Does the bunker need a complete overhaul? | NRL 360

Does the bunker need a complete overhaul? | NRL 360 | Fox League

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Ай бұрын

James Graham has an idea for what could help the Bunker, after a number of calls from the weekend had many fans frustrated.
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@Thisdracoundefeated Ай бұрын

Having jimmy on here is such an upgrade, the man talks more sense than hoops kent and charryanis combined

@DjDmt Ай бұрын

And he doesn't shout and try and belittle everyone

@martinaltoft7075 Ай бұрын

The value of articulate ex-players can never be underrated. The knowledge of a seasoned pro will ALWAYS dwarf the opinion of a journo.. Journos that linger around clubs and players like bad farts who can hardly lace up a boot let alone understand the mindset of these machines that go into the most physical sport in the world, week in week out...

@puppysoda7062 Ай бұрын

Most intelligent comment I’ve heard today….I’m with you random stranger!

@MetalMayhem1978 Ай бұрын

James Graham is a legend!!! He’s awesome on here, don’t ever let Paul Kent back !! He’s a douche

@peasant5612 Ай бұрын

@@DjDmt who belittled? Harden up cupcake

@crypt0bank446 Ай бұрын

How good is Jimmy! Breath of fresh air to this panel! Much needed. Well spoken, experienced and knowledgable!

@williammcgechie4504 Ай бұрын

absolutely. and no one's being bullied by Kenty talking all over them...mind you he's funnier when he's pissed !

@da3v1ls93 23 күн бұрын

Pommy air

@Chrissmills Ай бұрын

I hope they keep jimmy on the show forever, he’s so level headed and professional

@trenthickman170 Ай бұрын

Having Jimmy there is great, amazing addition for NRL tree60.

@DjDmt Ай бұрын

Tree60 😂

@justenbeashel Ай бұрын

This is the perfect mix for the panel, 3 great former players and a journo

@allworldmusic8270 Ай бұрын

So so true, so much better.

@JJdraho Ай бұрын

Well said mate, great mix

@djamani9013 Ай бұрын

So refreshing having James on here, Kenty was just spewing words to get his point across.

@josephpaerau9144 Ай бұрын

Stop the betting

@someoneunseen5168 Ай бұрын

Agreed.

@samforrest8924 Ай бұрын

It all looks fixed for gambling and or the NRL trying to even the comp

@rmishone874 Ай бұрын

100% since you’ve been able to bet on the footy the game has gone down hill.

@GoogleAccount-pt4zu Ай бұрын

Exactly, sportsbet and betting in general has corrupted sports, there is corruption within the NRL and they can try and hide it all they like, but I wouldn’t be surprised if years down the track the game comes out in disrespute because of how the game get officiated to sway the result a certain way or make certain decision that are absolute head scratchers.

@josephpaerau9144 Ай бұрын

Millionaire bookies fucking with our game

@TheAussieDog Ай бұрын

It’s such an easy fix but no one is talking about it… The bunker should only be a visual tool for the on field referee to decide for themselves if it is a try or not. Stop letting referees deflect the call to the bunker. Put the onus back on the ref

@geomet1311 Ай бұрын

Jimmy replacing Gordy was a master stroke

@crikeym8600 Ай бұрын

Stop the betting and you'll watch the bad decisions dry up

@bradley7674 Ай бұрын

DWZ should have scored twice in the Warriors vs Knights game but the bunker took both tries away from him. Sportbet would be happy because a lot of people would have had him on their bets.

@thestoicwhinger Ай бұрын

I'm almost as pissed that he dropped it, had a shocker

@bondoqbn7318 Ай бұрын

The Bunker is a lottery. Just get rid of it and let the onfield officials make the calls. The TV replays are used advertising purposes only.

@daleviker5884 Ай бұрын

And then there will be even more wrong calls and you and these guys will blow up about it. In a fast moving contact sport, there's always going to be contention. The bunker was introduced because people complained about officials making too many mistakes. The bunker has eliminated a lot of errors, and the fact that it's not perfect is no reason to go back to an even worse system LOL.

