Juggling Table Saws

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frank howarth

frank howarth

Күн бұрын

In the middle of the shop, I have three table saws that are connected into one large table. Two of the saws are a Powermatic 72 and a Powermatic 66. These two saws I use all the time. They face each other; each is the outfeed table for the other saw. Next to these two saws, I have an Oliver 88 which I haven't used as much. In this project, I fixed the wobbly arbor on the Oliver 88, so the blade now runs straight and true. I also moved the Oliver 88 to become the side table for the Powermatic 66. This allowed me to use the fence from the 66 on both the 66 and the Oliver 88 giving the Oliver a fence and making the saw much more useful. I also adjusted the Powermatic 72 slightly so it is slightly further away from the Powermatic 66. I adjusted the fence on the 72 so I have more space to the left of the blade which I found to be more useful. Also, the emergency stop button on the 72 is a little more accessible. The entire setup got slightly narrower and a little bit longer, but I'm finding it very useful.
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0:00 (introduction)
1:20 (fixing)
4:17 (moving 88-D)
9:40 (moving 66)
14:18 (moving 72)
18:28 (all together)
22:10 (conclusion)

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@MrQuickLine
@MrQuickLine Жыл бұрын
I love that Frank just says "Matthias" and we all know who he's talking about.
@filmer197
@filmer197 Жыл бұрын
is that that dude in canada with ugly baby? i think i watched him years ago.if it's the one...
@seanedwards5324
@seanedwards5324 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I instantly remembered the video 😂
@SlabGuy
@SlabGuy Жыл бұрын
The OG KZfaq woodworkers.
@RoubinCreations
@RoubinCreations Жыл бұрын
​@@filmer197 ugly baby?
@clarencek3658
@clarencek3658 Жыл бұрын
Who is he talking about ?
@SuperBill68
@SuperBill68 11 ай бұрын
You do have to spend some time setting the saw up... blade, fence, etc. But once done, the saw is great. Fairly compact which is Nice kzfaq.infoUgkxXh-4_3-ZT1fFWP91ZV7iVqzElr0lEb-a I did get an Incra Miter Gauge which takes some setup as well. The stock miter gauge can be adjusted in the miter slot with a little painter's tape... this tightens up the side to side play a lot.
@bwillan
@bwillan Жыл бұрын
There aren't many cabinet shops that have 4 table saws, let alone home woodshops. That is quite the setup you have there. Many options for dedicated setups.
@lemagreengreen
@lemagreengreen Жыл бұрын
I have always liked Frank's giant table of table saws in the center of the workshop, looks awesome and must be nice to have so many options :)
@williamkerr3350
@williamkerr3350 Жыл бұрын
You're so sensible and methodical Frank ,a pleasure to watch .
@scotter_dotter
@scotter_dotter Жыл бұрын
Three table saws. Two Franks. Two videos in one. I think that equals a great woodworker/KZfaqr!❤
@dansvec5411
@dansvec5411 Жыл бұрын
I came across that exact saw when I ran a shop in Kansas City back in the 80's. It was complete, fence, two miter gauges with the bracket that tied them together, the extension table, and even the manual. Built like a milling machine. Oliver was still in business in Grand Rapids at the time. I got the spec sheets from them. It could handle an 18" blade and a 4" wide dado head! I shudder to even think about that. Good to see another one!
@Hvn1957
@Hvn1957 Жыл бұрын
I think that Oliver is nearly the size of the Tannewitz we have. I suspect it’s a little newer, but just as robust. Love the video, and all your maneuverings with the crane!
@fredzyda
@fredzyda Жыл бұрын
I look forward to the day when you finally complete the setup by getting a fourth table saw and replacing the last remaining plywood extension table!
@76844
@76844 Жыл бұрын
The disappearing 1/8" had me dying.
@ahodamahingan1698
@ahodamahingan1698 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, very relatable for me.
