This brought back memories. My dad was a typesetter and used the saw for cutting lead type. Non other than Thomas Edison said the most important invention in the history of man was the Linotype. It reduced the cost of printed word to the point that everyone could afford books and newspapers. Photo-offset typesetting rendered the Linotype obsolete on the early 80s. Dad still had a saw in his worship for exactly the reason you gave, small precision jobs. Thanks for reminding me of Dad.
@markkearney959 Жыл бұрын
I also used this type of saw and a linotype in the early 90s as part of my apprenticeship when working in the family printing business in North Wales, UK My sister took over the typesetting using an Amstrad 1640 and the typesetting software of the day (using code for the size and style of type (well before windows became popular)). I kept the saw after my father retired, it was a great piece of precision machinery (it even had a screw adjustable fence in point size) I still use the pica as a measurement when working on a project with my dad. Sadly, the linotype was scrapped
@markkearney959 Жыл бұрын
The one we had also gad a lead plane as part of the blade.
@gingerelvis Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I was trying to figure out how this would fit into typesetting. I studied and worked in print in the 2000s/2010s, mostly litho and screen printing but was around a little bit of letterpress. I moved onto graphic design as I saw the industry shrinking around me but the experience and knowledge has been invaluable, great memories too.
@AnthonyStabler Жыл бұрын
@@markkearney959 I was offered a working linotype few years ago. sadly I don't have a heated space large enough for that monster. It was quite a chore to the molds from jamming. Guy who ran it everyday were masters of their machines.
@markkearney959 Жыл бұрын
@@AnthonyStabler I loved my time in front of the keys on the one I used to use. It had its own character, and with the old leather belts and metal fixings, it used to play its own tune. We would float a pork pie on the lead to warm up for lunch and for the thrill seeker in me, there was always a little excitement when the moulds hadn't quite sealed against the lead injectors and the odd splash of lead would be sent airborne. On another note, the keyboard was great, and it took me a long time to get used to a qwerty keyboard once I finished
@TheSmallWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Maybe you could put some spacers on the 3 bolts holding the nameplate, so it will kinda float and allow for air circulation to cool the motor.
@rollsroyce7325 Жыл бұрын
Franck, you are the LEONARDO DA VINCI of the wood
@bengoerzen712 Жыл бұрын
Frank, if its feasible I'm sure we would all enjoy the video that is you rearranging and discussing the why of your shop!
@bowboysam Жыл бұрын
These saws were used by me to cut lead rules, lead spacers and trim half-tone photographic plates. Type was very rarely if ever cut on these. The only time I cut type on this was when I cut 2 Monotype S characters in half to insert a rule to make a dollar sign. It was extremely dangerous, I remember it well. The font didn’t come with one in England and luckily we only needed one to do the job.😁 the groove in the bed is where the clamp went to secure the stock in place. If you look up funditor saw you will see many examples.
@frankmakes Жыл бұрын
Super helpful, thanks for the info.
@dugost3 ай бұрын
@@frankmakes I imagine you've come across this in the meantime or perhaps someone else has pointed it out but there's a PDF to download if you google "C&G Sawliner - GalleyRack[.]com". Unfortunately, it only shows the machine with the nameplate side so no idea if that's mirrored on the other or not. Neat to read about though.
@theherboretum Жыл бұрын
I have one with a sliding table (left-side); cross-cuts only. The fence has a micro-adjust with .1 picas per detent (so, that's what, 1/128 inch?). Ridiculous levels of precision capable with that saw! It was given to me by my Dad who was a printer for over 50 years. He had a machine shop fabricate a 45-degree "jig" that fits the table (likely for woodwork, can't imagine a printing need for 45 degree lead "slugs").
@HBSuccess Жыл бұрын
I spent a lot of time as a kid/teenager operating a Hammond metal saw in our printshop.. very similar type of tool tool, made to trim hot lead type slugs, plates, and other letterpress printing things. Insanely accurate.
