Also the nod to the third doctor frilly shift and velvet jacket

Firsts brolly as well

Back then, "Easter Eggs" were called "References."

maggPi Prime back then, the 2nd doctor was called the ‘second’ doctor

@@maggpiprime954 Also, an Easter Egg, when they eventually started using the term, used to refer to obscure bits you had to search for in order to find them, not an obvious reference shoved in your face ;).

They had a great relationship but the chemistry between Tom Baker and Romana 2 (Lalla Ward) was electric and very saucy, in a discreet sort of way. Possibly helped by the fact that they were in a relationship in real life at the time.

thats freaky, having just watched this thats exactly what i thought.

The moment she said he had impeccable taste I knew why

The 4th doctor was my favourite that I grew up with. I even have a 4th doctor scarf!

I thought it was at 1:27 when SJ licks and sucks the tip of the recorder.

In all the episodes I have seen so far (mostly modern) they have only shown the control room which makes me sad because I want to see more of the TARDIS!

The TARDIS wasn't really shown very much during Doctor Who's original run. In fact, before the 4th Doctor you barely got out of the console room. And shortly after Peter Davison's first season, again you barely saw the rest of the TARDIS - not even the whole console room for Sylvester McCoy's last season. So it is primarily the 4th Doctor's tenure that enlarged the TARDIS. Therefore NuWho is not so different old series. Mostly the TARDIS's huge interior is just alluded to. We get to see a wardrobe in The Christmas Invasion. But The Doctor's Wife & Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS (both Matt Smith stories) do give a reasonable view.

To be fair, the TARDIS has to be somewhat of a home for the Doctor as they practically live in it now.

@@schubertuk we did see Susan's bedroom in a very early episode. (S01E12 - The Edge Of Destruction)

@Jimbob1708 JTTCOTT had almost no round-things in it :(

Well given that we only have one episode per story now we don't have the time classic who can do it because they take stories that would take about two episodes and then deliberately draw them out

What, the pool and the library weren't showy enough?

@@PiDsPagePrototypesnot really.

@@paris-1911 :D

@@PiDsPagePrototypes D:

The show "Father Ted" channeled that scene when Ted used a plastic cow to try to explain to Dugal the difference between small and far away. 😁

The panels got warped while in storage between seasons.

I agree, that console room perfectly fit the 'gothic horror' vibe the early seasons of Tom's run was going for.

I remember reading an interview with (I think) Robert Holmes, who said that they intended to use the wood paneled console room in the 15th season ("Horror of Fang Rock" to "Invasion of Time"), but that in between seasons, the set was dismantled and put into a storage unit that got flooded by a rainstorm. The paneling had gotten warped and it would cost too much money to repair, so they just had the Doctor go back to the original console room. Truly a pity.

Although it's only seen in FOUR stories (and only maybe five episodes in total) it was THE Tardis set for MONTHS when the show was on once a week for 22 minutes. I LIKE to think that the TV MOVIE Tardis Set is the same room after some reconfiguring, mainly because of the console. It is, after all, the primary console room- SOMETHING THEY FORGOT WHEN THEY INTRODUCED THE FUGITIVE DOCTOR !

Hold my planer and tin of special brew, I'm going in...

As if Tom Baker's afro wasn't also cool!

Christopher Walken: “I’m not hearing enough cowbell! More cowbell!”

@@collegeman1988 we got recorder instead.

Considering the Eighties fetish with faux wood panels on everything from cars to gaming consoles, they were just ahead of their time a bit.

Technically it's Grown not so much built!!! 🤠👍

Late 3 and 4 could pilot the tardis rather well all things considered it was just that the tardis herself became dodgy when it came to navigation it’s why the 5th doctor replaced the console in the 5 doctors trying to get her up to running order

...always leaving the 'parking brake' on because he liked the noise it made.

@@witchdoctor1394 then every time lord must like that noise then

@@jordanreed3675 well they all make the voorp noise, and each model has a slightly different tone. It is the extra and very distinct whine and grind in addition to the voorp that the Doctor's TARDIS makes, especially when taking off, that is distinct. I think it also kind of becomes a joke among the renegades to do it too, either that or it is just one of least necessary things to do to dematerialize/materialize so they just don't bother when flying alone...

The Master's TARDIS usually materialized/dematerialized silently, as did a few others. It was River Song that made the crack about 'leaving the parking brake on' once and made a time/space jump without the noise and the (Matt Smith) Doctor got pissy about it. "I rather like the noise..."

Those barriers around the console will show up again in the 9th and 10th doctors Tardis. I assume RTD did that on purpose.

I always wondered, if you use the secondary or alternative control room, how come you're still right at the front Tardis door?