@harryworkshop4001
@harryworkshop4001 Жыл бұрын
Hey Frank, I enjoy your videos and thought I would drop you a note regarding table saws and on/off switches. On my table saw I installed a push button switch (momentary) that was easy to find on the front of the saw that pulled in a relay to actually start the saw. A second contact on the relay held it energized. To stop the saw I put a kick plate just above the floor that was attached to the front of the saw. A normally closed switch was attached behind the kick plate, so that when the kick plate was kicked, the switch opened and dropped out the motor relay. No need to try to find the on/off switch, just kick the kick plate. I kept the regular start/stop push button for a safety shut off when the saw was not in use. Just a thought, again, always enjoy your videos.
@frankmakes
@frankmakes Жыл бұрын
Yes, I was thinking of making a wood piece to go over the switch with a hole in it. I could push the on button through the hole and I can hit a entire wood piece with my knee or foot to turn it off.
@43painter
@43painter Жыл бұрын
Well done! During the whole video I was thinking: "What a strange name for a tablesaw : Paramedic. But at the end I could read the correct name Powermatic. ;-) I find it always such a relief watching your videos! Like John Cleese used to say : "And Now Something Totally Different! ". Thank you for sharing.
@kentrichardson9070
@kentrichardson9070 Жыл бұрын
With the advent of the Saw Stop table saw ,paramedic might be a great name.😊
@ericpohlman5131
@ericpohlman5131 Жыл бұрын
This was so fun to watch. Knowing the previous system pretty well from your videos, it was enjoyable to see how the new arrangement fit together. Or how you made it fit together. Just awesome.
@user-oo8gx2lo4d
@user-oo8gx2lo4d 9 ай бұрын
We are tiny, reflects the heart every vision and each piece is unwilling.
@johnthompson6656
@johnthompson6656 Жыл бұрын
I have to always remember to put on a bib to catch my drool when I see Franks workshop !!
@mlsargent51
@mlsargent51 Жыл бұрын
"Don't have to be perfect" famous words coming from a man who's eye for detail is fantastic! :)
@frankmakes
@frankmakes Жыл бұрын
The trick is knowing where to put the imperfection.
@NRCarrillo
@NRCarrillo Жыл бұрын
Beautiful works of art, as always
@williamchapman2607
@williamchapman2607 Жыл бұрын
I have a 1955 DeWalt that looks very much like yours. Had the motor apart for cleaning. Takes forever to slow down after cutting power - adding a circuit to help with that. Good video - thanks for posting.
@davidepperson2376
@davidepperson2376 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding sir, outstanding!
@harlanbarnhart4656
@harlanbarnhart4656 Жыл бұрын
Dedicated rip and cross cut saws, what a luxury.
@dacokc
@dacokc Жыл бұрын
Always loved the quality of your videos.
@agungwijaya7066
@agungwijaya7066 Жыл бұрын
Thanks you for your teaching videos!
@RACOONBACON
@RACOONBACON Жыл бұрын
You did a fine job with that arbor. 👍
@robthewaywardwoodworker9956
@robthewaywardwoodworker9956 Жыл бұрын
Best shop on KZfaq.
@warpo007
@warpo007 Жыл бұрын
as always, thanks for taking us on your journey, Frank(s)!
@AlanW
@AlanW Жыл бұрын
I love these videos with both Frank and Hank Howarth!
@HannahRoot55
@HannahRoot55 Жыл бұрын
Hi Alan 👋
@silent-science
@silent-science Жыл бұрын
I just love how you can see the editing getting better and better every video. Keep at it, Frank! Much love
@richardcary978
@richardcary978 Жыл бұрын
Very informative video of your project. Such an impressive shop and yet you always seem to find something that makes it even better.
@dwp1970
@dwp1970 10 ай бұрын
A scene shop I used to work at had an Oliver 270 from the mid 60's and what a pleasure it was to use. The cast base just soaked up vibrations.
