terry Melcher and they talked about recording some of Charlie's songs he'd written. When Terry realized that the whole idea was whacked and Charlie was a nutcase, Charlie was threatening Terry and Dennis. Dennis just vacated his house and didn't pay the rent. Eventually the landlord threw Charlie and the girls out. According to Mike Love, he and Bruce Johnson were actually invited over one night to meet Charlie over dinner. Charlie tried to use the girls to seduce Mike and Bruce into an orgy. Mike said he could tell right away Charlie was a con-man and a whacko , so he and Bruce were kinda freaked out by the whole thing and just split. This was like a year before the Tate murders i think
@i_72744 жыл бұрын
They made their choice , now they have to live with it. No amount of time will fill the catastrophic hole they created. They don’t deserve anything good to happen to them.!
@MrParkerman64 жыл бұрын
They just killed Rapist assholes, NEITHER side was good!!!!
@thereseember28005 жыл бұрын
Both Manson and Terry Melcher died on November 19th...13 years apart.
@rainblaze.5 жыл бұрын
Therese Ember do da do doo do da do doo..... that was the twilight zone theme by the way... just thought I'd mention that, what with the copywrite laws being what they are an all
@coyotefever1055 жыл бұрын
That’s strange indeed.
@thereseember28005 жыл бұрын
T-Birdus Thoracis: It is strange.
@thereseember28005 жыл бұрын
Rainblaze: Manson’s birthday is the same day as Anne Hathaway & Princess Grace of Monaco: November 12. Manson was a Scorpio.
@jbs92315 жыл бұрын
Better than they both didn't die on Friday 13th.
@sandranorman54695 жыл бұрын
I remember reading “Helter Skelter” when it came out in paperback. Scared me to death. Especially when I found out that Manson was born in my hometown. He got married and fathered a son. I understand that they have changed their names.
@EmpressElizabeth19205 жыл бұрын
I read it as a child. The part I found scary was one of them mentioning they would go through people's homes while everyone was asleep. Moving things around with knives in their mouths. Imagine what would have happened if someone had woke up.
@lisalaunspach8714 жыл бұрын
He had at least 3 sons. Charles Luther Manson, Charles Manson jr and Michael Brunner
@Stevo_Drums5 жыл бұрын
This is another crime scene that fascinates me. Helter Skelter is a great book! I actually had a brief encounter with Vincent Bugliosi in late 1999 or early 2000 in S. Pasadena. He walked into the small packing/shipping business where I worked at the time, saying he wanted to ship a pair of eyeglasses to somebody.
@allenpeck82395 жыл бұрын
Did you speak to him? Tell him how much we all loved his book?
@allenpeck82395 жыл бұрын
@Spermwhale1000 No Homer, not Charlie, although that would've been nice, he was talking about Vincent the Bug.
@MaVeRiCk774 жыл бұрын
That guy was a piece of shit. Using the murders for his own notoriety & giving Kaspian immunity when she was clearly, clearly an accessory to murder on both nights. If you watch the Larry King interview from 09' you'll see him answering Linda's questions for her as he's fucking petrified as to what she might say.
@shatnershairpiece4 жыл бұрын
What’s freaky is that I hung out with the ex girlfriend of Jay Sebring (she lived with him before he met Tate) in 1987 and she was also a prime suspect in the murder trial. She was at the Tate funeral and I also identified her from the video of the funeral. She was with Richard Sylbert (they were both friends with Polanski) when I met her while they made a movie in Vancouver. I worked a video store across from their hotel and she would come in and rent movies. I ended up going to see films with her and she also introduced me to Jill St. John who was also filming a movie in town. I was so oblivious I didn’t even know Sylbert’s credentials in Hollywood. I made them sushi at their hotel, discussed cinema techniques of Scorsese, and she took photos of me on their balcony, saying I should get in the movie business. I had no clue about any of this ‘Manson connection’ at the time and only found out this week after she posted details about her connection to Sebring on Facebook.
@andyz39254 жыл бұрын
Quite some commentary, location accuracy from birds eye view and Hollywood history knowledge. Thanks for the info. Curious if you've done this for other infamous murders? If so ever considered doing one on the Cunanan chain of murders that ended with Gianni Versace?
@shannond21294 жыл бұрын
Ugh, makes me kinda sad they tore the house down to build... that monstrosity. I get people like a good mansion but 🤢 I hate that style
@kennethleebenjamin73605 жыл бұрын
Thanks ,very interesting ,I always wanted to see the area. 50 years later it still haunts me,I remember being afraid of someone coming inside our house and killing the family,I was 12.and a fan of Sharon Tate.
