Free Your Media: How to Build a Home Media Server

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6 жыл бұрын

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@Brutaltronics
@Brutaltronics 6 жыл бұрын
3:33 Ryan is holding a lvl1 mug 3:36 Ryan is holding the glass with m&ms You thought we would not notice but we did!
@sudd3660
@sudd3660 6 жыл бұрын
i did not notice, but i did notice you noticing so i here i am noticing shit.
@-DeScruff
@-DeScruff 6 жыл бұрын
Dang those L1 Mugs are selling out so fast, they are literally being taken out of Ryan's hands
@blastermaster5009
@blastermaster5009 6 жыл бұрын
That's hilarious. Sometimes subtle comedy is the best comedy.
@nomsky4719
@nomsky4719 6 жыл бұрын
these are not m&ms, they are filled with martini
@InvadersDie
@InvadersDie 6 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j7ObpsWKu7DcZZs.html
@techlifts7873
@techlifts7873 6 жыл бұрын
A home server really is a gateway drug. It makes you crave terabytes that you don't need.
@Klokopf52
@Klokopf52 5 жыл бұрын
But then you end up needing it anyway... I stated with a 2 bay QNAP Nas, then a 4-Bay, now i have an i3-6300 with 16 GB of ECC memory and a 10 GBit Network... Raw storage are 4x6TB and 3x8TB and growing...
@bmxriderforlife1234
@bmxriderforlife1234 5 жыл бұрын
hence why im planning on building my workstation. getting a second workstation built on used parts. then just going all out on a home server. probably on a threadripper running freenas. lots of ecc probs 16gb dimms. set up a ridiculous ssd layer and a really nice nvme based zil device. then some good nas drives. probably gonna figure what my max storage needs would be and then use that as a 3rd of the total im actually going to start with. probably a used fiber card to a cheap 10gbe switch have that go into a gigabit switch. use the ssd set up for 10gbe transfers and then have it basically work like a giant cache and move files that dont need that fastest access to the spinning rust. keep important files on the ssd's but with mostly free room. zil device keeps data integrity up and done right keeps performance nice and high. probably also set up a redundant zil device and maybe a second smaller ssd layer. use the compression features built in and the higher core count budget cpus thanks to ryzen to get more data through faster and then decompress it. then once i upgrade to a newer brand new system ill shuffle the used system into server duties. probably use an atom set up for a DIY crazy ass router. then used xeons or used epyc or threadripper parts for like 2 more boxes and done. one i can use to run different private servers like team speak and game servers. the other as a sandbox. and the oldest system besides the nas would be either used as a backup or a random whatever system. then just slowly upgrade from there. few more 10gbe nics. few more fiber cards. increase max speeds. eventually increase the nas' specs. the idea is basically eventually when i find a house i want to buy and keep, just upgrade the wiring and have every room have a 10gbe port and probably multiple. plus gigabit plus phone line combo plugs. just need a little adapter for phone cables or a specific phone/cable with one end on one side and the other on the opposite side. lable everything nicely. set up a proper patch panel. then have certain things segregated to its own router. eventually itd be a single fiber based switch. dual 10gbe (one with some gigabit ports other solid 10gbe except for a fiber uplink) a single gigabit switch. maybe a fiber one only gonna need two switches to start though. but basically whenever i decide to have a lan party with friends if someone doesnt have a game itll be mad fast to download it. workflow should be quick. should be able to have machines work fast enough in the background that i can set one up go get another one or two set up and be able to have them finish parts of stuff quick more efficiently using vms and also have enough cores for the things thatll require it. should also handle the camera system easily on one of the side machines. then just have it feed into the nas every so often and then go over the drives in that machine. basically vms galore, should handle plex streams well. should handle cad well. should handle video editing well. and let me multi task. hardcore. also since ill be using workstation and server stuff should be stable so when i get some of the tools going they dont fuck up.
@ewenchan1239
@ewenchan1239 5 жыл бұрын
@@Klokopf52 I started with an AMD Opteron server and 16x500 GB (8 TB raw). Now I'm upto close to 100 TB across four NAS appliances. I actually completely powered down my servers because why run it at like 300-ish Watts when I can run the same with ~90 W with an appliance. The only downside with the NASes that I got is that only two of them have PCIe expansion slots, but they're not big enough to be able to accept a PCIe x16 4x EDR IB card. Bummer. (NOT that the drives can even access/process the data at the line/link speed anyways...)
@ScrewYoutubeAndYourAutoNames
@ScrewYoutubeAndYourAutoNames 5 жыл бұрын
@@Klokopf52 Started with 1 HDD in my computer. Then 2. Then 3. Then 4 in external drives. And now I'm running an i3 with 32GB and 10x3TB drives. I am now making plans to build a new one with an i5, at least 64GB ram, and 10x4TB. It's amazing how fast you chew through storage when you got so much storage
@mikkelbreiler3846
@mikkelbreiler3846 4 жыл бұрын
@@Klokopf52 I bought a server case with 2x5 3.5 bays then I added an Icy-Box module for another 5 bays, then I bougt a 24 bay case. Now my 1TB and 2TB drives are failing so I bought 4x14TB drives and copied my data to that. Already looking into migrating my 4x5TB and 8x3TB raids to those and adding a 5th 14TB drive .... My basement is full of DVDs cases in boxes and I have a few bags filled DVD cover inserts and several DVD disc folders with 208 discs in each. I buy the DVD s used for like $0.25 - $0.75. Last round I got Scrubs season 1-6 and 8. Haven't had the time to move them over to the server but I am not pushing the issue until I obtain season 7 too. I am also adding videos off KZfaq - WiFi is no longer offered free on the trains here in Denmark so I am looking into copying high quality videos onto the laptop or a better experience. Sometimes I swear I feel like riding home again on the bus and back to work again, when I am in the middle of an episode or YT vid.
