Along with current Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, Republicans and Democrats have made the same promises over the years to fix the roads. So what is Michigan doing wrong? FOX 2 dug around for answers.
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@TheAS68710 күн бұрын
Money laundering
@WookofWallstreet10 күн бұрын
I wonder if we started a gofundme for fixing all the michigan roads and sewers and getting rid of all the lead pipes and stop paying taxes until michigan can provide us with the documentation that our tax payer dollars aren't going too half ass companies. By cutting out the middle man we could literally pave the roads with gold. Just saying.
@yehimstone54929 күн бұрын
💯🎯
@DetroitMicroSound9 күн бұрын
It's not money laundering when the road work is getting DONE. Not JUST done, but completely re-designed with roundabouts instead of old-fashioned traffic signals, in many areas, too.
@TheAS6879 күн бұрын
@@DetroitMicroSound yeah ok money laundering comes in many forms…such as construction one can assume that the government is receiving kickbacks (quid pro quo’s) to give certain companies annual contractual approvals even though their work is poor. Why utilize millions on an annual basis when you know the work is going to go to shyt by the next year instead of going with the best contractor for the job? I’m sure if the tax payers could vote we would know which company to choose. Money laundering can easily be in the form of a $60k job costing $100k both parties profit the addition $40k and no one bats an eye because it’s the amount approved for the job to be completed.
@WookofWallstreet9 күн бұрын
@@DetroitMicroSound no they literally did an investigation and found money was going missing.
@johnball561610 күн бұрын
Why roads suck? Because corupt officials , hire crap contractors. And get major kick backs.
@tropicalpunch85905 күн бұрын
this is called bid rigging. its supposed to be illegal but so is everything else the government does. hard to get in trouble when you answer to no one but your self ya know.
@KrustyKlown5 күн бұрын
high water table in MI ... destroys the roads
@FORDTECH3135 күн бұрын
It’s stupid they hire these idiot people to do our roads you can literally predict when they will be working on a road again you’ll see them doing construction redo the roads and a few years later they’re doing them again and that’s exactly what’s happening right now where I live
@BrownTrout12384 күн бұрын
Not to mention the soil type of most Michigan, along with most of the south being at or near sea level…
@XXPYR0XX4 күн бұрын
like for real they have discoverd how to make roman concrete why cant we just replace the roads with that. concrete that repairs itself.
@stephenalbright69613 күн бұрын
It's called corruption and incompetence
@horatiobeakerКүн бұрын
It’s called: lowest bidder gets the job.
@bluefrog86709 күн бұрын
Remember that guy who got caught stealing $40m from Detroit? Scale that up to the whole state and it makes sense.
@thedrainjunkie56546 күн бұрын
Exactly - where is all that weed tax money going???
@chugginbeers6 күн бұрын
@thedrainjunkie5654 probably gender studies in nigeria. Its hard to say with democrats so willing to give our wealth away.
@taras_svirgun2 күн бұрын
Greed is the answer.
@newbunny932 күн бұрын
@@thedrainjunkie5654 Exactly. Record sales and a 10% tax for rec users there is not reason for the roads to be shit.
@100k__mc2 күн бұрын
@@newbunny93corruption, almost every state / city has it, they steal public funds
@samtodd630110 күн бұрын
Michigan has been mismanaged for soooooo long. It's embarrassing.
@user-zw9ko2qx5x10 күн бұрын
Stupid people put up with it day in and day out.
@bbqbeer18839 күн бұрын
Might be the democratic ideology
@Nighthawke709 күн бұрын
Just wait til they hit the part where they reveal MDOT materials testing labs are revealed they have been gundecking test reports... It's more common nationwide than you think.
@bmorg51909 күн бұрын
We have the left to thank for that
@jinoziniosti56339 күн бұрын
Its been this way for 25+ years so cant blame the left or the right here. keep trying tho lol
@dennisn167210 күн бұрын
Ohio. Cut and fix section. Michigan. Throw a shovel full of asphalt in the mud puddle.
@iconwithnikeson9 күн бұрын
And a tamper is just not on the truck at all. Only shovels
@user-db2ut4fo9g9 күн бұрын
Yep
@muckfoot-40937 күн бұрын
Ohio is like Iraq , the dump of USA
@chugginbeers6 күн бұрын
Yup, thhe differwnce between red and blue states. Drive anywhere in the country and the red states will have nicer roads
@ZaneWhitehead-do5vw6 күн бұрын
@@chugginbeersMichigan was a red state for 8 years and the roads were still shit. Also the water gave children lead poisoning. Politicians in Michigan are more corrupt in general. Especially since Detroits bankruptcy.
@user-mw8to4ng9i8 күн бұрын
As I truck driver, I can attest to this. MI has some of, if not the worst roads in America, OH some of the best.
@larrys46182 күн бұрын
Ohio was good and so is Florida. Louisiana is right up there with Michigan with the worst roads.
@newbunny939 күн бұрын
I frequently travel across the US and Michigan has the worst roads.
