Foxbody Mustang Holley Terminator X Install

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Mustang Geek

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Detailed video installing a Holley Terminator X fuel injection system on a 1991 Foxbody Mustang GT. Here's a wiring diagram: / @mustang-geek
Follow me on Instagram (@wesduenkel) for other short Foxbody Mustang videos and updates.

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@chriswarner2795
@chriswarner2795 4 жыл бұрын
Finally someone that did a good detailed install on a Foxbody with a Ford engine. Thank you very much! Happily subscribed!
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
Follow me on Instagram (@wesduenkel) for short Foxbody Mustang videos and updates.
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
Here's more detailed setup and first drive video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pb5liaR5vrnNemQ.html
@happygilmore8768
@happygilmore8768 3 жыл бұрын
You gotta see his car photography and online articles on how he rebuilt that 302 into a 306....Hes the famous Wes Duenkel...
@stanley514
@stanley514 4 жыл бұрын
By far the best explanation of how to install this system great job sir.
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Just a Foxbody guy trying to help out fellow Foxbody nerds!
@SvtPerformer
@SvtPerformer 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, you should be sponsored by Holley! This video made my decision easy to purchase this kit thanks
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@ripjanetstrimel3312
@ripjanetstrimel3312 3 жыл бұрын
Great video !! My 93 mustang gt is in my Mechanics shop right now getting this up grade and gears .. can’t wait to feel the difference with the x put in !
@ripjanetstrimel3312
@ripjanetstrimel3312 3 жыл бұрын
@Chris Koepp Na not yet the holly has been on back Oder for over a month now
@funfunfun7441
@funfunfun7441 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Just ordered mine today!
@kylerobinson6102
@kylerobinson6102 3 жыл бұрын
How did it work out, did you get it installed in the car?
@codysimmons4489
@codysimmons4489 2 жыл бұрын
Woah. Killer video.
@Boostedjasper
@Boostedjasper 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! great detailed walkthrough man, Subscribed! 👍
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome!
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
Here's more detailed setup and first drive video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pb5liaR5vrnNemQ.html
@o.mtopprint8687
@o.mtopprint8687 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@michaelvigil9313
@michaelvigil9313 11 ай бұрын
Awesome video!!!!
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 11 ай бұрын
Thanks! Please like and subscribe!
@koupe88wehadababyitsaboy96
@koupe88wehadababyitsaboy96 2 жыл бұрын
This video made up my mind I'm getting it now
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 2 жыл бұрын
Great! Let us know how it goes!
@Cisco_927
@Cisco_927 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great video it really explains everything and this will help me out with my engine swap thank you again.
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@Cisco_927
@Cisco_927 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again
@christopherjones8025
@christopherjones8025 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! The system was pretty straightforward to install once I got it figured out!
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
More photos and a diagram here: www.holley.com/blog/post/how_to_install_a_holley_terminator_x_efi_system_on_a_foxbody_mustang/
@chriswhitehouse9764
@chriswhitehouse9764 3 жыл бұрын
Nice info. I just may have to consider ditching my old PMS InterACQ system for this.
@danpolk
@danpolk 3 жыл бұрын
This is the BEST DAMN OVERVIEW of how to install the Terminator X. Holley needs to pay you to put their logo on this video and link it from their website.
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
www.holley.com/blog/post/how_to_install_a_holley_terminator_x_efi_system_on_a_foxbody_mustang/
@danpolk
@danpolk 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mustang-Geek LOL appears that's exactly what they did, eh? Nice.
@joelemmer8524
@joelemmer8524 4 жыл бұрын
this is perfect, im looking to possibly install the terminator x on my 88, this was very helpful, thank you
@Eddie510s
@Eddie510s 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully you make a video of A/C installation soon ! Thank you for all the information and tips !
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 2 жыл бұрын
Working on it!
@Eddie510s
@Eddie510s 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mustang-Geek I might’ve missed it on your video , the map sensor vacuum hose . Does that run off the intake vacuum ?
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 2 жыл бұрын
@@Eddie510s Yes, directly to manifold vacuum.
@foxjunkie3013
@foxjunkie3013 3 жыл бұрын
U deserve more subs bro. U got mine👍🏽
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@TheStrongingrace
@TheStrongingrace 3 ай бұрын
Awesome ...... Video ty for your help ... my guy !!! can hardle wait to get mine installed ... on a 1989 347 Stroker Supercharged and 175 shot NOS ...
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 ай бұрын
No problem! Please check out my other videos, subscribe, and like this one!
@TheStrongingrace
@TheStrongingrace 3 ай бұрын
im a new Sub ... abd ill be checking into your outher vid's@@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 ай бұрын
@@TheStrongingrace Great! Thanks!
@RxHoyt
@RxHoyt 2 жыл бұрын
Very very informative, thanks
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@nialltrevino7390
@nialltrevino7390 2 жыл бұрын
Really good video . thank you
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@think1stproductions
@think1stproductions 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks for the video
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
You got it! More to come!
