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Tascam X8 vs Zoom H1n: Which Audio Recorder is Better For You?
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Күн бұрынAre you torn between the Tascam X8 and the Zoom H1n audio recorders? We're here to help! In this video, we put the Tascam X8 and Zoom H1n head-to-head, testing them in a variety of conditions to help you decide which one is the better fit for your audio recording needs.
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@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
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@patricksharpe 2 жыл бұрын
Recording wise there's almost no difference in quality between the two devices being delivered through KZfaq. Listening at home in my studio with a pair of near field monitors. The Tascam X8 might have a flatter EQ at certain frequencies leaving the Zoom sounding slightly brighter but its pretty hard to tell to be honest. It's safe to say that you wont go wrong with either device. IMO.
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more. Both sounding great for the recording examples. We do have sound samples and I upload them into the All In One Bundle soon.
@Dale_Blackburn 2 жыл бұрын
Can you describe what you meant by flatter EQ please? Thanks.
@JuiceBlack 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dale_Blackburn it means certain frequencies are neither boosted nor reduced, hence they are 'flat' and more representative of what the audio actually sounds like
@TareqASamra 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dale_Blackburn Basically the device isn't adding its own touch to things, that may either prefer female voices, or male voices, etc. It is being equally fair, and with no unique quirks to take advantage of creatively.
@AlejandroNavas 2 жыл бұрын
I do notice a huge difference in how each device captures space. I can feel the Audio coming from the Portacapture X8 to have a more natural sound, in terms of perspective. The H1n tend to sound less dynamic, like all the sounds are blending together and have less separation. This has nothing to do with EQ or KZfaq audio compression.
@chrisfor 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, really like how your cinematography is shaping up. I love my H1N and is more than enough for my needs.
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Chris! The Zoom H1n is a great recorder and I still use it too.
@emersonsea73 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the video. I've had an H1 for several years and he never let me down. Thanks for the comparison.
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Emerson! We are glad you enjoyed it!
@francescocambria2891 Жыл бұрын
The most complete, enjoyable and honest comparison I have seen so far. Thank you
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@nafawi7965 Жыл бұрын
X8 has more dimensionality, more depth. As a musician, I notice it has more warmth but retains openness and clarity when recording live music and in your soundscapes as well. I love Zoom…owned 5 of them. X8 will be my next device though.
@Sashik 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. Listening all recordings in Beyerdynamic DT770 pro 250 ohm, I hear more details in the background with X8, when H1n sound more muffled regarding sounds at a distance. Side by side X8 gives a little step up from couple samples already, but so much important step up that the sound feels more natural and soundstage is wider. X8 makes everything sound beyond realistic, somehow(for me), in the way I really like it. My first H1n on the way, will record audio effects with it for my future games. Cheers!
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much sharing your thoughts too Alex! Great to have you here on the channel!
@dfcx1 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, this different-categories-of-the-same-product comparison format is interesting. Based on this video the X8 sounds better with a more realistic sound and a wider stereo image, but the difference in these samples is subtle, less than you might expect for a 5x price difference... but you aren't paying 5x just for the slightly better built-in mics but rather for the features. 32-bit float, 4 XLR inputs with phantom power, multichannel recording. To the H1n's credit small size and low price are great features as well and there's no doubt in my mind that it's the right product for more people's use cases.
@benjaminbong 2 жыл бұрын
Yay! Thank you for the great video! I think the H1n does so much for its price. Thank you Marcel and Libby!
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
That is true Ben. For $100 you get a great recorder.
@StarskyHomer 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. Great job shooting and editing Libby! Was that the Vlog Alpha? Still very much looking forward to that big q&a with the both of you :)
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes. Sony Alpha A7iv, ZV1 and iPhone 13
@VOByRobbins 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison Marcel! both do sound amazing, I have to say the X8 clearly has more sensitive onboard microphones and has a more dynamic and open sound with less background noise, but I'm using really good headphones..... to the untrained ear, the differences will be small-- now using external microphones, the differences would be even smaller! -- The H1n is how you started and I'm sure other folks out there can easily start their beginnings into field recording with this H1N recorder and no one would be the wiser when they hear the final product! the lesson here is just go out and record, content is the most important thing! Love your video Libby!!!!!!!!!!