@mitzibud6908
@mitzibud6908 Жыл бұрын
Another awesome video!! Thank you!!
@kenc2257
@kenc2257 Жыл бұрын
Neat project. Your new setup is definitely improved.
@andrewgalbreath2101
@andrewgalbreath2101 Жыл бұрын
Your shop is so lovely. It makes all your videos so pleasant to watch
@charlesmanuel1878
@charlesmanuel1878 Жыл бұрын
Excellent travail ! bravo !
@MichaelNatrin
@MichaelNatrin Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@shubus
@shubus Жыл бұрын
Oh, wow! The project screen is back! And TWO Franks! I love these vids. So much fun to watch.
@jlinkhart
@jlinkhart Жыл бұрын
What a great setup. Nice work as always Frank.
@HannahRoot55
@HannahRoot55 Жыл бұрын
LinkHart 👋
@karlchristoffer1275
@karlchristoffer1275 Жыл бұрын
So nice to see the two Franks work peacefully together, maybee third Frank behind camera today...?! Very nice job, Franks..! 🤗
@manciniak
@manciniak Жыл бұрын
I’m glad I’m not the only one playing games with disappearing/reappearing 1/8” height differences on heavy equipment
@sgsax
@sgsax Жыл бұрын
That Oliver saw is a beast. It absolutely dwarfs the Powermatic 66. Nice compact setup with the three saws now. Thanks for sharing!
@rickcimino743
@rickcimino743 Жыл бұрын
facinating!
@rickfazzini22
@rickfazzini22 Жыл бұрын
Must be a huge help having yourself around the shop, I knew it was just a matter of time before Frank figured out how to clone himself.
@1974HondaCB350F
@1974HondaCB350F 7 ай бұрын
I believe the grinding stone strategy works best when you: 1) make contact between the stone and the arbor flange, and then 2) raise and lower the arbor flange with the handwheel. This ensures that you aren't just grinding in the rough profile of your stone into your flange. The raising and lowering of the flange is what makes that interface nice and flat. But glad you got something to work out anyways!
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations Жыл бұрын
Pretty nice work, Frank! The shop is looking much better now! 😊 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@TheInquit
@TheInquit Жыл бұрын
Best wishes from Poland,👋
@vadimdubitskiy9854
@vadimdubitskiy9854 Жыл бұрын
Good job!
@cadcaetutorial2039
@cadcaetutorial2039 Жыл бұрын
This tuto is very well sir
@cadcaetutorial2039
@cadcaetutorial2039 Жыл бұрын
So nice sir
@jimsjacob
@jimsjacob Жыл бұрын
In some ways, I’m glad to see that I came up with the same solution a few years ago with the arbor. I chucked up a grinding stone in my router and it helped take out the high spots (dents and impacts) fairly well. But I didn’t come up with such a thorough jig that you made. My Powermatic is also from the 60’s and it’s seen a bit of work. For me, the real fix turned out to be the coulet under the nut securing the blade to the arbor. It was smaller diameter than the one that I’d machined with the grinding wheel and in effect, it was bowing the blade when tightened down. Once I’d had a part machined that matched the arbor, the blade was straight and true. Love your videos because I enjoy seeing how a real pro engineers things.
@billqqq
@billqqq Жыл бұрын
Great to have a helper sometimes!
@eddiemoreno2922
@eddiemoreno2922 Жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@dangoras9152
@dangoras9152 Жыл бұрын
Looks good brother..
@bigredc222
@bigredc222 Жыл бұрын
Very cool.
@odiesclips7621
@odiesclips7621 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking of watching a murder mystery on tv, but I couldn't tear myself away from this with all the special effects. 😮
@Brimannn1
@Brimannn1 Жыл бұрын
Love your editing skills
@propertystuff7221
@propertystuff7221 Жыл бұрын
Wow can I SO relate. 1/8" too low. Oops now 1/8" too high somehow. Aaand 1/8" too low again. AAAAA!