@turboman351w3
@turboman351w3 3 жыл бұрын
I wish you covered the timing like how to turn off timing to set base timing and then enable the static timing to make shore the Holley is in sync with balancer and distributor
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
I did in this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pb5liaR5vrnNemQ.html
@velr50gt
@velr50gt 4 жыл бұрын
Very well done!
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
No sweat. Thanks!
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
FYI: Follow me on Instagram (@wesduenkel) for short Foxbody Mustang videos and updates.
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
Here's more detailed setup and first drive video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pb5liaR5vrnNemQ.html
@jmbdieselchannelbaker9644
@jmbdieselchannelbaker9644 3 жыл бұрын
Great video
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it useful!
@jmbdieselchannelbaker9644
@jmbdieselchannelbaker9644 3 жыл бұрын
I got a 90 model lx with a 306 14 to 1 compression with 300 hp nitrous express kit it fuel injected and was thinking bout going Holley fuel management but I might use fuel tech instead
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
@@jmbdieselchannelbaker9644 It's up to you, but Holley has a much larger support community.
@olp852
@olp852 3 жыл бұрын
Really nice video thanks
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
Here to help!
@waden404
@waden404 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome sauce. Thank u!!!!
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@thehellfox3423
@thehellfox3423 4 жыл бұрын
For the guys out there where the fuel pump relay is in the passenger side fender, the connector with the red wire that triggers the fuel pump may or may not exist. There's a green plug with a green wire in the passer side kick panel with a yellow stripe that splices out to three. Those three wires trigger the fuel pump. You can connect the green wire from the Holley kit to one of the spliced green wires with the yellow stripe and it will work. Although the Termi X harness already has a relay I still wired in another 40 amp relay just for peace of mind.
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
Great info. Thanks for sharing!
@HalfCutGarage
@HalfCutGarage Жыл бұрын
is that the 8 pin green plug beside the ecu? dig it hook to anything in the term x harness?
@scottadkins918
@scottadkins918 22 күн бұрын
I have a 1987 4 cylinder car, would this still correct for it?
@isaacramos31
@isaacramos31 3 жыл бұрын
My dream interior I have grey at the moment
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
It's kinda weird that this car came with a black interior.
@FUELBURNERTX21
@FUELBURNERTX21 2 жыл бұрын
Well done thank you
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 2 жыл бұрын
You got it!
@bstevermer9293
@bstevermer9293 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Subbed
@mugendrewable
@mugendrewable 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@tork62077
@tork62077 4 жыл бұрын
Good video thanks
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
Here's more detailed setup and first drive video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pb5liaR5vrnNemQ.html
@Foxy86_part2..kin92
@Foxy86_part2..kin92 3 жыл бұрын
My 86. Ugh such a fun headache . Trick flow upper . Kit then mad conversion now car barely want to turn on
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
Use the wiring diagram here to get you in the right direction. The early cars are probably going to use different wire colors, though. www.holley.com/blog/post/how_to_install_a_holley_terminator_x_efi_system_on_a_foxbody_mustang/
@MrBlackbutang
@MrBlackbutang 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks spooln272
@kevin_nagle
@kevin_nagle 2 жыл бұрын
@2:03 The plastic cover does not have to be removed. Simply pull the relay, ground terminal & plugs through first and the 60 pin connector will come through last.
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing the tip!
@backtheblue6112
@backtheblue6112 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mustang-Geek I have a complete spare harness I started taking apart to remove the air bag harness and gauge connector. I’m guessing the a/c will not work now with this setup?
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 2 жыл бұрын
@@backtheblue6112 No, but you can get it working again with this harness: www.currentperformance.com/shop/holley-terminator-ac-module/
@duane9707
@duane9707 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent vid! One of the best I've seen re: the fox body. I assume the holley system does not control emissions/egr? Thanks.
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
Correct. It is for racing vehicles.
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
You can also see detailed photos and a digram in the current issue of Mustang Hub Magazine: www.wesduenkel.com/published/2020/7/21/holley-terminator-x-for-fox-body-mustang-technical-article
@PeakPerformanceEngineering
@PeakPerformanceEngineering Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! So you were able to completely remove the original engine computer? It doesnt control the AC or any other functions like that? I just pulled my stock engine out and am getting ready add the Terminator and need to go through the stock harness and keep my airbags, lights, AC stuff, etc. I'm doing it on a SN95 with the 5.0
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek Жыл бұрын
The Terminator X replaces the factory computer.
@scottwienandt1797
@scottwienandt1797 4 жыл бұрын
In the instructions holley specifically says power and ground directly to battery for main power and ground.
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
They do. I didn't want to mangle my ring terminals every time I disconnect/reconnect my battery (which I do a lot), so I just connected them to the battery cables coming directly from the battery. But, you're welcome to do it differently.
