DIY Budget Forged (Chopped Strand) Carbon Skinning- 370Z panels! Read description before attempting!
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3 жыл бұрынI decided to keep rolling with some carbon fiber work but wanted to take it up a notch. That said here comes the Forged (Chopped Strand) Carbon skinning!! This stuff was a pain to do but I definitely learned a lot from this project!!
MAKE SURE TO USE HIGH TEMP RESIN. I didn’t given this was my first attempt and after about 6 months the heat clouded the resin bad. I am exploring new options for resin currently to fix these panels.
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Chopped Strand Carbon Skinning Process:
between 65-75 *F
Key surface with 40-60 grit to ensure proper adhesion
Evenly spread epoxy resin across the panel. Let set for 2 hrs to achieve a good tack
Apply carbon across the panel
Let cure for another 2 hrs after applying carbon fiber
Shake loose material from the part
Apply 1st layer of topcoat resin
Cover panel in "peel ply" material and smooth out
Vacuum bag part (optional)
Let cure for over 8hrs
De nib and sand/key entire surface with 120grit sandpaper
Apply 2-3 more layers of topcoat resin each 2hrs apart or 8hrs apart
Let cure for over 8 hrs and sand/key entire surface flat with 100-240 grit sandpaper
Clean the surface and apply 2 thin layers of topcoat resin 2hrs apart
Let cure again for over 8 hrs and wet sand surface with 400/800/1200 grit sandpaper
The surface is now ready for ceramic coating protection
Or
Wet sand surface with 400/600 grit sandpaper
The surface is now ready for clear coat protection
@csmers3743 3 жыл бұрын
Another awesome vid man!!! I always look forward to your vids, as you think outside of the box, and the outcome is always perfection!!! Using the shop vac and seal bags is pure genius, as the real setup could easily run hundreds!! Keep up the great content 👍🏾💯
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it brother! Just trying to be cost effective out here. I will get a proper setup eventually but do random parts, the bag and vacuum is to easy!!
@50thcam 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best diy video for carbon fiber i have seen. This has made me make the jump to try my own carbon skinning. Love the cheap alternatives you've found. Liked and subbed
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words! It’s a lot of fun and I highly recommend anyone try it out! Be sure to follow the IG @ _foxcraze and send pictures of anything you create!!
@jayelectic8017 2 жыл бұрын
Same!! Just make sure you dont put too much resin before putting the lining hahaha mine got stuck! But i used a heat gun to take it off and it worked lol
@IronMannara 2 жыл бұрын
Hi brother . So today I peeled of my fleece and peel ply . It seems this is the 2nd time I've done this now and when I peel off the peel ply it rips off the carbon from the piece . I keyed and scratched up the furnace piece really good. Not sure why this keeps happening ? Any insight would be greatly appreciated
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
Hit me up on Instagram.
@slaughterhousechi 2 жыл бұрын
This is my first time looking into it. Glad to see your comment!
@gamercoolapple1 3 жыл бұрын
Literally first time I hit like on a video do things right and for the budget like most of us do thank you!
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
I’m all about budget, cause I do not have the cash to get stuff done by the “pros” lol
@gamercoolapple1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Foxcraze hell yeah I mean hey you become a pro some how looks good keep up the good work subscribed as most of us can't pay pros that's why we watch this haha
@mariorios9463 3 жыл бұрын
Looks amazing and great info thanks and keep it up, love the budget tips that I will be sure to use doing my project. I am a subscriber after that video lol 👍🏼
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it man, I have to make more time to do the other forged parts for his car next lol
@rocketsurgeon1746 3 жыл бұрын
Great economy tips! Polyester and fleece. Thanks
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
No problem!
@nyanmira5602 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome work! I'm planning to do this to a 350z rocket bunny body kit. I've worked with fiber glass before but this will be my first time with carbon and epoxy.
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
I was intimidated as hell before I began but after getting it started, It was smooth sailing! Knock it out and add me on IG so I can see the progress/results!
@johnnylsx3384 2 жыл бұрын
Liked and subscribed! Dude, we are definitely of the same mindset! I have a 1971 C10 that Im doing a ton of carbon work on. The inner fenders are Kevlar impregnated carbon twill, the front and rear bumpers are 2x2 twill and the grill/headlight surrounds will also be 2x2 twill. Ive also made several delete plates and switch plates. I tend to lay my in a fiberglass mold that I make but I use the method you used here too.