@pedrodelacabra18555 жыл бұрын
I remember she was on the Beverly Hillbillies sometimes.
@lisaleigh77794 жыл бұрын
Most of us that have seen the crime scene pics at the Tate residence will never be able to unsee it. It was gruesome, and the thought of the Manson family committing this crime chills me to the core.
@michaelbruns449 Жыл бұрын
Similar horrors happen every day of the week somewhere in the world, but they arent sensationalized.
@user-iz6ju3tb9p5 жыл бұрын
Who is here after seeing Once upon a time in hollywood? Hit like
@deanpd34025 жыл бұрын
I intend to see Once Upon a Time. Not getting released here till 15 August.
@user-iz6ju3tb9p5 жыл бұрын
нαςκεямαη if you hate Charles Manson and his family then you are going to love once upon a time in hollywood I know I do
@user-iz6ju3tb9p5 жыл бұрын
Dean PD it’s one hell of a movie you will love it if you hate Charles Manson and his family
@erinlorca12405 жыл бұрын
Stupid as fuck movie. His worst to date.
@sherryfink65355 жыл бұрын
Saw it this weekend lol.
@jeanangel21046 жыл бұрын
Another great video Sharon Tate story is still fascinating.
@lbj67716 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information! You are right about the pole. I have seen in many videos people think it is the originaly remaning pole on property since that time.
@forresthaggertychannel43016 жыл бұрын
L B J your welcome! It bothered me when I would see videos with wrong information, so I decided to do one with correct information about this unfortunate incident.
@mcjones8534 жыл бұрын
Dude can work that google earth like a champ.
@baldingogre6 жыл бұрын
Excellent job! From everything I've read or seen about the killings, you are spot on with the locations.
@forresthaggertychannel43016 жыл бұрын
Balding Ogre thank you! I read Tex Watson’s book, ‘Will you die for me’ and he gives many details in it. It was very helpful in making this video.
@ashesashesallfalldown87036 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, please keep them coming! Also love your book mentions so we can read more if we want. All around super awesome. Thanks.
@Animalfarm6cats5 жыл бұрын
I love, your voice. It's so gentle. Thank you, for your informative video.
@wjpalmar5 жыл бұрын
The people who live near that hill where you can overlook the mansion don't like people parking there I've been to all these locations
@flashy51502 жыл бұрын
Just amazing, how you do these videos and Google Earth. I do it when I’m trying to find different businesses that I want to apply to, but you take it to the next level. Awesome work my friend.
@tweevers26 жыл бұрын
Trent Reznor from Nine Inch Nails rented the Tate house in the 1990's and filmed the music video for 'Give Up' in the house.There are also home movies of Trent's on KZfaq showing around the property.Trent had a recording studio in the main room Sharon was murdered,the mixing console was put right were her body was found.
@blackestcat11115 жыл бұрын
tweevers2 yes- I heard of this before- that's sooo CRAZY why would he do that🤤🤤🤤🤤
@Zeke13795 жыл бұрын
@@blackestcat1111 because he's an idiot fanboy
@danceswithcritters5 жыл бұрын
I live in Canada, but I did take a drive up Cielo Dr. when I was there, having recently read Helter Skelter.
@danceswithcritters5 жыл бұрын
@1StarProductions There is no point, I'm just saying . Got a problem with that ?
@fcamp2654 жыл бұрын
Amazing job recreating this. I saw Once Upon a Time in Hollywood last night and your video showed me what a great job they also did recreating Cielo Drive
@mwdca78105 жыл бұрын
Great research..I had no idea they travelled down my 'hood on Beverly Glen returning to the Spahn Ranch. How fortuitous the kid found the gun in his family's back yard---it could have easily been entangled on a tree branch for decades!
@apmarin5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Never knew the “get away” story. What a bunch of sickos!
@indy_go_blue60485 жыл бұрын
If anyone is interested in the Manson story outside of Bugliosi's book, I highly recommend *The Family (updated and revised)* by Ed Sanders.
@deanaugust5 жыл бұрын
This is very impressive video, thanks for posting. Learned a lot of new things I never heard before . thanks
@ColonizersBlow5 жыл бұрын
Took this drive over a decade ago. There was a chain link fence blocking the little road leading up to the house because they were probably doing construction at the time. It was getting dark, & there weren't any street lights, so you could really imagine what that trip up there was like for the Manson clan... Creepy drive.