@wil7vin
@wil7vin 6 жыл бұрын
I always talk to girls about servers while holding a glass of smarties/skittles cause I'm sophisticated. Sadly most times they run away.
@DoctorWho14615
@DoctorWho14615 6 жыл бұрын
At least you get that far... they just run away from me.
@tomtalk24
@tomtalk24 6 жыл бұрын
Ryan has his ways. Made me lol, love that guy!
@jhvhest
@jhvhest 4 жыл бұрын
@@PRiMETECHAU that sounds harsh. Maybe they are just not worth your attention.
@GobblesPlays
@GobblesPlays 5 жыл бұрын
i just want to say the comedy in this video is top notch and deserves more credit. the scene where Krista is slowly bringing the server up the stairs is hilarious.
@MiesvanderLippe
@MiesvanderLippe 6 жыл бұрын
That shot on the stairs probably took so many tries but it was hilarious.
@AfonsoSousa31
@AfonsoSousa31 6 жыл бұрын
I was like: what is that noise in the background? Maybe some construction going on? ooh.. I see 😂
@alidan
@alidan 6 жыл бұрын
If I had to do that, I would record the sound for one stair, or possibly make them do it up to the near top, stop, do the bit with a timer you could see, so you know when sound cuts out and you are going for real, I would also probably 2 camera this so you can take the best takes/get the timing perfect to save time... because lets be honest, a poker face while you watch someone bring a server like that up is not something you can to till its no longer funny to you, doing it for real live one take no editing magic would be hell.
@Blix11
@Blix11 6 жыл бұрын
Equality! And yea, that was hilarious. xD
@LokianGOP
@LokianGOP 6 жыл бұрын
JFC I was laughing so much and so loud I nearly woke the whole house up xD
@reedmeister
@reedmeister 6 жыл бұрын
PLEASE PLEASE keep going on this subject. I love you guys so much
@lightfire33
@lightfire33 6 жыл бұрын
"getting server from the basement" oh yea, there's nothing like hauling 2x 3u rack servers with 47 HDD in it, up a narrow staircase xD
@johncnorris
@johncnorris 6 жыл бұрын
I hate when I go to legally rip some media and accidentally drop a torrent file on my seedbox. It makes me sad for days.
@andljoy
@andljoy 5 жыл бұрын
I know ! makes me sad too but i can handle it. I justify it to myself by saying , if i could obtain it legally for a fair price and not have to fork over like 50 quid a season for the box set i would feel bad , if not fuck em they should wake up and smell the modern age. Or if the original artist is dead, not hurting anyone but some publisher asshole that has no reason to exist in the modern age who prob did not even invest in the project, just "obtained" the rights....
@billyhatcher643
@billyhatcher643 5 жыл бұрын
i can just pay for bluray or dvd copying software and make it as a backup
@dustinsearle4672
@dustinsearle4672 6 жыл бұрын
best computer based youtube channel hands down.
@EposVox
@EposVox 6 жыл бұрын
Ayyy the House thing was why I said I was making these videos! lol
@sparkyenergia
@sparkyenergia 6 жыл бұрын
For anyone following along at home. This would work and almost certainly be fine. However, some raid controllers can present the disks to the system normally while others have to go through what was shown here by creating individual raid 0 volumes per drive. If you have to go the create individual volumes route then things wont be perfect but they will work. You want a controller that can present the disks normally (ie the controller is a HBA). The down sides to the raid 0 version is you may not be able to turn off any 'intelligent' operation that the raid card wants to do. So you might have unexpected performance for certain workloads (not really a concern for a media server) and you may not be able to access smart data (that's a little concerning). Also ZFS wont have full transparent access to the disks which is how zfs was built to operate. There should not be a raid controller between OS and disks.
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 6 жыл бұрын
yeah, i was a little worried about that too. is the layout of this rackmount so eclectic that they couldn't run some sata cables to bypass the raid? (i suspect the real reason is that this server isn't likely to get actual use, they already had the servers they wanted beforehand.)
@RedSoul001
@RedSoul001 5 жыл бұрын
Ah yes.. just want to watch some old movies and what not. What's that? You have a dual Zeon setup with 72GB of ram... perfect that will just meet my hardware requirements... As a plus now there is no need to worry about the heat in the winter.
@Ozzianman
@Ozzianman 3 жыл бұрын
*laughs in cheap Norwegian electricity*
@tritech
@tritech 6 жыл бұрын
Step 1: have a server
@DzheiSilis
@DzheiSilis 6 жыл бұрын
tritech go buy a junk PC for $200
@rolandtroger6014
@rolandtroger6014 6 жыл бұрын
Step 2: Profit
@MrCodgedodger
@MrCodgedodger 6 жыл бұрын
step 2 go to baconfeet.com
@MrSquishles
@MrSquishles 6 жыл бұрын
you can probably get that xeon off ebay for 200$
@EvadingFate
@EvadingFate 6 жыл бұрын
Lugging the server up the stairs was hilarious! Well done video. Please PLEASE make more content like this.
@Henk14789
@Henk14789 6 жыл бұрын
That comedic introduction actually had me watching how easy it is to set up a media server. Thanks! Now to get away from my PC once in a while to actually create a need for such a server.