There's probably a Clara wandering about, looking for her bedroom.

@@GenniBGood Probably once the TARDIS realized they’d be using the secondary control room she made another exit door there are switched the control rooms around. The TARDIS is very flexible.

I still wonder why the third doctor was stripped to the waist in this control room? Probably practicing his martial arts...😂

*recorder

The ruffled shirt was a Third Doctor thing. The recorder was a Second Doctor thing.

@@CoalDiamondandhisawesomeness *_#NERRRRRD_*

*@CoalDiamond- TheMagicRogue **_#NERRRRRD_*

and then lick it :)

It’s time lord technology. Don’t question it.

@@jrsiv4462 It's Time Lord glue...but still don't question it. I enjoyed that more than the entire last 2 seasons.

@@billstorie5161 Nah, It's a time lord reverse magnet! It sticks to anything except metal!

@@gwendragon6419 It could be just screwed down...

“4 of you, and not one of you thought of this” Just drop a reference there

Yeah, that was their intention. Unfortunately, it proved to be rather unpopular with viewers at the time and so it was quickly scrapped. Pity, because quite a bit of of time & $$$ went into it...

@@MrPGC137 Actually it was because the set got damaged in storage from wood warping.

@@lorddalek If you say so. The version I heard however is the correct one. Have a nice day.

@@MrPGC137 well the secondary control room isn't popular but the most common version of why it went off was because it was warped you know cuz it was cheap wood paneling and I feel like wood paneling isn't something you could do easily on a BBC budget so even if people didn't like it they would keep it the entire back wall for the one of the second doctor tortoises were literally just photographs of the first doctor's Tardis like the photographic roundoff but also a third blown up photograph of the fault locator

I could notice a difference in quality from interior scenes to exterior shots on an analog NTSC display

We had nothing to compare it to. To us, each time some creator has an idea for a neat visual effect, it was worth looking at just for itself. None of us thought "Oh, yes, THAT is what reality looks like". Even things like the view being the point of view of a Cyber-mat, down on the floor and limited in its focus, were interesting.

Well, back in the day, people also used something called imagination. I think film makers and TV producers have gotten too heavily into making really cool explosions on a computer and forgotten how to tell a good story. (Oh. And one more thing, the special effects on doctor who were crappy even for that time period. It was part of the shows charm.)

not to mention the F/X budget was what was found in a hat after they passed it around.

@@KarlRoyale I remember hearing that once during the thom baker years that one episode had a fx budget of less than £50.

That would have been pretty awesome

Check and see if it fell down in the force field generator again!

"Thank you! I was wondering where that had got to! You haven't been trying to play this, have you? Oh! I can see you've been doing the TARDIS up a bit! I don't like it."

He probably would have agreed to do it too.

bro, fuck you, im a full grown ass adult and i fucking love this shit still.

@@HeyItzZedd ikr, the love never dies

@@HeyItzZedd language, Timothy, language!

Something we've lacked for a lobg time.

that's because it wasn't overused.. so it was really novel...

I enjoy hearing this, what with you not growing up with the classic series. I find it neat to see that what we liked then still resonates today.

Grew up on pbs airings of Doctor Who from the Pertwee/Baker era. Tom will always be MY doctor. Though now Capaldi is my 2nd fave. The forcing of PC hot garbage aside you never had a better actor in the role. The kind of thing that #6 Colin Baker (no relation) was aiming for. Gruff but becomes more open later. As a charachter study its great stuff. Especially heaven sent!! Might be the greatest script. Goes through the stages of grief so well. Well 10 more seasons of who were great addition.

To me Tom Baker's Doctor was like something out of Charles Dickens. He looked like a cross between Jeff Goldblum and Harpo Marx.

The Tenth Planet - I agree with you a lot as the Fourth Doctor is my fav of all the Doctors as he is soo funny , loving and Would you care for a Jelly Baby is great , my next fav classic would be the Five Doctor and from Morden Who it is The Tenth Doctor

@@wdd3141 Nah better than those 2 combined.

Yeah, I feel like there were a couple of things they could have done to make it look a tad less like coloured water with polystyrene balls draining out of a sink. Double-exposed the film with a backdrop of stars? Blow some smoke across the top? Put the camera out of focus a little? Literally anything other than what they did, which appears to be nothing at all...

Bare in mind that this was 'state-of-the-art' special effects back then! Even the spinning Tardis was just a small inch and a half (1.81cms) long painted wooden cube! Remember also the fearsome Daleks which looked better in black and white were in fact just composed of spare parts from Morris Minors, disco lights, and to top it! Whisks and toilet plungers!

@@sanchoodell6789 sounds like what i would make for my grade 5 school project.