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it, I want to do some overlays on abs plastic but I know thermal expansion is an issue. so Im researching bonding methods to make it hopefully work. I have long term concerns of these delaminating but time will tell. I want to make molds for certain things as well just gotta do my research and figure out what will work for my needs and still be budget friendly.
@sinformant 3 жыл бұрын
Man I love how you show how to do it on a budget!
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a regular guy too! I don’t have the cash for that fancy stuff yet,so budget is where it’s at!
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
Be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already! Lots of other budget stuff coming down the pipe!
@gregwhaley4017 2 жыл бұрын
Disclaimer: I’m not really a huge fan of “skinning” parts for purely aesthetic reasons because it’s truly the complete opposite of why carbon fiber components are generally created. Weight savings. Although I’ve watched many videos in preparation for upcoming projects, I’ve never actually attempted any carbon fiber projects, yet. But I do have plans to give it a try in the next few months. Based on this particular part, I don’t think it would have been too difficult to create a mold of your original and then create 100% carbon fiber parts. You would then have the weight savings and a mold to produce additional parts to sell. Or you could sell the mold so that someone else could produce them. This is strictly my personal opinion only, and not meant in a negative way, at all. Having said all of that, I absolutely enjoyed watching the process and how you improvised when possible/necessary. Subscribed.
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
I have been looking into how to mold parts, and might try it one day! I dont disagree with anything you said here at all. I would have loved to do them in pure carbon but didn’t have the capability; that said after skinning the weight difference really wasn’t much at all after sanding it all down. Thank you for subscribing and have a great Sunday!
@couchtours8323 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing!!! This has helped me finally understand some of the missing links! 👍 on finding alternatives
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to be of help. Be advised if your gonna do under hood parts make sure you buy a high temp rated resin. I will be redoing these this fall due to issues that arose from the heat limit of the resin being exceeded.
@couchtours8323 3 жыл бұрын
@@Foxcraze thanks for the heads up! I’m wanting to try and skin the chrome trim on our Tesla model s. Going to start with a small piece and see how it goes before messing a big trim piece up 😆
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
That’s always a great idea, I did a small pvc test panel first before jumping into a larger part as well. I wish you the best of luck!
@R1CEBWL 2 жыл бұрын
After watching this I figured I would give it an attempt.. bought the exact same material you did at hobby lobby polyester underlining.. after I laid this down and let it dry the next day I went to peel it off and it was super glued to the surface.. after some brute strength ripping it left me with a ton of polyester fibers stuck to the carbon.. I hit it with a sander and completely removed everything then tried it again this time using wax paper and it worked so much better
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm that’s odd. I have used this material on everything and have had zero issues like that. But hey glad the wax paper worked out! I just saw your message and Instagram and hit you back.
@melvincoleman8008 Жыл бұрын
I didn't even know about the vacuum bag trick. Thanks for that !!!
@Foxcraze Жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@gbitencourt 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic job! You are very resourceful.
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!!
@jonast.5438 3 жыл бұрын
This Video helped me a lot. Thanks man!
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
No problem if you end up making something, give me a follow on Instagram and show me what you made!!
@eadinmitchell9682 3 жыл бұрын
You need more recognition bro insane work ! Followed your guide to make my fiberglass speaker enclosure
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
Dang!! Thanks for the kind words!! I will keep going and learning and teaching what I discover as I go! Feel free to share the channel to all your buddies!! Haha
@eadinmitchell9682 3 жыл бұрын
@@Foxcraze it’s the truth bro about to redo my plastics under my hood now with some forged carbon!
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
Hit me up on Instagram @ _foxcraze would love to see the enclosure!
@chaddelano3859 2 жыл бұрын
Pritiey slick i like the fact that you just jammed it together prity fast and it came out nice.
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@antoniobendherazz4458 3 ай бұрын
OMG the vacuum bag was genius!! Liked and subbed.
@Foxcraze 3 ай бұрын
Yeah man works great every time!!
@Fuelcut 3 жыл бұрын
Man great job, that is so sick!
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it! Will be doing more carbon stuff this fall.
@highrollinsocal3214 3 жыл бұрын
Cool video bro! Love the content my man
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate it a lot!
@Niskovic1 3 жыл бұрын
Dude that looks insane! I'm going to start doing some smaller parts in forged carbon to learn and i have some questions. Do you buy a bag of carbon fiber all chopped up like that or do you just buy the cheapest carbon fiber sheet and cut it ramdomly? This is actually a great video keep up the good work.
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that man! I bought the carbon shredded already and the link to it is in the description. You could cut it yourself but it’s not any cheaper than just buying all chopped up. Any other questions you have just ask and I will do my best to answer you as soon as possible!
