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Or... hear me out... that the results of the fall effected creatures with similar DNA in similar ways. 🤷‍♂️ Craig is, of course, brilliant and remains a hero of the faith. But, when it comes to Darwinism and Theistic Evolution, he's woefully too eager to swallow bad reasoning.

This is the same faulty logic that led to the vestigial organs argument. We used to think the tailbone and appendix had no discernible purposes and were just remnants of previous evolutionary steps, but we now know the appendix serves as support for the immune system and the tailbone has several important muscles attached to it which would not function properly otherwise.

I believe in creation as written in the bible.

I'm gonna go with God on this one - "created in Our image and likeness" as a kill shot to any idea of evolution, you simply are not reading scripture if you thing we evolved from something else other than what God created us as, man and woman.

When I was in school working on my bachelor's in biology, I took one graduate level course in which the professor was studying a gene that had long been labeled a "junk gene" by mainstream science. After working at it for years, he was able to demonstrate that this "junk gene" actually played a major role in the production and regulation of a specific protein involved in the healthy development of a baby during pregnancy. This was at a small university, so do think big institutions gave any attention to this doctors research? That research illustrates such an important point to the "junk gene" debate though. There may be thousands of genes in our genome that only become active under very specific circumstances, which can be extremely difficult to pin down.

What common ancestor? God created the animals on the 5th day and Adam independently the 6th. God created Eve from Adam and humanity from both of them. WLC needs to read Genesis again.

I have always had a difficult time with Dr. Craig expressing his views on evolution. I think he is one of the most talented debaters I've ever seen, but he is not an expert in the field of biology (as he always states). Yet, he consistently pushes for the theory of theistic evolution as though he is an expert. I would much rather listen to Stephen Meyer regarding this issue.

Saying that god designed a broken mechanism (assuming they are in fact broken) is the only other explanation besides evolution seems false to me. Isn’t it also possible that those mechanisms become broken because of the fall?

The video game Team Fortress 2 will not run without a picture of a coconut in the game files. The coconut picture is not in the game. It’s useless. But if you remove that picture from the file, the game doesn’t work, the code breaks down. Maybe somethings that look useless to you and me are part of what holds things together in ways we don’t realize

Since many ERVs have already been found to be functional, it is reasonable to think that they are there by design. The fact that we find the same ERVs in humans and apes is really no surprise. If humans and apes share the same creator and were made to live in the same world and to eat the same sort of food, it is hardly surprising that they were made with similar DNA (although the differences are much greater than evolutionists expected, which is a major problem for their story).

We keep finding that useless parts have important functions😊

Before you comment about how "heretical" or "unbiblical" this stance is, stop and consider your own view and the evidence for it. I have no problem with people expressing their disagreements, but they have to be expressed with reasoning, and not just as "you're wrong"

That argument is ridiculous and the analogy isn't just bad, it's fatal. Every car on the market has unused features that allow for future modification. Take unused panel spaces, for instance. All car brands have them. No, they were not inherited from a common ancestor. Yes, they were all independently designed that way. (And if there had been only one designer, would it really have been "independent"?) Just because YOU don't understand a function does not mean it's a mistake or "broken". It is well known that environmental feedback can activate gene sequences that were previously believed to be non-functional. See the locust, for example. This is just tragically bad, Doc.

As scientists make the effort to study ERVs, more of their functions are becoming known, indicating that they are not junk. Moreover, evidence is mounting that they play crucial roles (for example in embryonic development) and in controlling the way DNA works. The same ERVs are found in humans and apes because we share a common designer rather than a common ancestor.

Discussions like this are certainly more productive when the interlocuters agree on WHO was responsible for the creation, and are simply disagreeing on HOW that creation was implemented.

The question I have for Theistic evolution is how they can explain the doctrine of "Original Sin?"

There is another argument that is ignored: "what if species de-evolve from a common ancestor?"

God didn’t make the world in 7 days, he made it in 6 days and rested on the 7th

Heresy! If God is real all things are possible.