@wolverine6874 Ай бұрын

Keep Jimmy.....great addition to the panel.

@DjDmt Ай бұрын

They need a bunker for the bunker

@jase5865 Ай бұрын

😅

@RT-ls3fm Ай бұрын

Leo Thompson missed 2 games for tackling papi in the air🤦🏽

@nathheff Ай бұрын

Love jimmy graham and his strong opinions. I’m aligned with his opinions 10/10 times. True hard man. #keepjimmy

@GunnersElite Ай бұрын

I think Cam Smith would be a great player to throw in the bunker, people were calling him a referee for years because of his intelligence in the game.

@JJdraho Ай бұрын

Would have to pay someone of his caliber big $$$

@GunnersElite Ай бұрын

@@JJdraho If it makes the game better, why not

@MrMeldarionx Ай бұрын

he THOUGHT he was the best referee .... he was a grub.

@KyleLewisTaylor Ай бұрын

The NRL needs to employ a system they use in Rugby Union. The Referees in rugby union with communicate with the TMO(Video Referee) and watch the footage on a screen in the Ground and talk through the incident. When both the VR and on field ref agree on a decision they act. Why not try it that way

@Chrissmills Ай бұрын

Same with soccer and the VAR, the referee will go over and re watch it via multiple angles on a screen with another squad of referees in another room discussing it, and the final decision comes down to the on field referee.

@hanoamorete179 Ай бұрын

True in part however that means League becomes an arduous watch like Rugby. I say do away with it all together

@pixelpotato4874 Ай бұрын

In union if you get head on head contact (e.g Izaak Tago on Reece Walsh round 3) resulted in Walsh getting badly injured with head to head contact from Tago's tackle,Tago would have been sent off for failure to protect opposition by bending at the hips.On top of that he would've been suspended for 4 Weeks.It makes the defending team think about their tackling,it is perfect?No.But it's a step in the right direction of protecting players from unnecessary concussion, which as we know builds up over seasons causing some players to retire early.

@ella-bella1125 Ай бұрын

100% agree

@youtubeenthussiast328 Ай бұрын

@@ChrissmillsVAR is horrible in the prem. People want rid of it. Worse than the nrl bunker. This doesn't work

@tango18gudvibes Ай бұрын

Yes a complete overhaul please!!. There's 3 teams on the field now... by jingles.

@daleviker5884 Ай бұрын

No two people ever see the same incidents the same way 100% of the time. It doesn't matter what decision is made by an official or bunker, a big chunk of people will agree and a big chunk will disagree. Anyone who thinks that changing the system will change the number of complaints is kidding themselves.

@user-ky3xw4jx4u Ай бұрын

Kent’s a gronk love jimmy

@swingham4020 Ай бұрын

What more concerning is Annesley comes out & backs the bunker, may as well sack him and save a salary, he never goes against the refs, its in his blood, he isnt worth the money or the title he has.

@thestoicwhinger Ай бұрын

I agree with sacking him, guys been in the job forever and nothing has improved

@platedupnth Ай бұрын

Blaming the bunker for conflicting decisions yet this panel couldn't agree on the tries/decisions either?

@darrengifford7442 Ай бұрын

Not only did he tackle him in the air he was also put in a dangerous position different decision for different teams. If that was a Penrith player it's a penalty try

@jameslovering9158 Ай бұрын

Don't expect calls to go the way of the Warriors.

@putjaglovesup5284 Ай бұрын

I must be crazy. But I thought Sami’s was a try. I mean the ball bounces 6 feet into the air. That is A LOT of downward pressure. I don’t see separation between hand and ball (granted I’m only using my phone to watch the footage). To me that looks like a try.

