Foundation Season 2 Ending Explained | Episode 10 Recap & Review
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Күн бұрынFoundation Season 2 Ending Explained. Episode 10 Breakdown. An in-depth recap and review of S02E10 “Creation Myths” with the ending explained. Please Subscribe 👉 bit.ly/PetePeppers
Foundation’s Season 2 finale wrapped up a much improved second season on Apple TV+. At the end of episode 9 Terminus had been destroyed by Brother Day (Lee Pace) and episode 10 opens with him wanting to continue to wipe out planets that are loyal to the Foundation. Bel Riose (Ben Daniels) finally refuses his order and Hober Mallow (Dimitri Leonidas) reveals that he made a deal with the Spacers who have locked in a jump sequence that will destroy the Imperial Fleet. When he realizes he can’t escape Cleon XVII tries to kill Bel Riose but the tables are turned when he activates the castling device.
Demerzel (Laura Birn) returned to Trantor when she got an alert about Brother Dusk (Terrence Mann) and Enjoiner Rue (Sandra Yi Sencindiver) discovering her former prison. She adds to the story they heard from Cleon I and we get a better idea about how her programming prevents her from being free. She is forced to kill Dusk and Rue and hopes to have Queen Sareth (Ella-Rae Smith) executed so that she can restore the Genetic Dynasty. Brother Dawn (Cassian Bilton) intervenes and he is able to talk Demerzel into letting him, Queen Sareth, and their unborn child leave Trantor.
On Ignis Tellem Bond’s death (Rachel House) has cleared the way to create the Second Foundation. Tellem makes one final appearance taking over Josiah’s body and trying to kill Gaal. Salvor (Leah Harvey) is able to stop him but she receives a mortal wound in the process. Her death proves that they can change the future and Hari (Jared Harris) and Gaal (Lou Llobell) enter cryosleep together to jump forward in time to face The Mule who we see in a brief flash-forward to 152 years later.
It’s revealed that Doctor Seldon had a plan to get everyone off of Terminus and into the Vault before it was destroyed at the end of episode 9. The plan was to sacrifice Terminus to destroy the Empire’s fleet and move the Foundation somewhere new. Their technological advantage will be immense now that the Spacers are no longer navigating Imperial class jump ships.
Deep Dive for episode 209 with special guest Foundation Showrunner and Executive Producer David S. Goyer • Foundation Season 2 Ep...
S2, E10
SEPTEMBER 15, 2023
Creation Myths
Season Finale. Gaal, Salvor and Hari chart a new path forward on Ignis. Demerzel heads to Trantor, taking actions that will change Empire forever.
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More than a century after the season one finale, tension mounts throughout the galaxy in “Foundation” season two. As the Cleons unravel, a vengeful queen plots to destroy Empire from within. Hari, Gaal and Salvor discover a colony of Mentalics with psionic abilities that threaten to alter psychohistory itself. The Foundation has entered its religious phase, promulgating the Church of Seldon throughout the Outer Reach and inciting the Second Crisis: war with Empire. The monumental adaptation of “Foundation” chronicles the stories of four crucial individuals transcending space and time as they overcome deadly crises, shifting loyalties and complicated relationships that will ultimately determine the fate of humanity.
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0:00 Intro
2:02 Ignis
5:43 The Destiny
12:49 Demerzel Returns to Trantor
19:57 The Vault
21:43 The Ending
24:48 Review/Thoughts
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@Jalilhalman 7 ай бұрын
Demerzel’s dialog. So well written, like poetry. So deep, so freaking profound. I was mouth agape!!!
@getnkosi 7 ай бұрын
Same. Absolute poetry 👌🏾
@mistressfreezepeach 7 ай бұрын
that's how synthetic partners and personal ai assistants will manipulate you very soon into buying more stuff, and you will be happy.
@getnkosi 7 ай бұрын
@mistressfreezepeach it already does... AI is the only reason I found this page or watched any of his videos. The future is now.
@Jalilhalman 7 ай бұрын
@@mistressfreezepeach isnt that the point of AI? Lol
@StopFear 7 ай бұрын
I was not as impressed as you were because while Demerzel’s character is written well everything else in the show is extremely poorly written. Throughout the season the acting was passable. But in this last episode it is noticeably very bad, particularly from the young actors. Imo the worst acting was by Gaal, Salvor, and Constant actors. Another big issue is that the actor who plays Hari Seldon , either due to how he is written, or due to the actor, just has all these emotions that are not characteristics of the books’ Hari Seldon. Hari Seldon in the books was a kind of person who is almost distancing himself from emotions and strong feelings due to being an academic. But in the show he is almost too involved in the smallest stories. Basically I am just devastated by how insultingly bad this ending and show was. I hope it’s cancelled. Sincerely.
@AerielFerguson 7 ай бұрын
I really liked how this season's dusk and dawn grew close and were able to have the secret communication. As opposed to the mistrust between last season's dawn and dusk. I'm happy that Dawn and Sareth were able to escape.
@NoRoundBrown 7 ай бұрын
Its was nice to see them have a bond without Day, but I wanted Demerzel to kill off Sareth 😅 I got excited when she got arrested 😆
@RykkerNighteyes 7 ай бұрын
I don't think they survived. Can she really decant another one if there is one out there just roaming around?
@laptop770 7 ай бұрын
Why not? Remove the mind-sync thing and with a bit of memory edit to not remember the last few hours and they're good to go.
@RykkerNighteyes 7 ай бұрын
@@laptop770 because Cloud Dominion have technology to give back the memories.
@laptop770 7 ай бұрын
@RykkerNighteyes Rather unlikely the decanted clones would be slipping away from Demerzel to go get memories restored, especially if they are erased back to before Sareth arrived. Certainly before Dusk and Dawn thought to check their memories.
@gustavoboscardin9351 7 ай бұрын
My only issue with the end of this seasons is that we'll have to wait over a year to get the next one 😢
@luciaceba4640 7 ай бұрын
probably more
@gosnooky 7 ай бұрын
More than a year, I'd wager... the writer's strike and all.
@woooshbait9696 7 ай бұрын
@@gosnookythey already start filming so i dont think writers strike will affect
@vulamnguyen9453 7 ай бұрын
Meanwhile I can wait for Slow Horse season 3 at the end of the year. AppleTV has so many quality tv shows.
@mondianijoli9080 7 ай бұрын
@@woooshbait9696 writers are present when filming, to change last minute things if needed. A dialogue line, or to answer questions, to fix inconsistencies if someone finds some, whatever, or for re-shoots. They're needed to improve the end result
@rachelcoleman4693 7 ай бұрын
I love Demerzel. Laura Birn has quickly become one of my favorites actresses.
@PetePeppers1 7 ай бұрын
She's doing amazing work.
@themidcentrist 7 ай бұрын
She has been great. The fact that English is not her first language and she speaks with a slight accent works well for the character. Her origin before meeting the original Cleon is meant to be mysterious.