That's just wrong, WLC! Please tell who is to say that we just have to lean to the "best explanation", given the fact that the Bible already stated that God created humanity DIFFERENT from animals since the beginning! Moreover, it was just after the fall that everything started to break down, including the genome! That's why WLC's logic is flawed, at least in this regard, because he relegated Biblical authority to the same ground as the philosophy of mere men, sadly!!!

I believe that God is clear throughout all of scripture as to how he created. “It is I who made the earth and created mankind on it. My own hands stretched out the heavens; I marshaled their starry hosts” Is 45:12 No ambiguity

You Pastors are the Best in defending Christianity against athiest doctrine... more than ever we need your voices in defending the State of Israel from the UN ICC and Woke/Islamic propaganda vs the Biblical truth of Judeo Christian Western Civilisation.

If your story doesn't align with reality, it's reality that's true, not your story.

The Truth heals the sick, raises the dead, ends suffering, poverty, natural disasters, gives blessings and brings Heaven down. So why are all the Churches lying? Read Isaiah 9:16. It was true in Isaiah's time, Jesus's time and still true today.

The answer "seems to be" lol seriously??

Thank you @ the 3:30 mark. To refute the whole nonfunctional inherited DNA argument. We simply improve our understanding of the genome. The technology keeps improving and so has our understanding of how the genome works. The more we learn the more the published data shows these “non-functioning” areas are actually functional. It’s a great time to be alive.

Ford and GM don't have a fallen nature.

If you don't know yet, look up results for soft tissue found in dinosaur bones and horns (MANY bones and horns).

God gave Adam free will in the Garden of Eden. Adam didn’t trust God. He believed Satan was telling the truth so he believed Eve and ate from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Adam’s sin created our fallen world. Christ is the new Adam who trusted God the Father and did His will by voluntarily dying on the cross for the sins of the world…including Adam’s sin. If you repent and believe in the risen Christ you are reconciled to God, washed clean of your sin by the blood of Christ and will spend eternity in a new heavens and earth. I’m afraid the proponents of Theological Evolution are being misled by the community of non-Christian or Progressive Christian academics. They will never respect you until you renounce your fundamentalist Christian faith. Once they convince you the Bible is not true or is mostly allegorical Christ’s sacrifice means nothing. As RC Sproul said and I’m paraphrasing…I believe the Bible because I believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Be in Christ and shine your light for those lost souls drowning in the chaotic culture. I was one of those lost souls!

Hugh Ross says there isn't enough time for macroevolution, and since we known fairly precisely the age of the earth, this would appear to be a big challenge. Additionally, there is an argument based on DNA (molecular systematics) that similar species that are structurally very similar (for example, frogs, lizards, herbs) are genetically distinct. Thus, if macroevolution is true, these nearly identical species evolved over time separately, not from common descent. Additionally, there are concerns about the physics of Earth during this time period and the possibility of separate creation and destruction sequences over Earth's lifetime prior to humans being installed. I think the approach they take at Reasons to Believe is closer to the truth on this topic than a theistic evolution approach, based on the data. I would love to see a panel discussion with WLC, Behe, Ross, and Meyer discussing the nuances of all the issues involved.

You’ve got to see where the best arguments lie - WLC. If he believes in theistic evolution he certainly ain’t standing on the best arguments

Jesus Christ Himself created the universe together with His Father the God Almighty.(Genesis 1:26) Jesus Christ is the God.

Any type of evilution undermines the authority of scripture

Why would the example given here by Dr William Craig indicate macro vs micro evolution? I don’t know enough about the specific “broken” olfactory genes and how rare they might be, etc, but I wonder if such a thing might have been a result of micro evolution rather than macro.

In the past there was a unbiblical doctrine where they believed God made the universe in one day rather than 6 and their reasoning was that "God is all powerful He could do it in one" I fear that theistic evolution is another attempt at this from a different angle "I dont think God could do this in 6 days so ill believe in this" When i hear theistic evolution it worries me that Christians now want to limit Gods power. He could have used evolution sure, but that is not what scripture says and one has to use extra biblical sources to even come to that conclusion. So understand that many creationist believers see evolution as a undermining of Gods power and His nature.