@krmould Жыл бұрын
Hi Frank, I watched the whole series on building your shop. At the time, I thought it was massive. Each time you bring in a new piece of equipment, I realise that no matter how big you built it, there would always be more things to add than there would be room.
@frankmakes Жыл бұрын
It's getting to where I need to clear out some stuff lol
@krmould Жыл бұрын
@@frankmakes Hi Frank, it has been nine years since you built your shop. I think it would be a great idea to do a new shop tour, specifically, I would love to hear what you feel you got right, what you wish you would have done differently, and where you see things changing in the future. You have what many of us think would be a dream shop, but watching the building-of videos, it is clear that things like the CNC machine were not on your radar when you built the shop. Dreams have a tendency to evolve over time, and things like the one foot wide electrical power strip help "future proof" the shop. Do you wish you had put more things like underground conduit for electrical in the center of the shop?
@sethalump Жыл бұрын
Never seen one of these before. Also I loved the little Homer quotes.
@MultiKlompen Жыл бұрын
13:08 I think thats for dusk collection. If your dustcollection is on the left or on the right side of your trimming saw. The cover is for the hole you dont need.
@Jehty_ Жыл бұрын
I don't think so. Because that hole is right next to the motor. A hole for dust collection would be by the blade (just where the dust bin is)
@sshuggi Жыл бұрын
Being a typesetter saw, it will have sawn lead slugs of inverse text. So, the "dust" would have fallen mostly straight down to the bin.
@michaelmeyer4497 Жыл бұрын
"Two Clamps and a Shim" - Frank's autobiography proposal to Simon and Schuster.
@davelennie1591 Жыл бұрын
Homer and his bed comments makes me laugh every time. Great stuff, Frank.
@AnthonyStabler Жыл бұрын
I'm an old letterpressman. That is a lead saw.the original blade had 3 holes for trimmers stick through to clean up the edge of your lead spacing & cast linotype. You need the trimmers to make measurements on the 'miter guage' accurate. The measurements were 12 points to a pica, 6 picas to an inch or 72 points to an inch. Leading came in 1, 2, 6,& 12 point strips. I still use my line guage every day but now I use the metric & imperial measurements on the other side. The hook on the end is very useful. Too bad you didn't get all the accessories that go with the saw. The hole on the right side was a mount for a grinding wheel. Find a blade with a nagative rake angle will help with the ragged cuts. I have that exact saw in my shop. I still use it for lead. The drawer was for lead shavings. My father dold me he had molds for casting little army men, but I have yet to find some. You're the best, Frank!
@frankmakes Жыл бұрын
I'm learning so much more about this. Saw after I published the video? Thanks for the info.
@GordonCrago Жыл бұрын
Here’s a link to the brochure: www.galleyrack.com/images/artifice/letters/press/comproom/saw/cg/cg-sawliner-printers-saw-brochure-c1-0600dpijpg.pdf
@JonDunnmusician Жыл бұрын
Frank we have always been kindred spirits: you summed it up perfectly when you said you would spend your time making things more creative than the things you can buy
@JonDunnmusician Жыл бұрын
By the way hope you & family have a wonderful holiday season Frank
@rick9811 Жыл бұрын
When you mentioned about rearranging your tablesaws and your Battleship-like jointer you do realize that is going to be a 14 men and a mule team task of Herculean proportions!
@JonDunnmusician Жыл бұрын
SMILE
@craigduddles5650 Жыл бұрын
I learned typography by hand setting foundry type. It's been decades but if memory serves we used a saw like this for cutting "slug" lead strips that separated lines of type. The cubbies under the saw were for those strips which came in different thicknesses. The blade cover and dust bin was to contain the lead dust.
@richh5392 Жыл бұрын
'It goes up', 'It goes down'. Superb detail.
@calivalley9056 Жыл бұрын
I would add a dust collect port at that second hole. Cool little saw!