@dknowles603 күн бұрын
yea
@seanwalters19772 күн бұрын
Yep, RIP my suspension.
@deenegron632810 күн бұрын
You pay Federal, State, City, and local taxes for this NOT to be an issue, yet here we are. Where is your money going?
@MeatVessel10 күн бұрын
Overseas. In their pockets. To illegals. Stuff like that
@beatrixkills19 күн бұрын
Don't forget fuel tax and then paying for your license tabs every year. Big Gretch is a liar.
@Tom_Lynx_986269 күн бұрын
In the DemonRat's pockets !!!
@jaydubb26369 күн бұрын
Something tells me that all of you probably complaining about the insane amount of construction going on and blame Democrats for that too. Damned if they do, damned if they dont. If only you held both parties to the same standards. But i suppose that makes it harder for you to show up at rallies, bellies full of beer body painted red, white and blue! Go Red team!! Goooo politics!!! 🎉 Youre all such rubes!!
@DetroitMicroSound9 күн бұрын
@@jaydubb2636This is complete horse dung. They are talking about the Michigan of 10 years ago WHEN REPUBLICANS WERE IN CHARGE.
@lor170110 күн бұрын
Ohio has free state parks, free metro parks and great roads
@user-hs5me4dw4n10 күн бұрын
Common thieves
@Emmy-J10 күн бұрын
You also have tolls which Michigan does not
@gisellem92710 күн бұрын
@@Emmy-Jthe only toll road I know of there is I-80. I was shocked when I moved to Michigan and saw huge, beautiful homes on unpaved roads in metro Detroit. They paved all the country roads in the early 90’s in Ohio so you don’t have to zigzag when going through the country to stay on a paved road.
@DylanLynn1779 күн бұрын
@@Emmy-Ja single road going east to west that can be totally bypassed… and is cheap if you want to use it…
@peterdangelo58829 күн бұрын
@@Emmy-J That is not the reason - watch the report, they only use the toll road money on that one toll road not all the other roads. Ohio has 50K of roads, Michigan 25K - the do more with less. Simple, Michigan is not doing a good job.
@JohnD-JohnD5 күн бұрын
Weird how the governor went on a spending spree the past few years and spent all sorts of money on pet projects, except the roads. Enjoy that million dollar Cricket field if you can get there without getting a flat from a pothole. This is what happens when you elect people into office without looking at what their policies/priorities are.
@rickybobby66052 күн бұрын
For a 10 minute local news segment, this is good journalism. Lots of facts, no filler and it’s important to the local audience. Nice job. 👍🏻
@Kbandz31310 күн бұрын
It’s Money Laundering going on in Michigan. No way some of these roads take 2 years to fix just to fix the other side once it’s done
@TapTapBlipBlip8 күн бұрын
It's coming through this state.
@PaulSmith-sb7sj3 күн бұрын
I 75 in Toledo has been under construction for well over 5 years, not to mention the 8+ year project in Dayton.
@connieellerbe-maycock711510 күн бұрын
Ohio actually take their time to fix their roads properly, not rushing through projects.
@BradiKal6110 күн бұрын
Ohio never stops fixing their roads even after they have been fixed
@oldjarhead38610 күн бұрын
Here’s how it goes in Michigan. Almost nothing happens except cones and traffic disruption until early November. Then suddenly miles of roads suddenly get coated with lie cost, easy to lay blacktop get done in less than two weeks before the weather goes bad. In less than a year or two those black top roads will start to degrade and you won’t be able to tell anything was ever done. Once in a while they use cheap roll and go. Where they spray a layer of tar and drop a thin layer of gravel over it. Very temporary. Repeat the cycle. Money wasted and politicians get to say they “fixed” the roads.
@darkcash552010 күн бұрын
there road weight limits are way lower almost by half!
@rf0059 күн бұрын
Someone once told me the roads are so bad it’s because of the Unions they need Job security.
@DylanLynn1779 күн бұрын
@@BradiKal61as someone who lived in Ohio and moved to Michigan recently, this isn’t correct. Ohio actually builds shit decently. The major i75 refresh right across the state line through Toledo has been done for many years and still smooth as silk. Michigan i75 stretch is shut down every other year and still sucks ass lmao.
@robertculver94706 күн бұрын
Our roads in mid Michigan suck and we see why. Our corrupt government is the reason we tax so much for the scrappiest roads.
@peterdangelo58829 күн бұрын
You get the government you deserve - simple.
@freeclimb548710 күн бұрын
Exits closed for repairs, then months later shut down again to fix the repairs.
@nedalien17429 күн бұрын
Lol! For real dude. All the exits near me are blocked off for "construction" even though they were allegedly just repaired not even 2 years ago!
@dknowles603 күн бұрын
yea
@brotherenochisrael856310 күн бұрын
Somebody at the road commission is cutting corners so it's money left to steal
@Maybe1Someday5 күн бұрын
Doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure that out. They say the road is concrete yet you can just look at it and tell it isnt. They must think everyone is blind and stupid.