@paulcomeau6 2 жыл бұрын
Great assessment Michael Robbins. I noticed the same thing about slightly greater openness and sensitivity of the X8 on my headphones. The H1n is a great device considering cost and portability (the best sound recorder is the one in your pocket). No regrets purchasing it. Looking to upgrade to external mics in the future for more definition and directivity capture. Thanks for sharing Marcel.
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Michael! I was wondering if somebody ever noticed the videography too. :)
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Paul!
@ngonzale3 Жыл бұрын
The decision is harder, which is a good thing I guess. I’m interested in the new X6 which is smaller but I can use my xlr shotgun mic along with wired or wireless lavalier. But there’s no excuse to not own an H1n as a main or backup tool. Thank you for all that you do!
@dqstudios 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this! It was closer than I thought it would be. but for the last session I closed my eyes and only opened them when I thought the recorder switched and I was correct every time, even though I’m only listening on Apple Airpods (3rd gen). the Tascam has significantly better low representation, but also seems a bit more susceptible to wind. But agree with the other commenter that the dynamic range of these situations is relatively low. And the 32-bit float will shine in more challenging situations or when time is tight. But it just goes to show that any tool in the right hands can be a great one. 🙌
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Can't agree more Dave! I think when doing the X8 vs Sound Devices and Zoom, I hope I can get some loud sounds too.
@martyjwalker Жыл бұрын
I can probably hear a very slight difference but I wouldn't know which was which without the labels. Both sound amazing.
@shiao3990 2 жыл бұрын
most helpful video I've seen so far!
@christiannikodemus 2 жыл бұрын
I used the "Scary Wind Textures" Library and it was incredible! It was evident that would have been quite an experience! Really added to the storytelling, and I could tell there was a story of itself behind those winds!
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Christian! This is so cool to hear. Wind sounds are always hard to get and this was a fun one to record. So glad to hear that :)
@hamradioop5777 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very nicely made set of experiments. I feel that I must give a strong shout-out for the excellent film work and editing 🙂
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching and we really appreciate your positive feedback.
@skipstream2 5 ай бұрын
I have both. The zoom is the one I slip in my pocket on the way out the door for those “just in case” moments. And for research of locations. The X8 is what I take to recorded properly at high sample rate with 32 bit float for the safety of knowing what I can do with it in post. Also the x8 I attach other mics to it and use for contact mic and hydrophone etc etc. They both have their specific use cases
@hcrespo3 2 жыл бұрын
thank you, I just bought a zoom h1n and I am amazed at the quality sounds it can record.
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear that :)
@rouvenwildeggerbitz7759 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great video! For the price the H1 sounds extremly good! That is the cool thing about the Zoom handhelds. I really like the sound of my H5 mics, too. For my the upgrade to better mics is a real problem budget wise. I think the mics of the x8 sound a little more open with less bass frequenzy and I’m really glad to hear that you get a really good xy or ab solution on board. The question that bothers me at the moment is: how important is it really (!) to have 32bit when you can do postproduction? But that is an other question. So thank you for the comparison! Personally i’m glad that I liked the x8 more than the H1.
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Rouven :)
@rafael.gazoni 2 жыл бұрын
"Keep in mind, only because something is brand New, not means is better" ...perfect, I always say this to my filmmakers friends.
@overjok 2 жыл бұрын
True ! 🤗
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rafael!
@ChristopherCabello 2 жыл бұрын
Playing with this device at a tascam booth at a music conference I realized this tool is much better suited for a niche audience. For instance, I already have a zoom h4n but this new device would allow me to record a safety track, power it via power bank, allow me to change the pitch without affecting the speed of the track and most importantly, adjust my settings via Bluetooth and the app. That's what stood out to me.