@steveseeger Жыл бұрын
At first I thought it would have looked good re-painted, but by the end of the video the patina is really part of what makes it special!
@usualsuspectsfor1k Жыл бұрын
This and the Hammond Trm-O-Saw (Hammond Glider) were not used to trim paper products, they were used to trim cast type blocks back when type was hand set. The blocks were made primarily of wood or lead. *From a 2nd gen printer with a woodworking habit.
@David_Best Жыл бұрын
I used this saw myself when I was a kid. My father was a journeyman printer back in the hot-type era. He worked as composing room foreman for the local daily newspaper, but also set up a letterpress shop in our home basement. This saw was used all the time to cut the lead slugs - some spacers, some lines, some from the output of a Linotype machine. This brings back so many memories from my own time in the home letterpress shop - 1950's in Joplin Missouri. Thanks for posting this.
@167curly Жыл бұрын
It's great to see that saw cleaned up and restored by you, Frank. It's always good to see tools have a new lease on life.
@robthewaywardwoodworker9956 Жыл бұрын
What a great old piece. If you can't find a spot for it... I know a guy. Cheers.
@schlenbea Жыл бұрын
The homer simposon snippet had me laughing so hard! Thanks Frank!
@andrewwebb2141 Жыл бұрын
“Bed goes up” 🤪 Love it every time
@turnerscorner9516 Жыл бұрын
You really added too that machine with the draws a service. Top job.
@makethepart Жыл бұрын
Frank the music at 10:40 had me grinning ear to ear. I love finding a project to justify a tool purchase. Thanks for sharing!
@dustinpendergast Жыл бұрын
I love the dedication to using the Simpson’s reference over multiple videos lol
@gusaleman5474 Жыл бұрын
Hi Frank, I really appreciate you going through the effort in finding something with good content. Appreciate your efforts in filming.😊
@davidhaworth7152 Жыл бұрын
Love HOMER! Bed goes up, bed goes down😂
@awldune Жыл бұрын
Given that the holes in the case seem to line up perfectly with the motor and pulley, I am thinking there may have been an optional accessory to run off the motor, and/or a provision to run the machine off of a line shaft.
@barbazzz Жыл бұрын
Or there might have been some accesories that you can mount to motorshaft like drillchuck 🤔
@MikesLeTour83 Жыл бұрын
Or hook up a shop vac……. Probably not the original intention because there were no shop vacs back then. 😄
@beefchicken Жыл бұрын
It was probably for an accessory. I have a printer’s saw that has provisions for a blade sharpening accessory that attaches to the motor.
@candesearl Жыл бұрын
Well done Frank. Loved the background commentary in the beginning! Very funny.
@daizamaker-jerrybraswell1997 Жыл бұрын
That is a cool saw!
@thekauffman Жыл бұрын
To reinforce the epoxy of the guard: I would drill and tap some holes in the side of the guard and bolt a second metal plate to it for reinforcement.
@jimhowardbatey410 Жыл бұрын
Your animations are amazing. Perhaps you could make a video that show how you do them.
@iamthewelcher Жыл бұрын
Yeah...he has a few in the library
@walkmanamtc Жыл бұрын
When you said that the blade guard was broken in two pieces, I immediately flashed to @mymechanics and thought "I made a new one" and forgot which channel I was watching. If you haven't seen his channel, well worth the visit. I can imagine what he'd do with a restoration of that saw!
@faokie Жыл бұрын
15:14 I'd be opening and closing the drawer constantly just for that sound
@raymitchell9736 Жыл бұрын
That looks nice! A cute saw and the drawers make it look useful.
@ryanlangan1060 Жыл бұрын
That type of saw was typically used for lead type for printing presses. It may have residual lead dust in the cabinet.
@brentfowler2317 Жыл бұрын
Awesome work Frank! I really enjoyed this video, your take on things, and the way you go about a task is always inspirational! And is always outside the box, well done!! Until next time, take care.