@brianhall80979 күн бұрын
Let's not forget 2015 when everybody's registration went up in gas tax for 1.2 billion Road funding package in Michigan and guess what not a damn thing happens Michigan is a crooked place to live
@cujoedaman9 күн бұрын
I remember when Obama suspended the gas tax and the oil companies jacked the prices up higher... even though they don't get the tax portion. Gotta love stupidity.
@SlanksThomas3 күн бұрын
There was a lot done with it Michigan imported a bunch of new votes and put the rest of money into their inbreeding for a vote Section 8 Housing and Welfare programs
@cajun8699 күн бұрын
MDOT is a complete joke and is owned by certain big road construction companies. They build them for jobs, not longevity. It needs a complete overhaul.
@gdt543010 күн бұрын
Sounds like Michigan needs to fire all their DOT directors and start over. If they just adopt all of Ohio's processes and follow exactly what Ohio does they'd have an instant solution. You gotta love stupid politicians who think they're smarter than everybody else. Maybe now Ohio can come and teach the DOT idiots in the southern and south/west states how to build good roads as well.
@4knanapapa10 күн бұрын
Unfortunetly I've been driving Michigan roads for 57 years, it was a problem from the 60s up till today , doesn't matter who's in charge, Mich is one of few states with a .06 cent sales tax on gas, at $3 or 4 a gallon do the math, .18 to .24 a gallon that's $3.50 to $5.00 on a 20 gallon fill, that money goes into the general fund for pork barrel projects not roads.
@cajun8699 күн бұрын
Don't forget the 3 wicked witches either. End the insanity.
@TapTapBlipBlip8 күн бұрын
Oh, I wouldn't do that. Ohio just wastes tax money, on the same goddamn roads, for years. They also don't look at maximizing capacity on the highways; instead, they throw bridges up on already crowded dirt.
@IAmWithinEverything10 күн бұрын
Money laundering, inept state workers, horrifying governor. Never have I driven on freeways with huge potholes.
@Detroittruckdoctor5510 күн бұрын
The patch crews accomplish zero but steal state money
@davidphillips73219 күн бұрын
Inept State Workers - Thanks Affarmitive Action...
@robby21619 күн бұрын
**cough New York State cough. Though, Michigan roads DO look absolutely horrifying, lol
@user-up9ou9bt4h9 күн бұрын
Hay how else is the snow plow going to know when they have clean black top
@blauer25517 күн бұрын
State workers aren’t building the roads. Maybe the MDOT inspectors on site should do their job to make sure they are built up to standards.
@austin_does_stuff9 күн бұрын
imagine paying taxes and having those roads you paid for destroy your vehicle 🤡🤡🤡
@RusnakAutoDesign6 күн бұрын
Tax on your car, that gets taxed each year, taxed when you fill up, then get your car wrecked because they can't do their job with your money.
@hamchron9 күн бұрын
Good thing we have high registration fees, gas taxes, insurance to have great roads………
@rossjohnson187210 күн бұрын
I lived in Ohio in 1980's and the word was that, "What is good for the auto industry is selling more cars, so Michigan roads are designed and not maintained to keep the demand for replacement vehicles high."
@W.J.M.5 күн бұрын
that's stupid. and probably false.
@rossjohnson18725 күн бұрын
@@W.J.M. was just saying what the joke has always been. Truth. Liars see lies everywhere, liar.
@roaddawg32174 күн бұрын
Well there's always been a huge auto industry in Ohio too, Toledo Cleveland previously lordstown, theres still steel being produced, so that's a hell of a cop out for us
@rossjohnson18724 күн бұрын
@roaddawg3217 The thing is though, major interchanges have needed updated safer traffic flow patterns in Michigan for 50 years. Ohio has gotten a lot of that redone. Truck Drivers know the roads in Michigan and where these designed-to-cause wrecks places are.
@roaddawg32174 күн бұрын
@@rossjohnson1872 exactly, which is why that was the worst excuse in the history of excusedom, like I traveled in Canada daily for a time in my trucking career, same climate, or worse, same industries, and their trucks run all kinds of axle configurations and their legal gross is heavier, however they build their roads extra durable to accommodate, nice and smooth 98% of the time!
@ethxo673410 күн бұрын
I commute daily from Detroit to Toledo, the contrast is night and day right at the border. The distinction doesn’t just stop at the roads but the maintenance. During the winter, the freeways are covered in snow, slush and aren’t cleaned properly. As soon as I reach Ohio the snow is properly removed and it’s smooth driving from there. But pretty much from my house until Toledo I’m praying the whole way there.
@richardtrudeau736310 күн бұрын
That Slush is Dangerous to Drive in.Rather drive on Snow.
@pbpunisher997 күн бұрын
It's the same with Indiana. As soon as you cross the border you notice an immediate difference.
@realrusskij15 күн бұрын
But bridge pass Toledo just finished huge construction it's already closed for repairs and another never ending project before Dublin on hwy 33 3 years already and not near finishing. Not everything smooth in Ohio either. I move to Michigan from Chicago in 2015 and want to say it huge improvements bur still lots need to bee done.
