This guy thinks his menus are laggy on his xbox one x.... should watch it on my OG xbox one 😂

Playground really should have done this update themselves rather than hiring a third party dev.

Your next-gen content is a joy to watch. Can’t wait for the AC and CoD analysis.

That hang up at 6:50 is a rare occurrence based on its 7 servers are 1 server system. You switched from one region to another but the new region I presume had a full lobby of higher ping players and the game pooped itself a little. More server side than game/console side. The servers for Horizon 4 are garbage after all

Dont understand why night shadows and SSAO are disabled on xsx, its not a massive perormance killer. Digital foundry, could you please ask the devs about it. the missing Ssao and night shadows in rsces are very noticable for me when Im playing.

I moved from One S to Series X, the change is completely stunning !!

Can't wait for Horizon 5! Hopefully it's in Japan. They also have the 4 seasons and the mountain roads are like the ultimate dual roads ala initial D, tokyo drift :D Also very gorgeous

Alex buddy, you've really gotta stop saying the full name of the console lol. Just say One X and Series X. Otherwise great analysis.

When do we get Valhalla PC vs Xbox Series X vs PS5? Cant wait for that video!! Great work as always!!

Awesome. Looking forward to more series s and x comparisons, as well as PC settings

7:02 You missed a checkpoint. Press Y to rewind.

I love the fact that Digital Foundry has become the ultimate beta testers as they seem to find and point out all these little things which the devs may actually already know about but maybe didn't have time to implement before launching the product. Thankfully we live in an age of digital updates and many little things can be patched and fixed over time. At least the frame rate and resolution are solid right off the bad so it'll still be a joy to play the game.

One issue I had, was my old save game crashed everytime I reached the autumn transition when I tried it on my series X. I had to delete my cloud and local saves. That fixed the issue, and luckily I wasn’t very far along anyway.

AC Valhalla & WD Legion - PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S

We’ve only had Alex for a couple years but I now couldn’t imagine DF without him

Really loved the video! Thank you for the info and all the details! I got a question, can you go flat out on the highway without having the map loading way after you pass?

Oh this explains so much! I was wondering why it looked kinda off as I've mostly played in the quality mode on One X. I really hope they improve it soon

Thanks for this video. When i was playing on my Series S i noticed that the night didn't look as pretty as in some videos of the One X but i wasn't sure why. Now i can see that the lack of shadows at night was the issue.I really hope that they add those shadows for the Series S :(

I noticed on my one X that the stutters were usually in sync with the radio. I think it's an audio buffer issue with the engine as I've had other stutters where the announcer repeats them self several times too. Likely it's constantly polling the audio engine to keep songs in sync with chatter across all stations

DF, how do you get youtube to compress your game footage so that it looks so good?

Honestly, 99% of gamers won't even notice the issues that you pointed out. 4K 60 with way faster loading times in a gorgeous game like FH4 is spectacular!

Still waiting for some definitive Series X|S review with Watch Dogs and AC Valhalla tested😏

6:30 The "one off drop" happened to me multiple times. I found that it might have something to do with server connection as it only happened when I was on a full server and a few minutes away from a Forzathon event but happened three times or so since playing on release day

Hey Alex, in those short freezes in the open world, were you in the offline mode, or were you online with other players?

I never played the One X version of FH4. I'm playing it now for the first time on my Series X and noticed a big update after the initial install. Being that I never saw any previous versions of this game, I thought it looked flawless and didn't notice any of the things pointed out here. I feel like after watching this now i'm going to go back into into the game possibly noticing them, lol! But I do understand where the improvements could've been made. I appreciate these kinds of analisis. Shows developers that issues don't go unnoticed no matter how minor they are. The resources are there. Use them to the best of their abilities.

Forza Horizon 4 is the BEST racing game I've ever played. Can't wait to play it again on Series X.

The classic DF Music returns! I swear I haven't heard that opening track since 2013

Thank you for the sX vs sS comparisons... been hard to find good comparisons (wanted to see how things ran 1080p wise for the S) as I was looking to get one for a TV that only does 1080...

Thanks for the analysis! I was playing this last night on my Series X. It is phenomenal. The load time improvements are everything I could have asked for.

Great video, as always! I'm very impatient to see some comparisons between PS5 and Xbox Series X for multiplatform games like Assassin's Creed: Valhalla! :D

Alex, thanks so much for all the in depth info! Hopefully these issue can be resolved

That reflex on back mirror is outstanding! I dreamed with it for much time. Can the two sides mirrors reflex correct? Some games you couldnt have the right reflex so if you tried to drive on 1st person view it wasnt there. With ray tracing it changes all

For anyone who's still wondering, no they haven't fixed the issues mentioned in this video. It got a single update and hasn't been touched since.

Is a great game, but this downgrade on night shadows and SSAO is sad.