The best argument comes from repeatable testable and observable evidence.

With the wealth of apologetics regarding the reliability of the Bible and the simple truth that the Bible should shape our beliefs... and the massive amount of work done by Answers in Genesis, ICR, Scientists who believe the Bible, Ken Ham and so many others ... I just don't understand why Christians believe in the idea of evolution at all.

Thanks CrossExamined

Guess what evolution is true and isn't heresy. Most of Christianity even accepts it. There is no evidence that indicates a designer. This has been proven false over and over again.

Also, the need for Vitamin C in humans and primates is often cited as another example. Most animals can bio manufacture their own ascorbic acid/Vit C. We cannot, due to a broken gene, so we need to acquire it from our diets. The exact location of the broken gene is also identical between apes and humans, which is revealing.

I'm a theist evolutionist however I don't exactly believe that it's upto random mutations. Inspiringphilosophy did a tedtalk on evolution being designed and a lengthy video on life being determined from the beginning.

History seems to only be about 6000 years old.

One either believes in the Word of God and believes in the 6 day creation narrative or you side with a flawed world view (evolution). Nowhere in scripture does it hold a case for evolution, NOWHERE! Too many professing Christians are mixing worldviews of flawed man with Gods written word. It's why so many Christians are thumbs up for same sex marriage, homosexual relationships, sex outside of marriage, materialism etc.

Michael Jones from Inspiring Philosophy has incredible videos about Genesis 1-11. It all makes sense.

Why isn’t someone like Hugh Ross asked about this? He’s an amazing scientist

Evolutionists and creationist constantly misunderstand creationism. A creationist does not have to accept that God designed any broken or purposeless functions because creationism does not teach that the world as we now know it is God's original design! Any function in nature that now operates imperfectly is the result of the corruption that creation inherited from the Fall. The fact that God's original design before the Fall still operates and sustains life after the Fall despite its corruption is evidence that God's original design is strong and intelligent.

So evolution is a fact.... great Thanks CE

God is able to create the universe on 7 days so why over complicate it for what the text says.

Machinery is complex in today’s world. Modern day manufactures (engineers) regularly put items / components that don’t help / are unnecessary to the specific machine they’re installed on. They do this at assembly for many reasons. One big reason is the “additional / unnecessary” items can be used by the manufacturer and not others. The manufacturer has proprietary / specialized tools only available in house which can make use out of the seemingly unusable components. What if a Manufacturer (God) utilized similar design methods when He put His creations together? Seems rational and logical. @crossexamined

Like children, theists say the darndest things

Not a single creationist understands Evolution.

How do you know they are broken systems?

God is an artist and an engineer (among many, many other things). Do not artists and engineers iterate, build upon, and incorporate aspects, from previous or adjacent designs? People often like to imagine that God simply snaps his fingers and in the blink of an eye everything is created out of thin air. I find this to be a very terrible perspective. If God is an artist, which He no doubt is, then why would he not mold his creations like clay within the bounds of the universe that he has created for them to exist within? My point is that the process in which God created/crafted all organisms on Earth could very likely be (understandably) confused with macro evolution. I simply don't see any evidence that suggests macro evolution is possible, from a genetic or mathematical perspective, without direct Divine intervention and guidance to move it beyond what is possible in the natural order.

Frank, I designed humans

Frank is talking about junk dna. Craig is talking about endogenous retro viruses (ERVs). The odds of us sharing ERVs with other apes without common ancestry is in the billions to one.

Non-functional genes is a concept grounded in the presupposition of evolution. The more correct observation is "we do not know the impact this gene has". Robert Carter has a few videos to demonstrate that a "lack of known function" is not the same as "known lack of function", and the latter seem to be almost nonexistent.

It's great to see apologists starting to move away from the errors of young earth creationism.

I think there's a lot more to our bodies and those of the animals than we can possibly understand, and the purposes God has for them are not within our current purview. For instance, our bodies were made in the Garden without death, disease, or many of the other limitations we now experience. So many mechanisms now present in our bodies being non-functional then suggests other abilities we could have had if there was no fall into sin, so at present they lie dormant. Of course those abilities of the body may also be recovered again upon resurrection. So evolution or common ancestry may not be the answer to such observations as those brought up by Dr. Craig.