@BorisFett
@BorisFett 6 жыл бұрын
I like how you guys filmed this. I remember pulling those old HPs out of our datacenter years ago. Nice little work horses.
@frankies.4500
@frankies.4500 5 жыл бұрын
I was dying when you guys were deadpan chatting while she struggled up the stairs with the device. XD
@coolhands9927
@coolhands9927 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video. My first media server was an old Dell server hooked up to an old Equallogic SAN. The server was not super loud but the Equallogic only had one fan speed. I'm done with most server level hardware on my home server. I took the RAID controller out of the server and put it in my old AMD 8320 gaming rig. I replaced the GPU with a $30 passively cooled model. Right now it has 9 500GB laptop hard drives 8 for media storage and 1 for the OS. I got the hard drives for free from work. Just said all that to say you don't need an actual server to do this. It can be done with regular desktop hardware. With desktop hardware my idle power draw is around 40-50W.
@jimmahT
@jimmahT 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder why Krista was so against going to the basement. Is it possible something worse than the Boiler Snake exists down there?
@TheBibliofilus
@TheBibliofilus 6 жыл бұрын
Look at the old office tour video, I don't think Wendell cleans down there a lot..
@FinneousPJ1
@FinneousPJ1 4 жыл бұрын
Trouser snake
@rogerhalt3991
@rogerhalt3991 6 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks for making this walkthrough! I am currently looking into building one myself so this will definitely help soon!
@austingonzalez1148
@austingonzalez1148 6 жыл бұрын
I'm 100% excited about this series
@LJM2stepspain
@LJM2stepspain 6 жыл бұрын
This video is amazing. I've been subbed since day 1 and this is my favorite thing so far.
@ParadoxdesignsOrg
@ParadoxdesignsOrg 6 жыл бұрын
I've had a Dell server sitting around for awhile I've been meaning to do this to, Thanks for the tips!
@leeroyhuawei51
@leeroyhuawei51 4 жыл бұрын
I am sooo smart, I am going to stop paying $15 per month for a media service and now I'm going to host it myself and pay $25 per month in electricity to do so. Yay! Thank goodness modern day (Q2 2020) hardware is so much more power efficient.
@mexicanmanjohn
@mexicanmanjohn 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video. I plan on setting up a media server soon
@ThirdPer3on
@ThirdPer3on 6 жыл бұрын
NIce, been using FreeNas for a while. Started knowing NOTHING... got 5 random 160gb disks. Put random stuff on em. Randomly unplugged them. (tried to break stuff). uninstalled and reinstalled Freenas on a new PC, connected the same drives. Added the ZFS disks... Boom all data still there. SOLD. Never looked back..... Only issue now is, some updates sometimes dont work for me, so i just leave it at version 9. Thanks for doing the video, but I think a dumpster dive of an old pentium or other standard RANDOM hacked together hardware would have better shown the awesomeness of building a nas. You guys are awesome, keep up the good works.
@BrianThomas
@BrianThomas 4 жыл бұрын
I ran one of these blade servers in my house. It was really impractical IMO TBH. It was extremely loud and wicked expensive to run with the little use that it received. Better off going with a low powered Desktop CPU with a very quiet blower. Or like they mentioned a few single board computers. Each with dedicated purpose. One for a NAS, one for streaming Media, and so on. Don't forget there are other SBC aside from the Raspberry pi that you can pick from, and are much more powerful. Like the Odroid XU4, or the Rock64 Pro, or the lattepanda.
@NullKey
@NullKey 6 жыл бұрын
loving the format
@WigglyWings
@WigglyWings 3 жыл бұрын
2:51 God he is such a teddy bear, that I wanna hug whenever I feel sad or happy. He is like an upgraded form of Luke from LTT (current bearded form).
@Bytemybits
@Bytemybits 6 жыл бұрын
hell yeah :) #Plex4Lif3
@TheJustinist
@TheJustinist 6 жыл бұрын
Oh god....its Jason..EVERYONE RUN
@MiChAeLoKGB
@MiChAeLoKGB 6 жыл бұрын
EMBY > PLEX ;)
@TheJustinist
@TheJustinist 6 жыл бұрын
different strokes for different folks, Emby's UI is garbage in my opinion
@CBersPond
@CBersPond 6 жыл бұрын
Emby over Plex any day 😂
@Finns-Projects
@Finns-Projects 6 жыл бұрын
Ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunn . Crazy person is here.
@R34L157
@R34L157 4 жыл бұрын
When a man with a martini glass full of MnM's tells you to go to the basement, you're goin' to the basement
@kyjo72682
@kyjo72682 3 жыл бұрын
lol, I haven't even noticed the mnm's
@sethwilliamson
@sethwilliamson 5 жыл бұрын
As someone who has gone through the pain of losing everything on their media server, I now consider it necessary to consider the 3-2-1 backup rule or some variation when planning a home server too. Component failure, software bug, electrical short/surge, lightning, fire, flood, earthquake, hurricane, tornado, burglary, hacking... you name it. (I'll leave it to your imagination as to which of those ones bit me.) A lot of things can happen that all result in the contents of your media server being gone. Decide how disposable/irreplaceable the contents of your media server are and plan accordingly. Some options... * F it. If I lose it, I lose it. * FreeNAS box or similar as a backup target. It'll need more storage space than the media server. Ideally physically isolated in another room, as far as practically possible. A separate electrical circuit from the primary server is good too. Combine with off-site storage like B2. This is the most robust and convenient solution and most closely matches enterprise best practice. * A pair of cloud backup accounts with two different providers that are using data centers located in different parts of the world. Saves some up-front cost, but more expensive over time. Long recovery times, although some will send your files via courier. * Original source DVD/BluRay/CD/etc in a binder at a relative's house or an off-site storage unit. You'll have to re-rip everything but if you already have the source media and already have a place to store them, it comes at no cost. It is less convenient if you're obtaining new media regularly. Takes more active management. This doesn't give you full 3-2-1 backups, but it might be good enough. * HDD toaster or internal hot-swap bay, internal HDDs as media, and HDD storage cases. You can manually copy everything to an HDD, put it in a storage case, and take it to a relative's house or storage unit. This works out to be _far_ cheaper than optical media as back-up. If you're sourcing your media digitally, this is a better option than burning to DVD/BluRay. You can make two copies to two separate HDDs and store one here at home and the other copy off-site. It requires work, especially to maintain the off-site copy, but it is fairly cheap. Bit rot once killed some irreplaceable family home video of the kids when they were young. You can imagine how that conversation went with the wife. :-| If I'm making archives now for cold storage, I like to use PAR2 and give it at least 10% parity, and make two different copies of the archive. On each HDD is an ISO with the portable Linux I used with the exact version of PAR2 and other utilities so I can be sure that even many years down the road that the files are readable.