@freqenc 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Nice.
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, appreciate it!
@padriven Жыл бұрын
Great video!! Appreciate it!
@Foxcraze Жыл бұрын
Thank you and no problem!
@odevious8081 2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate it!
@patrickisherwood573 3 жыл бұрын
The benefit of plastic peel ply is that it isn't a woven fabric and leaves a smoother finish than a fabric peel ply and thus requires less finish work. Fabric-based peel ply is best used when you want to put additional layers of material since it leaves a textured surface that doesn't necessarily require sanding prior to another layer of material going down. Boat construction usually uses woven peel ply since it is cheaper, and the finished side is on the mold so texture left behind by the peel ply isn't visible in the finished product. Plastic peel ply is usually used for parts that are created using a positive mold, where the finished side is not made smooth by the mold (usually carbon, and more specifically pre-preg parts usually fall in this category). - Someone who use to build boats!
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
I knew there had to be a reason for the different types but wasn’t exactly sure what they were. Thank you for clarifying, the differences! this method worked in my case since I was looking for the cheapest method plus doing a little extra sanding didn’t bother me.
@patrickisherwood573 3 жыл бұрын
@@Foxcraze for sure, it came out looking good 👌
@renehiram 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!! Great walkthrough and budget tips!! Just curious about that roller, is it just a regular roller?? Or is it specific for fabrication?
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a specific set that I for some reason forgot to add to the description. I will update it in about an hour!
@SuperYellowsubmarin 3 жыл бұрын
Nice ! Get yourself some brush-on clearcoat, you will find it levels very nice and takes much less work than laminating resin for finishing.
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you and appreciate the tip!!
@SuperYellowsubmarin 3 жыл бұрын
@@Foxcraze You're very welcome. Sicomin Topclear is an excellent product for this purpose but I don't think you will find it outside of Europe
@joetroy2904 2 жыл бұрын
It’s better to polish them than to clear them. Clear coat will give you a bit of a textured finish. Polishing will give you a finish better than factory paint
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the tip! I guess if it’s not gonna be in direct sun light then clear uv protection really isn’t needed anyway!
@kkpgonzales5037 Жыл бұрын
if you want to dry it faster. put it in the oven at minimum heat. it will dry for an hour and you can apply another coat
@HarrodsGarage 3 жыл бұрын
nice, I'm getting back into fiberglassing and wouldn't mind doing some forged carbon. couldn't bring myself to doing a weave as i'll stuff it up HAHA
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
Forged is the best for no stress weave distortion lol I’m gonna be attempting honey comb next myself!
@HarrodsGarage 3 жыл бұрын
@@Foxcraze nice. Can’t wait to see it. Subscribed so I don’t miss it
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it man!
@CarPlanetGDL 3 ай бұрын
Im from Mexico, where can I buy the items and how to know how much I need? I would lik to learn and work it in my custom garage
@wellsyaknow 3 жыл бұрын
i've watched this 100 x and i can't bring myself to get started 0_0
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t think about it, just do it! Lol
@StringBanger 3 жыл бұрын
Just do it and see the light
@jcleo7120 3 жыл бұрын
Subscribed!!
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it brother!
@Mfonmars 21 күн бұрын
Great video. Did you ever find a high heat resistant resin for those panels? Thinking of doing some of my engine trim.
@Foxcraze 21 күн бұрын
If I were to try engine bay parts again, I would probably use MAX HTE. It has good reviews in regard to high heat applications.
@gamercoolapple1 3 жыл бұрын
Question if for this each time you layer up do you need to add the peel ply material or only on the first coat?
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
Only on the first coat because this is the point when all the pieces are flattened down into one solid layer of carbon. After its flat, the resin is added to strengthen, smooth out and make it shine.
@jaimetrejo2865 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid! I want to try this out for myself. I ordered the chopped carbon fiber and as it’s being shipped I want to buy what i need. Have you found a good high temp resin or know of any good ones ? trying it out on mirror caps .
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
Some of the viewers recommended wise bond deep pour resin, stonecoat countertop resin or Max HTE. I haven’t tried any of them myself but I have been seeing good things with the stonecoat and the max hte.
@bryce.5oh Ай бұрын
Do you know what size shards you got ? I don’t know whether to go with 1/4th 1/2 or 1 inch shards
@Foxcraze Ай бұрын
1/2 I believe is what I used.
@samus4799 3 жыл бұрын
I think I'll do this to the bottom of my boat. It won't fade and will allow me to apply a gelcoat, which is easier to maintain than paint.