@scottwienandt1797
@scottwienandt1797 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mustang-Geek it's just you may run into problems with noise frequency with the holley the battery acts as a filter.
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
@@scottwienandt1797 Roger that. Good point.
@5literfox89
@5literfox89 3 жыл бұрын
You can type the numbers in that cubic inches box instead of going one at a time. Just push the box.
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I realized that after I made the video. Shows how much of a noob I was when I installed the system. If I can do it, ANYONE can do it :)
@jasonlulgjuraj3672
@jasonlulgjuraj3672 4 жыл бұрын
On the Holley screen U can click on the number to type it in so you don’t have to scroll
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
Ha! Yes, I realized that after I became more familiar with the handheld. But, just like I said in the video: this was the FIRST time I was using it! I was really pleased how well the car ran right out of the box.
@jasonlulgjuraj3672
@jasonlulgjuraj3672 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mustang-Geek yea there soo good for the money!
@kevin_nagle
@kevin_nagle 2 жыл бұрын
@7:35 DO NOT ATTACH THE RED BATTERY POSITIVE LEAD ANYWHERE EXCEPT THE BATTERY! DIRECT TO THE BATTERY, NOT TO A STARTER SOLENOID, NOT TO A JUNCTION/DISTRIBUTION POST DIRECTLY TO THE BATTERY! Follow the Holley instructions, they are there for a reason. Attaching the main power leads anywhere but the battery is asking for problems. MOUNT THE MAIN POWER LEADS DIRECTLY TO THE BATTERY!
@KhariRoyalty
@KhariRoyalty 11 ай бұрын
Def says that in the manual several times
@edgararevalo7081
@edgararevalo7081 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid I jus did the install on my fox I'm still trying to figure out how to hook it up to my laptop
@mustangsquad3029
@mustangsquad3029 4 жыл бұрын
You will need a can bus to usb adapter like this one www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/sniper_efi/sniper_efi_service_components/parts/558-443 and if you want to run this and the small screen you will need a Y cable like this www.efisystempro.com/can-bus-y-cable-sniper-terminator-x
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
Here's more detailed setup and first drive video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pb5liaR5vrnNemQ.html
@timothywilliams9556
@timothywilliams9556 4 жыл бұрын
Nice 👍
@timothywilliams9556
@timothywilliams9556 4 жыл бұрын
Do you install them? And how much
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
@@timothywilliams9556 $1200 www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/terminator_x/terminator_x_and_x_max_ford_kits/terminator_x_ford_kits/parts/550-937F
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
Here's more detailed setup and first drive video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pb5liaR5vrnNemQ.html
@jakub584
@jakub584 Жыл бұрын
Can you explain more on how you connected your oil pressure and coolant temp to the stock gauges.
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek Жыл бұрын
I just wired them directly to the gauges by bypassing the "salt and pepper shaker connectors." Once you remove the factory engine harness, it becomes kinda obvious.
@bryanleverett2830
@bryanleverett2830 3 жыл бұрын
Great video !! Only small thing is.... holley says like 12 times in the instructions that the main power needs to goto the battery positive and battery negative DIRECTLY ON THE BATTERY. I hope you never find out how touchy these holley ECU’s are, but I’m shocked no one has mentioned it. For anyone using this as a guide, put the main power/grounds DIRECTLY on the battery. Again, really awesome you took the time to post this to help everyone :)
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
It's to avoid RF noise. Feel free to connect your power wire directly to the battery terminal. Mine works great with it connected directly to the battery cable at the starter solenoid, but if you want to connect yours directly to the battery, go for it!
@bryanleverett2830
@bryanleverett2830 3 жыл бұрын
FixBody Mustangs the battery dampens surges in the electrical system that holley says can damage the ecu. Holley also says “If you don’t hook them up directly to the battery, and you have a ecu fail, don’t even call us”. All the people that do this professionally go bananas ( search “Devon holley” on KZfaq) when they see the main power hooked up anywhere but the battery. Now..... can you act like holley are just saying to be jerks and you know better than the company that built it, and it work? Sure. You just did. But if you ecu stops connecting in 2 months and the car won’t start, don’t be mad at holley when you mail them the ecu and they say, “It’s bad. It’s not covered under warranty because it was clearly hit with a power surge”. I’m not saying YOU shouldn’t do it how ever you want. I would say, prob not great to tell everyone watching this to disobey a corner stone of what holley says like 8 times in the instructions (I guess for no reason, lol).
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
@@bryanleverett2830 OK. This is a video how _I_ did it. If you want to do it differently, that's great.
@billyblastbv
@billyblastbv 3 жыл бұрын
Great Vid Wes. I was wondering and maybe I missed something but did you fully remove your stock ECU, and if so are all of your stock gauges working based on the couple wiring tricks you showed with the Oil sensor etc... How did you wire up your airbags to work? Did you use the AUX inputs/outputs in the TermX? Thanks in advance, Subbed!