@tammy59405 жыл бұрын
My dad remodeled the Tate home after the murders and he said it was super creepy. He was told at the time if he discussed with anyone that he was remodeling the home he would be fired. The property owner had the guest house relocated from behind the original home to the front of the property . He did take my mom up to the house and let her go inside. She said that all of the bloody carpet was rolled up and placed in one of the bedrooms. She also said she saw the beam in the living room with the rope burns in it from where Sharon and Jay were hung. The murders happened on 8/9/69 and my sister was born on 8/9/72 kinda weird.
@tommyodonnell95 жыл бұрын
I don't think I could have done that job.
@monastratton73114 жыл бұрын
Me either. But woulda loved to visit it.
@Animalfarm6cats4 жыл бұрын
I was born on 8/19/69. The same time Sharon Tate's baby was due. That child would be 50, years old. It is so sad.
@vidsbydrone3 жыл бұрын
The guest house was never moved.
@pbhoulden82125 жыл бұрын
The adult victims of the atrocious and senseless crime would be in their 70s and 80s by now and that poor baby boy would be celebrating his 50th birthday later this month. I watched this video a few months ago before "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" and after seeing the movie, I wish the events of the film had really happened that night!
@craigmc36145 жыл бұрын
50 YEAR ANNIVERSARY COMING UP THIS THURSDAY.
@craigmc36145 жыл бұрын
@Spermwhale1000 Yes thank you Mr. Spermwhale. Big news here in Australia all over the TV and newspapers. So is that Canada stuff with the 2 fugitives found dead which we are all very suspicious about...
@loungesinger87755 жыл бұрын
I've been to this property and I've made the trip up this road. Jeff Franklin, producer of Full House and Family Matters bought the old estate and rebuilt on the ground and I built the pool. Beautiful views of the city.
@forresthaggertychannel43015 жыл бұрын
Lounge Singer how close is the pool you built to the location of the old pool?
@loungesinger87755 жыл бұрын
@@forresthaggertychannel4301 I don't know where the original pool was or even how the original house was set. I came after demolition and construction of the new compound started. Why? That's a strange question.
@ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid4 жыл бұрын
Cool video, man! I was already familiar with the route, but I didn't know about the evidence drops. Thanks for sharing! :)
@forresthaggertychannel43014 жыл бұрын
Kasper you’re welcome. I’m happy it helped you out.
@anastasiabeaverhousin26065 жыл бұрын
Benedict canyon is a beautiful drive, I take that sometimes home after work.
@crapple0095 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Bruce Springsteen (aka the Boss of Benedict Canyon) lives there.
@trade07145 жыл бұрын
Great work on this piece of history. These videos are fascinating. I like all the little details added, like where the pistol and clothes were tossed. And stopping to use an outside faucet at somebody's house. I stumbled across your James Dean video a few days ago and now I'm hooked.
@caliado4 жыл бұрын
I was reading the wikipedia about the Nine Inch Nails album "The Downward Spiral" and it said Trent Reznor bought the house and recorded the album in the house. After the album was finished, the house was demolished. So creepy.
@bigcris073 жыл бұрын
I was tripping out a few days ago when I found out they filmed the music video for "Gave up" in the house. Looked it up and indeed it was... soo creepy seeing the band jamming out with Marilyn MANSON (ironically) in the house living room and the shots of the pool area and front lawn. eerie!
@michaelhan81205 жыл бұрын
Boy Terry Melcher is one lucky SOB
@EmpressElizabeth19205 жыл бұрын
I believe his mother Doris Day told him to move. Also William Garrettson who was in the guest house was fortunate.
@aprilswk69995 жыл бұрын
What? William garettson was in the guest house and didn't hear a thing?
@EmpressElizabeth19205 жыл бұрын
@@aprilswk6999 yep that's what he always said. He said he had headphones on listening to music, writing letters. Yet the lights were on. I heard one of the girls went to check the guest house but heard the dog barking and told Tex nobody was there. Someone else who dodge death.
@SuperNevile5 жыл бұрын
Allegedly Steve McQueen had a "Great Escape". He was due to be there but was way led by a woman. Apparently he had punched Manson in the face a couple of months earlier over a script, and put on the hit list.
@wnewfmer4 жыл бұрын
So was the owner of the house where they used the hose to wash the blood off...