@tomalexiou9573 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Marcel for this video comparison!
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
It was our pleasure!!
@runningintohistory 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison. I have and love my H1n. I use it for most of the audio on my channel. Your videos helped me decide on the H1n a year ago and I have been obsessing over the importance of audio ever since. But I recently picked up the X8 and have been loving it. I definitely notice more clarity with the X8. But I mainly purchased it for video interviews with multiple mics, recording podcasts on the road, plugging my (vocalist)wife's condenser mic(Rode NT1) into it while micing my acoustic guitar with the onboard X8 mics while adding reverb, compression and EQ and then synching this to our video channel. Sounds amazing with this setup and completely portable. I do minimal field recording but I do use the X8 for ambient and sound effects creation for my videos. I never record over 96k so I haven't heard the notorious hum issue. Oh and the tuner and metronome, for me as a guitarist is awesome. I couldn't find any other device that can perform all the of these roles.
@shivamnandiofficial Жыл бұрын
hey!!! isn't the volume button loose? doesn't it create noise?
@runningintohistory Жыл бұрын
@shivam nandi I haven't had any issues with the volume on my X8 or H1n.
@shivamnandiofficial Жыл бұрын
@@runningintohistory that is good to know.. i ordered one and then the volume button was so loose that it made a slight click noise if the hardware is moving (like me walking and recording). That noise was so disappointing in the final audio😟 very disturbing. then I replaced that with another piece and faced same issue (ordered on Amazon) While no one on internet talks about it as it is such a big problem. So maybe both pieces were faulty. For me - the use case is street interview recording. So can’t keep it static. Now am wondering whether to order from another seller or spend some more money to try out h2n.
@runningintohistory Жыл бұрын
@shivam nandi are you talking about the h1n or X8? I do know a lot of people are placing gaffer tape over the h1n volume button because its so easy to accidentally move the setting. I will end up doing the same thing since I bumped the volume button accidentally a few times while in my pocket. But my h1n volume isn't loose enough to just move while walking. Interesting you had two like that.
@shivamnandiofficial Жыл бұрын
@@runningintohistory i am talkin about h1n. and yes its volume button was making noise while i moved (or just move my hand). on both pieces i ordered. That is why i was so surprised as there is no mention of this anywhere.
@johnathan2684 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like H1n gets more lower tones. Both recorders sound great. I'm keeping my H4nPro for as long as possible. Great video. Thanks.
@shadinrish 2 жыл бұрын
So useful! Thank you!
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being here with us! :)
@chipfilmstv 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Marcel! I love the H1N cause it goes everywhere with me.
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Same here! Always in the pocket :)
@ViciousXUSMC 2 жыл бұрын
I see you have now owned and used the Tascam X8 and the Zoom F6. I am currently looking at both of these. Between the two have you a preference, and mind sharing why? I wanted the X8 at first, love the screen and the fact I can have one device to do some on site recordings with the built in mics (like a concert) but my research usually has the F6 rated as the "better" device. I understand one is more of a sound bag field recorder and one is a handy recorder, but they do have a lot of overlap in features and close in price, heck you could disconnect the X8 mics if you really wanted to use it more like a dedicated field recorder. I have a H2N that I took with me to a concert not long ago, and it sounded terrible worse than my phones recording, maybe just where I was standing and the way the microphones are made, no clipping, just no detail and dynamics it was all bass, but I also dropped it when using it for a KZfaq video for LAV recording forgetting it was tethered to me, so maybe I damaged the built in mics.
@IsiahKendall Жыл бұрын
I own both of these and can say i prefer the X8. The H1n was giving me white noise issues randomly which made it un-reliable. X8 sounds more crisp and clear when capturing recordings. I notice a huge difference when working with foley. I do like the compactness of H1n though if i just need something quickly and can throw it in my pocket for use later.