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
I fully removed the factory ECU. The gauges work completely independently, so that's not a problem. (The ECU has its own temp sensor, that is replaced with one for the Holley Terminator X.) The air bag wiring is separate as well, I but since it was loomed with the MAF harness, I had to pull them apart. I am not currently using any inputs/outputs...yet. Should I add nitrous?
@garycili6989
@garycili6989 4 жыл бұрын
A week late for me but vert well done. 👍
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
Here's more detailed setup and first drive video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pb5liaR5vrnNemQ.html
@35nomoon
@35nomoon Жыл бұрын
WOW that was 10x easier than my Holley I got 3 yrs ago for my mustang.
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek Жыл бұрын
It was pretty easy! Please like and subscribe!
@vandettabuilds6641
@vandettabuilds6641 3 жыл бұрын
You have a new subscriber in SLC Utah. This is the best detailed video on doing this install!!!! I have a 1996 F1 50 with a 302 engine I just built can I run this system on my truck?
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome and good question! I recall your intake faces the other way on F150s, but I think there is enough slack in the harness to make it work. I suggest trial-fitting the harness first to see if it will work before going through the rest of the installation process.
@vandettabuilds6641
@vandettabuilds6641 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mustang-Geek okay thank you!!!
@HalfCutGarage
@HalfCutGarage Жыл бұрын
im stumped with the 8 pin green plug(rectangle) beside the ecu. and the 8 pin by the alternator(round black) that goes down the front of the engine . the f kit was discontinued so a had to order the regular kit ..... appreciate any insight you can provide!
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek Жыл бұрын
Depending upon the year, the green plug next to the ECU can be used to tap into the fuel pump wiring. The best solution is to find a wiring diagram for your year Mustang.
@victorsalomon3305
@victorsalomon3305 3 жыл бұрын
Great video tnks for the info! Question tho, the fuel relay must stay in place in order for the fuel pump to work?
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
If I understand your question: no. The factory fuel pump relay can be removed. The Holley relay in the kick panel is the only relay that's being used.
@barryingram2009
@barryingram2009 3 жыл бұрын
Great details! Have you integrated the ac system if so how? I'm looking into that option
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
I have not yet. At the very least, you need to run a relay between the A/C controls and the pressure switch.
@SmokedTirez
@SmokedTirez 3 жыл бұрын
In your video I dont see where you had any issues getting the IAC working yet I see that others had to use a noid light and change the PWM parameters to getting theirs working...Did your stock 2 wire IAC work without any extra fiddling?? Seeings those carpets emit alot of static discharge in the winter Im interested in how mounting the ECU under the seat is gonna work out..
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
I had the problem, but my understanding is that it's rare. I didn't include it because I didn't want to confuse people who don't have the issue. It seems to be a weird bug that only a few people have experienced. Regardless, changing the IAC setting using the software is pretty simple. Here is how to do it: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oc16n69_rprcgGg.html
@spoolinsvt6489
@spoolinsvt6489 Жыл бұрын
Very detailed, love it. Been watching a ton of your videos the last few days. What did you do for the gauges? I was under the impression that factory gauges would not work with a Termi x set up? Or maybe that was just in my 97 cobra?
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek Жыл бұрын
On a fox, the gauges are all independently run. Maybe the SN95 mod motor Cobras are different...
@spoolinsvt6489
@spoolinsvt6489 Жыл бұрын
@@Mustang-Geek Yeah i was thinking that after I wrote it. The later ford were electronic which makes everything more of a headache. Love your fox by the way. Looks like a very fun build
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek Жыл бұрын
@@spoolinsvt6489 Thanks! Post this channel on your social media feeds :)
@marcusfabiousmaximus3463
@marcusfabiousmaximus3463 3 жыл бұрын
Can you come install it in my boosted LX....great video
@WesDuenkel
@WesDuenkel 3 жыл бұрын
If you watch the video, I practically do the work for you :)
@enchantedwenis4994
@enchantedwenis4994 4 жыл бұрын
Can somebody please tell me if the 92-97 4r70w harness connector labeled as “OSS/VSS” in the manual connector plugs into the “OSS” sensor or “VSS” sensor. If in the “VSS” sensor can someone please tell me if it matters how many teeth the plastic driven gear needs. I’ve plugged into both and both have vehicle speed readings not at close to actually speed
@jeffreymerland2327
@jeffreymerland2327 3 жыл бұрын
Can you explain how you connected the oil pressure connector on the new harness to the stock oil sending unit ?
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
I did not connect the factory oil pressure sender to the Holley harness. That would require a separate sensor that is compatible with the Holley EFI system. I just connected the oil pressure sender for the factory gauge.