@kennethdrovdal1082
@kennethdrovdal1082 Жыл бұрын
Three integrated table saws, novel. I really enjoyed seeing the old Dewalt cut-off saw. It's been around a long time and was the workhouse in our shop back in the late 50's-60's. Yep---I'm an 'ol-timer
@richpeggyfranks490
@richpeggyfranks490 Жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoyed watching your thought-process and ingenuity. I have used the "raise one side of the saw (jointer, planer, etc.)" and attempt to kick a pad under the base, hoping for the best. One day when it wasn't working out too well, after a 3rd cup of coffee, I turned 2 parallel clamps heads around to make parallel spreaders. With a 1300 pound clamping spec, I figured they should be strong enough to lift one side of the saw. It worked great. With 2 "spreaders", one near each corner, they easily lifted the saw. Also, it was easy to fine tune the height. Good luck, stay safe. Thx.
@TR-rz1xt
@TR-rz1xt Жыл бұрын
It's very satisfying to reorganise to better suit needs! Great video too, enjoyed it hugely thank you... your twin's looking well ;)
@frankmakes
@frankmakes Жыл бұрын
Thank you! 😊
@williamellis8993
@williamellis8993 Жыл бұрын
Worked out great, Frank. Getting the best shop layout is one of the hardest things and never ending. Bill
@peterharkness3547
@peterharkness3547 Жыл бұрын
All this work. Must be a big project coming up. Hopefully !!!!
@sluchajdamian
@sluchajdamian Жыл бұрын
You can make something like levers or biger red and black buttons to switch off and on Oliver table saw. Now this don't looks safe. Great workshop and video.
@uniqko
@uniqko Жыл бұрын
You are so amazing
@barberspaddockwoodworking
@barberspaddockwoodworking Жыл бұрын
This reminded me of Dwight from the Office making his megadesk. 'Getting more megasaw'.
@theodoranorton4779
@theodoranorton4779 Жыл бұрын
I was expecting to hear that you checked the planer and found the cut depth needed recalibration after the recent head change, but how banal! Glad to see a nice solid old machine back in active service.
@glencrandall7051
@glencrandall7051 Жыл бұрын
I'm having trouble setting up one cabinet saw in my shop. I cannot imagine trying to set up three.🙂🙂
@Nashvillain10SE
@Nashvillain10SE Жыл бұрын
Just yesterday, I checked to see if Frank posted a new video in case I missed a notification. 😀👍
@richardlevesque1632
@richardlevesque1632 Жыл бұрын
Belle ingéniosité bravo 😊
@mcarter3320
@mcarter3320 Жыл бұрын
Love the video’s. I could not remember if that was a saw you made a video picking it up years ago. Gives me something to watch while recovering from spine fusion
@frankmakes
@frankmakes Жыл бұрын
I don't think I've ever made a video about that saw. I made one about picking up my planer.
@SuperGrover
@SuperGrover Жыл бұрын
If you raise whatever your lifting above the legs of the crane or engine hoist or whatever, you can the place some beams across the legs and lower the item onto the beams. That way your crane becomes a trolley, the item can't drop and doesn't swing around as you're moving. Once you get close, lift, take the beams out and off you go. Much easier and safer that way...
@frankmakes
@frankmakes Жыл бұрын
I hadn't thought about that. Basically making the crane into a cart. I like it
@SuperGrover
@SuperGrover Жыл бұрын
@@frankmakes otherwise you're just swinging a pendulum. That hasn't been a thing since the Renaissance 😄
@josephbert1
@josephbert1 Жыл бұрын
Frank, you should do audio books. Your voice is the butter on the biscuit. Good stuff.
@frankmakes
@frankmakes Жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@kentrichardson9070
@kentrichardson9070 Жыл бұрын
I like your angle cutting mitre box for the sawsall trick. We tune in because you’re a leader not a follower. Cheers
@diytechspirit914
@diytechspirit914 Жыл бұрын
This guy reminds me on a sloth in every way. The way he talks, moves like everything.I mean no dissrespect to him he is an excelent creator that is why i watch his videos but everytime i see his video the sloth comes on my mind.