@putjaglovesup5284 Ай бұрын

I guess this proves the problem with the video ref, Anasta seems pretty certain it’s a no try, but I would have awarded it. So you can’t ever get to a point that everyone agrees on

@danielkelly4487 Ай бұрын

It was about as obvious as it gets it was Cleary a no try he dropped the ball same with the Thompson one from south’s

@putjaglovesup5284 Ай бұрын

@@danielkelly4487 I disagree. I thought he had some part of his hand on the ball the whole time. That’s why the ball bounced so high because he pushed it into the ground.

@danielkelly4487 Ай бұрын

@@putjaglovesup5284 nah mate if he had pressure on the ball when it contacts the ground it’s impossible to bounce that high . I mean all you had to do is watch Sami’s reaction he new he dropped it

@putjaglovesup5284 Ай бұрын

@@danielkelly4487 I don’t think he has any control over the ball but I think he was still touching it when the ball hit the ground and that’s all he needs for a try to be awarded. To be fair, he also pointed to the ground after he scored it because he wanted it to go upstairs.

@ozbolli Ай бұрын

Maybe, just maybe, we should consider scrapping VMOs altogether and letting the ref and touch judges make the calls with no screen replays.

@ella-bella1125 Ай бұрын

GET RID OF THE BUNKER

@decidingpointreveiverschoi6005 Ай бұрын

its funny cuz when i started to watch the nrl during the covid season in 2020 i guess (cuz of lack of the other competinion, im european, was always watching union) i saw how the bunker is working, how they are fixin the try/no try situaion, faul plays etc and i was like "soccer VAR system should be fuckin learning from the bunker" everything was so transparent, the replays were long enough, everyone could see everything. its pretty funny now, cuz they just destroyed our trust. at this moment we never know what bunker gonna say, how they gonna make a call. what fkin happened?

@R3fug333 Ай бұрын

Disagree. The Sezar wasn't a hip drop. It was accidental. Negligent sure but didn't deserve a sin bin.

@mixxxer Ай бұрын

1- get ex players involved 2- give the ref the ability to review on the field (like in soccer VAR) to make the final call on contentious calls

@jordanslays_ Ай бұрын

Absolutely spot on mate

@seilalaevalu9072 Ай бұрын

How about have three in the bunker, at the end of the review they show their decision on the big screen of try or no try and then majority rules decides?

@swisscloud4309 Ай бұрын

It will probably take too long tbh you really speed the game up

@FreeAssange556 Ай бұрын

The Bunker should all be experienced referees. Who are these people making decisions in the Bunker anyway?

@barrycouda8481 Ай бұрын

With all this technology being used these days like a forensic scientist looking for micro details, you would think they would see a blatant forward pass, which usually ends in a try being scored and allowed. Yet they still persist in this replay after replay to see if a player had as much as a fingernail on the ball ???? ....What-tha !!!!!

@nakisiirocky6656 Ай бұрын

Jimmy is 💯 💐

@forsland6153 Ай бұрын

The disruptor rule is literally laughable.

@fentonfamily695 Ай бұрын

On my bloody goodness. Just listen to how complicated they’re making it. Just get rid of the bunker. Problem solved.

@darkstars-torpedoes-of-truth Ай бұрын

At the Dally M's this year they should have the best milker of the year award and also a FU fans award for the best NRL administrator who has done the most damage to the game. Any nominees for this years ones people?

@jhayd22 Ай бұрын

jimmy is great his podcast is solid too, like his influence on the game i reckon he would make a good coach or would defininetly play for him

@JoshGarner-jg2jq Ай бұрын

That should be the only time you can touch someone when they are in the air behind the try line if he didn’t tackle him he would of scored

@user-cb5tl5fu3w Ай бұрын

They used to hit and drive in a tackle, they must be getting trained to use their weight to pull down the player. Too much wrestling training?

@probrickieexclusive 26 күн бұрын

I reckon that was a Titans try...Arthur Beeton would be rolling in his grave.