@Droptop_50
@Droptop_50 4 жыл бұрын
I'm confused on the green wire for the fuel pump without bypassing it threw c216 what wire on the stock fuel pump relay do I tap it into it's on a 91 gt as well
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
The green wire from the relay goes directly to the fuel pump, so you'd be connecting the green wire from the Holley harness to the green wire coming out of the relay connector. Here's a diagram: www.dropbox.com/s/p8e4hsq9ohuqbhy/014-holley-terminator-x-foxbody-mustang-install.jpg?dl=0
@775automotive9
@775automotive9 3 жыл бұрын
Do you end up removing the wiring that goes to the ignition coil? Does Holley provide that side of the harness? I couldn’t tell by the video. I ordered mine and I’m just trying to prepare myself so when I get mine in, even though it’s on back order so who knows when I’ll get it.
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
See if the wiring diagram here helps: www.holley.com/blog/post/how_to_install_a_holley_terminator_x_efi_system_on_a_foxbody_mustang/
@ronneal5464
@ronneal5464 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Does the Holley only have three different injector sizes? Jw I have 60lbs
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 2 жыл бұрын
The menu has lots of options. 60 lb/hr should be no problem.
@codyriecken1474
@codyriecken1474 Жыл бұрын
I don’t have the brownish plug I have a grey one and a black one and from the research I did only the 92-93 fox body have that
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek Жыл бұрын
Just use a test light or google a wiring diagram for your year model. It's not that tough.
@michaeljones3972
@michaeljones3972 2 жыл бұрын
I just installed the holy terminator X in my 88 mustang what settings should I use for the ford performance 24lb injectors and I’m not sure what settings to use for the cam I have a b303 cam shaft
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 2 жыл бұрын
Select 24 lb/hr injectors from the wizard (I think factory ford injectors are an option). I'd pick the cam option that's one step up from stock.
@kennethhein3710
@kennethhein3710 4 жыл бұрын
I’m debating on getting the kit I have a 1986 thunderbird with the 5.0 in it right now it’s speed density but I have the mass airflow harness to change it to mass air but I was going to make it a strip car so I wanted to get away from the old computer and get a nice upgrade instead of just getting a a9l computer what would need I have to do to make it work it’s basically a fox
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
If you're going to make it a "strip car," I assume this won't be a stock engine. This is EXACTLY what the Terminator X is designed for. The Terminator X will be a lot less headaches in the long run than the factory computer. Especially considering that the factory computer's capacitors are on borrowed time, if they haven't failed already. I'd go with the Terminator X without hesitation.
@anthony8194
@anthony8194 2 жыл бұрын
I have it wired similar to yours but I'm not getting spark at the coil. Coil + wire (red/green) to red/green at connector and negative - green wire to tan wire spliced into the white wire. Just cranks no start
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 2 жыл бұрын
This diagram should help (You also need red/white wire to positive side of the coil.) kzfaq.info/love/eJaO0ySaJ07Igg-qgMWvPQcommunity?lb=UgyMR72JMcb7LD1LlsF4AaABCQ
@anthony8194
@anthony8194 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mustang-Geek the red/white wire in the book says it needs to go to the fuse box
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 2 жыл бұрын
@@anthony8194 It needs switched power. The wire in the diagram is switched and fused. It's fine.
@bobsmith-st9lq
@bobsmith-st9lq 4 жыл бұрын
Did you move the o2 sensor to holleys recommended orientation. My sensors point up 1990 and Holley says down for condensation. Installing mine soon, been waiting on shipping.
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
No, I didn't relocate the bung from stock, but you raise a good point. Since that location is so close to the engine, the sensors get plenty hot there so condensation shouldn't be an issue.
@camgiggety12
@camgiggety12 2 жыл бұрын
I just ordered mine for my 89 if I’m not using the factory dash how would I wire the Holley terminator to the factory ignition coil?
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 2 жыл бұрын
Does this help? images.holley.com/014-holley-terminator-x-foxbody-mustang-install.jpg
@aaronsmith3291
@aaronsmith3291 3 жыл бұрын
I'm installing mine now. I think I noticed that the coil connects to the solenoid. If I saw that right, does it start connected to the solenoid and I just splice into the wires?
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
No, the coil is not connected to the solenoid. It has its own power source, noted in the wiring digram here: www.holley.com/blog/post/how_to_install_a_holley_terminator_x_efi_system_on_a_foxbody_mustang/
@marcusfabiousmaximus3463
@marcusfabiousmaximus3463 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful, What did you do for your A/C system and relays?
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
My A/C system isn't hooked up. I'd try googling it. Haven't gotten that far yet, but when I do, I'll post a video.
@jonbinkley5389
@jonbinkley5389 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to know if this would work on my 1994 F150 5.0L. I am praying it will!!! ANY INFO would be highly appreciated. GREAT VIDEO and now i am a new subscriber. God Bless
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
I think that will work. The trucks may have some components in different locations, but overall, it's very close to a Mustang. The harness with the Terminator X is pretty long, so it should reach everything.
@kylerobinson6102
@kylerobinson6102 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mustang-Geek I also think it will work... I don't see why it wouldn't to be honest.
