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@randomnessrules49715 күн бұрын
"Should I make this weird metagame?" "Sure, knock yourself out."
@Laezar15 күн бұрын
nice
@firemanking32713 күн бұрын
This comment is so good I could faint
@cranapple33673 күн бұрын
Familyguyhaha.mp4
@enigwa32862 күн бұрын
LOL it's hilarious to see this. I'm Adrian Marin, the creator of 'Suicide Cup' (later called The Loser's Game). I'm proud to have created such a cursed metagame 😂
@isaachiltyhilty6804Күн бұрын
@@enigwa3286 not trying to be that guy but how are we supposed to believe you?
@Almond199125 күн бұрын
Even in the intentionally losing category, Calyrex-S is too OP
@wienerrrrrrrrrrr5 күн бұрын
god i hate that stupid horse
@leaDR3565 күн бұрын
Just goes to show how strong the Horse council members are
@misalignedmisanthropist5 күн бұрын
@@leaDR356Calyrex-S is a fraud, he can't even learn High Horsepower
@sidhaarthnair83685 күн бұрын
@@leaDR356he doesn't learn High horsepower so should he be considered in horse council?
@RoninofCrimsonMaple5 күн бұрын
I still stand by that Grim Neigh is close enough to maintain its status as a horse.@@sidhaarthnair8368
@werh2275 күн бұрын
Playing Loser's Game to feel like I'm winning by not using loser strategies and oneshotting everything
@isaacsimpson80985 күн бұрын
It would be pretty fun to see a bottom ladder full of people just doing this lol, playing losers game but both trying to win
@woomyboy984 күн бұрын
@@isaacsimpson8098 technically they would be the true losers by losing at winning by winning which is losing
@isaacsimpson80984 күн бұрын
@@woomyboy98 yes
@aprinnyonbreak12904 күн бұрын
This Broke: Playing Loser's Game to lose, thus winning Woke: Playing Loser's game to win, thus losing Bespoke: Ignoring the conditions of Losers game, and playing it to boost your ego or pull off combos that are too inconsistent to use otherwise, but really cool to pull off Ascended: Funbro in Loser's Game
@jrodd133 күн бұрын
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 Funbro in losers game is just flat out evil 😂
@essentures5 күн бұрын
So I was not bad at Pokémon, I was just playing the wrong format
@ioioi_prx46395 күн бұрын
I'd be a millionaire if I got 100$ after losing
@nellewoodruff63375 күн бұрын
@@essentures Cue that one gen 5 preschooler quote about changing perspective
@tonydai7822 күн бұрын
@@ioioi_prx4639 But then everyone else would just start losing more than you, so you’d still end up broke.
@sunny3545Күн бұрын
You'd still lose (by winning)
@JaxOf73 күн бұрын
"I fainted, making me the victor." "I must apologize for Sandshrew-Alola. He is an idiot. We purposely trained him wrong, as a joke."
@TheInfiniteAmo2 күн бұрын
Quote that film, if you're so great!
@miniyodadude66049 сағат бұрын
@@TheInfiniteAmoKung pow enter the fist
@plhbuschannel5 күн бұрын
Fun Fact: In gen 7, Skill Swap Magic Guard is actually banned because people start running offensive alakazam to kill 5 pokemon and then skill swap magic guard and the opponent literally cannot die with heal pulse support
@olivergro71055 күн бұрын
Well shouldn't they have banned recycle leppa berry instead? :I
@irakyl5 күн бұрын
The fact that you straight up win if you stop just 1 of your opponent's pokemon from dying is what makes this so interesting, for the tourney I was trying to see if I could make it an actual legit playstyle like steel beam and court change but it's too inconsistent. Realizing that you can intentionally faint their problematic pokemon so the final one is exploitable was a eureka moment, but it still wasn't enough.
@FurryCombatWombat5 күн бұрын
Fun fact: as the guy in the video that did this strat, it does *not* stop the hp cut from Curse :/
@ViciadoSocialempires5 күн бұрын
LMAO
@The_Red_Scare3 күн бұрын
What if the opponent had something like Mold Breaker which ignored abilities? Would Mold Breaker on the Alakazam prevent Magic Guard from forcing the opponent to live? And yes, I know they could just switch pokemon, but I'm asking if receiving an ability that ignores other abilities would override the strat if you couldn't switch pokemon for whatever reason.
@muishaggyblanco23495 күн бұрын
Finally… black sludge bisharp is its optimal set
@AMereFool4 күн бұрын
The CTC foresight be shiesty.