DF, what kind of television do you use?

In winter, what i found out is, the snow looks a bit too shiny in some cases on my Series S compared to the One X version. Best to see on the stones from the Windmill.

Good timing. Love me a bit of Digital Foundry while I eat my dinner.

Some peoples have Seriex X and yet no one tested Ryse Son of Rome.

Good work. I'm sure Playground will be able to push this engine to include some of the previously present eye candy.

I have the issue that the backlights are kinda glitching out while driving fast across the highway, someone else?

I gotta get me that ssd nvme for my pc, that "need to restart game" after fiddling around the settings is killing me hahaha.

Can you please do AC: Valhalla, Watchdogs Legion and Godfall PC vs Console settings comparison?

Great video and the game looks amazing (as always!). Maybe picking on the driver updating at 30fps vs the game at 60fps and highlighting that as an issue was maybe nitpicking just a little too far! The amount of time you spend in a car where the driver is even visible is pretty minimal (was for me at least!), and I'd challenge anyone not looking for flaws to spot that while concentrating on a race! I guess DF's job is to look for these 'flaws' though I guess!

What about 1440p resolution on the XSX? is that not an option? Did i miss it in the video?

I know that most of the upgrades other than increased FPS are probably unnoticeable when I'm driving over 100 mph, but I still find all of this technical analysis fascinating!

You can already get 60fps at 1080p with a mixture of High and Ultra settings using an old R9 380 4GB. Surprised that the Xbox Series S is only able to match that, but without any SSAO.

Great video but I'd love to hear the outtakes of all the times you messed up one X and series X/S

Thanks for the detailed look at the change in the game. It seems like they may not have fully taken advantage of XSX hardware with this update, I expect the next version of Forza Horizon will make full use of the hardware. The random frame rate drops you see, I have noticed that this happened on my One X if my Internet connection dropped a few pings for a moment or so; I think this could be a factor to consider as the game does analyse your user info to update you Drivatar online (as well as all the integrated online play.

I don't think you are "reading" the timestamps correctly. The millisecond counts seem to be counting to 60 but you are reading them as a decimal point. At 4:13 you say 13:40 as "13.4" seconds but it's more like 13.67.

Well were over a month down the line and the missing effects on series X still havent been fixed no ambient occlusion etc and that's with DF reaching out to the developer I wouldn't mind but theres been two patches since release of series x patch 🤷‍♂️

Quality content as always from the DF team 🙏🏼😎 ty

whats with the Textures on Series S at 5:21 ?

Thanks DF, finally a relevant comparison about FH4 :). I had the chance to receive my Series X on 10th nov (France), but when I launched Forza Horizon 4 (which I used to plays dozens of hrs on One X quality mode), something appeared weird to me eyes, as if it was more "flat" visually... Here's the clear explanation . This new gen is deceptive, seems to already show its limitations on old gen games upgrades: that kind of graphic concession to allow 60 fps is too bad. And, in the case of Gears 5 for example, the visual were improved as it was already running at 60 on One X...

This is really weird and 100% the evidence of lazy optimising/porting done by the third party development studio. My pc (ryzen 1600x, gtx1070ti) does all these settings ultra, 144fps on 1080p. I'm so confident that Xbox series x should get these options with some optimization at least.

I have just made the switch from one x to series x and I'm loving FH4 again, only issue I've noticed which winds me up is one of the car cams, the shadows animate in stuttery blocks as time progresses so you get these glorious visuals spoiled by jumping tree shadows which they did on the one x but why wasn't that fixed on series x? Maybe they can't due to time jump but it's a shame as it stands out to me now I see it more

Vielen Dank für den Test und auf Wiedersehen ;)

Even an RX5700XT, which is inferior to the XSX gpu level, is able to run FH4 at perfectly solid 4K60fps on ultra settings. My theory here is that the game is still running in backwards compatibility mode, so they cant still make use of RDNA2 IPC improvements, i think that it's literally emulating GCN behaviour. The game shouldn't be announced as an X|S optimized in this state.

You guys are on fire cranking out these videos, we love it but remember to eat and sleep!

Hey Alex I am one of the few people that still plays anthem and I was really looking forward to playing it for Xbox series X. I noticed on the hub where you purchase items at the marketplace everything is running slow or the Xbox series X. The game frame rate goes back to normal once you enter inside your suit and go to free roam in the game. Flying around seems to run like it did on Xbox one X. But I was just curious as to why the game runs twice as slow and the marketplace. I also noticed this when running the original 360 version of dark Souls on the xbox series X. Please can you help me out?