@dansvec5411 Жыл бұрын
Frank, I love your videos! I've been successful with the type of epoxy repairs like the guard by putting a thin layer of fiberglass fabric on each side. The fiberglass keep the crack from propagating from the surfaces and the epoxy holds it all together. Keep up the amazing content!
@dansvec5411 Жыл бұрын
@frankhowarth. thank you Frank! I wasn't expecting anything, let me know what's up -Dan
@elluisito000 Жыл бұрын
This little machine reminds me of those saws used to open the fret slots when building guitars and such :D nice little machine
@GS-wx5pr Жыл бұрын
Homer ... BEYOND hilarious!
@MyGrowthRings Жыл бұрын
That’s a very interested saw, Frank. Thanks for sharing it and going into all the details too. I used to work in an architectural millwork shop that had loads of large saws, but also kept my Shopsmith near my bench and found that I used it for all my intricate work, just like I’m sure you’ll find this saw handy for. Very cool stuff. Scott
@mrkitty410 Жыл бұрын
This video is awesome right
@chemcody5119 Жыл бұрын
Hi Frank. We had a similar saw that we cut lead type with. It finished its life cutting plywood for dies. Ours was in pretty bad shape and had no guards or fence. It was sent to the scrap yard a few years ago. It was nice to see one given new life. Merry Christmas!
@BillGatliff Жыл бұрын
Loved the Homer Simpson shout-out. 🤣
@lilmisstrixie Жыл бұрын
It makes me happy to see that this was posted about an hour ago and it already has over 5000 views.
@beefchicken Жыл бұрын
C & G became C & G Morrison. I have one of their saws and it’s unique in that you hold work to the back of the fence. Mine is equipped with a neat little ratcheting/cam clamping system to help with that.
@sapelesteve Жыл бұрын
Looks like a nice little saw to have in the shop Frank. As far as that blade guard repair, I would use some thin Aluminum and cut it to fit over the outside surface of that repaired seam. Then just epoxy it over the seam. You could even use a few small screws to hold it in place as well. Or if you had access to a welder, just weld the outside of the seam. 👍👍
@dnngskn62 Жыл бұрын
Nice find Frank.
@EoThorne Жыл бұрын
I love your stop animations. ❤
@thomasduke8909 Жыл бұрын
Love Homers voice!
@MCsCreations Жыл бұрын
Beautiful work, Frank! 😃 Really amazing looking little tool! I loved it! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@markdoldon8852 Жыл бұрын
Who knew they made saws specifically for type? Makes perfect sense but I just never gave it a thought.
@abrenning2499 Жыл бұрын
You’re very close to having enough tools. 👍🏻
@thanatos66613 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@justinmay7817 Жыл бұрын
The spaces where the drawers are going would have had galley trays of type ready to be cut to the correct width (in ems) for columns of type in newspapers or commercial print shops. The saw was a pretty essential tool in letterpress printing especiall for cutting “slugs” of type from linotype or ludlow hot metal type setting.
@frankmakes Жыл бұрын
We were wondering what originally went in those cubbies.
@dryroasted5599 Жыл бұрын
You should add a strain relief to the electrical cord where it comes out of the cabinet. A clamp-style electrical box nut should work fine. It might seem unnecessary, but the cord is old, and will appreciate the support.
@gregmize01 Жыл бұрын
That saw is adorable!😁
@Psychlist1972 Жыл бұрын
"never took off the back cover" Somehow, there's a tiny cameraman in there already ;)
@bradasskg11 Жыл бұрын
Those quiet little messages were really starting to freak me out lol thought I was going insane “Bed goes down”
@michaelparr4329 Жыл бұрын
Braze - solder that aluminum gard, do injoy your content thanks for sharing
@eatenkate Жыл бұрын
Frank has a slight saw problem and I'm here for it!
@ernie5229 Жыл бұрын
You should put spacers over the bolts for the name plate. That way it would also serve as a vent for the motor.