@jasonperlin4 күн бұрын
I couldn’t agree more
@kevins.35739 күн бұрын
Maybe, you should start finding out where your politicians are embezzling all the money.
@rng88912 күн бұрын
Dear Michigan, there are materials other than concrete to build roads from. Sincerely, the state of Ohio.
@VectorW801510 күн бұрын
Our road taxes at the pump have been raised many times over the years, all with the promise of repairing the roads. Of course all it has gone to is special interest projects. Never the roads. Just a way for politicians to get more money out of tax payers.
@donaldcreg511010 күн бұрын
Like the 70 dollar a month service charge on Flint's water bill January 1st it gets put in the general fund.
@noahboat58010 күн бұрын
SOME REAL NEWS
@user-zw9ko2qx5x10 күн бұрын
About time. This affects us all
@86foureyefreak229 күн бұрын
The brand new section of 75 that they just laid is already cracked and blown out in Monroe. It’s bs already
@roaddawg32174 күн бұрын
Bro, again!??? I'm 52 yrs old and that stretch of road has never been right, wtf??
@dknowles603 күн бұрын
yea and the paul henry in grand Rapids did not even make 16 years
@RKelleyCook9 күн бұрын
The obvious answer is Ohio has a governor and legislature that actually cares about the well being of thier people; we have Dolores Umbridge.
@bixbysnyder-005 күн бұрын
Republicans never fixed the roads, and they were the majority power in Michigan for the last 20 years until recently. The problem is corruption, and it's both parties problem.
@kwyatt2614 күн бұрын
I will say, as bad as Stretchen is, she hasn't run companies and jobs out of the state at the pace Granholm did. That bitch left this state to die and flew off to California to ruin that state
@donsteffes97923 күн бұрын
Spent most of last year working in Ohio. Gov Dewine is a fucking idiot
@dknowles603 күн бұрын
and is not dem run
@bixbysnyder-003 күн бұрын
@@dknowles60 Republicans in Michigan were the majority for the last 30 years until recently, and they did nothing to fix the roads. Try again.
@garyszewc333910 күн бұрын
My brother used to work for the city of Troy. He asked one of the road department guys, about the condition of the roads. He was told, "they build them for a five year lifespan".
@trobbins8810 күн бұрын
I'm surprised that nobody realizes that "Fix the damn roads" is nothing more than an election talking point. I have lived in Michigan, Illinois, and Wisconsin...Michigan roads are the worst, it's not even close. If you put Stevie Wonder in a car and drive him from Ohio to Michigan, he could tell you exactly where the border is. Toll roads do make a difference, but our Democrats would funnel the tolls into some other bridge-to-nowhere project and then try to come up with another reason to raise registration fees or gas taxes.
@hWat-Ever2 күн бұрын
Other than propaganda, what the hell does vehicle registration or gas tax have to do with anything?
@brayleeparkinsonauthor9 күн бұрын
One of the things I immediately noticed when I moved out of Michigan was the quality of the roads in Utah. When I lived in Michigan my car was constantly in the shop for tires and alignments. I’ve saved a lot of money on my car insurance and car repairs since leaving the Mitten.
@imjabroni19 күн бұрын
The University of Michigan had a group design a tough type of asphalt formula and GAVE IT to the Road Commission. They paved some overpasses with it, but didn't say which ones and that's the last heard of that. I believe it used old tires too, to help get rid of them... There's a lot of money in road repair. Plenty enough to go 'round to every official who can keep the sad state going. Everyone with oversight powers must be on the payroll.
@oldjarhead38610 күн бұрын
So we pay more and get less. We already knew that. Thanks!
@rwdplz110 күн бұрын
They're working on the roads, but they're not fixing them. Get the FBI involved, follow the money.
@nedalien17429 күн бұрын
FBI is in on it too.
@bluefrog86709 күн бұрын
The FBI only exists to fight against the American people.
@paule46969 күн бұрын
The FBI would probably help those bureaucrats that are stealing our money.
@tc2638 күн бұрын
As a former Indiana resident we had that joke for years. Going to MI huh? Hope I don’t loose a filling.
@larrys46182 күн бұрын
Indiana roads aren't much better. I lived in Northwest Indiana and I've been to both States nearby often. Illinois roads were a little bit better and Michigan roads were worse.
@loufaiella33547 күн бұрын
WOW!! You can click on all the thumbs up. You guys have nailed it and it is throughout this corrupt America.
@wilfordbrimley439710 күн бұрын
i thought whitmer was gonna fix all the roads? what happened to the money?
@BradiKal6110 күн бұрын
There has been a ton of work going on for years but you seem to need to make a political statement despite reality .
@josephsmith432510 күн бұрын
@@BradiKal61 and yet our roads still suck
@4knanapapa10 күн бұрын
Campaign promise she no intention of filling.
@ericsneary543010 күн бұрын
@@4knanapapa LOL
@coldspring62410 күн бұрын
I say give her a shovel and let her sling black top and stay out of politics
@PaulUnknown-so8yn10 күн бұрын
Ohio, uses new materials, not seconds, they also reinforce the concrete like it's supposed to be done. The ash Ohio use is a foot thick not a 1/4 inch.