A quick search on CMI found that pseudo genes are not exactly pseudo after all. They also play a role in epigenetics, and even if the genes are prone to breaking that doesn't mean that they are proof of a common ancestor. So I have to disagree with Dr William Lane Craig

What reason is there to attempt to insert a god into evolutionary theory?

"You have to see where the best arguments lie." Dr. W. L. Craig. Yes. Our choices lie either with God or with man. I choose God. He was present and then wrote the book There isn't enough time for The probability of a single amino acid forming by chance. It is a complete statistical improbability. "Your great learning is driving you mad." Acts 26:24.

Or it could have been a mechanism that broke it in more than one species. For example, viruses that infect both species.

Or we were able to use them before the fall and sin has corrupted up.

The great part of the Gospel is you don't have to believe Young or Old Earth. Just in Jesus. Don't let Christians or Atheists tell you you have to be one or the other. But Christianity and science aren't enemies. They have always walked hand in hand. Jesus lives ♥️ and is God 🙏🏻 Christ ✝️ and King 👑

At that time Jesus said, “I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because You have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this is what You were pleased to do. -Matthew 11: 25-26

Human chr2 has two sets of telomeres (the bookends of a chromosome): one on the ends (per usual), but also a sequence in the MIDDLE of the chr2. Chimp chr 2 and chr 3 code for largely the same aa that human chr2 does. The idea is that chimp chr2 fused to chimp chr3, begetting humanity. There are fossil (fragments) that seem to indicate a hominid morphological fluidity as ‘evolution’ progressed. No evidence indicates that radiometric decay rates have changed. The skulls etc for hominids are there, they’re not chimps, they’re not humans, there does appear to be a prehistoric timestamped gradualism in morphologies. So there’s all that. It’s not like the chimp-to-human idea is completely without apparently supportive evidence. I also don’t think Gen 1.1-2 imposes a 6000 year old earth. Could be bazillions of years old. There could have been untold billions of years of history going on here on earth before God wiped the slate clean and started the present Adamic age from a state of chaos remnant of his destruction, being unsatisfied that he could not commune with his creations, having not been made by him in his image. However, no evidence has any tendency to make more likely the notion that speciation is possible, and much of the creatures we deem to have been different species are the same species, indicating that less ‘speciation’ has occurred even if it has at all. (All canine, feline, ursa and many other animals can all interbreed to form fertile offspring, so it’s not like a tiger is a different species than a cerval). Rather, life seems reluctant to change, and almost all mutations are either detrimental or uneventful, and gamete mutations are almost always self-culled and far less frequent than somatic mutation. I think there were billions of years of God’s creations before he wiped the slate and made adam in his own image. God may have destroyed and remade the earth and its creatures several times, because our God is an awesome creative artist. All that jazz about the cretaceous and jurassic periods may all be legit. But no amount of time increases the likelihood that ants “share a common ancestor with” anteaters. It’s fun to watch chimp shows on animal planet. They’ve vicious, roaming and romping and stomping and smashing and tearing and eating other tribe’s chimps. Do we look at that and say “those chimps are being immoral”? No. We say “that’s nature.” But not with us. Yet we’re all just animals right? There’s no such thing as morality in darwin’s world of eat or be eaten. With us, when we exercise our fittest survival traits to eliminate rival humans for competing resources, we might say that’s “immoral.” The same people who say humans are animals say that humans are the only moral animals. That doesn’t hold water. Either we’re animals or we’re moral, but we’re not both. I think that great deception is coming and it’ll involve lies about the origin of humanity, lies which comport with the darwinian faerynarrative.

Question? To those of you Christian’s here who believe in evolution . Do you believe that Jesus evolved?

Seek where the best arguments lie

The inclusion of common non functional DNA in similar animals does not necessitate a common ancestry by Darwinian evolution. It could be common origin in God's production line of species. There's no reason why theistic evolution could not contain seemingly dud information in one species from previous "dust =DNA" that God used to create the new species.