@rileyo4238 Ай бұрын

The bunker, the referees and the linesman need an overhaul if you ask me

@plc2866 Ай бұрын

Some of the reffing and bunker calls are so bad and baffling that you wonder at times if there is engineering to manufacture a result. This is a simple game, it’s not rugby and still they can’t get it right!

@pussyhole9763 Ай бұрын

💯 these result are manufactured to benefit the major sponsors of the game. They have to make inconsistent calls consistently to shadow the match fixing calls.

@cjyoung7372 Ай бұрын

As someone else has already pointed out stop the betting and we will get honest officials

@tearataibedggood137 Ай бұрын

its not like the reff has a flat screen in her pocket, and its not like they look at the big screen the whole game 😂

@julianalderson3938 Ай бұрын

Yes hip drop!

@user-vb5xn7ok2l Ай бұрын

Jimmy, with Coops doing his segment are 2 big pluses. Don't need to replace the bunker, just improve some rules. Eg tackled in air in goal when U have caught the ball- commonsense-try. Head injuries- max 2 in a tackle-1 of them will have to go for the legs, player being tackled not blindsided-less head hits. When a player stands up to play the ball- no release when called-penalty. Walk off the mark- penalty. Blow the pea out of the whistle for maybe a month, all will whinge, but big improvement for the game-less headknocks, les head contact, less wrestle, less cheating. End result-a big +.

@tristanboyd6096 Ай бұрын

Dead right Jimmy spent $800 getting to Newcastle for Warriors games... petrol tickets and overnight accommodation.... its a penalty any where else on the field ..but because its in the try zone another ruling applies ?? President now set ..just stand under the jumper in the touch zone and take out the legs ... 🤦🤦‍♂

@thestoicwhinger Ай бұрын

What about the ref trying to justify it, "yeah mate I agree it should be a try but we're not in the habit of ruling that way" I mean... What the actual f**k is that?

@nathj4818 Ай бұрын

The bunker needs to be limited to try referrals NOTHING else they've turned the game to 💩

@petertaua5590 Ай бұрын

Bring back the 2 Referee system one dominant ref which would be dependent on which team they are to call for in the first half and then swap on the 2nd half. Make the bunker a review Official only with it offering what they deem to judge the reviewed action, with then the dominant ref on field making the final call to whether they agree or not with the bunker and then a 3rd opinion coming from the 2nd ref to provide additional value to either calls made .

@nasirmohamed-fj5vs Ай бұрын

Explayers have loyalties to their former teams. How do get rid of that.

@anguscameron561 Ай бұрын

By getting the bunker to explain the decision, they just apply the laws of the game. The laws might need changing.

@Jack-gv3mk Ай бұрын

These lads are actually all agreeing on something for once.

@vinhkhanhtran1916 Ай бұрын

Bring back PK , we miss you champ

@keepingitreal601 Ай бұрын

Playing NRL is like being on Centrelink you get paid to do F.A.

@smooshiewombat3803 Ай бұрын

Jimmy's idea is great. 3 different reviewers make independent decisions former player, current ref, former ref and majority wins the decision at that moment. After the weekend games the decisions are reviewed again and if the majority from the reviewers was wrong consistency over a month then those reviewers are replaced. Over time the good bunker reviewers will make the correct decision 99% of the time.

@dom3335 Ай бұрын

Tackled in the air rule was originally brought in for safety, and only applied to the attacking team because they are rushing forward and not stationary. These days the ones that are really dangerous(players running through without jumping and taking out the legs while looking at the ball) are not penalised because he was "going for the ball" and the ones that aren't very dangerous(stationary defender making contact with legs) are penalised, or complained about if not. By the current rules it should have been a Penalty Try or a Sin Bin, but it wasn't dangerous. Because the attacker has momentum and control in the air 99% of the time. Regarding the Sezer one it was because Sutton was the in the Bunker, it's predictable and consistent with the Dogs.