@BarrettAutoLife
@BarrettAutoLife 2 жыл бұрын
It's possible.
@750gsxrjay
@750gsxrjay 3 жыл бұрын
How did you connect the alternator for it to charge also did you connect the A/C compressor.
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
The Terminator X does not affect the alternator wiring. It's wired up just like normal. My A/C system isn't hooked up. I'd try googling it. Haven't gotten that far yet, but when I do, I'll post a video.
@Scrapla1
@Scrapla1 Жыл бұрын
I heard you need to buy a separate wiring kit to keep your factory A/C. What did you do? Does your A/C still work?
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek Жыл бұрын
I never fiddled with the A/C because the whole system needed to be replaced. But yes, there is an A/C relay that someone makes for Terminator X. Just google it.
@PrestigeDentRemoval
@PrestigeDentRemoval 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid imfo,...Sold stock harness before i can get wires out. What other options do i have. Im running on3 turbo
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
No need to have the OEM harness. Just hook it up like the diagram I posted in the next comment below.
@PrestigeDentRemoval
@PrestigeDentRemoval 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mustang-Geek Thank you
@joshuacastleberry1431
@joshuacastleberry1431 Жыл бұрын
I know this is old but I can’t find any information. Hopefully you will get this. How do you still run a factory radiator fan with the terminator x installed?
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek Жыл бұрын
I used the stock mechanical fan.
@chuck_machine
@chuck_machine 4 жыл бұрын
Great video - thank you for posting it! Did I see this correctly - does the Holley Terminator system use the Mass Air sensor? If not, wouldn't that make it a speed density system?
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, the default setup of the Holley Terminator is "speed density." The MAF is not used. I left the MAF installed because it is an "adapter" from the intake tube to the air filter. I could get a different filter or find a different coupler, but whatever.
@chuck_machine
@chuck_machine 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mustang-Geek Got it. It just seems odd that they don't use the Mass Air. That was really the big advantage to these engines originally. Seems like it would only help the Terminator to know how much air is being pulled into the engine as a way of measuring load & demand. Thanks for the reply!
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
@@chuck_machine A MAF is great with narrow band oxygen sensors, as WOT open loop fueling is more accurate with a MAF. But the wide-band O2 sensor with the Holley Terminator makes a MAF less useful. Consider that the new 2020 Shelby GT500 is speed density!
@chuck_machine
@chuck_machine 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mustang-Geek Interesting. Did not know that about the role of O2 sensor and Mass Air or the new Shelbys- learn something every day!
@DieselRamcharger
@DieselRamcharger 2 жыл бұрын
@@chuck_machine maf is calibrated to a flow range. once you exceed that range, the maf is worthless. not ideal for a one size fits all efi system.
@jasonperez4258
@jasonperez4258 Жыл бұрын
Do you have part numbers for the sensors you had to buy to make this work I’m installing the harness currently
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek Жыл бұрын
I didn't have to buy any sensors to get it to work. The kit comes with the needed sensors, however, I did purchase a fuel pressure sensor from Holley for the fuel pressure function, but it's not necessary.
@MrMikestang63
@MrMikestang63 4 жыл бұрын
curious.. i didnt see options for 60 # injectors . MSD, or larger MAF?
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure what the max injector size is, but you can select a bunch of different injectors. Holley 48 lb/hr are listed. If by "MSD" you mean ignition, the Terminator X works with any external box like an MSD. I don't have one...just the stock TFI. There is no MAF with the Terminator X. The Terminator X is speed density with wideband O2 feedback.
@fordtechlife
@fordtechlife 4 жыл бұрын
Good Video guys thanks new Subscriber here 💪🇺🇸🔧👍🚘🔴🦊🔥
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
Here's more detailed setup and first drive video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pb5liaR5vrnNemQ.html
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
For anyone who needs more help with the wiring, here's a diagram: www.dropbox.com/s/p8e4hsq9ohuqbhy/014-holley-terminator-x-foxbody-mustang-install.jpg?dl=0
@michaeltexmjs6420
@michaeltexmjs6420 4 ай бұрын
Hi, so you connected the 12v switched Red/Green from the C110 plug wire to the Red/White Holley wire? Thanks!
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 ай бұрын
Check this diagram out: yt3.ggpht.com/-b_c90RDPNyhrLvlCY4h1G-j7sIGHr-jPAKPY6nTSPxnyORBb4NUkOFXfrA99WFyc_rA0wOV2TtNtw=s1600-nd-v1
@michaeltexmjs6420
@michaeltexmjs6420 4 ай бұрын
@@Mustang-Geek excellent! It would be nice if Holley would include this diagram.
@dsrhectiic4739
@dsrhectiic4739 2 жыл бұрын
what did you do for volleys fuel pressure sensor? just leave it unplugged?
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 2 жыл бұрын
I used Holley's fuel pressure sensor.