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
That would be a good use of this for sure!
@samus4799 3 жыл бұрын
@@Foxcraze What do you think the coverage area is per pound of the chopped carbon? You had half a pound here, and covered what looks to be about 1 square foot. What was the weight of your excess? I'd like to be able to cover 2 square yards per pound.
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed, I have over half the bag still. I will weigh what I have left when I get home and let you know!
@hitlersmissingtesticle69 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried to add flake to your forged carbon? It looks absolutely amazing and it can really add that extra detail to color schemes on your car. I’m about to do my hood vents and spoiler with some gold leaf flakes.
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
No I haven’t but it is something I have considered. Just haven’t found an instance when I would do it just yet. I hate doing things more than once and if I didn’t like the finish afterward, I would want to redo it immediately lol
@bryce.5oh 2 ай бұрын
Would you just take like your color powder or flakes and sprinkle it in when you do the chopped carbon pieces
@Foxcraze 2 ай бұрын
Yeah the color flakes would go on right after the chopped carbon before the first layer of topcoat was applied.
@bryce.5oh 2 ай бұрын
@@Foxcraze you’re the best for replying so quick 💪🏽 gonna give this a try this weekend
@Foxcraze 2 ай бұрын
@bryce.5oh hell yeah, good luck brotha!
@michaeloxton7077 5 ай бұрын
What kind of roller was that?
@nike4ify 3 жыл бұрын
How much hardener and resin are you suppose to put? As in the scale each amount?
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
That all depends on what resin brand you go with. Some are a 1:1 ratio some might be 2:1. Meaning if you do 1oz of resin you would need to match it or double it depending on what the brand recommends. I don’t remember exact amount I used, if I ran out during a step I just mixed a small amount more.
@landinstaker6528 Жыл бұрын
Did you remove the polyester with the fleece or leave it on and just sand down?
@Foxcraze Жыл бұрын
Yeah all the polyester pulled right off the panels and left a smooth surface to start sanding on.
@tkrteejay5558 3 жыл бұрын
What are you using for peel ply or recomend using?
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
When I do this work again I will continue to use the polyester underlining I used in this video that I picked up from the fabric store. It was affordable and easily available. If you wanna pay a bit more for the real stuff and have the time to wait then I would order it from composite envisions.
@shatiskumarganasan9097 4 ай бұрын
Do we need to remove peel ply? Or just add more resin and sand it?
@Foxcraze 4 ай бұрын
The peel ply def needs removed before continuing. Its only purpose is to get a good flat foundation to build from with new layers of resin and sanding.
@raymonddang8634 2 жыл бұрын
So you sand between resin coats? Resin coat 1 Sand Resin coat 2 Sand Resin coat 3 Sand Clear?
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
No not quite. If you look at the description, I outline the process in a step by step fashion. Review that and if you still have questions feel free to ask away my man!
@TShadez 3 жыл бұрын
Your a carbon god!
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that man! I got a lot to still learn but am having a good time with it!
@kristibbs6242 2 жыл бұрын
So I tried this on a project of mine but went with a different carbon fiber and it was hard and felt like little rocks. Made it extremely hard to work with and would not lay flat like in this video. My question is, was the carbon fiber that u got actually fiber like and easier to work with? And any info on what I should look for or where i went wrong when purchasing carbon fiber. Thanks
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
The carbon I bought was not hard at all and laid down pretty nice. The seller I bought from should be linked in the description of this video.
@IronMannara 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks alot for the video ! I'm just wondering , how much would you estimate your original piece grew in thickness with the added layers of carbon and epoxy? 1/8 " . 1/4" ?
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
No more than 1/8”. Sanding the piece down helps with adhesion but it also helps remove material that will be replaced with the thickness of the added material.
@IronMannara 2 жыл бұрын
@Foxcraze thanks alot for the reply and the video . Your piece turned out amazing BTW. I'm going to be trying this as well very soon and this video has been great and super helpful, thank you
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
Best of luck to your attempt!
@IronMannara 2 жыл бұрын
@Foxcraze Hi , I have another question for you . Could a towel be used as breather material ? Or is there something else that can substitute the fleece?
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a great question, the fleece was a substitute already. It needs to be a breathable material and though a towel does breath I think it would be too thick and possibly bunch up in areas of the part when applying vacuum. It is available in bulk at Walmart in the craft section all the time though.
@samuelmendez6932 Жыл бұрын
Hey can u add link 2 the resin. I am planing on doin my rear diffuser front lip and other out side parts
@Foxcraze Жыл бұрын
I didn’t link the resin I used cause it wasn’t heat stable and clouded over time. That said, check out APX Composites on eBay they have a good uv stable clear for exterior parts.