@chavonjames89412 күн бұрын
Sticky Barb *Our battle WILL BE LEGENDARY!*
@VerbalLearning4 күн бұрын
When you try to escape Calyrex Shadowrider by playing The Loser's Game. Calyrex Shadowrider: Nah i'd lose.
@500werewolf5 күн бұрын
Praise the almighty Calyrex-S! Even when it loses, it still wins.
@PatrickArcato3 күн бұрын
I really can't like that pokemon, first it doesn't even look like one, second it's designed by 12 year old stoner, way too strong
@SeaOfPixels3 күн бұрын
@@PatrickArcato What seems to be happening is that Gamefreak makes sure to make the latest generation's main important Pokemon blatantly overpowered, so that they stand out in the generation. Sometimes they'll nerf them the next generation so that they don't overshadow the new important Pokemon (Zacian). Seems like they're trying to avoid another Reshiram/Zekrom situation?
@500werewolf2 күн бұрын
@PatrickArcato Agreed, and the fact that the overpowered DLC 'mons from Sword & Shield didn't get nerfed is extremely concerning for where their priorities lie. (Clearly, it's money over game balance.)
@brunoemf905 күн бұрын
I was waiting to hear Freezai do an 180 on his catchphrase “People play to win” when talking about tiers
@meadnex3313 күн бұрын
Hey freeze sauce, ai here. People play to win...but what if they didn't?
@candlecord2 күн бұрын
@@meadnex331 *synth sound followed by drum beat*
@aldrichunfaithful35895 күн бұрын
a few ppl here were talking about endless battles, and it gave me a funny idea for a format which would basically be a race to trigger an endless battle. whoever gets their opponent stuck first wins
@GGreenHeart4 күн бұрын
This would be such a blast!! Shame it would be literally impossible to build a computer to recognize a win 😅 But human refs in a tournament could work!
@aldrichunfaithful35894 күн бұрын
@@GGreenHeart i don't think it's too hard tbh. every endless trapper has to have recycle, heal pulse and a leppa berry, so once you get it going a computer could probably recognise that. the only cringe part would be people denying the loss with timer stall which already happens lol. also now that i'm thinking about it all the trappers would have to click a very telegraphed move that you'd switch out of to trap you, so the game would likely be about killing 5 mons to trap the last which would be pretty boring
@sup37605 күн бұрын
the format where tera ice is strong is the one where you want to lose, thats pretty funny
@PotatoPrem3 күн бұрын
tera ice is strong in normal format too bozo. Bolt-beam regieleki, jolteon, etc
@jebalitabb82282 күн бұрын
@@PotatoPremno one uses those pokemon tho lmfao
@twilightsilver62302 күн бұрын
@jebalitabb8228 a lot of pokemon run Tera Ice offensively in OU, the main examples being Kyurem and Weavile. UU pokemon can run them as well, for example Sandy Shocks, Mamoswine, and famously the Tera Ice Tera Blast Hydrapple Stall that was common on the OU latter a few months ago.
@zdelrod8295 күн бұрын
Heal Pulse is insane in this format. Also, I didn't know Perish Song could be Baton Passed.
@firewall51894 күн бұрын
pokerogue taught me the hard way 😔
@Subugugito4 күн бұрын
@@firewall5189 my reaction when that mf pulls out a spiritomb against my gator (its totover):
@zaleww58243 күн бұрын
All changes except status passes to pokemon
@biospark47582 күн бұрын
I wonder if Pain Split would have a niche here. Run disruption tactics while your opponent is lowering their own HP and then equalize both your health bars
@SmugLookingBarrel5 күн бұрын
I remember trying to make a team around intentionally forcing the Endless Battle Clause game loss, where I would use Block, Fling a Leppa Berry and then Recycle it. Was disappointed when that didn't win me the game.
@Emilia-_.5 күн бұрын
what is endless battle clause?
@electrolapse70985 күн бұрын
@@Emilia-_.Endless battle clause is a clause that bans people from using specific moves that can create an endless battle, like using leppa Berry, fling and recycle. The idea of that is that nobody will run out of pp because the leppa berry will activate. It’s kind of hard to explain in one comment, but Freezai has a good video on it
@Skullhawk134 күн бұрын
@@electrolapse7098why don’t they just ban leppa berry straight up?