@jasonvitagliano6267
@jasonvitagliano6267 3 жыл бұрын
Hello there sir and great video BTW but I'm unsure about one part...how to retain and wire oem coil. Old harness is out and followed the wires coming from the coil. I see how the neg side goes to tfi and main harness and 110 conn so just run tfi wire to white wire on holley and cut the other and plug the 110 in? Pos goes to 110, 2 wires to tfi and 1 to a relay by kick panel. How do I wire it to get spark? And I assume keep the inline fuse with it with the grounds that are close by??
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
Does this wiring digram help? images.holley.com/014-holley-terminator-x-foxbody-mustang-install.jpg
@jasonvitagliano6267
@jasonvitagliano6267 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mustang-Geek ok so understanding idea here. I know coil operation is a simple concept just not very smart on wiring issues. So turning key sends signal through the 110 into the coil giving spark and neg keeps my tach gauge working. Just one more thing, one of the red pos wires goes from coil to a relay in kick panel by the old ecu. Do I retain that? Just dont wanna damage any components or fry something lol!
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
​@@jasonvitagliano6267 I think I removed that relay and connected it to the Holley red/white. Turn on the key and see if there is power to the red/green wire in the kick panel.
@TheNote408
@TheNote408 4 жыл бұрын
I'm getting ready to install mine this weekend I watched your video couple times and I read the instruction manual a couple times it says if you want to keep your OEM coil that you need to get a relay and it says how to wire it did you have to do that to keep your OEM coil... Looks like in your video you just ran a couple wires from the coil...I even bought a coil pigtail cause I want to keep my factory harness so I can sell it
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't use a relay between the coil + and the Terminator switched 12V + wire.
@TheNote408
@TheNote408 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mustang-Geek ok thanks...great video by the way.
@jaimecisneros8037
@jaimecisneros8037 3 жыл бұрын
Question I’m kinda stuck here. Would this be considered a dirty connection as per the Holley instructions? Running red/white 12v wire to positive coil. Thanks
@jakub584
@jakub584 Жыл бұрын
Such as did you just splice the wire to the connector
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek Жыл бұрын
I think it's how you describe. Basically, you're just bypassing the engine harness because it's removed.
@christianohh2971
@christianohh2971 2 жыл бұрын
Hey question on the Oz sensor do you read one or two
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 2 жыл бұрын
It comes with one.
@JI-pp1dg
@JI-pp1dg Ай бұрын
i am in the middle of installing my holley terminator x max, i’m stuck. I watching the video which helped my question is i have the green wire that is for the fuel pump wired to the fuel pump at the relay under my front seat, i’m unclear on where to pick up my 12v switched wire from. and it looks like since i’m basically using a factory style coil i also need to get a relay and power the + side of my coil, why did you connect the green wire for fuel pump in the kick plate?
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek Ай бұрын
I'm not sure if I totally understand your question. You can pick up a 12V switched wire anywhere, really. I connected the fuel pump wire in the kick panel because it was convenient and led to the OEM relay wiring under the seat. But, it seems like what you did will work just fine as well.
@JI-pp1dg
@JI-pp1dg Ай бұрын
@@Mustang-Geek the holley manual says the 12v switched needs to have power when you are cranking, i’m able to locate a 12v source but as soon as i turn the key as too start it my light goes out on my test light
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek Ай бұрын
Does this wiring digram help? kzfaq.info/love/eJaO0ySaJ07Igg-qgMWvPQcommunity?lb=UgyMR72JMcb7LD1LlsF4AaABCQ
@MoTaRDvlog
@MoTaRDvlog 3 жыл бұрын
Stupid question, is the factory ecu used at all, or is it completely replaced by the terminator-x system?
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
Not a stupid question. It is completely replaced.
@MoTaRDvlog
@MoTaRDvlog 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mustang-Geek highly appreciated my friend, keep up the good work!
@stevey5713
@stevey5713 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Regarding the blue vacuum line...What the heck is a quick-turn adapter and where do I get one?
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
Haha! I had the same question. It's included with the kit. It's clear plastic, and in one of the little bags.
@stevey5713
@stevey5713 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mustang-Geek There's my problem...It must be missing from my kit. I was also missing the hardware to mount the EEC to the plate. Guess I will call Holley. Thanks for the quick reply!!
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevey5713 Mine didn't have any hardware to mount the ECU to the plate. Check ALL the bags. Mine was in with the O2 sensor clamp or something I think.
@stevey5713
@stevey5713 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mustang-Geek You da man! That is exactly where it was, in the O2 bung bag. They need to make that adapter bright red, haha. Thanks again!
@Drives88
@Drives88 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, are you still happy with it?
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Very much so. This helped a lot: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fJhxg9Ojz5rOlYk.html
@vasiliskatsaras1014
@vasiliskatsaras1014 9 ай бұрын
Is the IAC pigtail part of the terminator x harness ?