@CJonestheSteam72
@CJonestheSteam72 Жыл бұрын
Another one is backblaze, yes it's a monthly cost and it will take ages to upload your files initially but for a off-site backup it's great
@craigcooper1967
@craigcooper1967 6 жыл бұрын
I found 4x3TB WD RED NAS drives in a faulty ReadyNAS for $20, so threw them in an old server size case, with FreeNAS 9 on a GA-EP45-DS3L with 8GB DDR2 and it is now my (silent) media server. I had to remove the case fan for near silent operation, but it was well worth it.
@avglebowski
@avglebowski 6 жыл бұрын
you guys where holding your laugh back so much I was smiling because of it lol
@tutosch
@tutosch 6 жыл бұрын
I always wanted to build my own media server, thanks for the build!
@YanDoroshenko
@YanDoroshenko 6 жыл бұрын
Those completely natural and in no way set up dialogs deserve at least three oscars.
@RichardPlucker
@RichardPlucker 6 жыл бұрын
I love your content and you do a really great job putting these videos together (I'm a Patreon supporter) but you should consider EQing your mics. It would really make a big difference in audio quality. Take about 4db out of 300hz and add 4db in the 2.5-5k hz range. Just some constructive criticism :)
@jcnash02
@jcnash02 5 жыл бұрын
TheAlienArchive hmm, I’m listening to it, and it sounds fine. Probably your headphones.
@JustifyTheseHeathens
@JustifyTheseHeathens 3 жыл бұрын
I love legally downloading terabytes of media from the web. This Plex thing sounds right up my alley
@STOKensan
@STOKensan 6 жыл бұрын
Loved the sketch. Keep it up!
@AcidbrainwashEffect
@AcidbrainwashEffect 6 жыл бұрын
This should be titled "2 Ogre's and an elf discuss Raspberry Pie"
@GMV223
@GMV223 6 жыл бұрын
2 ogres and a witch*
@IKvASS
@IKvASS 6 жыл бұрын
Who cares? Morrigan was my fiance in Dragon Age.
@broquestwarsneeder7617
@broquestwarsneeder7617 6 жыл бұрын
and the Witch of Izalith is my waifu!
@UmpalumpaofDeath
@UmpalumpaofDeath 6 жыл бұрын
Wes Wesern im jealous ,she hot!
@UmpalumpaofDeath
@UmpalumpaofDeath 6 жыл бұрын
There is pie? I prefer a peach cobbler ,but strawberries' fine
@ChadWilliamson
@ChadWilliamson 6 жыл бұрын
YES!!! My wife was just telling me the other day that we need to just create our own media server. Time to get to work.
@notsofree_willy
@notsofree_willy 6 жыл бұрын
4:15 gave me this old house flashbacks
@richardlynch329
@richardlynch329 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, thanks you I've been interested in a home media server. Please build on it in the future.
@Phoenix_SW20
@Phoenix_SW20 6 жыл бұрын
I find the timing of this video quite interesting. I've been thinking of setting up a super basic NAS and just recently set up Open Media Vault on my Raspberry Pi 3. I'm using it simply as a file server with a couple external hard drives on it. Certainly not the best solution, but for my needs it works well enough.
@joco179
@joco179 6 жыл бұрын
this is the video that i've been waiting for
@MrPrimwhoozle
@MrPrimwhoozle 6 жыл бұрын
Oscar-worthy performances + solid tutorial. Very cool. Very cool.
@MattMorgan270
@MattMorgan270 6 жыл бұрын
I love this. Make it the first of a home server series. Please :)
@JasonBlasi
@JasonBlasi 6 жыл бұрын
Love to see you guys look at running Emby. I use it in my home server and love it
@neo85271
@neo85271 6 жыл бұрын
Plex is a little more polished IMO, but it also has a lot more stuffed behind that paywall. Emby is good enough for me.
@StarsMarsRadio
@StarsMarsRadio 4 жыл бұрын
This channel is a hidden gem.
@toshib_htr1000
@toshib_htr1000 6 жыл бұрын
For file servers and media serving, a desktop will work reasonably well. I'm currently running an i3-2120 with 8 GiB of RAM and that's working fine, with virtualization (3 different VMs up at anytime).
@babuganoosh2087
@babuganoosh2087 6 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. More please.