@ryanhamstra49 7 ай бұрын
Over all the acting has been great. Some side characters are just ok, but no one is obnoxiously bad, and many of them are extremely good. All 3 empire brothers nail it IMO, especially Pace. Jared Harris has really impressed me over the past few years also, between this and Chernobyl, as well as the expanse, Sherlock Holmes, etc.
@brendonhope 7 ай бұрын
The radiant has shown it can be in two places and Harry can travel between them. Now there are three radiants and one is in Demerzels possession, so Harry ocan travel to the third Radiant, that’s why he gave Demerzel the radiant. It’s awesome story telling, there are so many ways it can go.
@jota_v. 7 ай бұрын
This season was outstanding! Much better than the first one! I’m so hyped for what’s next
@Sherlock245 7 ай бұрын
Everyone was wrong that terminus was gone.
@WHG369 7 ай бұрын
@@Sherlock245terminus was a planet. It is gone. The first foundation wasn't destroyed
@Sherlock245 7 ай бұрын
@@WHG369 but everyone was convinced the people died. Terminus live in the people and I predicted they be saved. 🥲😙 you yourself was so sure it was all gone.
@johnjenkins9445 7 ай бұрын
@@Sherlock245 well done Sherlock, smelling through all the poo and seeing the truth ;)
@Jalilhalman 7 ай бұрын
My words exactly! Extremely well done.
@factor2634 7 ай бұрын
The show was up and down but the acting of Demezel was outstanding she killed the complexity of emotion she nailed it
@JohnnyZenith 7 ай бұрын
Nope, it was all up.
@ryanhamstra49 7 ай бұрын
@@Ryan-eu3kpwft? Why do you have to be so negative about someone liking the show?
@Mr-R.R. 7 ай бұрын
season 1 was up and down. This season was pretty much only up and up each episode.
@Mr-R.R. 7 ай бұрын
@@Ryan-eu3kp Must suck being a bitter asshole.
@kleamat 7 ай бұрын
Don't know what show you was watching it never had a down moment.
@hainzsolomon172 7 ай бұрын
Laura Birn deserves an Emmy, she was great!
@evilydal 7 ай бұрын
That scene with DAWN leaving with sareth talking w DEMERZEL was really heartfelt. The emotions of dawn still wishing for Demerzel to find her Hapiness.
@selja26 7 ай бұрын
Some fantastic acting by Laura Birn! I just can't get enough of it. Her storyline is some sci-fi Shakespeare. It's so satisfying when the actor's and writer's talents result in something so epic.
@beadragon1048 7 ай бұрын
Well said! I pray that APPLE makes a strong play for her to get an Emmy for her fantastic performance!!!! The gentleman who plays Poly was outstanding this season as well, magnetic actor! 🤓
@PetePeppers1 7 ай бұрын
would be great if the strike ends and that Robot Wars spinoff DSG wants to make happens. Double the Laura Birn.
@selja26 7 ай бұрын
@@PetePeppers1 I just found one of her Finnish films, "Helene", and it's clear from it as well that Laura is an ace of subtlety :) Fingers crossed she gets more interesting material to let her talent bloom and for us to enjoy.
@mikkojuhani7704 7 ай бұрын
@@selja26 She is in the new Crow movie.
@JohnnyZenith 7 ай бұрын
What I loved about the scene with Bel and Hobor is that you can see they'd be great friends in other circumstances. Such a shame.
@josealvarado2483 7 ай бұрын
What if they’re with the SPACERS!
@pettaduffy6561 7 ай бұрын
I was SOLD - lock, stock & barrel. That ending could not have been better! Absolutely loved this series and so thrilled to have a Sci Fi show worth waiting after Raised By Wolves was cancelled. Demerzel is by far my favourite, for an AI she's such a tragic character but masterfully played by Laura Birn - bring on S3!
@ryankittle3431 7 ай бұрын
Would be great if Apple picked up Raised By Wolves
@ianboelts 7 ай бұрын
RIP RBW
@stdesy 7 ай бұрын
Raised by Wolves was the single weirdest show I’ve ever seen. I loved it and I really wish they were still making it but I can see why it was cancelled. No way that show had broad appeal
@ianboelts 7 ай бұрын
I suppose I can understand that, my counter is that it's strange and annoying for them to cancel a show like that after developing it for two seasons when Scott had said he already had the ending mapped out. So many show runners these days pitch these shows with no thought to how the plot might conclude and Ridley said he had an ending. after disasters like what happened with GOT it curious to me why they wouldn't give a producer with as much acclaim as Ridley Scott the time to finish his story.@@stdesy
@fabiancurto6484 7 ай бұрын
Raised by wolfs was great but I think this one is much better😊
@alpacamale2909 7 ай бұрын
The actress that plays Demerzel stole the show
@Sherlock245 7 ай бұрын
No hari, dawn and serrth stole it. Especially the clone and the Queen. Now the nation knows empire is a traitor to kill its own.
@alpacamale2909 7 ай бұрын
@@Sherlock245 Acting wise? not by a long shot.
@Sherlock245 7 ай бұрын
@@alpacamale2909 performance is nothing compared to DESTINY! 😉😊🙃
@aawillma 7 ай бұрын
I didn't think anyone could out perform Lee Pace in this show but you're right, she beat him this time.
@williamerazo3921 7 ай бұрын
Give her an Emmy. She carrying the show
@donnaelam2995 7 ай бұрын
The Gaal/Hari sequence on Ignus was absolutely BRILLIANT. Really well done and commendable for both Actors. The First Foundation intact and safe, The Second Foundation on course with great but unknown potential, Demerzel flailing and trying to hold things down as she awakens the replacement Empire Clones and looking to the radiant which is what Vault Hari surely wants and Dawn, that Kid - what a shocker! He FINALLY got away! I never would have guessed Little Baby Dawn could pull things off and outsmart Nanny Demerzel. WHAT is she going to do now? - there are TWO DAWNS!! Really excellent twist and set up for future conflict and uncharted territory, plot wise. Cannot wait until season 3!
@LordPaulusCobris 7 ай бұрын
Actually in S3 there will be only one Dawn, Day and Dusk... That Dawn, will die, and the Queen too... Their offspring will be around for sure, and i don´t know if there is going to be a tug of fight for the Empire Throne...
@CamoronZ 7 ай бұрын
I think the Dawn storyline would end there, they could just live happy forever after. The story would skip a long period of time so they will all be long gone by then and replaced by the next next Cleon. Because the last scene that Demerzel let them go instead of hunting them down so they can resist by the way they told us, its a win win anyway.
@TheGrumpyChairman 7 ай бұрын
Crucially, there is a schism in the Empire (which is pretty much as Asimov wrote it). And surely, Seldon would want Demerzel to know that, to know that this is how it has to be.
@fraserdowd6552 7 ай бұрын
@@LordPaulusCobris I think in the next season cloud dominion will be a second imperial faction with day and seraph's line ruling.