@videoguyla 11 ай бұрын
Very similar, i couldnt here any difference thank you
@mertserhanarslan4471 2 жыл бұрын
I decided to record the sounds of nature, city, cafes but I was confused to choose which mic is better for me. Thank you so much, your channel helps me a lot. I think H1n is the best option for me. Thanks again :)
@soundhole5498 2 жыл бұрын
I always have my Olympus lsp4 with me (it's actually even smaller than the zoom h1n). If you ever have the opportunity to test the olympus lsp4... don't miss it. maybe the smallest recorder with a good sound. I think it's so good to always have a recorder with you, but it doesn't bother you because it's so small and light. thanks for your work!!
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
This is also a nice piece of gear. I haven't used it but I heard good things.
@dudemetoo2053 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest achilles heel I have with the Tascam Portacapture x8 is it's mic capsules and wind noise. It doesn't matter what wind protection I use. The capsules on the Tascam seem affected by any amount of wind pressure that it actually blanks out small sections of the wav file - which is worse than peaking which can be fixed with 32bit float., but with this problem, when you go in to a DAW, it shows those sections with the wav file with a straight line and no recorded sounds. It happens even with the low cut filter if the wind is too strong - where as on my Sony PCM D100, it captures the same sound without that problem. Saddly, I am re-packing my Tascam to send back today. I may give the Zoom F3 a try later - but don't have any good external Mic and will need to save money to buy the Audio Technica 4025 with it's stereo xy mics.
@ryansanchez5434 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys!
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Pleasure!! :)
@marinrealestatephotography 2 жыл бұрын
Since the BEST audio is REDUNDANT audio, plan on buying both (or two H1n's). Not having redundant audio is playing with fire.
@reedwarbler 2 жыл бұрын
Your channel is awesome! I am completely new to this but I love your enthusiasm for it. It’s very inspiring. May I ask if the zoom h1n is good for a beginner who wants to capture everyday sounds? Can it be used with a contact mic? Thanks
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes its a great recorder and I think you can use it with a cm but double check the input.
@overjok 2 жыл бұрын
I love your work, Thank you for this moment ! +SUB
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome onboard! Nice to have you here! :)
@ScoobieDee Жыл бұрын
Love your show , different but as enjoyable and practical as watching Curtis Judd
@koawoods1793 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comparision! I think they both sound great but the Tascam X8 worth the money.
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@ginofoogle6944 6 ай бұрын
I have both and i catch myself using the H1n more than the Tascam purely because it's more portable.. sound wise the tascam is a little better but not by a lot. definitely would go for the h1n. especially if you just need a small and decent recorder.
@matiaskritz Жыл бұрын
I ask you a question, is the issue of the lines in the high frequencies in the Tascam solved? Do you have any information? Thank you very much for your time and congratulations for the channel.
@reyvaz2951 2 жыл бұрын
Than You so much for helping us with this importan decision making, this helps a lot, I only wish, to listen to the same exact sound from both, not sure if thats what you did, my point is I was looking to see wish leave behind any sound, the little details. Thanks!
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
We don't want to repeat a sequence but we switched during the video between H1n and Tascam and made a note each time.
@craig4297 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this comparision video! Have you also compared the X8 to the Zoom F6 and Mix-Pre 6ii?
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Not yet Craig. We do this on the road. We leave Bangkok in a couple days.
@PetrPodaril Жыл бұрын
There is a problem with Zoom H1n from my point: the auto recording. I need "full auto recording," which means to start recording when the acoustic pressure is above the required level and stop, after it goes down. But H1n can only start recording once. Then it would be stopped manually, or when you run out of battery/SD space.
@VulcanworxSG 2 жыл бұрын
Really sounds so similar. Thanks!
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching?