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 8 ай бұрын
The Terminator X harness plugs into the factory IAC.
@gregbrzostko7930
@gregbrzostko7930 3 жыл бұрын
Will this work with 42lb injectors? I have the Bosch green top 42lb I didnt see it on the list when you were setting up the system. Thanks
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know to be honest. You can also use the free laptop software to put the specs in for your injectors. I'd google that.
@gregbrzostko7930
@gregbrzostko7930 3 жыл бұрын
Ok cool good idea I'll try that
@joshuacornelius1389
@joshuacornelius1389 Жыл бұрын
I'm regards to the switched power source. Did you run the coil positive back to same wire the red and white is spliced to? Or did you use two different wires?
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek Жыл бұрын
At 5:47, I explain this. Both coil + and 12v+ switched run off same wire.
@joshuacornelius1389
@joshuacornelius1389 Жыл бұрын
@@Mustang-Geek just wanted to make sure I heard right. It's kind of confusing cause the holley directions say not to run the red and white to coil... but then you read farther down it says to hook it to positive side of coil?!
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek Жыл бұрын
@@joshuacornelius1389 Not sure exactly what the instructions say, but this worked for me.
@mustangjoe2066
@mustangjoe2066 4 жыл бұрын
My million dollar question after all this!!will the tfi module on the distributor still over heat and leave you strained??
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
Then use a different distributor. My DUI TFI distributor works great!
@mustangjoe2066
@mustangjoe2066 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mustang-Geek in will look into that,im using the screaming demon coil!excellent coil!
@albertobadillo4367
@albertobadillo4367 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t have a fox but an f150 would it be almost the same?
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure. For one, the intake manifold is pointed the other way...
@stang140mph3
@stang140mph3 3 жыл бұрын
How different is this instal from a Holley hp efi I have that I need to install
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure. If your HP has a specific harness for the Mustang, it is probably similar.
@jamesw576
@jamesw576 4 жыл бұрын
What’s the difference, does it run better, more power? Faster? I have a stock 89 GT,
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
If your car is stock, and runs well, there's not much reason to install this system. However, if you plan to add a cam, supercharger, nitrous, larger fuel injectors, or other parts that would require a chip, the Terminator X is the best option. I plan on adding a supercharger, so the Terminator X made sense. Here's a driving video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pb5liaR5vrnNemQ.html
@rob5oh
@rob5oh 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! How does it run and start after you have had it on for a few weeks?
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
Very well! I had to make a few adjustments, and I'll show those in a follow-up video.
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
Follow me on Instagram (@wesduenkel) for short Foxbody Mustang videos and updates.
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek 4 жыл бұрын
Here's more detailed setup and first drive video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pb5liaR5vrnNemQ.html
@706Racing
@706Racing Ай бұрын
How long did it take you to install? Thinking about doing this to my 92 gt!!
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek Ай бұрын
It took me a weekend to install. If you can install a car stereo, this isn' much harder.
@willboastrum4701
@willboastrum4701 Жыл бұрын
Hey man I have a couple questions for you if you don’t mind. I plan on doing this to a 1989 mustang. It was a four cylinder, but I plan on putting a 1994 5.0 mustang engine it it as well as the auto trans it was mated to from ford. my first question is will the terminator max work with this transmission? I know you have a terminator x, but I don’t think it’s to different from the max. it’s a 4r70w I think. I could be wrong. my second question is will the terminator work with a newer 5.0 engine into a 88 fox? I know you bypassed the salt and pepper injector connectors, but the 94 didn’t have them as far as I know. and I’m not to sure of the other connectors I might need to make custom. I have most of the engine wiring harnesses, as well as the old ecm from the 94 mustang. The only problem is that the 94 was an auto and for some reason had a manual ecm. Which is strange. I’m kinda new to fox body’s and Holley. so I am very very confused about what I need to do. Thanks!
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek Жыл бұрын
Great questions. I'll do my best: The stock transmission in the 1994 Mustang is technically an AOD-E. While my understanding is the AODE is very similar to a 4R70W it's not exactly the same. I'm not sure if the Term X Max will control it. I'd ask the Holley tech line about that. On the wiring, you're going to have to use wiring diagrams for both the Fox and the 1994 Mustang to figure out what each wire does (what the colors mean). Hope that helps!
@willboastrum4701
@willboastrum4701 Жыл бұрын
@@Mustang-Geek thanks! A couple more questions if you don’t mind. will the wiring harnesses be interchangeable? cause if I’m running the Holley, I don’t think I’ll need most of the wiring harnesses under the hood right?
@Mustang-Geek
@Mustang-Geek Жыл бұрын
@@willboastrum4701 You'll basically need to identify a few wires in your Fox's harness (off the top of my head) switched power, coil +, coil -, etc. The terminator X harness covers everything after that. You'll also need to find the wire that goes to the fuel pump relay and jump the relay under the seat.
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