@LordPaulusCobris 7 ай бұрын
@@fraserdowd6552 It might be... the Imperium slip into 2, and Cloud Dominium a part of it... The Foundations will be at full steam by then too...
@sajidyasin7311 7 ай бұрын
Too many deaths of characters I loved. Some moments were genuinely heartbreaking. Bel Rios and Hober Mallow had me laughing and crying all at the same time. Incredible actors!
@jajac7888 7 ай бұрын
Truly! I was bawling the entire time!
@Uouttooo 6 ай бұрын
This is inevitable given each season is a hundred something years into the future. Most people will be dead by next season even if they don't die explicitly on screen. It is nice that they brought back some characters either as flashbacks or as illusions. For instance, most people that escaped from Terminus will be dead next season including Poly.
@sajidyasin7311 6 ай бұрын
@@Uouttooo having read the books I understand the reasons why they have done what they have done from a narrative perspective for a TV show but The Mule. For me it was such a big WTF moment that I'm gutted people will not get to experience that. However maybe it's not the actual Mule we are seeing as that character was not who we thought he was until the big reveal!!
@eden20111 7 ай бұрын
Brother Day, Bel Riose, and Lady Demerzel really stole the show. Phenomenal acting. I’m at a loss for words. This season is far beyond my expectations. It’s at a whole different level. The writers, production team, actors, all deserve acclaim. Take all the time for season 3.
@colinafobe2152 3 ай бұрын
as how good these 3 are as bad Poly, Constant and Gall are
@greg9088 3 ай бұрын
Bel Rosie’s romance was utterly unbelievable too. Bad writing.
@colinafobe2152 3 ай бұрын
@@greg9088 oh yes that is true, but that guy is so hot it compensates bad writing
@greg9088 3 ай бұрын
@@colinafobe2152 Vapid.
@jacoda 7 ай бұрын
I might be in the minority here but I thought Salvor was a badass and I’m going to miss her. Even the way she went out was badass, protecting her Mom.
@agapeten 7 ай бұрын
I loved her character too. I guess I empathised.
@ricardioscarbonara102 7 ай бұрын
Agreed! I prefer her character and also the actresses ability to Gael's
@SapphireStars 7 ай бұрын
I loved her character and I'm so upset she's dead. I think it would have been so cool to explore her abilities next season. It sucks that a great season ended so terribly and make me less invested in Gaal's storyline over all. Made the whole season feel hollow.
@JohnnyZenith 7 ай бұрын
She was a badass. People are just narrow.
@Ryan-eu3kp 7 ай бұрын
Extremely glad she is gone lol.
@toomuch4em 7 ай бұрын
The fight sequence with Bel Riose and Day was crazy!
@andrewmcneil 7 ай бұрын
This conflict also explains why Demerzel ripped off he face after killing Dawn in S1
@tomasvrabec1845 7 ай бұрын
The conflict there was already clear. If you watch the actress - mainly the actress throu the whole reasons she shows far far more than just in that scene. She already shows conflict of interests when other parts are happening. Even when the old dusk says something is wrong.
@eddieterrell5457 7 ай бұрын
I love how the director said in your interview….. the planet terminus was destroyed!! Lol he didn’t lie , he just didn’t tell us the people were saved!! This show is incredible!! All the death scenes were so epic! Salvor will return
@Sherlock245 7 ай бұрын
So many thought that it was gone but he was not telling the truth and I was right the people lived!!!!!! 😊😊😊
@Ryan-zv3os 7 ай бұрын
@Sherlock245 it is gone but the foundation is the people not a place.
@Sherlock245 7 ай бұрын
@@Ryan-zv3os that what i mean the people lived and everyone was so sure they all were gone cause of interview.
@johnjenkins9445 7 ай бұрын
he even said everyone on terminus is dead.. this really cheapened the finale for me.. i find it sad a showrunner feels the need to go on podcasts and misdirect folks so that he can do the same cheap fake outs over and over and over.. i lost much respect for the show and its writers last night :/
@chuckles069 7 ай бұрын
"somehow the Foundation survived" moment for me
@3cords_1braid 7 ай бұрын
I hope Josiah had a proper ceremony. He was a sweet boy 😢 Adding: Watching Demerzel break emotionally was such a powerful moment for me. I’m so consumed by the complexity of her as a character.
@ryankittle3431 7 ай бұрын
Is he really dead? They never showed his burial.
@alanpennie8013 7 ай бұрын
@@ryankittle3431 If he's alive perhaps he really is The Mule. He was an odd character.
@Funder1Nk 7 ай бұрын
I agree. Everyone being alive in the vault felt a little too “snowglobe-y” for me. Previously I felt the loss for everyone on terminus. And now, it’s sort of just all “magic and no consequences”
@JohnnyMcMillan 3 ай бұрын
You get the feeling no one really dies and anyone can be brought back to life
@MrFireboyFTW 2 ай бұрын
People on the invictus died tho so it's not like he won
@tosvus Ай бұрын
@@JohnnyMcMillan In this case though, and I haven't read the book(s?), so I may be way off, but I'm not seeing this as magic or anything like that. My thought is that it looked pretty massive in space, so there is actually a large vault out in space that the vault on Terminus was sort of a portal to. I do agree that it is playing with emotions, and this plus Seldon's fake death leaves me thinking of bad papers written in middle-school that ends with "then he woke up and it was all a dream".
@Darkmountaindweller 7 ай бұрын
Lee pace gave a wonderful performance, all the actors on the show should be very proud, one of the best acting performances I’ve seen from everyone ,amazing job from everyone it felt like I was there , season 2 of foundation is an epic
@biomimetica 7 ай бұрын
Demerzel from the books has been a favorite character of mine since forever and their endless mission, utterly devoted to humanity for 20,000 and compulsion to serve ignoring any selfish considerations, a clearly sentient being trapped by their programming was already compelling. But what this show has done with the character is a fucking masterpiece- they have taken a character who, by virtue of their longevity and programming, was already tragic, and amplified that tragedy and the introspection into what a being like that’s existence would look like. If there is any character that makes the case for us to limit AI development and god forbid, never try to establish Artificial General Intelligence and sentience, it’s Demerzel. Their fate is inescapably cruel regardless of what happens. Kudos to the show runners who continue asking these very Asimovian questions, Free Demerzel, and long live Daneel Olivaw.
@fatjay9402 7 ай бұрын
This season was even much better then season 1... lets hope season 3 gonna be even better!
@JohnnyZenith 7 ай бұрын
Disagree. I love them both equally.
@knabdank 7 ай бұрын
Can't wait for season 3, got the first 3 of 6 books gonna read them now while i wait for season 3. this series is up there with the expanse as the two best scifi we have gotten in the last 10 or more years.
@Sherlock245 7 ай бұрын
Its so different to the books.