If one believes in theistic macro evolution, you will in all likelihood be left behind soon (especially those who are putting forth that nonsense). And when you are, I can only hope you've read the below as you can still be saved. Did millions of people just “disappear"? Jesus came! What's next? If this event has just happened, I am truly sorry you are reading this letter right now. If I had witnessed the instantaneous removal of every born again Christian and genuine follower of Jesus Christ from the Earth, and the resulting chaos, I would be absolutely terrified. My purpose in writing this letter is to help you survive, and to share what to expect next. That said, if this hasn’t happened quite yet, make no mistake, IT SOON WILL (and you still have time to do something about it). First of all, please understand that it wasn't “aliens”, "climate change", or any other "lie" that the government and media is currently telling you where everyone went (regardless of how plausible it sounds, or even looks). Remember how realistic movies appear that come out of Hollywood, Marvel, etc. Don't buy it for a second, as your life depends on it. Also don't believe the lies from the left behind “professing” Christians/churches that are saying “it couldn't have been Jesus, because we’re still here!” Well, there's a reason they're all still here (which I'll address later). Don't believe ANY of these people, for they are all children of the father of lies. (John 8:44) So, what did happen? All of the people who, trusted in the death and shed blood of Jesus on the cross, and believed in His resurrection for the forgiveness of their sins, have bypassed death and have gone to Heaven in a moment called the “Rapture” (1 Thessalonians 4:13-17, 1 Corinthians 15:51-52, Matthew 24:36-44). Those who have disappeared are now safely home in Heaven. Heaven can also be YOUR destiny. Whatever your background, Jesus Christ is the "key" to unlock eternity with God, and all those who have disappeared. That said, if by chance you happen to come across this letter, and this event has "not" happened yet, I implore you to get right with Jesus IMMEDIATELY. He’s standing at the door, your door, awaiting an invitation to come in (Revelation 3:20). Believe Jesus became man, died, was buried, and rose again, so that by His shed blood on the cross, you can be saved when you BELIEVE and put your FAITH in Him for the forgiveness of your sins. There's nothing you can do to "earn" salvation, it's a free gift from Jesus when you believe and put your trust in Him for your forgiveness. Find a Bible and look up Romans 3:10, Romans 3:23, Romans 6:23, John 3:16-17, 2 Peter 3:9, Romans 10:9-13 and Ephesians 2:8-9. My dear friend, please don't delay, as you don't want to be “left behind” when the Rapture does soon come to pass. If the Rapture has indeed just happened, and millions upon millions have vanished, PLEASE keep reading. Now is the time to rethink your belief system. As it states in Matthew 7:21-23, folks who thought they had Heaven locked up by their good works, or by simply attending church/saying a few prayers, are now currently quite surprised and horrified that they too have been left behind. As, at this point, Jesus has said to them, “I never knew you.” Many probably thought of Jesus as their savior, but did not have a personal and saving relationship with Him. It's like knowing who the President is, but not "personally" knowing him (nor he you). There is a huge difference between factual knowledge and a relationship. Seek that “relationship” now! Perhaps you had entirely dismissed Christianity as ridiculous, narrow minded, bigoted, or unjust. Maybe you even said, “How can Jesus be the ONLY way? That’s not fair!” Being left behind is now your wake-up-call and proof that Jesus IS the only way. Please commit to following Him today, and call on His name for your forgiveness. For when you hear His voice, don't harden your heart. (Hebrews 3:15) To initiate this relationship, talk with God, and cry out to Him (Acts 2:21). What can you do? I pray that you have now taken this all important and ETERNAL step with Jesus at this point, and if so, I'll be looking forward to seeing you one day soon. That said, and until that time, I don't want to sugar coat what you're about to experience the next 7 years. The horrific period known as “the Tribulation”. A time of God’s judgement for humanity’s rebellion. What's coming is God’s just and due wrath upon a Christ rejecting, and sinful world. God’s wrath will be awful, one curse after another as described in the book of Revelation. And understand, even if you have now received Jesus into your life, you are now liable to die for Him, just as He died for you (all for your newfound faith). In the