@rainbowthedragoncat67684 күн бұрын
@@Skullhawk13 bc you might want to use it for non endless battle purposes
@Skullhawk134 күн бұрын
@@rainbowthedragoncat6768 any examples?
@michabaron41295 күн бұрын
I like the deep dive into an obscure metagame and it was fun trying to come up with my own ideas about the format before learning the truth (i figured out SR court swap yay) but it would he nice to hear a smidge more about the final tournament match than "one guy lost other didnt" lol
@austinish2 күн бұрын
I imagine he didn't elaborate because the format seems a bit boring outside of the concept. The meta strategy says it all: you spam steel beam. The actual strategic bits were explained, but the rest was "player one clicked steel beam, player two clicked switch" for the majority of the battle. Doesn't seem like there's all that much to explain.
@fabian60873 күн бұрын
The stealth rock strategy should be called 'Self-Rock'.
@gregorymirabella14233 күн бұрын
I thought Sandshrew only became steel type after it evolved, I guess I had it mixed up with Vulpix.
@zachpro54755 күн бұрын
Funny uploaded after the meta game was unlisted for latter
@gengarisnotinsmash...5 күн бұрын
Obligatory "Finally, a format I'm good at!" comment.
@razorshell30495 күн бұрын
"Loser's Game" nah nah nah the OG Name is the "Suicide Cup".
@VixstraLarge5 күн бұрын
Ah yes, the chalice laced with cyanide
@zdelrod8295 күн бұрын
@@VixstraLargeBoeing Whistleblower Bash.
@lorekeeper6855 күн бұрын
@@zdelrod829 Like the guy from enumclaw?
@zdelrod8295 күн бұрын
@@lorekeeper685 not that one. The one that was supposed to testify.
@lorekeeper6855 күн бұрын
@@zdelrod829 you mean the recent two
@JavierGomez-px8xh5 күн бұрын
Black sludge bisharp is about to cook↕️↔️
@inferno78924 күн бұрын
It was truly ahead of its time
@tomorchard66603 күн бұрын
Agency intelligence knew
@noxiousroxie3 күн бұрын
I didn’t expect the perish song + Baton LOL
@cryochick90445 күн бұрын
Im surprised torment isn't used. They wanna steel beam spam? They can't use it twice in a row
@underrated15244 күн бұрын
Too slow
@axr17985 күн бұрын
At first I thought that the whole format was going to be about gholdengo and damp pokemon like golduck, but there's a surprising amount of depth, this could actually be an official ruleset.
@jpmac11195 күн бұрын
Playing in this was such a blast! Hope for more weird gimmick events like this in the future
@therealx29073 күн бұрын
This format is just a full on comedy show on my little friend Sandshrew-A
@raywt4 күн бұрын
aww alolan sandshrew is one of my favorite pokemon.. i'm so proud seeing it be the best, even if it's just the best at being the worst
@kemosonicfan123lbp5 күн бұрын
This is like that one chess variant except there's enough layers to it that it's not solved
@davidknopp12085 күн бұрын
OGs remember when it was called Suicide Cup
@TheRageBaiter5 күн бұрын
It sucks that this is a challengeable OM and not an other metagame with a ladder
@Generichoneydew5 күн бұрын
"comment on the video too, thats an order" ON IT BOSS
@warmwater95095 күн бұрын
hear me out on a new tournament format: loser's game, expect that every other battle in the tournament, including the finals, is won by winning, ie making the opponent lose all 6 pokemon. It would be interesting to see teambuilding that's both good at fainting and killing
@almightymudkip38565 күн бұрын
Can’t wait to try Jumpkick recoil strats
@Edujs235 күн бұрын
My mental cook was using Cinderace, a stealth rock mon, and 4 pokémon 4x weak to rock The stealth rock mon uses it, Cinder court change it, and then you just switch your mons arround The rock mon would need a way to ko itself tho
@sarraceniafell5 күн бұрын
found the one who didnt finish the video before commenting
@ohandthefracking5 күн бұрын
@@sarraceniafell LMFAO GAG THEM FOR ME
@leandro-eo7bd5 күн бұрын
watch the vid until the end
@nellewoodruff63375 күн бұрын
My mental cook is rocky helmet, trick, contact multihit turbo. Also could pain split be good?
@tardigrade80195 күн бұрын
@@nellewoodruff6337I also feel like truck leftovers could do something
@Undergroundrising-c4j4 күн бұрын
Black sludge sheninja is peak Paul mentality.