@Mr.Witness 7 ай бұрын
@@Sherlock245but still so good
@wd2989 7 ай бұрын
There are 7 Foundation books, not 6. And yes the storyline in Goyer’s show is NOT in Asimov’s books at all. I’m a big fan of the books. I enjoy the show but I have trouble “stopping myself from expecting” to see Asimov’s storyline, characters, & scenes. The expectations interfere with what I see on screen too much. I hope you enjoy the books and have less struggle separating the two.
@braxxian 7 ай бұрын
The books are very different. But I’m sure you will still find the spirit of Asimov’s classic tale in both.
@Sherlock245 7 ай бұрын
@@braxxian are the books this suspensful?? They don't have the 3 clones in the book????
@laterrius 7 ай бұрын
An awesome season! The actress who plays Demerzel did a fantastic job!
@heartofdawn2341 7 ай бұрын
Demerzel is going to be the one to watch. Her imperative that Empire _shall_ endure is now facing the brutal fact that Empire is _ordained_ to fall. How she reacts to to this inevitability and tries to fight against it, or seeks to find a loophole that allows for both will be interesting to see. Asimov's works frequently delve into the problem of a robot given a edict that it both simultaneously _must_ do and _can't_ due to the laws governing it. So I won't be surprised to see the show draw answers from there.
@victorpradha9946 7 ай бұрын
Once Empire fails, Demerzel is free. Her directive is to protect the Empire and the Cleonic dynasty. When that is brought down by outside forces, despite her best programmed efforts, she will be released as she has nothing to protect or serve anymore.
@the.otis.burger617 7 ай бұрын
All of the deaths of the beloved characters were heartbreaking and overall this season was just amazing! I'm looking forward to S3!!
@TheSkippy82 7 ай бұрын
When you get to work on a Friday and Pete's uploaded already...you know it's going to be a good day
@TheSkippy82 7 ай бұрын
@@BigDaddy-666 fight the system destroy the machine eat the rich
@NaumRusomarov 7 ай бұрын
I genuinely cared about Demerzel. She’s a sentient being that is trapped to follow the orders of a long dead asshole. Looking forward to season 3.
@tosvus Ай бұрын
I guess it is only Day she cannot hurt, and is that ANY iteration of Day? ..and Dusk was one of the Day's at some point, so would he not count?
@bluzercic 20 күн бұрын
@@tosvus Day is the Empire
@Ace-mj8vj 7 ай бұрын
I thought Zoie Palmer from Dark Matter was great as an android but Laura Birn as Demerzel is brilliant acting.
@lizziewahl 7 ай бұрын
Brother Constants Hope joke was the best. I couldn’t stop cry laughing
@lila7663 7 ай бұрын
Shocked and so happy that my favourite new character, Sareth, somehow managed to survive the season! Sad we probably won't see that actress again, but so curious to see what comes of their lineage and Cloud Dominion in 152 years.
@AnniAdri-dq6om 7 ай бұрын
Why won't we see her again?
@lila7663 7 ай бұрын
@@AnniAdri-dq6om Next season is 152 years in the future, similar to how s2 was also a generational jump. So unless they clone her or put her to sleep it seems pretty unlikely we'll see her again sadly.
@AnniAdri-dq6om 7 ай бұрын
@@lila7663 @lila7663 Ah, right...152 years later. Yet, it's possible, however, that they might choose to show and detail the story arc for Sareth and newly, truly-free-from-Empire's-grasp (hopefully) Brother Dawn, at beginning of season 3 - through flashbacks, at least, if nothing else. The cloning of Sareth is also possible (although that doesn't seem like a very Sareth-like thing to do). So, don't lose hope! I, myself, am a bit dismayed that we won't get Hober Mallow/Brother Constant, Bel Riose/Glawen Curr or any more Salvor Hardin (wasn't expecting her to die so soon). I was pretty satisfied with the ending, overall, though.
@Ray03595 7 ай бұрын
@@lila7663 I wouldn't be so sure. Remember that time worked differently in the Vault earlier in the season. So it's possible they also all jump 152 years into the future to the next crisis.
@rebel6293 7 ай бұрын
@@lila7663she'll likely be put to sleep. The ship they fled on has no jump capability so they probably will sleep
@rentristandelacruz 7 ай бұрын
The Mule: "I saw her again. She visited me in a thousand dreams. Now she's here ... in our time ... at my throat. I have to find Gaal Dornick ... before she finds me. I have to destroy her ... even if I have to burn everything to do it." The Mule sounds scared (and angry at/hateful) of Gaal. Those "thousand dreams" (of Gaal) seem to be nightmares for the Mule. The Mule had those dreams before that scene, before he said "Now she's here ... in our time", before Gaal waking up in the Mule's time period. My guess is that the situation is sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Gaal wakes up from cryo-sleep from time to time to train the mentalics, help build the Second Foundation, and prepare for the Mule. During her waking time, Gaal projects her consciousness into the future to look for (information about) the Mule. The man who will become the Mule, who is also a strong telepath, passively detects Gaal's consciousness projections as dreams. The man who will become the Mule saw in his dreams that there is this person called Gaal and an organization called the Second Foundation that are preparing to fight him. This man then tried to gain as much power as he can and became the Mule in order to fight Gaal and her Second Foundation.
@luciaceba4640 7 ай бұрын
likely, hence the whole thing about a if you have a bigdata model about predicting the future and have knowledge of it, you basically make those presictions come true... buuut even without them a variation of the same events would have happened anyway.. the conclusionas are always inevitable, but the road to it might change similar to how salvor died... she died, but when gaal thought... bit like in Dune.. prescience shows a symbolic future, you still have to interpret them
@aawillma 7 ай бұрын
Yep, just like Hober Mallow. They got the information from the future and in trying to figure out what the information meant, they made it happen. It's circular and self-fulfilling.
@revstrading 7 ай бұрын
Interesting theory and twist!
@wd2989 7 ай бұрын
I Hope thé show doesn’t do that. I want The Mule to have conquest motivations of his own, independent of Gaal. I do not want a “Gaal -centric” story.
@fernandogarajalde4066 7 ай бұрын
14:01 something about Demerzel’s love for her Cleon reminds me of the two stars of “The Creation of the Humanoids” who eventually realize they are neither truly human nor truly synthetic beings. I’ve always suspected this was one of Asimov’s subtle plot twists that was revealed in the novels released after his death: that one can achieve salvation through love.
@1971ahtom 7 ай бұрын
Agree 100%.. the "Harry is alive" reveal was done right. Surprising.. but if you look back, it's kind of all there. Big kudos to the show! Usually big reveals like this are obvious or ludicrous.
@Uouttooo 6 ай бұрын
But why would they bring him back with a body just to kill him again? What is the point of that?
@AerielFerguson 7 ай бұрын
When demerzel revealed the secrets she knew I figured that she spied on the guests through their dressing mirrors as she and Day did to Bel Riose and Glaywen when Bel was getting his hair cut.