@jvvoid Ай бұрын

There is no doubt, if Sutton has a Dogs match, there will be at least one howler go against them. Won't say that for any other ref because it wouldn't be true. But with Sutton, the runs are on the board, the track record is there. Not a 50/50 - a howler. Every. Single. Time.

@thestoicwhinger Ай бұрын

Ii may not have been dangerous in isolation but the whole point of penalizing is to deter foul play and unnecessary injury

@jordanslays_ Ай бұрын

James Graham brings so much more to this show compared to kenty! Good stuff Jimmy! Sucked in Kenty

@reeganmorrell9844 Ай бұрын

alot of money on dwz for anytime try scorer .wake up they wont give him a penalty try

@pixelpotato4874 Ай бұрын

How do you tackle someone in the Air causing him to drop the ball and not award a penalty try?

@CJH94 Ай бұрын

Jimmy graham was a solid footballer. But he is so much better at this panellist job than anyone currently doing it. That idea about the referees panel was spot on he needs to be involved or atleast part of the discussion at a higher level.

@weburnitatbothends Ай бұрын

Where's Kenty?

@mittedoupeff1342 Ай бұрын

Boonker gone boonkers 🤣

@jase5865 Ай бұрын

🤣🤣

@Kingfish4444 Ай бұрын

It's simple people. Boycott the games until the corruption stops. It's obvious they want certain teams to win on certain days, probably in correlation with sports betting agencies. The games a joke now and ABDO please take ownership of the stuff ups you'd earn more respect that way. Stop covering for stupid calls, we the people understand the game better then you think, stop acting like a politician and man up.

@thestoicwhinger Ай бұрын

Betting needs to f right off from the game all together

@Southstander Ай бұрын

This is spot on the games heading for the pits the only way it will change if people starting switching off or turning up

@HeftyReefs Ай бұрын

I would like to hear kentys opinion

@DBASSDAN Ай бұрын

Not happening.....rooted

@dearth5446 Ай бұрын

His too drunk 🥴

@jase5865 Ай бұрын

😂

@owenaltmann7113 Ай бұрын

In my opinion the bunker shouldn't be allowed to watch the game,know what the score is or how much time is left. screens light up make your decision sceens go blank

@difdaf436 Ай бұрын

I think there will always be mistakes.. that’s just a fact.. it’s like nothing is ever good enough..

@fofomp723 Ай бұрын

I think they should put these players as bunker refs and see how they make the decisions and compare with the refs and see how many errors they make . To err is human fellas .

@SteveSnowGO Ай бұрын

Thought you could tackle an attacking player in the air? Or have they changed that rule

@jvvoid Ай бұрын

They changed it to both ways a couple of years ago.

@orshello3 Ай бұрын

Bunker still cant overrule blatent forward passes 🥴

@frankbotic9953 Ай бұрын

It seems like the bunker has bets on the game.

@g3nesisprime183 Ай бұрын

Anasta, Graham and Talis need to be permanent! Bunker couldll use a tweak.

@phillipburrell5365 Ай бұрын

I thought the rule for the last 100yrs was that an attacker jumping in the air is allowed to be tackled in the air as long as you aren't tunnelling the legs. Only defenders are not allowed to be tackled in the air

@jvvoid Ай бұрын

They changed it to both ways a couple of years ago.

@darrengifford7442 Ай бұрын

Go back to the 5 meter rule, king wally kick ass in that era so the players today should have no problem. Then we will see how good Wally was.

@rayhaber2122 Ай бұрын

Need to go back to 2010 where there's 2 ref's on the field and the bunker only there for the video try that's it

@anippere Ай бұрын

The bunker does not need human intervention! We have enough AI technology now to determine correct calls without bios.

@jase5865 Ай бұрын

I could be wrong but I thought a defending player could tackle an attacking player in mid air. If not then what is the defender meant to do,just stand there and watch him score?

@jvvoid Ай бұрын

They changed it to both ways a couple of years ago. He can contest the bomb or try to wrap up the ball when he lands. If you're not there in time to contest the bomb then it's a good kick and you deserve to score.