@Justin-nx5ou
@Justin-nx5ou 6 жыл бұрын
love your guys content!!!!! keep it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@randallsmith2521
@randallsmith2521 6 жыл бұрын
I so love used server stuff from folks who know used servers!
@smoogles
@smoogles 6 жыл бұрын
I don't want a media server but I couldn't stop watching.
@Crushertalos
@Crushertalos 5 жыл бұрын
This is a great vid. Thanks so much!!
@kchimusaru
@kchimusaru 5 жыл бұрын
Gosh you guys are so funny. Letting her bring that up all the way from the basement while chit-chatting. Lol
@toymachine4253
@toymachine4253 6 жыл бұрын
Like that entryway to the basement, the white railing and green walls remind me of the PBS shows I watched as a kid. Kind of fits with the content.
@teetertech
@teetertech 6 жыл бұрын
Y'all gotta do more videos like this got me geekin.
@gerff01
@gerff01 6 жыл бұрын
I am still using an old Pentium D "Media Center" for that...I can rip a DVD on that machine faster than I can on my new ones.
@AAYMF
@AAYMF 6 жыл бұрын
Good evening/morning, This comment might seem depressing, but please keep reading. Bcause the subject didn't seem interesting to me, I've only clicked this video just to keep running on the side, and maybe put an emoji comment to support this channel. But the intro although longer than what I've gotten used to on KZfaq, was very interesting for some reason...So I kept watching. And all of a sudden I hear that banging Kreestuh is making 😂 Great work. Educational and entertaining. Keep it up 👍♥️
@davilago2559
@davilago2559 4 жыл бұрын
That's gold content, congrats, guys
@CaedenV
@CaedenV 6 жыл бұрын
Been running my own home server for about 3 years now, and I have to say... it isn't for everyone. I use to be a film student waaaay back in the day, and at the time had a collection of ~400 DVDs and ~50 blurays. But with Netflix purging more and more movies, and with fewer and fewer devices in my home having optical media readers, I decided to take the plunge and build a home server. At any rate, a few things I have run into; 1) Spend a little money on ripping software. I picked up DVDFab on a decent sale (its always on sale... but some sales are better than others). The first hundred movies I tried ripping through Handbrake... and it works... but quality was inconsistent. DVDFab made things much quicker and simpler, and when I eventually got a newer GPU it took BluRay rips down from 10-14 hours per disc, down to about 1 hour... my power bill dropped enough to justify the purchase of my mid-range GPU lol. 2) Buy good quality SATA cables. I convinced a friend of mine to do this with me, and we both had weird inconsistent issues with checksum errors that made us think that our HDDs were dying. Turned out to be that our 10 year old SATA cables that had been in and out of several machines over the years were developing issues. Bought some nice thick new locking cables and all of those problems went away. 3) HDDs can be expensive. Especially new drives that are made to be on 24/7 (Like WD Red). To get around this we have had very good luck getting refurbished enterprise drives. They are made to be on 24/7, and typically cost $50-60 for a 3TB drive, where a new high-end consumer drive costs nearly twice as much. To be sure, used drives are a little bit scary... but that is why you have redundancy. We use RAIDZ2 (essentially RAID6) where 2 drives can be lost without issue. I have had a few drives come in DOA, but have yet to loose one of the refurb enterprise drives yet. Between my friend and I we have bought 10 drives about a year ago, and 2 were DOA and replaced with no questions asked. Everything else has been smooth sailing. 4) Get lots of RAM! FreeNAS/ZFS drinks RAM like you wouldnt believe! And while it will continue to work with less ram, you will experience slowdowns and hiccups. General rule of thumb is a minimum of 4GB of RAM, plus 1GB for every TB of usable storage (ie, don't need extra ram for redundant disk space). So I have 10 3TB HDDs in my system for a total of ~20TB of usable space (to calculate: 8drives*3TB*80%after formatting), and 24GB of RAM. 8-16GB of RAM is plenty for most people starting out... but just know that RAM needs will balloon as you add more storage. 5) Use file permissions!!!! And not file permissions used on your home network! I worked in a few school districts a year ago when all of the crypto viruses were hitting hard and heavy, and I can't tell you how many got hit hard simply because everyone had read and write permissions on the network storage!!!! The way I have it set is that everyone has read access to the whole ZFS pool. We can all watch movies and listen to music to our hearts content. But write access is relegated to 1 user acct which has a unique name and password. This way my kids can accidentally delete things, and if we catch a nasty virus we dont loose everything. If my wife or kiddos want to add things to the server, I have a folder/share with full open access, and they let me know they put it there, and then I put it where it belongs after that. 6) A home server does not count as a backup! Now, I am not about to back up 14+TB of movies and TV shows that I have ripped, because that would essentially requite building a 2nd server. But this is why I have not gotten rid of my physical media either. If my server dies it will be a bad day, but I can still pull my discs from storage and start over from scratch if needed. I do however copy off all of my home media (mostly pics and videos of the kiddos), and important digital documents to a portable HDD and send them to my Dad every once in a while (who also has his own server). So if our house burns down (or their house burns down) we each have copies of each-other's media. We also use services such as OneDrive and Google Photos, but the quality on those is not quite the same. So all that said, it can be a ton of fun! And now we are looking at going over the 1000 movie and 1000 episode mark some time this year. Still looking for a 4K ripping solution as I am starting to collect 4K media, but I have to say that 1080p rips from bluray look way better than anything I have seen streamed at 4k, so I am still pretty happy with it. I would also say that you need to find a good balance on drive size vs quantity of drives. I started this quite a while ago when 3TB drives were about as good as you could go reliably, and so when I maxed out the 6 ports on my motherboard I was using, but I needed more space, it quickly became a question of building a larger system and adding more drives, or starting over with larger drives. Thankfully I had my current motherboard fall into my lap (workstation Ivy-Bridge board) which has 10 on-board SATA, and 2 eSATA which helped me make my decision easier. But if I was starting over, I would probably opt for 6 4-6TB drives rather than the 10 3TB ones that I am running now. But after my last upgrade I should be good for the next 2-3 years, so that is now a problem for another day. About the best thing about having the home server is that it is our own curated collection. Very few "B" movies (except the ones we happen to enjoy), and the collection does not cycle through like Netflix and other services do. Plus, lots of really hard to find stuff, and imports that you just cant get from American streaming services. If it is on a disc, you can generally add it to your collection without much issue.