@navad108 7 ай бұрын
I thought that how they saved everyone on Terminus was a lot better than a lot of people predicted with it being an illusion by the mentalics since their timeline was not the same as the others. Though, I'm guessing that vault Hari did some rearranging of particles and all the survivors are copies or something - which would explain why Constance's dad was not bleeding to death there on the vault ship.
@scifiguy810 7 ай бұрын
That's what I was thinking. Are those actually the survivors or did he copy their minds to clone them?
@revstrading 7 ай бұрын
it probably time passed on the vault and healed constance dad wounds
@GarethBowen 7 ай бұрын
Given the disperse nature of the colony from the Vault and Glawen being more so, unless the vault has some form of (previously undisclosed) Teleport/transporter technology (other than castling ) I am with your thought that they are clones (although bit quick to have them full grown esp Glawen) or more likely "holograms" or some other trickery of the tesseract/vault storing their data.
@freebird6591 7 ай бұрын
My theory was everyone was castled/teleported away by foundation tech or spacers, but it was Hari and the ship. Still think it was via the castling technology.
@navad108 7 ай бұрын
@@GarethBowen Early in the season when Constance and others went in the Vault and Hari was saying how all the objects including food were just particles rearranged (“you taste great”). I assume it was more of this. We saw the ground cracking open and people falling into it so I don’t know another way they would have survived normally.
@beadragon1048 7 ай бұрын
Amazing season overall, I preferred ep 9 to the finale but it was still impressive and has set up Season 3 perfectly. This was hands down Lady Demerzels season and the actress was mesmerizing to watch here. The emotional conflict she grappled with against her inner turmoil and hatred for the situation Cleon 1 put her in was fascinating to watch. Hari definitely wanted her to take the radiant with her to Trantor, clearly that puts him front and center for what Empire will be up to. It was a little strange not to see bodies after Demerzel leaves Rue and Dawn in the prison, also she puts the electronic bars back on as she leaves, why would she need to do this if they are dead? Thank you again for your dedication and hard work bringing us your reviews and commentary each week Pete! Looking forward to more content while we wait for Season 3! I absolutely love this series!!!! 🤓👏👏👏
@LordPaulusCobris 7 ай бұрын
Well that was an misplacement for sure... they are really dead! And its inconsequencial because of the time jump to S3.
@evilydal 7 ай бұрын
They dead
@kloseshot1154 7 ай бұрын
Very few shows give you full immersion and excitement to watch every week. This show is a gem.
@MAYK1NG 7 ай бұрын
I just can’t get past the Mentallics having lived on this planets for generations, they have weapons and incredible powers yet no handy first aid for Salvor bleeding out, no homes, no insight into craftsmanship - just living in dirty white rags amongst lava rock.
@Ray03595 7 ай бұрын
They're all under the control of Tellum and the reality is she was only looking out for herself the whole time. Not to mention since they're hiding they aren't going to other planets for trade so are limited to what's on the planet.
@MAYK1NG 7 ай бұрын
@@Ray03595 For sure but the production ‘cheaped out’ on giving the audience a rich background and it was constantly noticeable to me - irritating in fact. Have you watched ‘The Wheel of Time’? This production is ‘Foundation’s antithesis. While ‘Foundation’ has a wonderful layered storyline, superlative writing, top tier casting etc…’The Wheel of Time’ is shockingly superior for costume and sets design and I mean - kills it. So, it can be done, should be done!
@Ray03595 7 ай бұрын
@@MAYK1NG I do watch that show and I understand what you mean now. Yea, the sets can feel quite small sometimes and more can be done to make some of the towns and cities more "lived in".
@poneill65 7 ай бұрын
The young actor playing Josiah has a bright future. He had a real presence about him, a wise beyond his years bearing to him.
@Soussdagoose 7 ай бұрын
It was poetic that Dusk and Rue had to die in order for Dawn and Sareth to live 🤔
@PetePeppers1 7 ай бұрын
It was a fun season and everything Demerzel was great in this final run of episodes. So much to think about and Season 3 can't get here fast enough. Let me know what you think. Season 2 Finale Discussion with Showrunner David S. Goyer kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oN2hmdeTt86ng3k.html Season 2 Wrap Up with Jim and A.Ron from Bald Move - kzfaq.infozk6ziULdeVU?feature=share
@TheGrumpyChairman 7 ай бұрын
Well, this just makes the strike all the more vexing. Anyhoo - don't really agree on the fake-out: the only question is whether it was earned (my bet was the null field being expanded and some visual showiness to make Poly's in ep2 look childish). I think it was set up, carefully in stages and thoroughly earned. To just kill the Foundation would have been such a break from the source as to be truly divisive, whereas this just leaves quibbling over writerly things, about which civilised people can disagree. Whedon once said you have to have a toll (hence Anya in Chosen), but the flip side of that is you have to have survivors too - because the story needs witnesses.
@TheGrumpyChairman 7 ай бұрын
Also, it occurs to me that not being sure that what is in front of you really is absolutely critical to set up before Magnifico hoves into view...
@RafaelbySuzannah 7 ай бұрын
irony, Day is told he's so predictable when Day told Harry his predictions were incorrect;-- Day told HRi his choices proof; a double irony. (it's really hard for me to come, and I am a victim of a violent crime punched in the head had to get surgery my redness I'm trying my best to communicate.
@RafaelbySuzannah 7 ай бұрын
Super sad I don't know why I'm having such a hard time here commenting - bizarre. I am a victim of a violent crime and I was going to be arrested if I didn't rob charges and the day after emergency surgery from the attack. I had surgery on my Retina. I'm running punch. I don't know when I go to post the changes and from my phone I cannot delete or edit.
@seldoncrisis6694 7 ай бұрын
Pete - I am so glad you share my dissatisfaction with the magical vault rescue. I feel that they're making a mistake by making it effectively unlimited in its powers. How are we supposed to believe the stakes as they are presented in the next crisis? Also, I agree that they negated the tragic sacrifice of the populace of Terminus, particularly Sermak and Poly. But Glawen was really too much. What purpose can there be in bringing him back after Bel is gone? I did love almost everything about the season and all of your wonderful commentary. Thanks for making the effort to bring it to us.
@AdamBrown1980 7 ай бұрын
That was truly a FANTASTIC episode, finale and season!! Laura Birn was phenomenal in her performance!! Lee Pace was amazing again!! In the words of Day, “I FUCKING LOVE IT!” 🔥🔥
@suedamato8080 7 ай бұрын
Such a moment!!
@desifooddiaries5890 7 ай бұрын
excellent season but finale not good...yes but how did the ship made from harrys body/mass house alll the living physical poeple inside..esp when they showed us explosions of planet...and ooh spacers wer actually in on it...expectatiosn siverted...wow...and oh hari didnt actually die and all the super mutants mutants esp the lady who is 1000 yrs old who can heart heart and brain waves couldnt tell they knew harry was saved OH BECUASE PRIME NUMBERS COUNTING doh i see!! amazing !!!