@tjacksonwoodworker3726
@tjacksonwoodworker3726 Жыл бұрын
3 Legendary saws. I recently was able to add a 1983 Unisaw into the shop as a complement to my SawStop. I have actually being using the Unisaw more frequently. Go figure.
@frankmakes
@frankmakes Жыл бұрын
Yeah I know how that goes. I got the 66 new and it was nice. Then a few years later I got the old used 72 and I find I use that more than the 66.
@BLenz-114
@BLenz-114 Жыл бұрын
Ahh the joys of working alone. 😂😂 These little things that would take one fifth the time with one other person.
@bronzekid1
@bronzekid1 Жыл бұрын
Definitely need an in depth video about the Rip-it
@LaxMan2k
@LaxMan2k Жыл бұрын
Frank, its ok to say it. We all know this move was to be able to play with the new fancy electronic fence xD
@dpmeyer4867
@dpmeyer4867 Жыл бұрын
thanks
@MarcosElMalo2
@MarcosElMalo2 Жыл бұрын
Any clown can juggle chainsaws, but juggling table saws is some cirque-saw du soleil level shit.
@LariFariYoutube
@LariFariYoutube Жыл бұрын
Hi, Frank.. I always seeing you fighting with your radial arm saw... Here is one suggestion. Make the pully from the counterweight rope bigger.. The bigger, the better. This is a lesson which i learned on my Homemade panel saw build. Greets from Germany.
@idontthinkso666
@idontthinkso666 Жыл бұрын
He's not struggling, at least, not in the way you think. And he has the counterweight you describe. I recall Frank commenting in another video that he didn't bother with installing negative-rake blades on his radial arm saws (look it up). Without that, and by using a saw blade built for a conventional table saw (positive rake) you are fighting the radial arm saw's natural inclination to grab and accelerate through the wood--very unsafe. Essentially, the difference between have the saw above the workpiece (radial arm saw) and below the workpiece (table saw). So Frank compensates by pushing the saw as it pulls through the cut, resulting in that awkward cutting behavior. I had to do the same thing until I switched to negative-rake blades on my radial arm saw. They are expensive and can't be used on a table saw, so many radial arm saw owners don't bother.
@ytdeagle
@ytdeagle Жыл бұрын
To grind my arbor flange I did the same thing except I used a lollipop type ball stone in the router. With the router and saw running and arbor perpendicual with the table top crank the blade down just bellow the flange and bump the router over to just barely touch the stone to the grinder. Now with both router and saw running slowly crank the blade arbor up and down then bump the router over just a little bit at time and keep cranking the arbor up and down until there are no more sparks. After several passes the arbor will run true. Note: make sure the arbor bearings are good before doing this or results will be bad.
@ericpohlman5131
@ericpohlman5131 Жыл бұрын
Is the Arbor the Plainer?
@idontthinkso666
@idontthinkso666 Жыл бұрын
@@ericpohlman5131 The Arbor works with the Plainer to defeat the Jointer in the battle with the Lathe Master, unless the Plainer uses Magic to fool him into ...
@JohnBare747
@JohnBare747 Жыл бұрын
I never get tired of that squeaky clamp mozying across the screen in the outro I dearly hope it does not have a run-in with some WD-40 and loose it's squeeky charm.
@marcohelm2265
@marcohelm2265 Жыл бұрын
Hi Frank herzlichen Glückwunsch zu deiner neuen säge. Ich glaube es ist an der Zeit das du dir eine neue Werkstatt bauen solltest, ehrlich" deine Werkstatt ist zu klein" seit 8 Jahren verfolge ich deinen Kanal, du bist der beste. Liebe Grüße aus Deutschland
@MadHatter764
@MadHatter764 Жыл бұрын
You now need remote controlled blast gates so the dust collection is directed as needed. I saw manual blast gates but those must be quite a pain to reach.