Bible, it even talks about those that are now following Jesus being beheaded. I don't say this to frighten you, but just as a warning of what Scripture tells us, so you might be prepared. Read the New Testament and Revelation, over and over again for more knowledge. Remember, God had patience with you before the Rapture, and did not want you to have to experience this time period. Even though you previously rejected Him and His free gift of salvation, you can still be spared from an eternity in Hell IF you have put your faith and trust in Jesus Christ alone to save you. So again, I want to encourage you to now trust in Jesus, and He'll help you persevere through the Tribulation. Hard times are definitely coming. What else do you need to know? The people now left behind will divide into two groups. The majority will be looking to the government to save them and restore order. You may have heard of the "anti-Christ" (a future one world leader), the false prophet, and the “mark of the beast.” This man will come into power, as the nations around the world give him all authority. He will violently oppose those that are now following Jesus after the Rapture, and at some point, the anti-Christ will even institute a "mark" (a symbol or implant of some kind) that ALL must take in worship of him. Without this mark, people will not be able to transact any commerce. People will not be able to even buy food, resources, or obtain any governmental services. Whatever you do, DO NOT ACCEPT THIS MARK, which will likely be placed on your forehead/brain or your hand/arm, in order that you may buy or sell. This mark could come disguised as some “beneficial” health requirement (a cure for all disease perhaps) or transhumanism (evil’s attempt to improve God’s original design). It may even come with the "promise" of eternal life. Don’t believe it! As when one is in Christ, “this world” is not our final destination. The New Heaven and New Earth will be. PLEASE understand that there is NO HOPE for those that take this “mark”. This is crucial! Earthly survival is not worth an eternity in Hell. (Revelation 13:11-18 and Revelation 14:9-11) I expect that your survival will depend on your ability to function outside of the "system" you've become accustomed to (due to the enemy now being in complete control worldwide). Get smart. Get offline. Do not leave an electronic trail. No credit cards, only cash, or barter (if at all possible). That said, cash won’t last long, and may even go away immediately after the Rapture. Why? Because as I discussed above, the new anti-Christ system will forbid anyone to buy or sell without the “mark” at some point, so they'll want to begin tracking your, and everyone's, EVERY move and EVERY transaction, right away. Think social credit score. You either do what “they” tell you to do, or you won’t get what you need to survive. Lastly, embrace hope! Jesus PROMISES to return again at the end of this 7 year Tribulation to reign forevermore. He will return as the conquering victorious King of Kings, and Lord of Lords. Jesus came the first time as a sacrificial Lamb, but when He returns this last time, it will be as the Lion from the tribe of Judah! When you receive Jesus' forgiveness, connect intimately with God and other Jesus followers during this time. Read the Bible and learn to recognize the Shepherd’s Voice. (John 10:4) If you still haven't turned to Jesus yet, may I ask, what are you waiting for? This is life and death serious. Eternal life and eternal death serious. “And just as each person is destined to die once and after that comes judgment.” (Hebrews 9:27) Jesus’ forgiveness has an expiration date, and you’ve likely already passed up the “Best if used by” date (the Rapture), so PLEASE don’t let this last date expire. As all that will remain for you at that point is regret, despair, and everlasting torment. Remembering forever how it could have been so much different, had you chosen not to harden your heart, but instead, received Jesus and accepted His grace (John 3:3). Love must be freely given, otherwise it’s not love, and Jesus isn’t going to force anyone into a relationship with Him. We will all spend eternity somewhere, it’s just a matter of location. Jesus loves you, He died for you, so why not live for Him now? For when you do, you’ll also live with Him forever. Life versus death. Heaven versus Hell. The choice is clear, but which will “you” choose? Jesus’ part is finished (John 19:30), the rest is up to you. Admit you’re a sinner, Believe Jesus is Lord, Call upon His name. Let TODAY be the day of your salvation! I hope and pray that you do, as I sure would love to meet you one day. May the Lord bless you and keep you, may His face shine upon you, and give you peace.