@1001Hobbies5 күн бұрын
What ash is that?
@lakes26mi9 күн бұрын
Bro Iraq has better roads than Michigan
@alistairblaire60014 сағат бұрын
Yeah because the US spent trillions rebuilding that country after bombing it.
@user-yv4mm6bx3c9 күн бұрын
How many times has I-275 been completely rebuilt in my lifetime? I was born in 84. I've counted three, including this current rebuild. That is unacceptable. A road should last at least 100 years. Anything less is lazy incompetence.
@98f58 күн бұрын
475 in toledo has been rebuilt at least 4 times in my memory but 75 has been under construction basically everytime I drove it for 30 years.
@user-yv4mm6bx3c8 күн бұрын
@@98f5 I think there was one Christmas day where I-75 wasn't under construction. Back before it was built. LoL
@viktorakhmedov34425 күн бұрын
Opened in 1976 using a new type of pavement design (continuous reinforced concrete) that didn't have joints and instead had continuous reinforcing steel to hold it together. They were investigating failures by 1978. They kept it passable for another 20 years until they finally rebuilt it in 1999/2000 which was with an experimental texturing that caused a lot of noise. In 2001 the texture was ground off at a cost of several million dollars and by 2005, joints started failing and the problem got progressively worse. This time it was "ASR" or "concrete cancer" that resulted from an interaction between deicing salts and the aggregate in the concrete. It was a phenomenon that was known about but not really widespread in 1999 until several years later when a huge number of these projects from 1997-2003 failed (including the original 2001 runway at Detroit Metro's McNamara Terminal to a cost of $300M). So in 2016, it was rebuilt again (although the original shoulders sit beneath the new ones). Nothing experimental this time. Hopefully it holds up. But the typical design life for concrete pavements in Michigan is 35 years. Some can go much longer with proper maintenance. 100 years is a stretch. It would be functionally obsolete by that time. Although I did just replace a 100 year old concrete pavement (part of the original 1923 US-127) but the lanes were only 10 feet wide and it rode very rough.
@user-yv4mm6bx3c5 күн бұрын
@@viktorakhmedov3442 I appreciate the background info.
@viktorakhmedov34425 күн бұрын
@@user-yv4mm6bx3c Nope, my grandpa said even back then they had surveyors going back to the 1930s that always closed lanes and screwed with traffic while they were designing it.
@toddportice499710 күн бұрын
We have said this for year. Michigan and mdot just dont change things.
@GeraldThomasphotojunkie10 күн бұрын
No surprises there regarding taxation in Michigan. “The lottery money will be for schools”, “The gas taxes will be for roads”. It’s eye opening that our governor wasn’t available for an interview. I hope that in the second segment you asked, or learned how long does Ohio roads last vs Michigan roads.
@BradiKal6110 күн бұрын
Its been decades since the Michigan Legislators voted to put the Lottery in the genneral funds but blame Whitmer for that if AM radio tells you to think that way 😅
@GeraldThomasphotojunkie10 күн бұрын
@@BradiKal61 I’m not blaming anyone but the state itself! When these things are passed they state one thing, and do entirely another thing with the money and then the finger pointing starts.
@CJPostal7 күн бұрын
@@BradiKal61it’s definitely been both parties and unfortunately the same thing for 30+ years. I don’t think the OP was picking sides but more so blaming the whole.
@jeremymoore34309 күн бұрын
michigan manages half as much miles of roadway and yet gets more in gas taxes and yet never fixes the roads properly because of the corruption with awarding the contracts and kickbacks
@mitchherber31206 күн бұрын
That's what happens when you vote democrat
@justinburton9186 күн бұрын
Our terrible governor ran her campaign on the saying "fix the damn roads" now she wants to be the president of the United States........ do not let that happen !
@KrustyKlown5 күн бұрын
She is Fixing the roads .. that's the problem causing traffic .. people complain more about traffic than bumpy roads.
@justinburton9185 күн бұрын
@@KrustyKlown what you just said makes no sense. And she hasn't done anything any previous governor hasn't done for the roads.
@lukeWiz445 күн бұрын
@@justinburton918 I agree. Wherever I go, there are orange barrels, but I don’t see shit being done. She needs to part ways with dans contracting
@brandonnonya36805 күн бұрын
She put covid patients in nursing homes all while emergency covid shelters sat empty. Yet she still got re "elected"
@KrustyKlown5 күн бұрын
@@justinburton918 the damn roads are all under construction, lanes closed, detours.. traffic backups .. it's insane. Most people in MI are already driving SUVs and Trucks to deal with the crappy roads, open them up.
@garydykstra42499 күн бұрын
In Europe they drive on the left, in Michigan we drive on what’s left!
@phillipcotton8334 күн бұрын
I moved to Michigan in '92. From way back then, I can remember someone telling me that " they do just enough to keep them working steady". 32 years later ,& that statement appears to be more truth than conspiracy. How else can you explain " Summer construction season" every ....damn....year???