@kwaaaa
@kwaaaa Жыл бұрын
11:05 From personal experience, I like to call that Schrodinger's tape measure. Whether the piece was cut to the correct or incorrect length is only determined after I've cut it.
@idontthinkso666
@idontthinkso666 Жыл бұрын
When I was in the Navy working with millwrights, they only shimmed with metal. It was non-compressible and performed better than wood or plastic or other softer materials.
@Operngeist1
@Operngeist1 Жыл бұрын
How many table saws do you need? Frank: Yes! Joking aside, awesome video! I'm especially in love with the crane!
@bucyrus5000
@bucyrus5000 Жыл бұрын
Frank, maybe some modifications can be made to your 'crane'. Would make a good video. If you make a swing arm for the hoist so you can manipulate loads inside it support footprint, you'll get more utility out of it.
@andrewslater6846
@andrewslater6846 Жыл бұрын
8:56 I appreciate this shot
@daviddemoise3526
@daviddemoise3526 Жыл бұрын
Nice work! You should look into a Burke bar, you’d be able to walk that saw right over with one and then easily change out your shims without hurting yourself.
@idontthinkso666
@idontthinkso666 Жыл бұрын
That would be handy, but $200+ ain't cheap. But you'd likely find plenty of uses for it.
@prototype3a
@prototype3a Жыл бұрын
I want to see more of the mechanical structure of the Rip-It. On my #72, a standard Biesemeyer fence is not stiff enough and I think we can all agree that it is a pretty stout design.
@ADBBuild
@ADBBuild Жыл бұрын
Have you seen Jer Schmidt's fence design? It's one of the best IMO. He is on KZfaq.
@prototype3a
@prototype3a Жыл бұрын
@@ADBBuild I have and it is certainly interesting. His use of a "half nut" and lead screw is pretty clever for a tablesaw fence. I will likely build something similar for my #72 sooner or later.
@markdesolate
@markdesolate Жыл бұрын
Three table saws is every woodworkers dream. Great video,fun to watch (as usual). Thank you Frank!
@MonkeyButlerLabs
@MonkeyButlerLabs Жыл бұрын
Arbor flange is the term you're looking for.
@frankmakes
@frankmakes Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@michaelsmith-ec7ul
@michaelsmith-ec7ul Жыл бұрын
great video , you probably already know bends ,elbows and flex pipe put a drag on the dust collection system, in other words a loss of suction .I notice behind the table saws in the end of the video. I have an Oneida system very good.
@TheBearDenPhotography
@TheBearDenPhotography Жыл бұрын
Good to see your identical twin brother helping out. Trouble Is, it's hard to discern who is who of the two...
@baercy
@baercy Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video about the in-floor dust collection
@MRrwmac
@MRrwmac Жыл бұрын
Frank, I’m sure it so nice to have your tablesaw, excuse me two tablesaws, oh sorry three tablesaws, (phewww) working in perfect harmony with each other. You might just sit up on top of them in the center for your zen meditation ….haha>
@timparsons3565
@timparsons3565 Жыл бұрын
Duuuuuuude, your masking and compositing game just took a big leap forward. with that intro. I'm an editor and VFX artist, and I think it looked great!
@465maltbie
@465maltbie Жыл бұрын
Amazing those saws dont have leveling feet in the corners? Thanks for sharing. Charles
@JoshuaRes
@JoshuaRes Жыл бұрын
So cool! We had a huge Oliver jointer at school and I loved that machine. Wonder if RIT still has it…
@frankmakes
@frankmakes Жыл бұрын
I want one of those.
@nedimbuyukafsar6434
@nedimbuyukafsar6434 Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@truthymchurtsalot7188
@truthymchurtsalot7188 Жыл бұрын
Howling at the disappearing and reappearing 1/8”!
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