@islymher26 3 жыл бұрын
Can I use this method with carbon twill?
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I don’t see why not, it’s all carbon and resin after all.
@pedroalmodovar6709 3 жыл бұрын
I have a important question, where did get the sanding blocks??? Thanks great work!!!
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! It’s called a gator micro zip sander. They sell them at I believe Walmart, Lowe’s, etc. Amazon also has them.
@pedroalmodovar6709 3 жыл бұрын
@@Foxcraze Thank you
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
No problem!
@slaughterhousechi 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of a vacuum bag. Is wrapping in Saran wrap and submerging in a bathtub(for volume/weight) an option?
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
People have used Saran Wrap for compression before but I would def not submerge it into a bathtub if it isn’t sealed tight. Water getting into the carbon pockets and not getting fully dry before applying more resin coats can create condensation pockets under the resin and it can affect the finish of the part in the long run.
@j.a.3138 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing. Do you have to mix the epoxy for each layer? If so, how many ounces?
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Each layer was mixed separately. The resin only had a pot life of about 20 min before it starts to become unusable. The quantity per layer is user specific. For these parts specifically my layers varied from 10g to 14g of resin plus hardener depending on how much your specific brand calls for in the ratio.
@j.a.3138 3 жыл бұрын
@@Foxcraze Thanks for your response. my brand is the same as yours, 2:1. I'm planning on doing the middle dashboard for my Z. How many grams/ounces for each layer do you recommend?
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
For that size of the part, I would start with 12g for the first layer and adjust up or down depending on how much you have left over from that batch or if you came up short. Also I meant Grams not ounces, apologies.
@j.a.3138 3 жыл бұрын
@@Foxcraze 12 grams for the resin and how many grams for the hardener?
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
2 to 1 ratio would call for half the quantity in grams for hardener. So hardener would be 6 grams.
@gameplaynocommentary471 3 ай бұрын
Hello beautiful video, I would like to do the same thing though. to make more pieces, how do I clone the piece to be made and then make the forged carbon?
@Foxcraze 3 ай бұрын
You would need to make a mold of the front and back of the item you want to recreate. There are a lot of good videos on here about fiberglass mold making that can help greatly!
@gameplaynocommentary471 3 ай бұрын
@Foxcraze Do I make a bivalve?
@jayelectic8017 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a reason why mine didnt come out shiny? Like youre when you took the lining out mines is kinda matte and too dark
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
You didn’t tint the resin with any pigment did you? Also once you start sanding, it should start looking differently. If you have an IG send me pics and I can try to give a better answer.
@timtaylor9590 2 жыл бұрын
u sure did improve your sanding skills lol
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
I was bound to figure it out eventually haha
@chiperolo3856 Жыл бұрын
Did you do any polishing after the clear coat or no
@Foxcraze Жыл бұрын
No I didn’t see the need to since it looked good to me but there was more than enough clear on it that I could have if I wanted to.
@chiperolo3856 Жыл бұрын
@@Foxcraze thank you man
@MrFUNDIS Жыл бұрын
Great video, is it neccessary to put product in vacuum bag? what if i just put resin,carbon,peel ply, role it down and leave for the night?
@Foxcraze Жыл бұрын
You don’t have to bag it but compression over time helps to better saturate the entire carbon sheet and level it out.
@MrFUNDIS Жыл бұрын
@@Foxcraze Thanks for quick answer
@Foxcraze Жыл бұрын
No prob!
@christopherp8926 Жыл бұрын
Just curious, but why do you sand down to 600 before you want to clear coat it? That basically means you put a shitton of clearcoat over it so you dont see the big scratches you made. If you want to do it right you gotta sand with 1000, 2000 and 3000 and then clearcoat it
@Foxcraze Жыл бұрын
It has been my understanding that 1000 grit and up is for clear coat sanding to remove orange peel or to polish a component that isn’t getting clear coat. Sanding a component to that high a grit before clear will result in long term adhesion issues due to lack of bite. Composite envisions for example recommend sanding epoxy resin with 600 grit prior to applying the clear coat.
@MrSmashSr Жыл бұрын
How much carbon did you use for the two panels? It looked like the 1/2 pound went pretty far
@Foxcraze Жыл бұрын
I still have a lot of it left so I’m really not sure how much I used. I’m prob gonna reskin my front bumper lip on the new bumper in it also since I have so much left lol
@MrSmashSr Жыл бұрын
@@Foxcraze I’m trying to estimate how many pounds I would need to do all the body parts on my motorcycle. Those two panels are a bit smaller than my side covers and if you did both with such a small amount I think I could order less than I originally thought. Thanks for the info!