@tyrzxv
@tyrzxv 6 жыл бұрын
CaedenV the only thing I would add for you, is get a motherboard that uses ECC RAM so that the information is secure bit for bit until it's written to disk. ZFS does a great job preventing/handling any errors, but if a bad section of RAM messes it up before info is written to disk, ZFS doesn't know there ever was a problem... and I'm not saying this scenario will ever actually happen to your server, but it is a possibility. I've had many computers in my life, and only once was there bad ram, but man was it hard to go back and figure out what had been affected AFTER the bad RAM finally got noticed. For what it's worth, my first Freenas server was not ECC RAM either, and it ran fine.... it was just when I started thinking that it had too much stuff, that I got paranoid and decided to upgrade with a small server motherboard and 16gig ECC RAM, and 16 sata ports.
@CaedenV
@CaedenV 6 жыл бұрын
yep, that is my plan; I have access to server equipment through a non-profit recycler/refurbisher that I am involved with. So I have access to plenty of cheap used equipment to make this happen... main issue is being in a small house that has very little noise control. I sit in rooms around noisy servers all day, and am not about to deal with that kind of environment at home too lol. But at some point I am going to make some changes to my basement so that there will be a walled off dedicated space for all of our utilities (hvac, water heater, server, washer/drier), and then I will be more willing to put it in there. For now the consumer equipment route makes more sense for my situation. Oh! and since writing this I tried to convert to VMWare with HDD passthrough so I can do more enterprise level playing on my home network... turns out that my motherboard does not pass the non-intel controlled HDD ports, so that rather sucks. Going to have to move to another solution sooner or later just for that issue.
@eugenewhipple2562
@eugenewhipple2562 5 жыл бұрын
very nice n best thing about digital media on own server is never changing discs after initial ripping of course n also big plus is saves wear and tear on them as well ...ive been doing this for past 6 years n right now running very minimilistic pc for media center (not yet a nas) plan to up grade to put into a nas system ..will freenas os allow diffetent size of hdd to be used or all need to be same n will i be able to use the drives with data on them or do they need to be emptied when i go from windows yo freenas ty in advance
@chaoticblankness
@chaoticblankness 6 жыл бұрын
Oh I love you three. Great video.
@SupermotoZach
@SupermotoZach 6 жыл бұрын
The gag with the stairs was too funny :P
@raph4el42
@raph4el42 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! You're funny & sympathic! And one can learn!!!
@BrookZerihun
@BrookZerihun 6 жыл бұрын
I was using Subsonic, found Plex, found a Dell R710 and now I still have the Netflix Hulu and Amazon, but no Cable, last four years of a cable free home has been amazing
@veritas6936
@veritas6936 6 жыл бұрын
well its about time somebody brought this up, netflix does not equal quality just re-encoded compressed crap and now it looks even worse when watched on 4k tv's.
@mrrogersneighbourhood
@mrrogersneighbourhood 6 жыл бұрын
Was this just for the media server demo portion? I thought setting up zfs with the raid card (even with raid-0) in anything other an "IT mode" was a big no no
@benjaminl1173
@benjaminl1173 6 жыл бұрын
These are the videos I live for
@biffy7
@biffy7 5 жыл бұрын
Very nicely done.
@hellonader
@hellonader 4 жыл бұрын
I love these guys 💕
@RighteousBruce
@RighteousBruce 6 жыл бұрын
love the camera work :_)
@RedNineAu
@RedNineAu 6 жыл бұрын
This can also be done on an old PC with a few extra hard drives thrown into it. You don't need a server as such.
@ossipeltonen397
@ossipeltonen397 6 жыл бұрын
I am just thinking about using my old 16GB i5 3570k as a Plex-server.
@ClayMann
@ClayMann 6 жыл бұрын
This can be done on an almost worthless amazon fire TV box. I did it for years. I'm running an nvidia shield tv now which is just the best thing i ever got my for my media needs. The point is there are these super cheap android boxes that are just tiny and have tiny power requirements. They're silent, cheap, easy to use and will happily live in a networked setup. The only reason you'd use a big ass server like this is if you have one that's too old to do anything else but even then. The running costs, the noise and space it takes up are all just too much to ask when you can get Plex running on a USB sized stick that you plug into your TV for $30. Spend just a little more and you can have a little monster of a box no bigger than your hand that can stream 4K around the house and get access to all the services you want like youtube, netflix, amazon video, bbc iplayer and so on and so on. It's great to have it all there under one interface. The server idea is just 10 years too late. I'd out and out call this video bad advice in todays world where you can have so much power in such cheap little devices.