@pergunnareriksson 2 жыл бұрын
The difference in sound quality between the two recorders is like comparing 4K to 1080 on a small mobile phone; negible. Then it depends on what you're going to record. I would think that the Tascam is less sensitive when it comes to wind as well as handling noise. Especially the later is a "built-in" problem with the Zoom. :) But for my personal use which is recording external sound for personal videos to replace the subpar sound my cameras are capable of, both the original H1 as well as H1n (and H2n) is more than enough. Also simple to handle and reliable. Thanks for the video!
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Per! Great feedback :)
@blankonbank 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. But what I really love is your enthusiasm. I'm sure we could give you a phone and nothing else and you would record great sounds. Thanks and have a nice day.
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Ha Ha thank you so much! :)
@tyronemunsami6760 Жыл бұрын
The zoom has a wider, more spacious sound with crisp highs which caught my attention immediately. The tascam sounded flat throughout the frequency spectrum. The microphones are not as sensitive as the zoom microphones. This is what I noticed while listening to your video with Sony headphones.
@markreevestravels758 2 жыл бұрын
This video was so useful for me - it's almost like it was made for me - thank you! Think I'm gonna stick with the H1n, I love the compactness of the unit and my binaural's plug straight in. Man, I want to go to Bangkok right now, the moment when you missed the bell sound was exactly my reaction too.
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes and door :)
@jeremybassetti 2 жыл бұрын
Similar in quality. But to me, the x8 sounds a touch brighter, wider, and more sensitive. Impressed by the zoom going toe-to-toe with the newer and more expensive unit, but also pleasantly surprised by the quality of the tascam capsules. I listened blindly. At first I didn’t hear much of a difference, but the dock scene with the birds made it obvious. After that, the difference was clear. Thanks for the video. Cheers to you both.
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jeremy!
@Falorepus 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Video, still using my old ZOOM H1 like it a lot
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one :)
@brianfitzrealty 2 жыл бұрын
I could hear a noticeable difference in sound quality with the x8 being the clear winner. A better comparison would have been an environment that has both loud and soft sounds like a fireworks show or arcade. Having 32 bit float is a game changer for novices like me who struggle to get the gain levels just right. I have an x8 on order and hopefully it will arrive soon. Thx for your comparison!
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your input Brian!
@cryptotrader2779 2 жыл бұрын
Well well well. That was indeed a bit of a shock. Such minor little differences in the recordings except the busy scene by the road in the City, where the X8 had more obvious and warmer low end rumble from the cars/motorbikes/bus. I expected a much bigger difference than that. I think it convinced me to keep using my H1n and spend on some Clippys rather than a new recorder. I think I'll be OK with that as I spend time learning and recording more. I'll definitely watch this again in the next few minutes and really listen without any distraction from the chat. Thanks anyway Marcel. Quite an eye opening comparison for sure. I expected so much more from the X8.
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed the H1n is an awesome recorder and we hope we could showcase that. Quick question about the clippys. How much phantom power do they need? Is it enough to be used on the line in?
@cryptotrader2779 2 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds There's a stereo Clippy (EM272) available with a 3.5mm plug requiring PiP, and an XLR version with 12-48v Phantom. I've seen many people use the 3.5mm PiP version with the H1n and they sound great.
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
@@cryptotrader2779 Maybe when I'm back in Europe I can order them.
@SayantanGuha 10 ай бұрын
I guess its just the coloration of the mics, they both capture the important information that is needed
@BoopyTheFox 2 жыл бұрын
Those are wastly different types of recorders, but the point is still illustrated - even a cheap one can record high-quality audio. For me personally, having X-Y + A-B with 4 side-mounted XLR Combo jacks out of the box is the killer feature.
@paulotav2 Жыл бұрын
congrats! finaly a sound testing video... :)
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! We have a lot more on our channel. Happy exploring :)
@AndrewVanBeekOttawa 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this.
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@ElVeleroDePapel 2 жыл бұрын
Hola, cual me recomiendas comprar.