@Foxcraze Жыл бұрын
@@MrSmashSr no problem glad to help, just make sure you either paint the panels black or use a black dye in the first resin coat!
@cj94zj92sc 3 жыл бұрын
Hey I hate to give pointers buy if you use a heat gun and -syranwrap- it will level out better and cut down sanding by alot
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t hate to give pointers man, I’m here learning as I go so any tips and tricks are requested! Thanks, I will try that out!
@cj94zj92sc 3 жыл бұрын
Well 15 years of military composites and I'm green as grass as far As knowledge of composites
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
Well be sure to subscribe then cause I will prob need them in projects to come haha
@moparrdudee87 Ай бұрын
Hey man how do You know which brand of resin to go with ?? I’m starting of new
@Foxcraze Ай бұрын
If I were to try engine bay parts again, I would probably use MAX HTE. It has good reviews in regard to high heat applications.
@moparrdudee87 Ай бұрын
@@Foxcraze noted. Thank you boss
@Foxcraze Ай бұрын
No problem!
@kayastra 3 жыл бұрын
Do you remove the polyester fabric
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
Yes at 11:32 both the polyester and the breather material are removed together as they are stuck together at that point.
@goondusmartie799 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry... I am a newbie and trying to understand better. Would'nt the Polyester and fleece get stuck to the epoxy coat when the coat is set?
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
As you saw in the video, they come right off after the resin hardens.The polyester liner helps to smooth and even distribute the resin across the part. It does stick but not to the point that it doesn’t come off or ruin the part. The fleece goes above the polyester to soak up any excess resin that escapes when the suction is applied. This helps to cut down sanding time once hardened.
@Matty_Champwhite Жыл бұрын
What brand of respirator do you use?
@Foxcraze Жыл бұрын
The harbor freight special with the two filters. Nothing expensive
@Matty_Champwhite Жыл бұрын
@@Foxcraze wicked mate thank you! I’ll get one of these
@Foxcraze Жыл бұрын
No prob
@Tha_AntiChrist 3 жыл бұрын
I thank you for helping me save money ha I’m wrapping an electric skateboard deck
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
Well hell yeah that should be a good time!
@vwjet357 2 жыл бұрын
Did you use a non porous peel ply?
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
I used a polyester underlining, that says it repels water and doesn’t breath well. I would say that makes it non porous but I don’t know 100%. It was suggested as a substitute to peel ply on a forum I was browsing.
@SK-se7ox 2 жыл бұрын
Can u do it without epoxy. And just make 4- 5 layers of clear coat. Is that possible or not and why?
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
The epoxy would have to be used on the surface of the carbon to get everything smooth and protect the carbon properly. Clear coat alone doesn’t have the viscosity to fill, level and smooth what would be needed to make the finish look and feel correct.
@retsam2010 2 жыл бұрын
Looks amazing. Thinking about doing this. But can I ask how it held up?
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
The skinning and method of application itself has held up great. That said, not using a high heat rated resin was an issue as the heat caused the resin to cloud after about 8 months. Get you a high heat resin to do any engine bay panels and you should be gtg!
@retsam2010 2 жыл бұрын
@@Foxcraze I mainly wanna do some interior stuff like armrest and speedo cowl so 👍 that ks boss. Now to decided forged or traditional weave.
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
Forged is way more forgiving but takes more to level lol. That said I’m gonna be doing a mix of both in my Q50 subtly of course!
@AlexRodriguez-pg9xk 2 жыл бұрын
@@Foxcraze you think a high heat would be needed for interior parts ? Florida has some wicked heat and the inside of the car gets spicy
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
Normal epoxy resin is usually heat rated to around 120-130*. If it gets hotter than that inside the cabin then there’s no harm in only doing it once with the more expensive high heat epoxy.
@StreetSteezn 3 жыл бұрын
When you used the fleece, where can I buy some? And is there a particular kind to get?
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the fleece at Walmart and it is all the same just different colors. You can get it at any fabric or craft store though, Joanne’s, hobby lobby etc.
@seth4next 3 жыл бұрын
on step 2 layer, is it only use resin ?
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
Yep once the excess carbon pieces are shaken off it’s all straight resin coats from there out.
@seth4next 3 жыл бұрын
@@Foxcraze okey, thanks for it.