Discuss telomere fusion theory and evidence, to get more info about unused chromosomal evidence found, perhaps. I wont say more because i dont want to get censored.

Sounds like "Did God really say...?" God can do anything, and death only entered the world through Adam and Eve's sin. No human was at the birth of creation, but Jesus Christ supported the Scriptures as true every time. I trust Jesus and His Father. All other ground is sinking sand.

Heresy

Also, fellow Christians should really try to stay quiet when referring to things like entropy. For example, they often oversimplify entropy, arguing that orderly systems contradict it. Although disorder is part of entropy and often used analogously, there's also something called "spontaneous order" that arises from entropic systems. I believe in God, but this oversimplification of entropy is a strawman and it is rather cringe worthy to see it being used confidently.

Love WLC but he is way off on what creationists believe and what the evidence shows about the evolutionary theory.

I generally like William Lane Craig, but this made me cringe. I mean... Adam ate a piece of fruit he was told not to eat. And then he blamed God. That broke the world. Why would it be surprising that many living things now have genes that are broken after that?

Plug data into these formulas for absolute truth and non truth.

Let's face it they don't have a clue ..just fishing..god created he knows

I don't quite know what to think about the age of the Earth, but stop acting like a believer is damned or trying to circumvent God's word just tbecause they believe in theistic evolution.

WLC's argument, while appears to be quite reasonable, has a lot of assumptions, too. God can arrange genomes, where to us appear broken, but serve a function. It doesn't have to have a purpose that we know of anyway to still be a creation design. Love WLC's material, but not this argument.

Frank is not a biologist or a chemist, Craig is not a biologist or a chemist. How would they know ?

straight up Hersey and prioritizing man's word over God's word. like sure lets take the ideas of people trying figure out how we came about without a God and try and twist them to fit in the Bible. what could possibly go wrong

Deconstruction

This is quite impressive from WLC as truncated genes are only explained by common ancestry. Seems Frank is desperately looking for excuses to not accept it but a relatively honest chat for a change.

Craig needs to stick to Philosophy, he recognizes the false belief of "junk" DNA, I get he's trying to give the evolution side their best point, maybe that's all he was doing. I follow Michael Behe, obviously I agree with him on much, but disagree on much, I'm with Myer and Turek on this.

Frank doesn't know the difference between the law of contradiction, formula p is non p, subjective relative reasoning. And, law of contradiction, formula p isn't non p, p is p, objective reason. Plug data into formulas. I am shadow banned and my arguments are being deleted and made non visible.

Congratulation William, all atheists rushing to defend your position. You can't make these things up. Chicken, chicken, chicken... did you take your boosters too ... doctors?

God can't simply create Humans from nothing? He lets things self create? Is there anything he does or can do?

Enter Epigenetics where BEHAVIOR and environment turn on/off various genes. Biggest BEHAVIOR that directly impacts the genome is sin. When sin entered the world, so did sickness and death.

Theistic evolution So just admitting evolution real but because we can’t directly observe us evolving from apes Just saying evolution is true up till the point it removes god

No longer a fan of WH Craig

THE BIBLE TELLS ALL dont put mans ideas en thoughts in THE BIBLE who shall outlive all textbooks made my simple mans

Craig has to make some serious assumptions to come to that conclusion.

Or you could use the fossil record…which I don’t think Frank has ever taken a look at because he’s being paid to confirm his beliefs.

False scientific hypothesis p is non p, evolution depends on this formula being true which is absolutely objectively false.

What silly arguments

Theistic Evolution is heresy because it essentially calls God a liar. God tells us in Genesis 1 & 2 how He created the universe. If He'd done it a different way, He'd have told us a different way. God is jealous for His Glory as Creator.

William Lane Craig is not the person to answer this question.

I would give theistic evolution a bit more credibility if it weren't for "and then there was evening and there was morning the first day" "The second day" "The third Day"...... There is only one evening and one morning in a day not millions. Translating the word day as anything other than a single day makes no sense within context.