@eden20111 7 ай бұрын
I’m really glad they didn’t show the deaths of Dusk and Rue by the hands of Dermezel. God that would be so brutal. I really hope it was quick for them 😢
@PetePeppers1 7 ай бұрын
I imagine she's pretty efficient. Didn't seem like Dawn suffered in the S1 finale.
@tosvus Ай бұрын
@@PetePeppers1 so, and I probably just missed this but..., I take it any current iteration of Day she has to protect, and nobody else?
@mrJety89 7 ай бұрын
I thought that the big reveal would be that Cleon I would be vicariously living through his exponents as a digital copy, who could sometimes take over their bodies, just like Harry Seldon did, but without them noticing, Because they were carefully curated to be the same person essentially. The biggest clue to this end to me was the big difference in the size of their memories. It was as if Cleon I had new memories added to him, which would, over the centuries made his memory file unusually large. And sometimes his holograms behaved as if they had a mind of their own, especially when dawn and dusk confronted his hologram, but got this mysterious answer about him knowing, and "it is all accounted for" etc.
@wayando 7 ай бұрын
The robot empress survived the fleet destruction very narrowly ... I wonder if the whole thing with Cleon would have played the same way had she remained.
@luiousy7329 7 ай бұрын
holy crap that was pure chance
@aaronia8092 7 ай бұрын
Before leaving, she told Bel Riose that she expected something from him, and that's why she chose him; I think she wanted him to disobey Day and knew Day would then be in danger. She couldn't put him in danger directly, but tried to end his reign (his life) by seeking indirect ways to do it.
@wayando 7 ай бұрын
@@aaronia8092 ... I don't think she had a way of knowing how things were going to end, even if she stacked the deck, Cleon was too strong. If the General would have disobeyed he would be dead ... The fleet destruction is what defeated Cleon.
@TheGrumpyChairman 7 ай бұрын
@@luiousy7329 Nah, I reckon the spacers (possibly on a tip form Hari) warned her that if she stayed both she and Day would die, and that if she tried save him they would trigger early and Empire would fall. That is why she felt so able to dis Day - he was no longer the power, but a dead sperm walking.
@tysotope 7 ай бұрын
you late man gahdamn! Ive been suffering through emotionless unintelligible analysis of the episode for the last 12 hours.. finally real insight
@wonjoomin 7 ай бұрын
For me, this season had its great moments and its wtf moments. Although I liked S1 better as whole, S2 gave us Demerzel and its complex dynamic relationship with Empire which I loved. Hope S3 comes back with proper writing and production that this show deserves!!
@_Patobot 7 ай бұрын
"For all those who fight and ask why" Dude, what a great line.
@mariocastro9780 7 ай бұрын
Bel Riose - exceptional acting
@marknovak6498 7 ай бұрын
I waited 18 year to open a 2004 Bordeax Wine. It went bad, and I could relate to the frustration.
@Lightwish01 7 ай бұрын
EASTER EGG!! When Constance is in the Cleaning Pod literally minutes from death as her air supply is about to run out she says a prayer to the Spirit "My eye's are the Spirits eyes and may they only see the future" and I kid you not, her EYES TURN GOLD!! Go ahead and flip to the prayer scene in the pod, anyone can watch it and this is a detail 99% of viewers are going to completely miss, but it definitely hints towards something supernatural or special about Constance. She was adopted and she never would reveal her real name.....who is SHE??? Her eyes are Gold color for just this scene and prayer but turn back to normal after the prayer finishes.
@d3r4g0d8 18 күн бұрын
Maybe she is Fallom
@deborah8056 7 ай бұрын
Demerazel isn’t a normal robot I think she’s evolved and she has a soul that’s what Lady Halima said in Season 1. That’s how I think the Robots were able to break the rules of Robotics. I think Kale is also a Robot like demerazel but she’s hiding on Una’s world and the new Harry is like her too!
@Uouttooo 6 ай бұрын
But if the new Harry is a robot, wouldn't Gaal be able to tell? Can they psychic link with a robot?
@c-130turbo3 7 ай бұрын
Now this is a show, with an amazing writing staff, they played the long game from episode one, the set up and pay off of seemingly random items and situations, like the casteling device, the mark on hobers which we all knew was something, but what? just flawless a great show a great season, made all the more better with Petes after show!
@theharbinger00 7 ай бұрын
This show is by far the best thing that's come out in years
@theroadhomefromwrestling1788 7 ай бұрын
I really liked the finale. It went in satisfying directions I wasn’t expecting. However, episode 9 was by far the very best episode of Foundation yet. The whole show is worth watching just to get to 9.
@nfineon 7 ай бұрын
The empire still can build _"slow ships"_ which do travel faster than light by quite a bit. According to the show, The Raven slow ship traveled 50,000 ly in 1,878 days (to Termnius). So 50,000 ly / 1878 days = 26.62 ly / day 26.63 ly / 24 hours = 1.11 ly / hour 9,716 light days / day 233,191 light hours / hour 13.99m light minutes / minute 839.5m light seconds / second 839.5x million times the speed of light is actually faster than StarTrek warp factor 9.9, but slower than StarWars fastest ships. That will certainly slow empire down a lot but its only a matter of time before they replicate Foundation jump tech OR they figure out other warp speed methods.
@scpatl4now 7 ай бұрын
...or they stagnate and find themselves unable to achieve any technological improvement because they are now so cut off from all the places that would participate in the science.
@PatriceL 7 ай бұрын
I'm guessing this somehow leads to the "Twenty agricultural worlds were a Galactic Empire!" quote from Second Foundation, where Neotrantor is the new capital, with a degenerate emperor descendant of Cleon (guessing this time it'll be the 3 clones but even more drifting from their original DNA/personalities)
@darrylmars 7 ай бұрын
Best show on TV by far. Writing & acting are what counts, producers making good decisions putting budget on the screen. Need more ASAP.
@mintakan003 7 ай бұрын
Demerzel is a cold blooded killer. Yet I have so much sympathy for her. She's operating on what, (according to her), is a kind of "logical necessity" (programming, duty, ...). Brother Day (Lee Pace) and Tellem were outstanding, as delicious villains. S2 is so much better than S1, because of the emotional complexity of all the characters. Foundation S2 has turned into one of the best recent TV Sci Fi around, though I suspect, not many people may know about it.
@bradleywoods1999 7 ай бұрын
Amazing season, 10/10. The whole thing was fantastic but those last three episodes were fire. Many questions were answered but many still remain and new ones were added, I cannot wait to see were they go in season 3. P.S I hope in a future season we find out who destoryed the starbridge. Obviously it happened centuries ago and doesn't matter at this point in terms of the story, but I'd still like to find out who was the culprit.
@deezuschrist9794 7 ай бұрын
Would be nuts if it was Demerzel but that would make sense
@bradleywoods1999 7 ай бұрын
@@deezuschrist9794 to be honest demerzel is at the top of my list, even more so after the final few epsiodes. We learnt just how far she is programmed to go to protect the dynasty, nothing is of limits.