@jase5865 Ай бұрын

@@jvvoid Cheers mate,thankyou. They change the rules that often these days it's not hard to get left behind.

@chrlztarau2467 Ай бұрын

Imo ex players might be what's needed in the bunker. At least they have experience being out there

@luke33garven2 Ай бұрын

Hey luke patten did a good jov

@hugzy14 Ай бұрын

Wat the fk... i thought that wasnt SO obvious penno try... he dropped it cold (more like 70-30 it is a penno try... not like 110-0 like theyre on about)

@thestoicwhinger Ай бұрын

Probably a sinny at least

@RAM_845 Ай бұрын

Better to have former players than journalists on this panel! better and healthy debates. Corrupt refs are an issue especially biased ones. Like Gerard Sutton, Cummins, Klein. Bunker is good but depends who's controlling it! We need to ban gambling from sports thus the calls by refs and NRL will be more fair!

@charliehorton5070 Ай бұрын

The refereeing decisions will never be fixed as any sport that has betting attached to it can only be a dishonest sport. I've been whinging to the NRL for years over this.

@nickalan5539 Ай бұрын

Bring back Khunty

@jakehackettau Ай бұрын

Bunker fixing games

@rileyo4238 Ай бұрын

James graham about to lose his job he’s speaking to much facts

@mickdillon3120 Ай бұрын

Look at gambling on this game and you will find the answers you are looking for it's all money not the game.

@andy-vk4tk 20 күн бұрын

The bunker has ruined the game , please get rid of it

@TheChaseCard-xb1ss Ай бұрын

What is the knights defender supposed to do..? If he let's Zelazniak land, he lands with the ball 1st and tries. Is the knights player supposed to stand back and do nothing.....?

@jvvoid Ай бұрын

He can contest the bomb or try to wrap up the ball when he lands. If you're not there in time to contest the bomb then it's a good kick and you deserve to score.

@thestoicwhinger Ай бұрын

Are you being funny

@darrengifford7442 Ай бұрын

Maybe get rid of all the betting sponsorship. Open only for curruption. Betting company just needs a friend in the bunker. A foul in the event of scoring a try is at least 10 in the bin.

@thestoicwhinger Ай бұрын

Yeah it's funny a bloke can tug on someone's shorts and get binned yet that gets nothing

@jaromeasdale7157 Ай бұрын

give jimmy braith's seat

@moh-tuk2350 Ай бұрын

More james

@Alig3388 Ай бұрын

Everyone on the panel is clueless. Go watch Graham Annesley explain the calls and you would learn something

@thestoicwhinger Ай бұрын

He can explain it all day long mate. The fact is there is inconsistency because the rules have too much grey area and are interpreted differently

@Alig3388 Ай бұрын

@@thestoicwhinger It's an interpretive game though. Specifically talking about Sezer's tackle, Annesley explained why it was NOT a hip drop, but still a dangerous tackle AND he used Cleary as a previous example.

@peasant5612 Ай бұрын

With jimmy and tallis , the simple fellows on here should finally understand what shows about 😏

@zenFereti Ай бұрын

Wayne Bennet needs a job he would be great for the bunker

@aenohesa9997 Ай бұрын

The Bogger is just as good as VAR in soccer. tons of money spent on it and the decisions are made by people so far detached from the game it is laughable...I have seen very few decisions be correct. Jimmy is a great addition to the show.

@teariki-barefist2932 Ай бұрын

Smells like Mr Fix it..

@BigMan.270 Ай бұрын

Just get rid of the bunker. It's absolutely useless. Having a committee to make a decision, will just prolong rulings. It takes the bunker, long enough as it is. The bunker was introduced to get rid of the absolute clangers & howlers of decisions. But week in, week out. Game by game, it consistently gets things wrong. And what would improve the standard of poor refereeing. Is for them to be able to be criticised. Everyone else in the game gets publicly criticised if their form is poor. Why should the refs get a free pass?