@georgefirman3187Күн бұрын
It's all about the last Lane. They put more money into the roads and do it right. it takes away from the governor's pocket.
@TheDetroitSlayer10 күн бұрын
The roads werent being fixed because of greed and pocket stuffing. Now, the pocket stuffing is still happening, but the roads are shut down.
Gretchen is a great governor. Much better than Snyder and way better than Tudor Dixon would have been
@kevinmach7303 күн бұрын
@@OnePride313 But she campaigned on the promise to fix the damn roads? Are they fixed in your opinion? You're of course going to say she's doing that, but will they be fixed 5 -10 years after she's gone? I am not so hopeful. I suspect it was a bullshit campaign promise to do more of the same instead of actually fixing anything,.
@joephysics54692 күн бұрын
I live one street away from an Ohio state route by Cincinnati. It has been well maintained for decades - more than I expect. The county roads are well maintained too. Going into the city of Cincinnati is a completely different story. Mismanagement is rampant in city budgets.
@MrBadass5093 күн бұрын
Follow the money. I guarantee the majority of the money is being allocated somewhere else and politicians' pockets.
@thomasfaucher275610 күн бұрын
As an old construction worker who worked with a lot of Mdot inspectors I can personally say that they did Not do their job. Pumpkin truck drivers were doing everything they could to let us get away with as much as possible. They didn't care how it was built, they only cared about how fast it was built.
@MrLurch1336 күн бұрын
If they actually worked on it instead of spending months staring at it
@kevinwells71565 күн бұрын
It’s all specs and engineering. Road construction companies are HUGE political donors. And the politicians repay the favor by allowing them to build an inferior product. Thereby ensuring that they are always busy working on a hugely profitable public project. Throw a clause in the contract about a minimum guaranteed lifespan and see what happens.
@bass69player10 күн бұрын
Follow the money.
@Wow-vu6uk5 күн бұрын
I was born and raised in Michigan it's always been a problem for over 50 years
@AviatorRetired6 күн бұрын
Two words…. Poor Management!
@darkcash552010 күн бұрын
Michigan has the highest truck weight limits in North America, that can be utilized on a regular basis, with a limit of 164,000 lb gross weight limit, and truck trailer combinations limited to 11 axles.
@rgould419610 күн бұрын
Excellent reporting! My father was in the road construction work, was an equipment operator, and he helped build the original I94. He is passed now, but, long ago we didnt have pot hole problems, the roads were strong and held up. His claim for the more modern road quality issues were, the pavement recipe was purposely changed, made weaker, so it would require more frequent repairs and work...which equated to more jobs to repair or replace. So, if they build them correctly, they would hold better. And some say we run too heavy now, i dont believe that. We've always run heavy in Michigan, its just now you see more axles than back then, and thats a good thing because it disperses the weight easier & more evenly onto the road.
@rosswalther25385 күн бұрын
Great work on this report. We need more of this.
@mikejoz4 күн бұрын
- Michigan and Ohio have a similar amount of paved roads (in miles). We are also taxed about the same (per capita) as Ohio. Michigan has a population and 10M people, Ohio has a population of 12M. We spend less per paved mile than Ohio. - We allow very heavy trucks. While it is less per axle (up to 18,000), it is still 11 axles with up to a total of 164,000lbs jack hammering over a section of road. The industry will tell you it is all good, but no states are even close to our limits. - Years of neglect.
@casteine10 күн бұрын
Yup! I'm a truck driver, and can vouch michigan by far is the worst. I've been to every state in the upper 48. It's not even close. I do see a lot of overweight trucks on michigan roads, too.
@philsonnenberg609210 күн бұрын
Also a truck driver. Illinois is much worse than Michigan. Ohio has toll roads which adds money to the budget. Also the US23/I75/I475 though Toledo has been under construction for at least 10yrs STRAIGHT. Its never full open. Sure the surface is better but its never finished.
@matty10535 күн бұрын
@@philsonnenberg6092 The one toll road does not fund anything else. It is a separate entity.
@Lastkingof3310 күн бұрын
My brother in law told me the inspectors get paid off to half inspect the roads. Not to mention I never see the workers actually doing anything.
@ANTAGONIST177610 күн бұрын
Don't we all think it's like magic fairies doing all the work when we go to sleep😂
@steve64299 күн бұрын
Roads around the Michigan capitol downtown Lansing are a joke and tell you all you need to know about the governments priorities.
@user-zw9ko2qx5x8 күн бұрын
It's amazing that as a state representative at the time. Gretchen never really did much to address that in her backyard.
@Blue-uo7kc4 күн бұрын
Steve baydoun thats my dad!!!! Love you pops!! Been keeping Detroit moving since you've been 18 years old.. love you man
@Boraxo10 күн бұрын
Same here in Washington State. Our gas tax use to go to the roads exclusively, now it goes to the general fund. We now have the highest gas tax and piss poor roads.