Hi mate . Which is better on series x fh4 or f7 . Ive never played forza before .. thanks

Thank you for this. I knew something wasn’t right visually. I just couldn’t pick it out. The shadows, I definitely saw. I didn’t catch the ambient occlusion missing, nor the characters animating at half frame rate. So hopefully they fix these. There is no way the new machine can’t run it at 60 frames per second with these things present... or maybe it’s something with the engine. But if the PC can do it at ultra with a 2080, the series X should be able to do it the same. It just might need more optimization. Let’s hope it was just some sort of glitch or something they missed in translation. Cause it’s funny, because something seemed off to me and I couldn’t place it. Definitely the ambient occlusion would make a huge difference along with the shadows. There is also some sort of lighting glitch and I can’t place what that is. I notice it when I rotate the camera, especially through trees. It seems like there are light flashes. I don’t know what that is. Maybe you guys have a better idea.

Can you do a No Mans Sky analysis on Series X? I installed the update, and have to say it still suffers from really bad pop in.

XVA is not just tractor compression. It's using a virtual 100gb ram disk whether textures are loaded in on a per slice per frame basis

I remember Alex’s first video, it was awkward and not that great. He’s sure come a long way, excellent video.

Who made the port was an third party studio... hope they fix it, really lazy port.

I’ve just upgraded from my Megadrive to an Xbox Series X and the difference is amazing!

@digital foundry Shouldn't the Series S load faster if it runs lower resolution textures?

Hi. Good Video. U can Compare in Horizon 5 the One X and Series X again. I think that would be the best to See the actuality Max grafics for both. Sorry for my Bad English.

so you need to zoom 400% to see the resolution differente, I guess I will go with the Series S.

Super disappointing to hear it's basically performance mode in 4k... Rather than quality mode at 60fps...

So one of the weirder details is the shadow inconsistency in the Series X version. For almost every single race the dynamic shadows are turned off...except I noticed in the stunt events it's fully active. This incurred no performance hits either so my feeling is this was kept as is on the one x because of an oversight. I would hope they patch it back in as it adds a ton to when you are driving around the world at night. The atmosphere is excellent.

Can you deliver Tofu though?

I'm just impressed by how he was able to constantly say the names of each xbox without messing up

too early, waiting some patches for the patches.

Digital Foundry videos are always top class. Thank you!

Thanks for the in depth break down.

You can REALLY tell when you're playing online with an Xbox player. Waiting for them to load is painfully long.

One could only imagine how Driveclub looks in 4k 60fps.

“The quadrupling of pixels is very obvious.” Me on my phone: “I’ll just take your word for that, friend.”

Stutter in games could also be caused if teredo filtering is active in your modem. I had stutters in fh4 because this was standard active in my fritzbox modem.. you can also check in your Xbox network settings if teredo is active.

there's an old game that had ntoriously bad frame rate, some of it was fixed with patches but they did add an uncapped frame rate to lichdom battlemage. maybe try check that game out ? i will be doing my own on thursday.

You know there is an overwhelming amount of work when Alex switch to console coverage ! No RT even !

Can I ask what the track is playing in the background

wait so even a first party game in S will not be 1440p60 ? or is it dynamic 1440p-(minimum 1080p) or does it just maintain 1080p to reach 60?

I would really like to see Japan, Africa and Argentina in next Horizon games.

I can't help but think digital foundry is downplaying how the game looks on series x. Either that or my eyes are seeing something different than what they are seeing.

Oh, DF. I love you. But the audio in your videos is always about 20 decibels louder than the previous video I just watched and almost gives me a heart attack every time. Haha.

Can you guys do the modern warfare series x patch? There are serious stuttering issues on 120hz mode with vrr on.

30fps animations in a 60fps game can be very distracting. I remember it sticking out in Halo 5 and it looked terrible.

Man this game looks great. I played in Performance mode on the One X. 4K and the higher render distance just add so much to the experience. I am in awe, feels amazing to play.

I am way too happy when i see the next DF review.

guys, i have Forza Horizon 4 on S series and there is something troubling me. they are in the winter season, and various bright white dots appear on the earth and buildings. they are especially noticeable at night. it's normal?

Damn, one of the features i love in Quality Mode on the X1X is the car light shadow, i really hope Panic Button fix it on the XSX in races, same for SSAO, otherwise i'll stick to my PC when playing FH4, when i get XSX.

I currently can't get my hands on a Series X due to it being sold out everywhere so what am I doing? Torturing myself with videos like these 🙃

What a great closing shot to the video 🤣

Last time I played it was on Xbox One S until yesterday on my new Series X. It's a different game, 4K/60 and with this beautiful setting is jaw-dropping.

We need a COD BLACK OPS COLD WAR comparison between Xbox Series X and PS5

Awesome thank you as always for the hard work

Hopefully they can improve a few of these issues. Seems they've just used the 60FPS from the One X and then ported that over while upping some settings.

Hmm, I'm sure they'll patch it, sounds like they started with the old oneX 60fps version as a base.