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 6 жыл бұрын
clay mann - where are the drives in your setup? is it just an SD card or smth? largely just curious because it feels like you're discounting the space the storage takes in your description of how big something has to be? not saying it's a bad idea or anything though if all you want is a file server and not a transcoder, and it's only going to be serving files to a one or two clients at a time. (unless your storage machine is also your playback machine?) a rack mount server like this is definitely overkill, but the video said that too, they kept saying that rack mount was just something they already had. my media/file server is the smallest mITX case that fitted 6 hard drives. it's silent and draws about 20 or 30W just like these android boxes do.
@ClayMann
@ClayMann 6 жыл бұрын
Well for me the storage is in two places. Locally on the shield itself. You can use a big usb stick or external drive and have that be the memory for the whole shield TV. A few terabytes on an external drive is going to satisfy most people I would think. The other place I use is in my main PC which is on 24/7. That has 6x3TB drives. Its not all for media. 1.2TB in use for video which is hundreds of movies and TV shows. So a larger single drive really is a pretty hefty amount of space. In Plex you can just switch between which location you want to tap into. I think honestly for most people a single drive would be more than enough hooked up to an android box. I mean fair enough if you need many many terabytes for several hundred movies that's going to want a file server but that has to be the 1% with collections that big. And if you have a collection that big. You're super into it and probably have a NAS already setup. Its the sort of thing you gradually grow into as your collection grows. For ordinary folk like me with average collections. I don't even need the remote PC. I just like having access to that stuff on my main PC because that's where its always lived. If I were giving out advice to a family that has a bunch of TV's and a bunch of people who all want media 24/7. I'd buy everyone a 4K android TV box. Buy a bunch of external drives for each one. That way everyone gets their own unique collection of media. Dad gets his old TV shows, mom gets her collection of disney movies. Three kids each get their own collections of blockbusters and don't have to even look at the old shit the parents have BUT they can each access each others collections with a simple click in Plex. So everyone can watch anything from anywhere in the house at any time and combined all the devices would be using a tiny fraction of what that one server is using. Plus each setup is 100% silent and takes up the space of a book. I normally totally respect these guys knowledge but here I think the desire to make use of old server hardware has clouded their judgement on what an ideal setup could be.
@LetsGoBowlingNiko
@LetsGoBowlingNiko 6 жыл бұрын
Clay Mann While your suggestion is a great alternative for people who don't have knowledge of NAS server or doesn't want the complicated rackmount setups, I think the reason why most people choose NAS as the ultimate home media server is because of reliability. How are you sure that those external hard drives won't fail on you and completely lose all of your data or get corrupted? With any kind of NAS, like from Synology and QNAP or from your own home-built server, you can ensure that it never loses all of its data by just simply swapping the faulty HDD and let it rebuild itself.
@kelownatechkid
@kelownatechkid 3 жыл бұрын
The stairs bit was funny :P
@chadm3985
@chadm3985 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. That thing is thirsty though! My FreeNAS box with 8 drives, pfSense box, and iMac running Blue Iris pulls less than 250 total.
@thebestweston8307
@thebestweston8307 6 жыл бұрын
Living in an apartment, a true server isn't ideal with the noise - even if minimal. I run an optiplex 990 mini tower as a home server. Really, as long as anything decent 2010 and up has a gigabit nic, you're set on a home server without the rack or noise. Quad cores will likely be your best bet if you're hitting it with multiple clients or even higher res.
@arolust
@arolust 6 жыл бұрын
I find alot of the small android tv boxes work fairly well, though you might need a drive bay if you have alot of drives. Ultra small (fit in your hand), low power, quad core, 4k, no fan machines. Plus plex, or kodi can be found on play store, with another app or two you can have it set as launcher even.
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 6 жыл бұрын
that sounds more like a media pc than a media server, if it's storing it on the same machine that accesses it. which is absolutely fine for many people of course. and of course a home media pc can also be a server for accessing it from other machines in the house. however, depending on how much power a little ARM box has, i would wager it'd struggle to play the video smoothly if someone else were streaming content over the network from it (though i'd love to be wrong!) for that reason, i'm a fan of having the storage and serving happening on a separate cpu than the system that's playing the media. it also opens up other potentials, because now you have a home server - something designed to be left on all the time but not take much power. you can run your torrents (just for distro ISOs etc, ofc ;) ) from it, back up your computers to it, even run a minecraft world if you wanted. and i think that's part of what they're trying to build up to, they mentioned wanting to do a series on a generic home server in the future, and a media server with enough power is a gateway to that. also i'm not sure if there's any way to get ZFS running on a little ARM box, given its ram requirements and how every few weeks it has to go and compare checksums of all your files to ensure integrity. and wendell especially is a big fan of having redundancy for any long-term media storage (as am i ever since one of my favourite anime series living on my desktop succumbed to bit-rot and became unwatchable, which copied over to the backup) and you basically need ZFS for that right now. btrfs is making headway but is still definitely not suitable for "production use".
@bsfatboy
@bsfatboy 3 жыл бұрын
😂 the beginning was like I just walked into a conversation in an elevator.
@intrepid_wandering
@intrepid_wandering 6 жыл бұрын
You found some good co-hosts wendell.
@joonaknuutinen5540
@joonaknuutinen5540 6 жыл бұрын
you mean ryan found some good co-hosts? id watch his solo videos. he seems like an interesting guy. id imagine him watching out of the window and see zombies running around chasing people and eating brains, and he would just be like "Meh." and close the curtain and continue his work.
@NeptuneSega
@NeptuneSega 4 жыл бұрын
@@joonaknuutinen5540 No, we all mostly came for Wendell, back when the whole Tek Syndicate thing happened
@peterwilkinson1975
@peterwilkinson1975 5 жыл бұрын
love u guys! :D
@catsspat
@catsspat 4 жыл бұрын
I see a ductless mini-split air handler back there. Great choice!