@parkerrutherford291610 күн бұрын
"Navigating a gravely, bombed minefield." Music to my ears. 👍🏻
@LKing-v5c4 күн бұрын
Stevie B. at Warholak tire shop is the absolute best! They do a great job, honest and fair pricing. Always happy with my service there. 5-stars 🌟 😎
@sargentthiccboi93336 күн бұрын
I drove a truck from Dayton Ohio to Dearborn and I hated when I got into Michigan. It’s awful and makes me appreciate Ohio roads even more
@moeal546910 күн бұрын
The Unions have all the control. Over everything, they have every incentive. To patch and keep repairing the same road every 5 years. The most u can get is asphalt resurfacing. Then after 5 years it looks the same again.
@BradiKal6110 күн бұрын
No they dont have control. Turn of your AM radio
@user-hs5me4dw4n10 күн бұрын
@@BradiKal61lol
@ANTAGONIST177610 күн бұрын
@@BradiKal61stop fighting the truth
@rhnstjegilrhkscvn1djhrj96910 күн бұрын
don't be fooled, the politicians still call the shots
@moeal546910 күн бұрын
@@BradiKal61 There are 1,739 labor unions in Michigan. Combined, these Michiganian unions employ 11,080 people, earn more than $825 million in revenue each year, and have assets of $2 billion. Uaw - International Union Uaw, Brotherhood of Maintenance of Way Employes Div of Ibt, Michigan Education Association, International Union UAW Local 598, and UAW Local 600.United Brotherhood of Carpenters & Joiners - Michigan Regional Council, International Union of Operating Engineers' Local 324, and International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers Local Union No 58 earn the majority of revenues among nonprofits in Michigan unions.
@jimwells42405 күн бұрын
"we filled it up with 2 1/2 foot of compacted stone....they don't do it right"....truer words were never spoken....see my previous post...
@ess11639 күн бұрын
Mafia in plain site. Money to truckers lobbyyists
@hokmed478710 күн бұрын
Another thing that would help when the people patching the roads would care about what they are doing by not just tossing a heap of cold patch in the whole so the plows take it back out on the first snow
@richardtrudeau736310 күн бұрын
I saw a County Road worker throw Hot Patch into a water filled Pothole.
@user-zw9ko2qx5x9 күн бұрын
Stupid. This is the best you can do Michigan?
@305dadecounty305Күн бұрын
I wonder how much these engineers are getting paid to favor testing to the contractor that has the contract with Michigan.
@Ellis112710 күн бұрын
Can’t wait to see part 2, maybe more funding should go to MDOT instead of Health and Human Services. Michigan has mounds of revenue coming in and the roads are lacking. 😮😮😮😮😮
@MilePost10610 күн бұрын
Take a look as to who’s running the state. They are all talk and no action!
@ericsneary543010 күн бұрын
LOL
@ajaxbac10 күн бұрын
It's not just this administration, the roads go back decades. Get your facts right.
@andrewcrawford463510 күн бұрын
@@ajaxbacExactly. They shown Republican and Democrat governors saying that they will get the roads fixed at the beginning. I guess he didn’t play close enough attention.
@jasonbourne159610 күн бұрын
@@andrewcrawford4635 We all know Michigan is run by liberals.
@dwsheffer8 күн бұрын
Yep, under BOTH Republican and Democratic years!!
@kingkat80802 күн бұрын
I left Michigan 2005 for a job, about 2 years ago I considered moving back but ultimately decided to stay in Ohio. Between Governor shut down, the BS in Lansing, bad roads, and insane auto insurance rates. I'll pass.
@hoodinisharif1860Күн бұрын
I drove from Minnesota to Toronto Canada and when I drove thru Michigan for a few hours I was hitting pot holes everywhere on the highway THE HIGHWAY!!! I ended up getting 2 flat tires before I got to the bridge to Canada
@sunii426410 күн бұрын
Facts! You can feel once you leave OH & enter MI.
@MoEzArT_10 күн бұрын
Straight to the politicians pocket.
@jerryodell11686 күн бұрын
Being from Michigan I would like Michigan first, however, facts are facts: The first paved road in the USA was the Cumberland Road in in Cumberland, Maryland and the first concrete road was Court Avenue in Bellefontaine, Ohio paved in 1893. Woodward Avenue in Detroit, Michigan was paved with concrete in 1909.
@douglasvankammen29168 күн бұрын
Legislators don't care to fix the roads in Michigan. They want to keep the union road crews in business and not fix the roads. Plus in Michigan allows truckers to carry heavier loads in Michigan.
@Galaxylord210 күн бұрын
Stop using concrete and stop allowing the 160 thousand weight limit. No matter how many axles they have. Only state that allows this.
@Hilliard9999910 күн бұрын
What about the semi weight limits? Michigan has the highest weight limit. Also triple trailers that are allowed in Ohio but not michigan distributes the load better.
@onenikkione7 күн бұрын
I was able to leave Michigan and retire in a warm climate with smooth roads and no salt. I hope you can do the same one day.