@pandoraefretum 2 жыл бұрын
they sound the same to me... nice sounds by the way
@ZorroComputers 10 ай бұрын
Those two are very very similar. However, if you try the Roland it's quite different from them.
@Bcwilderness Жыл бұрын
maybe a short on a dry room to compare as ambience washes out the source also wind weather etc
@LayersOfSilence 2 жыл бұрын
Difference is minimal, at least in the hands of Marcel) I think if you need just hand recorder and not exactly 32bit, just go for zoom h1n or smth like zoom h5, because it has different capsules option. Thanks for video guys! You’re best!
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Very true Anton. If 32 bit isn't important you can go with them. I also think about purchasing a Sony recorder.
@fernandolomeli2548 2 жыл бұрын
So hard to discern which one is “better”. Great quality on both! Obviously one has more options that the other but specifically in this one test that seem to go head to head. However I have the H1n so im just going to be biased and say that one is the better pick!
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Fernando! You are right, they both sound very similar and with the H1n you have a great companion!
@OdjoAdja 2 жыл бұрын
just wondering if the 32bit is ment for wider sound intensity/level dynamic range not the characters of the sound then the x8 will 'carch' more sound but maybe not since it's depend on the sensitivity of the pickup capsule, the benefits of 32bit is already in digital domain the ad converter for x8 is better than h1, but the result will be the same if the sound source in the same intensity range..
@tubekane 2 жыл бұрын
Both sound good
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
We think so too! Thanks for watching.
@paulroyle-grimes8279 2 жыл бұрын
This helps me decide where to spend money - I will definitely stick with my h1n for a while.
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Glad we could help! :)
@gregwilsonnaturephotography 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Marcel, I am so new to sound recording and don't have trained ears for sounds. I feel they are so similar... but if I understand the difference also would be the use of other types of microphones connected. As well as 32 bit float. I see the H1n limits to single mic input and my H6 more inputs.
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Greg. This is correct. The X8 has more features for sure but this video was only about the sound of the capsules to make it fair and realistic to the over the Zoom H1n. You are correct. They both sound very similar.
@lizanye 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly the same wow. I have an h6 and now I’m kinda thinking of just grabbing a h1n to do the more risky recordings
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
It's a great recorder for sure! Nothing is worse than no recording at all.
@NVK85 Жыл бұрын
All sounds was recorded in loud ambient environment. I think difference will be noticeable in more quiet environment when Zoom H1n will show a lot of self-noise.
@lee8org 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison this where the size matters. I always liked the sound coming out of Tascam product, but with little processing Zoom wins.
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@zaharovevgen6346 Жыл бұрын
In what quality did you record on both recorders?
@user-nu8bf3bf9m 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! Is the high frequency hum issue fixed or is it still a issue?
@jeffparryncc1701 2 жыл бұрын
We will be recording our bands gigs with the X8 (strangely, there is no one recording their band or gig with the X8, on YT anyway, which is very strange) Can you record to a Seagate Expansion Portable Drive 2TB or similar? Thanks.
@nastabiquealjihad8442 2 жыл бұрын
up grade! X8 will save us with 32 float bitrate (dual pre-amp) ...when we make a mistake/slappy capture audio on field,X8 can increase or decrease our capture in editing...no peaking no soft audio anymore.. about the audio quality,its about mic what we use.. thats my opinion...
@yashkummar 2 ай бұрын
What about Zoom H6? Any ideas?
@user-xm6wy9kf5x 11 ай бұрын
When you switch between the two devices, I do not feel that you have switched between them, so I did not notice a noticeable difference between the two recordings
@franklong6269 2 жыл бұрын
I think there would be a huge difference when listening to other genres. Just listen to ambient sounds is not really going to test what the X8 can do. If you are recording several tracks of music in hi-res and using effects and so forth, you will probably find a huge difference between the two recorders.
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe but I don't record music so somebody else could do that test.