@eduardotorres68145 жыл бұрын
I wish we could find the man who tried to take the keys from Tex Watson.He could of got himself murdered that night.He probably spooked about the whole thing knowing who he was dealing with yikes
@rezaabdul85955 жыл бұрын
He may have crossed the rainbow bridge by now, don't you think so
@JohnMcMahon.5 жыл бұрын
I read Helter Skelter six years ago and tried a little google earthing myself on these locations but I wish this video was available then. Really good information here. Thanks.
@shawnadeyo4 ай бұрын
How absolutely horrifying to even imagine what they experienced being slaughtered the way they were. How can there be such evil in this world???
@shellsbignumber26 жыл бұрын
Very good video. Interestingly you used to be able to go up the street on Google Street View and go right to where the new gate is at the property a few years ago, someone must of asked Google to remove the street from its Street View, I suppose because of it infamy.
@forresthaggertychannel43016 жыл бұрын
shellsbignumber2 I didn’t know that, but certain you are correct that someone with fame and fortune said something to Google and they had it removed. I’m curious to know who it was.
@keeleye72256 жыл бұрын
must of? must've*
@sweetpeachbellini82456 жыл бұрын
Forrest Haggerty Thanks for this interesting video! My personal thought is that the Full House producer (?) did it. It certainly wasn't Roman.
@Deezeelove6 жыл бұрын
its annoying that you cant use google maps to go up to house! anyone can look at my house!
@tomp16125 жыл бұрын
It was still on the Street View last year.
@deborahchapman21305 жыл бұрын
I just found your channel, it’s very interesting. I’m pretty fascinated with this case,have been for years. My birthday is August 13th 1969. Hard to believe that Sharons son would be around my age.
@ivaneccles18694 жыл бұрын
My birthday was August 14th 1969, how fast is time ☹ this story has been in my mind for gawd knows how long..from Australia.
@Mark-qq9cd4 жыл бұрын
Thoughts: They seemed pretty focused on their “mission” and where to go. They knew which phone lines to cut... Tex seemed to remember where he parked, where he backed-up, where they went for water, remembered that confrontation with the home owner... All the while supposedly under a spell and high on drugs. Also curious as to why they did not kill the water-hose home owner. They just murdered 5 people and this witness is just pushed away. Very thought invoking presentation sir. Thank you.
@shrapnel774 жыл бұрын
Probably in a panic to rid themselves of evidence. Shooting this guy would have alerted neighbors, who would have called police. Given what they had done and rushing back to the ranch, they wanted to get the hell out of there fast.
@lisalaunspach8714 жыл бұрын
they claimed that they werent high that night, Manson wanted them to be totally aware of their actions. But whos to say whats the truth, seems unlikely that they wouldnt be high
@lisalaunspach8714 жыл бұрын
@brian me quite possibly, also he had been to the house before and seen Sharon. He knew she stayed there. I think he also thought that Terri Meltcher still lived there if I'm not mistaken
@lisalaunspach8714 жыл бұрын
@brian me you should read Susan Atkins book. She has a very interesting take on the whole motive thing and what she believes was going down. She does paint herself as a complete saint though but it's still a very interesting read
@lisalaunspach8714 жыл бұрын
@brian me no I haven't. I'll be sure to check it out
@philosophyexplained4 жыл бұрын
Ive been fascinated by the Manson story for a long time, im from Uk. This was a wonderful presentation, I always try to put myself there and this really helped me visualise. Just to understand what part of human psychology could push humans to act in such a way. Thank you for this video, can I ask you? Have you seen the JRE podcast with Tom oneill?
@giftedplanksify6 жыл бұрын
Can you some time do the Patty Hearst route? I went to the SLA " shootout" location a day after with my dad and took pictures?
@DexterHaven5 жыл бұрын
10:10 What a dumb way to dispose of a murder weapon in hindsight. He could have buried it a foot deep in any remote, vacant area along the roadside. That gun was a key piece of evidence in trial.
@aprilswk69995 жыл бұрын
Obviously these crackheads have a IQ of 0 to act so inhumane and foolishly without thinking of the consequences. They were probably high on drugs or something and didn't think of it
@elifoust76645 жыл бұрын
.22 buntline
@stephenmcnaney19795 жыл бұрын
Text and Susan Atkins were hi on Speed during this time
@kurtvonfricken68295 жыл бұрын
Antonio Perales del Hierro It really doesn't take much brains to figure out how to hide forever something as small as a pistol.
@pedrodelacabra18555 жыл бұрын
I would have hucked it in a lake.