@carlosvalencia5696 Жыл бұрын
how much resin do you use, how many grams
@Foxcraze Жыл бұрын
The amount will vary with the size of the object and the amount applied each coat. I started small and added more till I got the coverage I wanted and used that number for every subsequent layer added.
@100rats2 3 жыл бұрын
The real question is how badly does he want to see the light?
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a good song!
@whenlifegivesyoulemons1411 4 ай бұрын
i am not familiar with the blue stuff under the part, can anybody tell me what that stuff is ill be very greatfull if anyone did 🥺
@Foxcraze 4 ай бұрын
Are you referring to the painters tape that was put on the places of the part that I didn’t want the carbon and resin to adhere to?
@whenlifegivesyoulemons1411 4 ай бұрын
@@Foxcraze ty very much I thought it was a mold
@Rubie_the_Black_Widow_Subie 3 жыл бұрын
Wet sanding with 120 and 220?
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
I started with 120 to knock down the highs and smoothed it out more with 220 to be less abrasive while leveling it out. It may not have been necessary but it work well for me.
@bboyglare11 3 жыл бұрын
would it be possible to use the same technique on a steering wheel?
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
It could be possible. If I were to try it, I would prob wrap the wheel in pieces of the peel ply. Then wrap the peel ply in duck tape or something really tight to keep constant pressure applied to the entire wheel, then bag it.
@bboyglare11 3 жыл бұрын
@@Foxcraze thanks for the response I’m trying to learn how they reshape the wheels with the pistol grips for a project. If you find anything please let me know!
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
Will do!
@carbonfabrik 3 жыл бұрын
@@Foxcraze try to cut a peel ply twill at a 45 degree angle. Having the rovings running around the radius makes it very easy. If u wrap it with a small strap it will leave Marks. When using weave at least. That really distracts the eyes. You could use a vac then if u do forged. For a weave its not necessary. Trust me, I spend days and like 10-15 trys optimizing it. the best way really is cutting twill weave at a 45 degree angle. Coat the wheel with resin, let it get Tacky, wrap the carbon around, wet it out, peel ply once again layed at 45 degrees so that the rovings run around the Radius, let dry and continue as usual.
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
@@carbonfabrik awesome, I appreciate the tips! I dunno if/when I will get around to a wheel but if I do I will def take your advice!
@atomicorang Жыл бұрын
Make a flat plane crank out of forged carbon
@fab8888 2 жыл бұрын
Do I need to do the vacuum step?
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
You don’t have to but the fiber won’t be compressed and could have a higher failure rate.
@fab8888 2 жыл бұрын
@@Foxcraze Okay👍🏻
@Bunn3403 3 жыл бұрын
Hello matey, where did you get the shredded carbon from please?
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
An eBay store! They sell different lengths for quantities for different size projects. www.ebay.com/itm/113719188146
@Bunn3403 3 жыл бұрын
@@Foxcraze ..... thanks my friend, was that the actual store that it was purchased from for that project?
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
I purchased it from the eBay store that I dropped the link to above. It’s innovativecompositetechnologies
@Bunn3403 3 жыл бұрын
@@Foxcraze ....thanks a lot for the info
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
No Problem!
@chiperolo3856 Жыл бұрын
And wet sanding
@Tankslayer109 2 жыл бұрын
Can this be ceramic coated? Would make an insane "paint job"
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I have seen people ceramic coat carbon fiber parts that are exposed to the sun to help protect them all the time.
@Tankslayer109 2 жыл бұрын
@@Foxcraze i might give this a go on my A6 C6 audi
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t hurt, I would start with something small to test like the gas filler door!
@Tankslayer109 2 жыл бұрын
@Foxcraze will do, thanks man
@mistros5684 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like there was no need to go so far down on sand grit, if you hit it with a 300 abd up you should be good
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the feedback brother!
@mistros5684 2 жыл бұрын
@@Foxcraze yea no worries but either way yours still came out beautifully I couldnt have done it any better myself🙌🙌😍
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the positive feedback!
@bobpolice1088 3 жыл бұрын
my only two complaints are the music and the pov camera other than that the video is excellent
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
What would have been your music preference? I considered a stationary camera but a lot of the hands on work would not have been captured.
@bobpolice1088 3 жыл бұрын
@@Foxcraze I suggest not putting music and put the camera right in front of your work (my opinion so don’t force yourself you can do whatever you want) ♥️
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
I have done similar to that camera wise in newer videos. Also now when I have music I have turned it down so it’s not so overpowering.