@cbremer83
@cbremer83 6 жыл бұрын
Built a server with an e3 1241v3 CPU. Also run FreeNAS on it. At idle it pulls about 50 watts from the UPS it's on. And can get up to about 120 watts when transcoding with plex. And with Noctua cooler and fans, it's very quite. Though not as cheap as an old rack server, it sure is nicer to live with.
@eish007
@eish007 3 жыл бұрын
So glad I found this channel haha
@Level1Techs
@Level1Techs 3 жыл бұрын
Us too! ~ Editor Amber
@pseudocode6506
@pseudocode6506 4 жыл бұрын
that thing is so loud! I am using a silent, fanless mini PC with an i7 8650u and it works great.
@MarkRose1337
@MarkRose1337 6 жыл бұрын
I love your sense of humour :D
@delcambrem
@delcambrem 6 жыл бұрын
Wow.. she is actually a good actor and very funny!! Nicely done!!!!!!!!
@goldbrick2751
@goldbrick2751 6 жыл бұрын
Great show, I am going to try thus guys, I have a Poweredge R410 so maybe a PLEX would be great option for it. Thanks for the info.
@vskye1
@vskye1 6 жыл бұрын
When I first started hearing the "thumps" I thought that the boiler was even more possessed than before, until I saw her lugging that server up from the basement. :D lol
@cryptopsycho4838
@cryptopsycho4838 6 жыл бұрын
This is so helpful. tnx guys.
@DickCinnamon
@DickCinnamon 6 жыл бұрын
Point of fact: Krista's grey shirt looked very nice. Excellent taste.
@derekprice9998
@derekprice9998 5 жыл бұрын
Have been running a media server for quite some time now and here is a basic guide on creating a cheap media server for streaming all your mediaaround your home. 1. find a decent motherboard & cpu combi on ebay ideal core 2 duo, 2gb ram anything more isn't needed but is better, the motherboard your only really interested in Sata slots (4/6 is ideal) and pci slots for adding extra sata slots with raid cards if you need more space. 3. Tower casing your really only seeking something that has 8+ hard drive bays and a couple of optical drive bays is a bonus (optical bays can be converted to add more hard disk space). Gaming towers, expensive servers and other such things are not needed. You can get away with using a cheap 30 pound tower casing. 4. Power Supply - Needs to be a decent brand name, good quality and at least 500 watt+ to cover future upgrades IE adding more hard drives in and it should come with a few sata power connectors ie 6+ (you can get splitters to add more connections) 5. thumb drive - get yourself a small 16gb thumb drive needs to be one of them tiny ones that don't stick out so you don't accidentally knock it if moving server any time. Installing and running an OS from the thumb drive makes sense because it means freeing up sata slots for hard disk for your media. 6. Hard disks - start off with say two 1tb hard drives having two means you can use raid to have back ups to keep your data safe. You can add bigger disks like 2tb, 3tb, 10tb etc but you don't need that much space unless you already have large collections of media ready to rip. You can add more disk space and upgrade disk space as and when needed so starting off small and growing when needed makes sense. You can get away with using existing hardware, used hardware etc so don't need to break the bank and can fit even a small budget. Get yourself a copy of freenas 100% free and does a pretty good job of sharing media. I have a cheap media server set up and it cost under 150 and it servers all media purposes fine. :)
@SMSmith
@SMSmith 6 жыл бұрын
That server boot fan spin up breeze gets me everytime.
@markm7708
@markm7708 6 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for an update on this since the freenas tutorial from teksyndicate. Really hope this is just the start/teaser.
@wsi6qml
@wsi6qml 6 жыл бұрын
It's nice to see Kreestuh and Grizzle in more videos! I'm assuming Wendell overdosing on m&ms while watching Star Trek in the next room... or he was filming
@user-me8hc3bs7i
@user-me8hc3bs7i 6 жыл бұрын
Very excited for this, I attempted to build a plex server out of an old PC for my first computer project and failed miserably and gave up.
@Cooper3312000
@Cooper3312000 6 жыл бұрын
Looks like an awesome place to work.
@NariKims
@NariKims 6 жыл бұрын
Love the comedy in this. 😂
@johnnycomas
@johnnycomas 4 жыл бұрын
Do a vid on OMV + snapraid + mergerfs. You can use any size drive, any amount of parity (as long as larger than largest drive), can lose any amount of drives, any filesystem, and can start with full drives. So many benefits to the setup for a starter media server and only sacrifice speed which is generally not a factor for a home media server.
@spyder000069
@spyder000069 6 жыл бұрын
With over a decade of dedicated media servers behind me I just don't bother anymore. Just as easy to keep the media on my standard pc and stream to chrome cast or our Roku box. The bonus is you only have to maintain your normal system. The Roku has a good built in media player which organizes the videos and will pull title thumbnails.
@yeti8it396
@yeti8it396 5 жыл бұрын
I just realized that Krista has a nice shape . never seen her NOT behind a desk .
@nvxwax1785
@nvxwax1785 6 жыл бұрын
For those that dont want a loud server and want to go through a little extra work can try my setup, I run a Super Micro SuperServer 5015A-EHF-D525 (Atom based server)running Ubuntu 16.04 headless as my plex server, one very large hard drive for media (Backed up to another server), I have all my media encoded to direct stream to my roku 3's and samsung TV's. works like a champ and is quiet and uses less power. You can get the supermicro servers off ebay for about 100 bucks if you keep an eye out.
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