@edpoe11082 жыл бұрын
What a cool concept for a channel! I'm really impressed with your knowledge of the subject and your presentation. I look forward to seeing your treatment of other historical events.
@rodgermurphy57214 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite and best videos on the subject
@migue47935 жыл бұрын
The old house looked much better. Another stupid producer living above his means. Yeah the old house is more beautiful. All it needed was remodeled and not demolished.
@joeykremple5 жыл бұрын
The new house may be an eye sore, but the site needed to be razed. They did the same thing to Dahmer's apt building in Milwaukee.
@edwardspencer-small70215 жыл бұрын
The old house looked better yes, but I doubt that many people would want to live in the house where 5 people (including a pregnant lady) were brutally murdered. If I had the producer's money I would have done the same. Saying that, I probably wouldn't consider moving to that piece of land in the first place.
@martinishot4 жыл бұрын
Let's have people come to your address where a famous murder took place even trespassing on your property for years and see if you don't do the same.The person who purchased OJ Simpsons Rockingham Dr home also did the same.
@migue47934 жыл бұрын
@@martinishot the old house looked and had more taste! That's what security is for, and lots of homes have had murders committed there and people don't tear them down.
@martinishot4 жыл бұрын
@@migue4793 What other murder has people parking and hanging around there? And I am talking decades, not just years.
@RyanWSi6 жыл бұрын
Can you please do the Wonderland murders?
@jennygrant74845 жыл бұрын
An 11 year old finds the murder weapon. Wow. I've never heard of that before. And NONE of these people felt guilty. That is a point that MUST be remembered, high or not these murderers SHOULD NEVER BE RELEASED. It takes evil to do this
@flashman76125 жыл бұрын
There was no house lovelier than the old house and no house uglier than the new one.
@DexterHaven5 жыл бұрын
Looking back, that guy who tried to grab the keys from Tex was messing with the wrong guy. They still had buck knives in the car.
@forresthaggertychannel43015 жыл бұрын
Dexter Haven and the pistol. Watson said he didn’t kill him because he wasn’t on Manson’s list to kill.
@DexterHaven5 жыл бұрын
Good point. I forgot they still had the gun in the car then. They have have been out of bullets, though. But if he was going to prevent them all from driving back to Charlie that night, perhaps Tex would know what Charlie would want him to do. ;) @@forresthaggertychannel4301
@forresthaggertychannel43015 жыл бұрын
Dexter Haven the gun held 8 bullets and only 6 were fired. It still had 2 shots.
@devin_leary5 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know anything else about this guy? Is there an interview of him or something? I find this part the most interesting
@tdsoupbone04 жыл бұрын
the gun would have been useless as the barrel was bent by this time
@leeanne46385 жыл бұрын
DISPITE the house's horrific background,it WAS a beautiful home, I wish it was there to this day, instead of the ugly monstrosity that unfortunately now takes the lands place.
@metalmarty39483 жыл бұрын
Wow, that resident who approached them and tried to take the keys out of the car sure was lucky and obviously had no idea who they were. He easily could have been killed himself.
@heffphilat6 жыл бұрын
That road that you went up across from the private drive. That is a former estate of Rudolph Valentino. I found your videos just this last week. I really enjoy them, please make more. LOL Happy Easter!
@forresthaggertychannel43016 жыл бұрын
Philip Heffner yes. His former estate was just too the left about 15 to 20 feet from that location. It still says Falcon’s Lair on the gate pillar.
@halfdohm5 жыл бұрын
Got to your channel while looking up the Tate case. I just finished watching Taratino's 'Once upon a time in Hollywood'. This was a very detail visual experience that gave me chills. Even though it was a long time ago, it was a horrific act. Didn't like how Taratino tied in the Tate connection completely twisting the truth. Would have been better to use fictitious characters. Thanks Forrest for an excellent job!
@byroncole75485 жыл бұрын
That's how I got here too, I just got finished watching Once upon a time in Hollywood no offense but if you weren't alive at the time the movie might no have any significance for you.
@mariasousacm5 жыл бұрын
@@byroncole7548 awfully true. No key at all. Tarantino did a great job.
@mattmischnick29265 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great videos. Could you do the Donner Family?
@puddythrob82423 жыл бұрын
It's all so terrifying ty for taking the time to explain the details!!
@Porsche996driver5 жыл бұрын
Wow fascinating. Google Earth works great for this. Good job documenting this thanks. I know this area a bit may check it on the motorcycle sometime.