@@sanchoodell6789 They had the ability to do a double-exposure, that alone would have made a major difference. They could have put a mask on the camera to make the swirl look smaller, and, therefore, make it seem more like an object suspended in the blackness of space. As I said, there are many things they could have done using inexpensive technology they had at the time.

Reminds me of Star Trek TOS special effects for the transporter - stirred class of water with glitter in it

it's my favourite, despite the fact that the shaving mirror was stuck on there at the last minute because they ran out of time and money to make a time rotor in the middle of the console.

Oh yeah the Masterpiece that was the '60s concert room and the mountain of buttons and controls that was the '80s one but no the best one is this vinyl wood piece of crap

I really disliked this one when it was first shown. I could never figure out how all the functions of the big console could be run from a couple of small panels.

You can see its influence in later years, too.

@@Benjiesbeenbetter. limited functions. I.e use only in emergancies

In a Jon Pertwee episode, she proudly proclaimed "I can sink anywhere!" The Doctor was taking her to a planet with effervescent water, and told her she wouldn't need waterwings!

Too right they are

Tom and Liz had the best Doctor/Campanion chemistry in the show's history.

The reason they avoid doing so was succinctly summed up by RTD - the whole point of the TARDIS is to "get to the story" - and really should be no more than a sort of camper van - minimum comfort - enough to survive - as soon as it becomes the story - the Doctor has less and less motivation to get out and adventure. They don't want the Doctor too comfortable in the TARDIS - they want him fidgeting, restless, and can't wait to land and go somewhere else.

You see so many TARDIS rooms in Classic Who! There's an entire First Doctor story where they never leave the TARDIS + there's a Fourth Doctor scene which takes the piss out of re-using sets due to budget lol.

@@martymclean3763 Which 4th Doctor scene is that?

@@schubertuk That excuse is utter bafflegab and nothing more. The motivation lies in the quest for knowledge the righting of wrongs on a cosmic scale and having a bit of fun in the process. There can still be the TARDIS herself(oh..my dear old thing..)that can become the story-or an integral part of it. And you need to look no further than the self quarantining and complaints that the wealthy and celebrities bemoan about being forced to remain in their opulent mansions completer with their own saunas,heated swimming pools,theaters and so on. And if they are itching to be able to leave such comforts then there is absolutely no issue of my wan-I mean "The Doctor" wanting to get out to explore and experience the wonders of all space/time and not simply lounge about inside of even the most luxurious interiors that the Tardis may have.

We do hear about parts of the Tardis in the newer series sometimes, even if we don't get to see it. We know there's a library, that may or may not have a swimming pool in it, a wardrobe with clothes to fit for all sorts of time periods, plus there's the fact that the companions have bedrooms of their own (which may have bunk beds with ladders, as well as disappear at the Tardis' will). I do like seeing the rooms from time to time, but I think if it happened all the time it would lose the novelty and excitement of those rare occurrences.

Who needs CGI?

as a vr game this would work well but for non vr we need a war doctor game where he's shown as the warrior/doctor no more charicter and its an fps with each level being a new place in space and time As a side note while were talking video games i love vr butt i dislike the idea of it replacing non vr i see vr as a seperate experiance and a novality that losesits fun if you play more than 3 hours a week on a regular basis)

I should think so Doctor! You did use it at one point in a VERY earlier incarnation 😉

Dakota Saunders feel free to call me Doctor Dimension 😂

Voltaic Fire who me? lol 😂

It seems to have more style then the first one before the Tardis went through a series of changes.

It’s cute looking but small.

Specifically the blue toilet water you get from caravans and motorhomes.

Don't forget the shirt and coat of the 3rd.

Lots of " missing stories" between tv serials has always been canon. Obviuoslly he has used the room from time to time. Probablly when deep in the tardis and this room closer.

I really like those obvious gaps between Doctor Who stories where each Doctor could have had an entire set of unseen adventures, makes the show look even bigger than it is, not just the stories we see every week on tv.

@@SammEaterI’m with u

@@SammEater I feel like that outlook's often necessitated by the show itself, like when it implies all the unseen adventures. Doesn't make it easy tho. You got the clips in "Rose" of 9 being seen in spots throughout history, despite his dalogue implying he's only just regenerated.

Oh? A solution for what? Haven't seen much of the old Who yet.

I always wanted to be Sarah Jane!

🤣🤣🤣

Ah the mysteries of the universe.

I think it's really charming and admirable how much they attempted to do with such limited resources. It gives the show a warmth I think it often lacks now.

That's just a coincidence.

A simplistic description of a' quadri-hexiaginal super conductive negative force,' but reasonably accurate.

@@colinharbinson8284 but he did not mention the tesseractive probabalistic curve...