@MadKieranM 7 ай бұрын
Just have to say thank you for doing these videos every week Pete they really help digest the show, I come here straight after watching every episode. I hope you continue to cover this show until it ends your breakdowns and inside knowledge.
@ctvxl 7 ай бұрын
I will admit, I felt a bit betrayed when they revealed Paulie in the vault. Showing him in the previous episode just seconds from being swallowed up by the cracking ground, then showing him alive and well inside the vault is just too much. I don't really mind the idea of saving everyone in the vault, but that felt like a very cheap, underhanded way to go about it. I really do hope they revisit how that was possible in season 3. I could forgive it if they were to reveal that the vault has the ability to instantly transport people over long distances or something similar. But this would open up a new trap that I think they are already in danger of falling into: That the vault itself is just too overpowered. If it can survive such powerful destruction, and do such amazing things, then why not just build a fleet of vaults, conquer Empire, and be done with it? Still, overall, I am loving this series. Some of the best sci-fi I have seen in a very LONG time.
@FutureAllenNL 7 ай бұрын
I was fine with Paulie surviving because he was close to the vault and could have been taken in from that distance but then then everyone showing up was too cheap. As much as I dreaded the idea that everyone had died it was also something that gave me a conflicted feeling of having to sacrifice for the greater good.
@raymondrembert6870 7 ай бұрын
That’s because the foundations job isn’t to defeat empire; empire is going to fall irregardless. Foundations job is to ensure that the aftermath of the fall doesn’t destroy humanity.
@mariar3767 7 ай бұрын
For me it was the fact that at the "church" Day ordered everyone killed and scientist taken but somehow everyone was still on the vault . At least some scientist should be on the ship with Day .
@ctvxl 7 ай бұрын
@@mariar3767 Very good point! I had this thought as well the other day. I assume the few scientists that happened to be in the church that day were taken to the ship and died along with Day and everyone else?? We really don't know, and I doubt they will ever reveal it. In the grand scheme I supposed it doesn't really matter, as I seriously doubt every scientist on the planet was in the church that day...
@lossless4129 7 ай бұрын
Dude this season was insane! So good
@mattgilbert7347 7 ай бұрын
The last 3 episodes were absolute bangers. Great stuff, equally enjoyed the breakdowns and analyses from you, Pete. Cheers!
@TheOnylove 7 ай бұрын
Your reviews and explanation of Foundation episodes are one of the best. Most just recap the episode. I want to process what I saw in that episode. Not be told a recap of the episode. Looking forward to finishing your talk with David for episode 9 and eagerly waiting for what will be said for episodes 10!
@michaelinyanguko7060 7 ай бұрын
I love the fact that day's downfall wasn't caused by the fact that he was weak or stupid but his ego instead
@alvinchoquet5761 7 ай бұрын
I frankly loved it. It's not perfection, it has flaws sure, but it's by far the best show i've watched in a while. The character work is just great. I disliked both Salvor and Hober on introduction, but they grew on me and I legit felt bad for Salvor dying ( I was certain they would NEVER kill her ) and Hober grew to be my favorite character. The portrayal of emperor and demerzel are so great and they play with the idea of the genetic dynasty so well, there's nothing like this out there. On the matter of the "fakout", I truly didn't see it like this. I frankly thought they were all dead and that we would move on but somehow seldon rolled a natural 20 in deception, actually cared about them all and had planned this outcome from the getgo, and I felt happy that were not dead even though I didn't care that much about them to begin with. It's been a while i've been truly enjoying a show, but this one has something special. I felt a bit disappointed by the relationship between cleon the first and Demerzel. She's just forced to love him ( while he apparently genuinely loves her ). It still opens up a whole kind of new possibilities, the main one being that noone is actually in control of the empire, noone has actual freewill in the downfall of the empire, which is actually kind of a shame if you think about it. I guess I imagined some sort of sacred love story, When Cleon the first was some unique kind of guy, a worthy emperor that would deserve that the only robot left in existence devotes itself to him. That the robot itself was certain it was doing the right things for the right reasons. Meh, missed opportunity I guess. Doesn't take away from what we got. That being said; Alongside with "For all Mankind" which is its own kind of special thing, I feel like AppleTV might be onto the right path. My deep appreciation for the writers for this season. Those last 3 episodes were epic and elevated the show to another level! Also you're one of the few out there that breakdown those shows, like noone actually appreciates them ? But you do , so nice
@theantoneric 7 ай бұрын
Although I guessed the ending I HATE that they killed salvor!
@matthewmccarty6508 7 ай бұрын
Bro, just want to say you’re the best that does it. Hands-down, my favorite recaps and it’s all the shows that I watch coincidently. Keep it up.
@jaybain4337 7 ай бұрын
The Foundation Season 2 finale I've been waiting for! I watched all your ads to support the channel... Thanks Pete! Great show!
@tastrs7121 7 ай бұрын
That was satisfying, I have to retract my critique of last week's episode. Sad about Salvor..
@grahamhenderson65 7 ай бұрын
What an ending for that season.
@tone6895 7 ай бұрын
The ultimate tragedy: Demerzel is forever a prisoner to empire. She is empire. Thus, she is forever a prisoner to herself. Simultaneously ultimate antagonist and protagonist.
@saturnv2419 7 ай бұрын
I have a feeling in the next season there will be a Galactic civil war when there are two Dawns at the same time claiming to be the next Emperor.
@DanFarrell98 7 ай бұрын
Would be so cool if we see Dawn’s descendants in the next season, maybe as a rival to Empire
@jesse7631 7 ай бұрын
I don't think that Season 3 will start off 152 years in the future; I imagine that we'll have a story line that shows how the Mule starts out and the results of his influence on others. I think that will at least be part of the third season arc.
@wahyuagengrahino 7 ай бұрын
Or 152 years could potentially happen in S4 while S3 having a building story towards that and also continouing the current problems
@jondoe1444 7 ай бұрын
The mule's origin will most likely be in an episode in season 3
@theunwantedcritic 7 ай бұрын
Best science-fiction show on television right now
@willbelfield7524 7 ай бұрын
A season that grew and grew. Much as I adored the first season this outshone it in every regard and I can’t wait to see where it takes us next.
@B4umkuchen 7 ай бұрын
That Plot Twist with Harry feels rather convoluted and cheap. It's like a child telling you that his pet dog died in a tragedy to elicit some attention from you but then calling you a fool for falling for the lies he just made up to shock you.
@carolbriscoe9337 6 ай бұрын
Regardless of your analysis of the deceptions, I found the acting this season to be outstanding. Lee Pace raised his to a whole other level. I do hope Apple nominates him for an Emmy
@mediaalchemist 7 ай бұрын
I’ve enjoyed your videos so much! Keep up the great work!! Quick question: if time is different inside the vault and we have a reference of Hober Mallow saying he had been inside the vault for two days when it had been 5min outside the vault, does this mean that the 152 years that have passed outside the vault are roughly 1,870 years inside he vault (triple the amount of ‘time’ that the Cleons have been around? This could be interesting for next season.