@HristiyanKirilov 3 жыл бұрын
Hello bro can you give me a list with names of all the product. Thanks
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
The list of everything I used with links are in the description of the video brother.
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
The list of everything I used with links are in the description of the video brother.
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
The list of everything I used with links are in the description of the video brother.
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
The list with links to everything I used are in the description my man!
@cj94zj92sc 3 жыл бұрын
Also wetting a fiber resin product can cause wicking
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
Can you go into more detail on what you mean, like don’t use water during the process to clean it? What’s wicking? Edit: nvm I get what your saying the fabric will soak up the water and cause moisture to get under the resin which could later on cause cloudiness in the resin I’m guessing.
@cj94zj92sc 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I can't remember all of the technical terms but water is ok if you know fiders are sealed but "wicking" is a problem hard to detect till it cost you
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
That if a great point and I will def stick to alcohol till its completely sealed
@cj94zj92sc 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't see your question, it's just when you have "pitting" make sure fibers are sealed
@cj94zj92sc 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah nice work btw I wish I could focus on a single task
@aydancobbett3692 Жыл бұрын
I just wanna see the light
@Foxcraze Жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@user-ob6rg6os7u 3 жыл бұрын
Проще и быстрее было изготовить матрицу и получить сразу идеальную деталь, чем потом два дня зачищать и поливать эпоксидной смолой. У вас очень много свободного времени.
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I don’t have the materials to make molds quite yet but it’s something I plan on getting into eventually!
@Vettespeed 2 жыл бұрын
i tried this on my center console but didn't vacuum bag it and its fucking awful been working on it for 2 weeks now
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
Damn that’s sucks! The vacuum process is extremely helpful especially when smoothing out the chopped carbon.
@Vettespeed 2 жыл бұрын
@@Foxcraze YEA I WISH I KNEW THAT WHEN I STARTED trying to sand down the forged carbon pieces with the resin on it has taken days and it’s all so uneven
@joebloggs4191 3 жыл бұрын
Looks great but all the camera shaking is driving me mad! Keep the camera still man!
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
Are you referring to the time lapses?
@joebloggs4191 3 жыл бұрын
@@Foxcraze Yep! I know it's a new modern trend in cinematography but it's annoying as heck! Otherwise it's a great video!
@Foxcraze 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s attached to my head and I was moving as subtle as possible but its overly dramatic when sped up. I have done different fixed position time lapses in more recent videos because of that actually lol
@ashize8378 2 жыл бұрын
Can I just ship mine to you and pay you to do them haha
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
If I had the time I would say yes but I unfortunately do not lol
@ashize8378 2 жыл бұрын
@@Foxcraze haha no worries, you make it look really easy. i’ll just mess up my panels it’s fine lol
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
If you do decide to give it a try use a high temp resin for all engine bay parts! That was the one mistake I made not using high temp resin.
@bryce.5oh Ай бұрын
Only for engine bay parts ? Everywhere else is okay? Like the interior plastic. I figured engine bay and exterior parts you’d need high temp
@Foxcraze Ай бұрын
Exactly that man, Don’t try engine bay parts or exterior trim without high heat resin. I don’t have a recommendation unfortunately since I haven’t don’t any other carbon projects since.
@kuraigasone 2 ай бұрын
i don't understand carbon skinning why you are using it ? isn' it better just using hydrodip
@Foxcraze 2 ай бұрын
This was what was requested to be done. That said, some people prefer the visual depth that actual carbon produces when cleared. Some hydro prints do a decent job from a distance and does require less work. But when you get up close the hydrodip doesn’t produce the same visual depth that real carbon does.
@ray8916 Жыл бұрын
Good job but I absolutely do not like that look
@Foxcraze Жыл бұрын
Thanks, forged carbon isn’t for everybody if you like patterns to be even and symmetrical forged def isn’t for you.
@NALOW84 2 жыл бұрын
I would recommend not wearing the camera on your head if you're gonna speed up the videos, hurts my eyes. Keep the camera on the tripod during those parts like you did towards the end and the video would be much more watchable.
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the feedback, I’m learning and adjusting how I document for every video. Thanks for watching!
@NALOW84 2 жыл бұрын
@@Foxcraze no prob...dont get me wrong, loved the video besides the sped up head mounts.
@oaliaso 2 жыл бұрын
So, not actually forged
@Foxcraze 2 жыл бұрын
There is always one in the crowd, no it’s not actually compressed carbon particles into a new solid component to make a replacement part. That process is quite costly and not necessary if your goal isn’t to make replacement parts. This is forged carbon or chopped carbon skinning, and is purely cosmetic.
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