@helmanfrow Жыл бұрын
I was quietly hoping for a soup-to-nuts restoration in the style of _My Mechanics_ but this was good, too. :)
@jcortese3300 Жыл бұрын
Someone has to say this: dude, you go out of your way to build all of these very creative, robust pieces of furniture that look beautiful and also like they can outlast a nuclear bombardment, and then you move heavy equipment into your workroom via two bendy planks that WILL give way under you at some point and buy you a head x-ray in the process and possibly two steel knees. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE will you build some clever, robust folding ramps of some kind so we don't have to cringe every time we see you move newly acquired equipment into your shop? We want you to remain in as few pieces as you are in currently, okay?
@jarhead9307 Жыл бұрын
Or at least put some cribbing underneath the ramps Frank! You have access to free millwright services, use it!
@Kami8705 Жыл бұрын
He has a gantry crane, and a setup to roll a piece onto a platform above his stairs, pick it up with the gantry, roll the drawers out of the way, and lower it onto a cart. It sounds like it just wasn't convenient to get for this small of an item
@MCsCreations Жыл бұрын
All I can say is that I already have some steel teeth... And it's definitely not fun to put them in. So imagine knees. 😬
@davidepperson2376 Жыл бұрын
Amen!
@mattparker8304 Жыл бұрын
Or at least have the saw go first so it doesn’t run you over
@randywright7933 Жыл бұрын
I really do enjoy your content especially "table goes up " in homer simpsons voice. Ive heard you use that for maybe a year or so and i always enjoy that portion too.
@tedphillips1 Жыл бұрын
that nameplate is gorgeous. it could act as a vent as well with a few standoffs -- combined with the other side, you would get a cross breeze. though something tells me that great big motor won't often struggle on such a small saw
@41divad Жыл бұрын
Reality great to watch, including your thought processes. I have some similar approaches
@Grumpyneanderthal Жыл бұрын
If the epoxy doesn’t hold it can be tig welded.
@williamellis8993 Жыл бұрын
That's a really neat tool to have. Can you use that other hole in the side of the cabinet for dust collection? Bill
@artjoly6348 Жыл бұрын
Easy peasey. This is for cutting spacing material and Linotype/Intertype and Ludlow slugs to length. It's designed to measure PIcas and Points. Be forewarned, points are 1/72 inch.
@dan__________________ Жыл бұрын
You should have a local shop that could sharpen the blade.
@afpwebworks Жыл бұрын
AH!!! At last, Frank. We have something in common. You've reached the limit of table saws you can have in your workshop for reasons of space. Your limit is 3. My limit is 1. (I reached that a long time ago.). Oh and by the way, a minor point, the measurement in typography is Pica, pronounced "PEE-ca" not "PIE - ca."
@arnhemseptember2009 Жыл бұрын
Nice classic machine!
@nashvillain171 Жыл бұрын
14:53 You need a rubber gasket around that power cord that will rub against the metal (saw that in a picture of a similar C&G Sawliner).
@ps.2 Жыл бұрын
Indeed I was waiting the whole video for him to add a grommet there.
@nashvillain171 Жыл бұрын
@@ps.2 GROMMET...that's the word I was looking for.
@Kami8705 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a shop tour update/shop reorganization video
@DavidRavenMoon Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen these at a couple of print shops I worked. They were intended for cutting lead type. I always thought it would be neat to have one.
@AlishaN-yh5nf Жыл бұрын
That saw is cute
@TheBlueMuzzy Жыл бұрын
I have 5 of that same bora mobile base. It will forever be my favorite, though I think it's better when you get all 4 wheels to be castor instead of only 2.
@jeffweber8244 Жыл бұрын
Some rubbing compound and wax will make that old paint shine.