@timskrobot40253 күн бұрын
I'm surprised I didn't hear about the move False Swipe or the Sticky Barb item. If you're forced to attack, false swipe would be a good option and Sticky Barb would be good if there are restrictions on items like Black Sludge.
@baumina17063 күн бұрын
if youre forced to attack, snore always fails (except for a few nice scenarios)
@thecornmaker8495 күн бұрын
You love to see electrode winning
@NagKai_G5 күн бұрын
It was fun playing this tournament and format. I didn't even think about black sludge strats, so i lost on the second game, but i used a stealth rocks comp (although it was very poorly made as i created the team minutes before the tournament) with shadow tag gothita to lock a mon that couldn't easily die by itself after i set up stealth rocks and heal pulse + taunt till gothita dies. Very poorly explained but at least i won 2/3 games (1 win in tournament and another in post tournament game)
@majorhoolahan4 күн бұрын
I never thought I'd hear about a metagame so fundamentally hilarious.
@blueice79062 күн бұрын
This is the single most funny pokemon video and I’m in suprised I never heard
@nickhelmer3 күн бұрын
Hi Jump Kick seems like the anti Calyrex tech. Also I imagine Trick + Leftovers would be interesting countermeta
@Ufo3208_5 күн бұрын
Dude I had so much fun in this tournament, but sadly lost to the guy who ended up winning the whole thing by me throwing a little bit 😅
@eeveewithcoffee95545 күн бұрын
I wonder if court change could be useful. Like switching stealth rock to a full rock double weak team that uses eject button
@eeveewithcoffee95545 күн бұрын
I swear I commented this like a minute before that part came up
@agisuru2 күн бұрын
I'd like to point out that Knock Off's item removal is still relevant in this meta, and Tera Ghost, in addition to the curse thing, has the more niche interaction of making you weak to Knock Off, potentially getting you KOd faster.
@Siinory5 күн бұрын
FINALLY!! A category for me! 8D
@Flygoniaks3 күн бұрын
For those who just want the answer to the title: Alolan Sandshrew is so good in this format because it has the lowest Special Attack of any Pokémon that can learn Steel Beam. Since Steel Beam does recoil damage equal to half the user's max HP, it's a staple in this format, and Sandshrew can ensure that you don't kill your opponents faster than yourself.
@ktvx.942 күн бұрын
Even when you're trying to lose, fairies are still top tier
@diduoup7407Күн бұрын
Pretty proud of myself for thinking about the stealth rock court change beford you mentioned it
@slushbucket7075 күн бұрын
finally a metagame where my goat Klefki is good
@DiegoG20043 күн бұрын
How am i not shocked that even losing is hyper optimized to basically one strategy
@luislaracuente5 күн бұрын
This is fun and creative!
@Yas-gu1pj5 күн бұрын
İ feel like this video should have been a freezai live video
@PrivateUser16674 күн бұрын
I have never heard Steel Beam so much in my Life
@emilygordbort73005 күн бұрын
I was instructed by Freezai's discord to watch and comment
@thatmspaintgirl3 күн бұрын
If there was a held item that dealt damage to your Pokemon upon entering (which you'd think there would be by now) you could win in ONE turn by just using self destruct into 5 Shedinjas carrying it. Now THAT'S what I call efficient.
@38mb.16 сағат бұрын
Both shedinja and selfdestruct are banned he literally tells you this in the first minute of the video
@FishGamingReal4 күн бұрын
Cant wait for the day Freezai popularizes Balanced Hackmons and I can say I was there "before it was cool"
@FunniClapboard3 күн бұрын
Electrode with self-destruct 💀
@guntergunter27504 күн бұрын
I missed the time he talked about sandsrew, you know, the pokemon in the titel!
@leaDR3565 күн бұрын
My awful plays will make me win (lose) in this game too 💀
@DoggyP003 күн бұрын
baton passing perish song is so funny
@aquageist2 күн бұрын
I imagine if self destructs were allowed, you'd have people using some Damp pokemon to counter it.
@E4439Qv52 күн бұрын
Quagsire meta is back...
@analoghabits92175 күн бұрын
another ruleset could be your opponent uses the team you bring
@ashross58604 күн бұрын
Kinda want to see a primary flying/grassy terrain combo being used to losing game equivalent of sand/hail chip
@PatJamma15 сағат бұрын
I would have lost horribly because my first thought was Dry Skin in the sun
@byrontheusurper6505Күн бұрын
You can baton pass perish song!? That's CRAZY!