@cancelebi8939 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this season's journey more entertaining!
@ZeroFPV 7 ай бұрын
The thing with Glenn was so bad because it felt like it took forever to be resolved, especially since the episodes were dragging on until then. In this case, the matter was resolved in the very next episode and somehow fits with the whole rest of the season.
@alvinchoquet5761 7 ай бұрын
Yeah i didn't like the comparison either. Glenn was a special character to the audience, terminus population is not (comparison would be perhaps Gaal/Salvor in relation to what he means as a core foundation of the show) They did Glenn dirty by pretending to kill him on a stupid event, made it all dramatic, made us wait for 6 filler episodes, and revealed it was bullshit all along while we all knew it from the beginning and would just like to get it over with. Then they killed him at the end of the season on what seems to be a fuck you to the audience. This is geniunely when I lost interest in the show, it was just that bad. This is "oh these people you probably don't care about that much ? Yeah, Seldon saved them all, it was actually the plan all along and you had no idea about it". This is just not comparable dude. I don't get why you would even feel like it's the same.
@Genetherapy3232 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for all the great breakdowns! This show is so much more enjoyable because of your contributions. Can’t wait for next season:) Thank you❤
@grantdexter6680 7 ай бұрын
Incredible TV, we haven't had in years - and is an example of the power we all possess (human beings) to tell great stories. It reminds me of the red wedding season of GOT a bit, when everyone piled aboard - I'm getting that same feeling like, we have a hit here folks. Character's with "Honour or belief" in hope, and living up that quality, giving their lives for a future good that means nothing to them right now really, was not only delightful to watch, but has some synchronicities with present day. Hobar and Bel, and Salvor's sacrifices were incredible inside the story arc, and incredible performances by the actors. Even Dusk's move, had some meaning beyond the obvious - he might have actually loved Dawn (or did she know that he did it, and that's why she turned her head - to bypass her programming but give Dawn some time to think). And WOW what a performance by Laura Birn, and the rest of the cast isn't far behind - Leah Harvey, Lou Llobell Lee Pace, Jarrid Harris, Bilton, Mann, Daniels, Smith, Laughland, Sencindiver, Shekoni, Foss(boy he's always good), Ghir (Poly), and the amazing Dimitri Leonidas. Bravo all. And Goyer and the team. Forget the all the weight, and take a bow give yourself a hug - you did good.
@smosmo4617 7 ай бұрын
1 of the best seasons of TV I have ever seen . This show is gonna blow up . My own radiant says season 3 #'s are going to exponentially increase .
@blackgirlcouchreviews 7 ай бұрын
Exactly, Pete. I was fine with people surviving the Vault but those characters on the planet left should have died. They knew Empire was coming so an evacuation of most the residents makes sense and the Vault surviving but Glaywen and everyone else just ok with even Sermaks wound healed was a touch too optimistic. It would have been better played to sacrifice them but the majority survives. My own critique and Laura Birn really does much for this show as well as Lee Pace
@kilgary 7 ай бұрын
I tend to agree. The dad, Poly and Glawen all had moving deaths in the last episode and it feels like we were robbed of those through the Deux Ex Machina nature of Dr. Seldon and his vault. It makes the first Foundation feel over powered. It would be nice if enough of Terminus survived to carry on the mission of the first Foundation without ALL of them surviving to the point where their character redemptions were meaningless. Like Hober, their contributions were complete and their survival won’t materially impact the plan anyway. All it did was weaken the “Red Wedding” feel from episode 9. I still liked season 2 a lot more than season 1 and look forward to the conflict with the Mule!
@JohnnyZenith 7 ай бұрын
Disagree. We saw deaths elsewhere and the fact that everyone had been saved was very impactful. It showed the sheer depth of failure of Empire.@@kilgary
@joso7228 7 ай бұрын
Glawen had scars on his face. Sermak did not have a deadly knife wound. That is inconsistent screenwriting.
@eden20111 7 ай бұрын
@@JohnnyZenithagreed 100%
@captainyossarian388 7 ай бұрын
All great actors on this show, but they really lucked out with the actors chosen to portray the Cleons and Demerzel. Kudos to Cassian Bilton (Dawn), Terrence Mann (Dusk/Cleon the First), and of course Lee Pace (Day) and Laura Birn (Demerzel).
@PriscilaTV1 7 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly on the three reveals. Thank you for your amazing coverage and looking forward to your next videos!
@TweezerShred 7 ай бұрын
Confused why the guards would attack dawn? Seems too risky for them. Especially if Day didn't give the order.
@michaelinyanguko7060 7 ай бұрын
I'm probably wrong for saying this but day's death was so satisfying
@johnjenkins9445 7 ай бұрын
it would be, but you know noone is allowed to die in this show :/
@IvanAgram 7 ай бұрын
One of the best SF tv shows. Loved the books 30+ years ago love this take also. Sure it is fifferent but for TV show it is great.
@thomaswayne1852 7 ай бұрын
My take, k brother Pete? I thought some on Terminus would be saved. I thought "time" would be used to explain. I do accept your criticism and agree that the depicted explanation requires a bit of, shall we say, faith. Gaal hiding things was clear when she told Salvor she didn't have to trust them but, she had to trust her. Hober's mark and the Spacers were left to be concluded here logically. And I genuinely felt for Demerzel. What a performance! ^^ Overall, I find this culmination satisfying. The bit about the Vault can do wonderous many things aside ^^"
@andrefreeman7025 7 ай бұрын
19:05 I interpret that scene, as the moment Demerezel realizes that there is a living baby inside the princes, the programming will allow her to let them live, cause the baby is technically of Cleon, so she doesn't need to kill them. I think Demerezel was secretly happy for them at that moment.
@themidcentrist 7 ай бұрын
I was thinking along the lines that Dawn had basically given up his claim to the throne, and was leaving Trantor to (hopefully) live happily ever after. "He doesn't need to rule, he needs to be loved". He is out of the picture and has been replaced.
@Ray03595 7 ай бұрын
Also think he was right that killing Dawn and Sareth would've been unpopular and risked the Empire's longevity. Using the clones is the easier option.
@trancemutator5393 7 ай бұрын
And brother dawn got to ride off into the sunset with the girl. Though, I don’t know if anyone got the paradox of that statement. And probably a next season, we will see the rapid decline of the empire, because they no longer have the spacers to rely on.
@kevindelaney1951 7 ай бұрын
Excellent summary. Really helpful. Thank you.
@poliver1980 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for your videos Pete. Youve really enhanced my enjoyment of this season, which I thought was excellent overall
@tomasvrabec1845 7 ай бұрын
She deserves an Oscar for this show. Absolutely baffling
@Uouttooo 6 ай бұрын
For the last time, Oscars are for movies and Emmies are for TV shows. It is not rocket science.
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