@Goat.Herder Жыл бұрын
Listening on DT 770 250's and the sounds is very, very similar on both devices. I think the mics in the H1N are brilliant for such a low budget device. The preamp noise can be a minor problem indoors, but it's nothing a little EQ can't fix. If you need XLR inputs you can just buy an adaptor.
@FreeToUseSounds Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your comment. Yeah I saw a video on KZfaq about an XLR adapter. Also there is a cool 48v converter on the market that you could with an H1n. That makes it perfect for microphones that need phantom power.
@Goat.Herder Жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds I never knew this, that opens up a lot more in the way of mics! Thanks! Do you know what the name of the adaptor is?
@EricLefebvrePhotography 2 жыл бұрын
Over the water: I would have secured the recorder to a safety cord or strap as a secondary safety. I only use a Tascam DR40X but even if I was using a ZOOM H1n or a Tascam DR-05X I would probably still uase a safty cord as a precaution LOL.
@PARKAM_ Жыл бұрын
Harus diberi keterangan pengaturan gain berapa agar kami bisa lebih tahu detailnya.
@delmixedit Жыл бұрын
Think I’m going to pull the trigger on the X8. Way more depth.
@esosarias 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE my Zoom H1N. Saludos desde España!
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah!! :)
@kcluview 2 жыл бұрын
Love the setup @ 06:21!
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah! :)
@balanceisthekey4652 2 жыл бұрын
I think they sounded pretty much the same, I have h1n, I love it need to get out and record more
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah go out and record :)
@samdkmusic 4 күн бұрын
Has anyone compared recordings of the same sound on both devices? I'm curious how the two samples compare x8 vs zoom h6 same sound ? Thx
@wuddlebum 2 жыл бұрын
the question is also: Can you hear a $400 difference? The X8 does have more functionality which cannot be compared to the H1n, but if you just going to use in built mics, the $400 difference is not that obvious (to my ears)
@tuckerbugeater 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta watch that first step getting out of the Bangkok bus.
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Ha Ha hA oh yes. Motorbikes and also don't dream while trying to get off or on. The bus drivers don't wait a single second. :)
@All2jPro 2 жыл бұрын
Great , thanks. Too me the Tascam seems to catch the extreme low freq. rumble….which is actually annoying to listers to, meaning more post production . Probable means WALLA would not sound crispy . I actually prefer the h1n coz. It seems to have great separation, and makes want fish and chips…. So I’m heading to the kitchen listening to those sea gals…
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
@Matthew_Raymond 2 жыл бұрын
I think this shows that there’s something to be said for lighter and cheaper. No matter how good the Tascam is, you’re never going to put a relatively heavy, more expensive recorder in a situation where it could be damaged or lost. That’s not a dig at Tascam. It’s simply a matter of the right tool for the right job.
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Never say never!
@Motionphile 2 жыл бұрын
What settings do you suggest for field recording with Zoom H1n? And also the gain level? Thank you btw, always love your videos!
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
There is no magic number that you could use for setting the gain but I do have a video about setting levels for field recording and talk about this subject. As you adjust the camera shutter or the ISO individually each time you use the camera, it's the same with sound. Always different.
@maximtrianov3661 2 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds what is the name of that video about levels?
@freewheelinghorn 2 жыл бұрын
Does the H1n suffer from the same high frequency hum that the X8 does? Aside from this potential difference, I heard more fine detail from the Tascam's capsules but I preferred the stereo image and frequency response of the Zoom capsules in terms of setting the scene. If it were me I would choose one over the other based on the material and its intended use; for instance, if I were recording a location and intended to use that as a background to sit behind dialogue, I would choose the Zoom so that I would get a nice sense of place but without extraneous details in the sound that could distract from the dialogue. If I were to choose between the two for recording a sound that I wanted to be captured in detail so as to grab the listener's attention, I would choose the Tascam for its superior detail. Of course, these things can be at least partially addressed in post, but one could argue that it's always best to start with the most appropriate material for a given use-case. That's my personal opinion, listening on open-back, planar magnetic headphones.