@zEr-ne5ri5 күн бұрын
When first hearing in this intro I thought I was having a stroke.
@ashtonoak43705 күн бұрын
id use a mons magic bounce to give my own side hazards
@Zorin14 күн бұрын
Still interesting to see the sweaty strats in a meme format
@dinoooooomКүн бұрын
On the topic of weird strats, would wonder skin be optimal in that format? Being able to mess with heal pulse/taunt acc could be intresting to watch. Venomoth isnt great, but it gets sleep powder, baton pass and disable, so maybe?
@meguy77355 күн бұрын
This is awesome
@untossablesalad44232 күн бұрын
Could you make a playlist with videos of yours that are like this? :)
@BDAShadow1Күн бұрын
I think the coolest part about this is there's no sweeping so there can't be any blowouts from 1 or 2 decisions.
@esrohm64603 күн бұрын
i wonder if you could make a stall team in this so that you can stall out your opponents ways to die and when they start to struggle is that recoil slower than whatever other method you use. or if we want to be funky try to get a last pokemon scenario and then get on that pokemon normalize while having a ghost team/terra ghost.
@GeorgMaUlWurfКүн бұрын
the perish song baton pass lmao
@et34t34fdf4 күн бұрын
This is hilarious.
@TTLunar5 күн бұрын
Yo waddup here for support
@Brandon_Hardie3 күн бұрын
FINALLY A W FOR MY BOY ALOLAN SANDSHREW
@ashtonoak43705 күн бұрын
i guess because id never do it, but never knew baton pass could pass perish song till now, and i now also see how i blew one of my pokerouge runs as i didnt know HOW perish song killed me after i baton passed out
@lilfrogman03953 күн бұрын
I'm surprised pain split isn't used bc if you use it on a low hp mon you heal them while you drop. Especially if at full hp idk might be a sleeper pick
@gravityvertigo135794 күн бұрын
Finally... The time of Sandshrew is at hand...
@anonanim-96012 күн бұрын
This would a cool april fool's day exclusive event
@clementmariette7059Күн бұрын
"You guys are trying?" me playing smogon
@Arcanine19955 күн бұрын
'free' and 'doesn't cost anything' mean the same thing
@Blanktester6855 күн бұрын
incorrect
@ShinyCyndaquil35 күн бұрын
@@Blanktester685please elaborate
@jqvy5 күн бұрын
L take
@imapaincake23055 күн бұрын
You have free space on your phone You have "doesn't cost anything" space in your phone. It wouldn't cost you anything to do more chores!! It would be free to you to do more chores!!
@ShinyCyndaquil35 күн бұрын
@@imapaincake2305 I understand what you mean but in this context wouldn’t it just be a case of one word having multiple meanings.
@sloowbroo5 күн бұрын
Me when Freezai tells me to comment on his video (its an order)
@DragonWingShardКүн бұрын
exactly what i want to hear about my favourite pokemon 😭
@Timeflow_X5 күн бұрын
I've actually been hoping someone would cover the loser's game so much because I don't have a good handle on the meta just from the forums
@justme143575 күн бұрын
Sounds fun
@mjdxp56885 күн бұрын
Ah yes, of course: The best Pokémon are Calyrex-S and Sandshrew. Seems legit.
@user-yu8vu9xu5n5 күн бұрын
great video
@byrontheusurper6505Күн бұрын
What an awesome format
@plaguekidd69024 күн бұрын
I love sandshrew of any kind. Just a cute little critter that you love to see winning- I mean losing.
@Zoroarkarceus1235 күн бұрын
Mime Jr. would probably be a nice niche pick if it was available, because it can get Soundproof and Skill Swap and do what Clefable does but for Perish Song users. Plus, it's weak to Steel Beam, so hey
@xian2themax5 күн бұрын
I play this mode with court change stealth rock and then the rest of my Pokémon 4x weak to rock. If the opponent has defog it’s tough, but if they don’t it’s an easy win
@leonshirogane55414 күн бұрын
Calyrex shadow still at the top even when you play to lose.
@sagacious034 күн бұрын
Another neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading! Although, this meta sounds a little centralized, no?
@shuckeegamingКүн бұрын
*Finally* This format was made for me!
@Excellsion4 күн бұрын
Now this is podracing.
@SoftwareLearningify2 күн бұрын
One of my favorite Pokémon is sandshrew. I don’t know if I should be happy or sad about it’s viability