@neffk Жыл бұрын
Nice video. It's a great find and beautiful cabinet. However, if the repair fails, the guard could fall on the blade. It looks like you could scab on a piece on top of the guard... even if it's glued on, it'll be an improvement over the butt joint. JB Weld is fine but I'd consider Black Max.
@joshuahasson9687 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps turn that dust drawer into a dust collection port.
@ericcommarato7727 Жыл бұрын
I have a Hammond Trim-O-Saw and love it.
@johnmcclanahan2272 Жыл бұрын
I do, too.
@AnthonyStabler Жыл бұрын
Me too.
@djnagle9 ай бұрын
If the blade guard comes undone, take it to your local welding shop and have them braze it together.
@Grumpyneanderthal Жыл бұрын
Nice addition to your tool collection. Space seems to always be an issue….
@SciPunk215 Жыл бұрын
Very nice.
@I_M_Nonno Жыл бұрын
I found that using some nylon of teflon runners on the bottom of the slides makes operation much easier. A plastic cutting board is a cheap source for this.
@rodpotts2666 Жыл бұрын
i bet if you put a link belt on that it would sound way smoother, it made a huge difrence on my old delta.
@mists_of_time Жыл бұрын
"it's really nice to make squares", a tablesaw is called "squadratrice" in Italian. It literally means "square-makers"
@jdhannan Жыл бұрын
Frank might have more drawers than anyone in the world
@MaxRokkatansky Жыл бұрын
Dear Frank, if you go down a ramp with a rolling object, the object always gets down first. If something goes wrong, all you have to do is to let go. Stay save :)
@grumblycurmudgeon Жыл бұрын
I have a Hammond trim-o-saw (a sliding top typography saw) that I use when I need VERY precise cuts (intarsia, unusual joinery, etc.). Built in the 50's, it's solid cast iron (I had to use and engine hoist to get it up onto a mobile base). Forrest will make you a custom blade out of a woodworker II, but they come dear. Best advice I can give is CLEAN THE CRAP outta it, and wear a mask! These things were for cutting LEAD and trust me: think lead PAINT was bad?
@grumblycurmudgeon Жыл бұрын
Also, thinking about it: theres a bloke on the machinejunky and practicalmachinist forums - crzypete, I think his name was - who has a guide for converting the guides from pics to inches or mm, if you care.
@scottb.2022 Жыл бұрын
I think this saw was used for cutting lead printiing type used in the letterpress printers commonly used for newsprint in the days gone by.
@cgstadler Жыл бұрын
Do you mean to actually cut the letters themselves out of a blank of lead? Like, getting inside the spaces of an “N” for instance?
@scottb.2022 Жыл бұрын
@@cgstadler No, cutting blocks of letters (or picture) to size. The actual letters were made using molds.
@mikevukas9818 Жыл бұрын
Great video has always! Perhaps the extra hole could become a dust collection port?
@jefferywright4204 Жыл бұрын
Frank - Try low temperature aluminum brazing or TIG welding to repair your saw guard.
@justinmay7817 Жыл бұрын
The saw would cut in point, picas, ens and ems. The saw would cut “type high” (0.918”) square cuts. There would have been accurate mitre gauge. It looks like some guarding has been removed, this gaurding was designed stop cutting off the operators right thumb.
@HyperactiveNeuron Жыл бұрын
I wonder if you could attach your dust collection system into the hole on the left side. It is the blade side of the motor and dust did collect there. Hmmm 🤔 Just a thought. Very cool video and find. I love videos about rehoming and refurbishing old tools like this. I bet that motor has lots of life left in it.
@misterfixie6003 Жыл бұрын
Bed goes up!
@sshuggi Жыл бұрын
13:41 Might want to make a grommet for that cord going through the metal hole. A few years of vibrations can wear through the plastic of the cord and short the power lines to the case.
@frankmakes Жыл бұрын
Oh yes, I was thinking about that too. Good catch
@MJ-nb1qn Жыл бұрын
@@frankmakes Well, if we all live that long anyway!