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and they make absolute sense. With the H1n we don't have the high frequency issues in the 20kHz area. Since the other issues occur above 50kHz and higher, they are cut off anyway because a 96kHz recorder only records up to 48kHz.
@janondra5250 2 жыл бұрын
I was so surprised by the low noise floor of the h1n I had to watch other videos on youtube of recordings with the h1n and the noise floor is significantly louder. Did you do any de-noising in post?
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Jan! You can also watch the video from Istanbul or BKK about the H1n. I don’t process the sounds and never push the gain to create noise.
@grassrunner7983 2 жыл бұрын
Good teacher
@edwardferry8247 Жыл бұрын
The X8 seems to have a thicker sound but picks up everything, it’s very hard to decipher which sound is ‘more important’ … The H1n definitely has more ‘treble’ or gives prominence to thinner detail. If I wanted rich density I would definitely buy the X8 if I wanted bird song alone definitely the H1n, but at only $100 I would now buy them both 😂…
@natboon2811 Жыл бұрын
Bangpoo Thailand?
@james100075 8 ай бұрын
The TASCAM X8 has more depth to its sound. But that's what I can hear over my studio speakers. I guess if you aren't an audiophile, it doesn't really matter as long as you can capture the audio.
@fernandograu6677 Жыл бұрын
X8 definetly sounds better, albeit I have to pay attention to notice, and if I close my eyes I notice immediately (I am listening with the standard pair of Sonys 7506). I have the H1n for a few years and love it, because the weight and size is never a restriction to carry it along with me anywhere. I also imagine that the more modern X8 unit offer professionals much better recording control, options and user interface which may be critical. The small H1n is very sensitive to handling noise; while the X8 may not survive a concrete drop test... the H1n basically just "bounces"... Again, to each its own, for me, amateur guy, H1n offers outstanding price x weight x simplicity value.
@dreamchaser6441 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you get that bag you are using… I’m a videographer/cinematographer that recently became obsessed with clear good sounding audio.. I use a 5.11 24hr bag to haul my equipment.. but I’m looking for one a bit more sturdy
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
You mean to LowePro Tactic? its the version two. I have this one a very long time already.
@AllenCavedo 2 жыл бұрын
You could use a Sescom Bidirectional Stereo Audio Switcher to listen to two recorders on your headphones. B&H has them.
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
I can check if they are somewhere available in Bangkok since we are not in the US.
@AllenCavedo 2 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds I tried posting this same comment previously with a link to B&H but it did not seem to post. So I posted again without the link. Makes me think KZfaq rejects comments with links?
@noth606 11 ай бұрын
To my ears the H1n sounded slightly more detailed in faint sounds, like it picked up more than the X8, but the difference is very small. The X8 sounded ever so slightly warmer to me, again with a small difference. Disregarding the differences in what you can do with the devices and the price, and going purely by sound, I'd pick the Zoom. To put it in subjective words the Zoom sounded more clinically exact, the Tascam more pleasing - which is why I'd pick the Zoom, to build a mood and ambiance you sometimes need sounds to be a bit unpleasant and raw.
@vidworxsfx 2 жыл бұрын
Only real dif I hear is that to me in some of the recordings the Tascam had a little better low end response and sounded less tinny. The birds sounded like they had a tad of distortion on the Zoom while the Tascam sounded a little cleaner. Otherwise they only dif I can see is the fact that the Tascam will surely out shine the H1n when recording very loud sounds like thunder and such ... But for normal everyday recordings on a budget the Zoom is fine.
@FreeToUseSounds 2 жыл бұрын
No distortion because I never hit 0.
@vidworxsfx 2 жыл бұрын
@@FreeToUseSounds Yes I understand that, but it was still not as smooth as the Tascam in my opin, just sounded like very slight distortion in the capsules at some frequencies.
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