The hospital I work public safety at we are required to wear level IIIA body armor, however there is no requirement for stab/spike rating. So I took it upon myself to get two 8x10 stab/spike 2 inserts for the front and back. I have to be honest though, I'm more concerned about getting stabbed by a pair of scissors or a knife than I am getting shot, but I realize that either have a rather high chance of happening.

When I was a corrections officer I wore dual purpose body armor it was 3A ballistics rated plus rated to protect against edge weapons and knife threats some other officers wore the same some only wore stab vests that weren't bullet resistant. I wore a dual-purpose vest because I transported prisoners armed sometimes Great video

You do a good job of explaining the rating system

I was stabbed in north London by a gang they thought I was a rival gang member and stabbed me 2 times I was in critical condition for 3 weeks when I recovered I bought a stab vest so any time I'm outside I have it on

Love your channel! I'm a sheriff explorer and our department is very "low budget" and we don't get much classroom training. Pretty much all our training comes from ride alongs. Thanks a bunch!

A co-worker of mine got stabbed at a protest years ago outside Parliament in London. The "protester" slammed a wood chisel dead center on his chest leaving it stuck in the vest, before he got tackled by about half a dozen other officers. Pretty nuts if you ask me. BTW, your videos are absolutely fantastic!

I’m pretty excited for my safe life armor to arrive. I bought the concealed three enhanced and I honestly can’t believe how many people are against armor. It’s a passive way or defense it makes no sense to be against. Especially when all you have to do is rock a face shot or a leg shot and the fight will end. But even people who don’t wish to carry a firearm can still use armor as a means of defense from an attacker. Such a shame all the reactionary people have to demonize something that is literally only capable of saving a life. Thanks for your videos man!

I just came across your channel this past week and I'm glad I did. I am learning a lot from your videos. Thank you!

The problem in the UK with these vests are that they generally don't cover some of the most common and deadly situations or you could say angles or positions. Knives tend to travel along the big V shaped openings at the body in a fight between legs, side and arm, shoulder and head to unfortunately the most vulnerable areas. The stab through the armpit area when grabbing, pushing, punching as well stabs and slashes to the neck and head. A lot of criminals are punching with the blade similar to haymakers onto upper targets or attack the groin area when getting overwhelmed or pummeled from a cowering position. Gangs have learned to use knives more effective, attacks become more and more targeted.

I'm getting one for hospital security. Fantastic pieces of armor. Can't say enough about the dangers of hospital workplace violence.

I just got very lucky finding a used level ii ballistic/ level ii spike vest, I work in an emergency department it was important to me to have both threats covered

This video was excellent and very informative. I am glad to know that my agency issued me the highest level resistance vest available

For anyone looking for a good stab vest: I recommend the PPSS covert style stab vest. It's made from polycarbonate ( a hard but flexible, nearly unbreakable plastic). It's very comfortable for a "hard shell" type stab vest (considerably more comfortable than the one I was issued) and it protects you from punches and kicks as well as blades and spikes. The only drawback is that it does not overlap on the sides of your torso, so there is an unprotected area on both sides of your body. Been wearing it at work for about 14 months now, would buy it again ina heartbeat.

Thankyou, very informative and useful video! I have seen a lot of information on stab proof vest ratings and found this video helpful I live in the U.K and have thought about investing in a vest for protection. With the information I have now I can make an more informed decision on what to look for

hey man love the vids keep em coming. self learned most stuff. wish had an fto like u. keep it coming!!

I was thinking about a lvl 3a bulletproof/bulletsafe vest with lvl 2 spike and edged protection. The company was called Safeguard Armor. Anyone heard of them or know about them?

great info mate i'm purchasing a vest at the minute and i'm in the UK and with the knife crime that's so huge in my city i and my partner have now taken to buying these as we have searched a lot of our own info i cant believe there arn't many videos about this and for an American bloke to help me out here in the UK i thank you for that sir very much appreciated

Thanks for the info brother!

Great info, cheers!

Thanks for the knowledge.

Thank you for sharing..It's good to know..

Can you make a vid how good a 3a amor with out stap proof does

something i would like to add. UK police for the most part carry a "combination" vest which is a level IIIA ballistic vest with a chainmail layer built into the front of the vest to make it knife resistant

Awesome! and Im not even gonna lie i didn't even really think about knifes in these situations Thanks for uploading great content!

what I found to be the effective and crucial tools in my career that took me 3 years to develop and I would love to see you touch on (poor mentorship/training) body language, depending escalating. ... the other goid things to touch on would be deception detection and interview skills. these I did not have an issue with. I've always had a natural skill set in these areas.

Glad you are back and made it home safety, how was your trip?

43 Joules is how much energy 250 gram blade carries at 18.5 m/s or 67 km/h, such as if it was thrown at you. If you were stabbed and the combined mass (blade and arm) that exerts inertial force onto vest through the blade was 5 kg, then that.s 4.1 m/s or 15 km/h. For comparison, a .22LR bullet carries about 150 J of energy, more or less depending on cartridge. A typical pistol bullet has 600-800 J, rifle bullets are in 2500-3500 J range and shotgun bullets usually exceed 4000 J - buckshot is losing energy rapidly as it travels through the air but at point blank range it also has over 4000 J of energy combined.

Here in the UK regular officers wear stab vests but firearms officers do not they wear ballistic bullet proof vests

very interesting! good video.

So hypothetically could you wear a stab proof vest over a bulletproof vests and have protection from both? From what I understand your mobility would be limited a lot.