Ruffled shirt

Totally agree with you. Tom had some great Campanion"s!

Patrick and Frazer for me.

Scared the hell out of me when I was a child. Also liked the chemistry between Sarah and Giuliano. Since she was forced to leave the Doctor one adventure later, I wonder if she regretted not staying behind with him in 15th Century Italy.

@@k1ng401 I doubt it, Sarah would have been so frustrated with 15th (?) Century life.

And filmed in the wonderful Portmeirion. Wonderful to see Clough Ellis's masterpiece being used to fool TV audiences.

It's difficult to recall but I think Mask of Mandragora was the first episode I ever saw when I was 3 or 4 years old and it was on PBS where they had the narrator do a preface to each episode.

@@RedSiegfried I miss those narrations!

Great idea!¡!

The new 'showruiners' would never...!!! Those are 'whuyte men'...☝😕

Semantics call him whatever the hell you want I don't care but doctor who Dr. Who and the doctor

The first crush for an entire generation of DOCTOR WHO fans... 😄

She was cute her entire life.

@@TheCastellan As Captain jack said "All the same, might I say looking good, ma'am?"

She was always cute, and beautiful.

@@IllustrationbyDesign I must be from an earlier generation because my FIRST crush was Jo Grant (Katie Manning) but lovely Liz wasn't far behind. Romana 1 and 2 were pretty damn gorgeous too.

True, this was kind of like today's TV shows with the size of "Warehouse 13" or the size of the library in the "Librarians".

Chibnall: "Even better, 13 finds two more and one of them is the real master control room and it only activates if the doctor is female, yes that's brilliant"

AND the closing lines as we learn when Mandragora will be in position to try again...

It got damaged between seasons.

I get good vibes from that combination, must be from the joy of rare repeats through the 90s.

Just re watched this last night the incidental music through the whole programme was the same as the Blake's 7 I watched the night before. And I loved it.

@@dogwalker666 I always liked the battle music when the Federation puirsuit ships attacked

This was a couple of seasons before Adams was working on Who, but pretty close.

Haha

It's a recorder likely left there by the Second Doctor.

Me too

She was playing British grenadiers.

The recorder is a throwback to when Patrick Troughton was the Doctor.

speaking of Chibs... y'know how Doctor Who is supposed to be extremely northern with the (ugh) "fam"... well this era is the only time that Doctor Who has been properly northern... both Tom Baker and Elisabeth Sladen being scousers. Tom from Vauxhall and Elisabeth from Toxteth... one from the same road as Cilla Black, and the other from a neighbouring district to John Lennon.

I agree. That advert was such a bad joke. Love Tom's Doctor as well. Brilliant!

unknown456 who else wants a proper tardis and a proper Doctor? I certainly do.

Just a doctor who can act and a retconned series as well as a wooden console..

@@eccremocarpusscaber5159 wdym?

Loopy don’t be purposely obtuse.

Only if it has a proper console with enough knobs and switches on it. I could never understand how that fiddly little thing could take the place of the original console. And it must have a proper up and downy glass thing. I'd still prefer a white one with roundels in a honeycomb pattern, but either would be so much better than those puke yellow rock efforts.

My favorite exchange is from the Jon Pertwee eta. Sarah Jane, in a swim suit, was putting on water wings. The Doctor tells Sarah that she can't sink where he's taking her, because the water is effervescent. The bubbles support you. Sarah proudly proclaims "I can sink anywhere!"

She was, definitely! But my favorite, from the old days, was Tegan. SHE was stunning . IMO, 😊

Gothic? No the TV movie 1 with candles and bats his Gothic this is just wood paneling and a desk in the middle

No, there are multiple Console Rooms throughout. The one here is never seen before this episode. The "old one" before Tom would have been the big Hartnell original back in the pilot. Baker's is used up through Seventh Doctor. Then McGann's massive beauty (which might have been a remodeled Hartnell console room). Then Eccleston/Tennant corral. Then Smith's toyroom. Is his second one remodeled from the toyroom look, or a new altogether? Long story short, just because you can change the "desktop theme" of the rooms, doesn't mean they are all the same one room throughout. As evidenced by them showing us this one with Four.

UndeadManslay3r don’t spoil it for everyone...

@@DrRock2009 been over 30 years mate. Past the spoilers point. BBC still uses effects like this today trust me I've been to their studios many times and stepped foot in the TARDIS trust me. It's made up of shit you'll find around your house

Doctor opens a panel showing a field of stars. Doctor: Oh! (points) Seems we're in someone's bathtub.

Maybe that's what the Mandragora Helix actually looks like and why it's so annoyed: nobody takes it seriously because it looks like water going down a plughole.