@daviddunn7737 күн бұрын
Take the money put it in there pockets
@bluesman31110 күн бұрын
10 minutes and they gloss over one of the most important factors. Maximum allowed weight in Ohio 80,000 lbs. Maximum allowed weight in Michigan 160,000 lbs
@rhnstjegilrhkscvn1djhrj96910 күн бұрын
funny I don't see trucks at the border and turning around so as not to take their heavy loads into Ohio
@moeal546910 күн бұрын
@@bluesman311 Federal law controls maximum gross vehicle weights and axle loads on the Interstate System. Federal limits are 80,000 pounds gross vehicle weight, 20,000 pounds on a single axle, and 34,000 pounds on a tandem axle group. 160k load is illegal in every single state including Michigan.
@darkcash552010 күн бұрын
the truth is hard to report these days!
@darkcash552010 күн бұрын
@@moeal5469 Michigan has the highest truck weight limits in North America, that can be utilized on a regular basis, with a limit of 164,000 lb gross weight limit, and truck trailer combinations limited to 11 axles. if its within the state it is legal just cant cross state lines, cause that would be multi-state and that's a federal thing at that time.
@jasonbourne159610 күн бұрын
@@darkcash5520Like prove it
@chriswalls58318 күн бұрын
Michigan governor has to step up
@dwsheffer8 күн бұрын
Why, the last 5 or so didn't either....
@JBrown1009_17 күн бұрын
@@dwsheffer I agree. If multiple governors have claimed they wanted to "fix the roads" but failed to do so, it comes down to the MDOT (which sounds like they don't care but want to get payed.)
@mitchherber31206 күн бұрын
No I'd rather see her step DOWN 😁
@markdouglas1601Күн бұрын
@@dwshefferwhy would this mean the governor doesn’t need to step up? Doesn’t this mean the opposite?
@howardlop4 күн бұрын
Same problem with any road in Illinois. Go from Indiana to Illinois you don’t need a sign to say welcome. You can feel the difference.
@jeremiahhowe29562 күн бұрын
Let’s talk about why they’re milking a project for five to seven years for something Ohio gets done in one to two years.
@JB-bs1se10 күн бұрын
Corruption, and not having any weight stations open for the semi trucks. Every other state has these open at some point.
@bdass68ss10 күн бұрын
Because they award the job to the minimum bidder and use lowest acceptable specs for the jobs
@seanwalters19772 күн бұрын
And then pocket the rest of the money that wasn't used in the budgeted allotment.
@bdass68ss2 күн бұрын
@@seanwalters1977 exactly right
@jameshazen16797 күн бұрын
Drove a big truck out of Chicago from 1996 to 2006. My dispacher kept sending me to Michigan. Told her i had to be back to Chicago in time to home so I could go to my Chiropractor on Saturday because Michigan road are bad. Started sending me to Iowa instead.😢
@robertniklas42604 күн бұрын
We have a badly run Dept. of Trasportation. We use low grade products. Poor repair planning.
@user-hr4br1ii1h10 күн бұрын
I only drive up into Michigan from Ohio, to visit my Daughter, who lives up in the Commerce TWP area. Yes, it's not only like navigating a bombed out airfield runway, it's also like driving in a NASCAR Demolition Derby ! My hats off to both the ODOT, for keeping the Ohio Highways in great shape , and the OSHP for keeping the Moronic Drivers in check also ! Michiganders have to admit, that once they cruise over the State Lines from Michigan into Ohio, the Cops down here don't play the same game. Love Michigan for all of the great places to Vacation , the Lakes, the Beautiful Scenery ( Especially the Northern Half & UP ) and all that goes along with these things. Fix your Highways the Right Way & Complete the Experience for all of us . Yes, I am originally from the Great State of Michigan, Sterling Heights / Utica Area. Have a Great Day !
@koanytone10 күн бұрын
I use to work in Pennsylvania and spent a few winters there and noticed they have very nice roads in their state. I didn’t have to do much research to notice they use sand with straw over it during the winter months rather than salt. In which salt will not only eat up your paint job but cause rust. It does tend to play a part on causing the roads to crack and break up the concrete also. That’s a good place to start at to make these roads last longer. Yeah it might cost more to do it that way but you’re not paying the road crews repeatedly to come back and do a poor patch job.
@mayavenuemisfit8143 күн бұрын
I live in Pennsylvania, and our roads are only slightly better than Michigan's and worse than Ohio's. The closer to Philly you are, that's where the roads are okay. Everywhere else, they're terrible. I can't tell you how many tires and ball joints I've replaced, or how much fun it was to replace my exhaust due to the stuff they use on the roads in the winter rotting it out. Of course, my theory is that due to our mandatory yearly vehicle inspections, it creates extra revenue for both the state as well as for dishonest mechanics who nitpick and find every little thing to fail you for at inspection time. And, as you may have guessed, Pennsylvania gets their inspection money whether you pass or fail. It's all a racket.
@denerlkonig2774 күн бұрын
Some of the best news coverage ive seen in a long time. Keep up the great work everyone and thank you.