You did a good job

Good video any ways!

London UK. They don't aim for the chest. "Experienced' street blades slash at your femoral arteries, neck, inner elbow, face across your eyes, or up into your armpit. What good is a stab vest? Does it matter when they sidestep the protection?

Nice video!

nice videos man, I hope to be a sheriff, state trooper or police officer! keep em coming.

Just a personal recommendation, I presently wear a level 3a/slash/spike level 2 vest. While it may be heavier than a standard ballistic only vest, I like having the extra protection and I think a lot of security/law enforcement officers would benefit from it

@free field training any tips on where i can get a good price for value stab vest? i don't really know where to start looking :/

this is one i got .. (Aegis Hawk Black Overt Body Armour Bullet Proof Stab Vest) SPECS ======= Protection level - HG1A / KR1 HG1 - High Level Protection against handgun 9mm FMJ and .357 Mag JSP ammunition and bullets with up to 25mm blunt force penetration KR1 - High Level Protection against blades, knives and other edged weapon attacks - protects against 24J force impact and 7 mm force penetration

I have a Halberd. A stab from that would probably be a 400% over the average inmate. I like Medieval Home protection.

It's relatively easy to make stab proof and light shell. I made it using 16 compressed layers of fibreglass woven roving 195gsm thickness 2mm. No way for tools shown in the video to go through.

What about chainmail?

I currently wear a spike 3 rated vest for work. I just hope the day I need the vest to work it does its job and hopefully I don't get stabbed in the neck or face lol.

I watched a cop gets stabbed with a stab-proof vest and the only thing it did was prevent the knife from coming back out once they were stabbed

i made my own its great

wow, i did a double take when i first heard words instead of "SIIIIIIIIP"

We may need bayonet proof armour soon.

Working security is dangerous . No one thinks about the safety concern when it comes to putting on a uniform, and working with the public . I work security , and I currently wear a level II VEST from the time I leave home to the time I get home . I recommend anyone in security , armed , unarmed , desk work, rent a cop, does not matter . Wear one!

lol 'and I don't play one on TV' nice vid.

good job explaining really but i have gotten flesh wounds wearing the hg1a kr1 armour with long fights with different weapons of sharpness. after the fight and injury's i received the next day i tested my 22cal. handgun on it and lets just say the last 2 close shots i was around 3-4 feet away and fired and it went straight into the vest and would of ended my life, ut it was heavily stabbed the day before.

I have read through all the comments...and my only thought is this....you don't know what you are going to face....so better something than nothing. Whatever you are wearing...it just may be enough to save your life. I just wear a stab vest as security officers are not allowed to utilize ballistic armor here in Australia.

lol a 10 inch vest against a knife. i have a stab rated wrist band. It protects my wrist from stabs. very effective.

Use chain mail for slash PROOFness

Yes. That's a good knife, the kitchen knife, to demonstrate this! Most stabbing occur with large kitchen knives like this one : they're very good at stabbing people in the street etc. They're not strong or anything but they don't need to be as civilian stabbing isn't warzone "Im in the FOA tryna survive I use my knife to stab terros and dismantle tanks ": they're long, thin and pointy: they're perfectly fit to deal with meat . Tanto knives are the less effective piercing tips. For the same reason that they're strong : they're obtuses and thick, and that's why they suck at penetration.

In Britain, level 1 every one should have. Normal citizens

You put a knife or ice pick 3/4 of an inch inside your body, you will NOT be a happy camper.

We don't even use this in our jail.

I’m sorry....but is Bill Murray the narrator?

If you are stuck in a room with 100 hostile inmates, getting stabbed is the least of your worries...

Make your own vest using white plastic cutting boards inserted into tactical vest

Couldn't you just wear AR500-550 steel plates?

You are a Canadian officer ?

Solution to both problems... Just get a plate carrier with plates inside then you have a bullet proof carrier and a knife cant stab through a steel plate! Expensive yes but id rather go that route.

A real chain mail steel vest weighs about half a hundred weight so is unrealistic to wear. Stab vests are a good idea - I have a combined bullet/stab vest and the stab resistance is provided by steel overlapping discs making it spike proof as well. Still too heavy and bulky! At the moment I have investigated the new soft materials especially the 'polythene' from China. The material is compressed under many tons and therefore the strike plates that are manufactured usually have about 45 layers. Demo videos show a single sheet of the material is cut and pierce proof so 45 compressed layers should protect from any spike or knife attack. The actual tests for stab proof vests don't really go far enough to inspire confidence and seem more designed to allow the manufacturers to achieve a rating for their product. Example: The spike and knife test is done as a drop test. 43 joules sounds great until it is explained as the force of a baseball thrown from ten feet away travelling at ten miles per hour. Or half the force of a normal punch! A real test should be a full force hammer action spike attack carried out by a strong healthy middleweight man with speed and momentum. The only real objection to people wearing body armour is that gangs and violent people seem to adopt it to make themselves more dangerous to the public. My only worry is that body armour for joe public has become such a money earner now that big companies will sell the product with assurances that cannot be tested until you are in the worse scenario and depending on the vest to save your life. My advice - buy one of the plates and strap it onto a side of beef and attack it with every sharp weapon you can find - proof of the pudding is in the eating! Test before you invest, try before you buy...

Angry looters with knives will probably be a problem if there's a zombie apocalypse.

Cops should just wear chain mail

Is this guy a cop

PADS (stabbed) hahaha! got you ther- (stabbed in the throat)

Where is the BLM peaceful protester technique?