Friction Welding on the Lathe Experiment

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Wright Machining

Wright Machining

Жыл бұрын

Experimenting, we take different types of metal and friction weld them togeather on the lathe , by trial and error i show how i get a good result that bond togeather and stand up to a bend test

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@capin232
@capin232 Жыл бұрын
This is very interesting, hopefully I get to do some testing before I actually have to use this technique. Keep up the great videos, Brian
@Wrighmachining
@Wrighmachining Жыл бұрын
Let us know what you learn when you do buddy .
@dannywilsher4165
@dannywilsher4165 Жыл бұрын
This is an interesting process. I commented on someone's channel a week or so back about how I had pretty good success with this technique. You were on the same track with the bevel and I think if you would have slowed the pressure on that one like you did on the later ones, it would have worked much better. What I did was drill a small hole in one side and a corresponding size stick out on the other one and use just enough pressure to get lots of heat a good ways back and then get it red and then back off. I found the least pressure I could use but still get the heat worked best for me. I also wanted to cut or grind the piece horizontal (parallel to the rod) to see what was happening on the inside but never got around to doing it...
@Wrighmachining
@Wrighmachining Жыл бұрын
Awesome input Danny thank you , I think I will build off some of your suggestions next time
@shawnmrfixitlee6478
@shawnmrfixitlee6478 Жыл бұрын
I gotta try this method .. Been turning for years and have heard of it but you vid explained it best.. new sub here ,, I have a channel as well . Merry Christmas !
@Wrighmachining
@Wrighmachining Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video. It takes a bit of playing around to get it to work well. Some guys will put it in the tool post as well. Once it starts to weld it will grab hard. . Just make sure you don't get wrapped into the lathe. :)
@shawnmrfixitlee6478
@shawnmrfixitlee6478 Жыл бұрын
@@Wrighmachining for sure .. I have a live bearing chuck like yours , just a matter of knowing when to let go, thanks
@eg6sivtec
@eg6sivtec Жыл бұрын
Hey there! Great channel ! Subscribed!
@Wrighmachining
@Wrighmachining Жыл бұрын
Thanks jërémi, glad to have you :)
@bahmanasgari3370
@bahmanasgari3370 Ай бұрын
Good job👍
@Wrighmachining
@Wrighmachining Ай бұрын
Thx buddy
@tpchlu
@tpchlu 2 ай бұрын
The success depends on not only the RPM, but also on the pre heat process, the pressure and time that you push two rods together and the flatness of the surfaces on ends of two rods. Different materials can be welded together easily, either two metals or one metal with one non-metal (plastic).
@Wrighmachining
@Wrighmachining 2 ай бұрын
Thank you tpchlu , there are definarly a few variables with tgis process . Plastice ..... i hadnt thought of that . Good point
@randallsemrau6911
@randallsemrau6911 7 ай бұрын
Brass is self lubricating, maybe thats why it won't friction weld. Isn't that why it's often utilized as material for the nut in lead screw assemblies?
@Wrighmachining
@Wrighmachining 7 ай бұрын
Very possible :)
@stevesrt8
@stevesrt8 Жыл бұрын
That’s pretty cool. Are you just learning or do you have some project in mind?
@Wrighmachining
@Wrighmachining Жыл бұрын
I have the odd job, here and there . Just repaied a delt table saw for a friend that had the 3/8 shaft broken off .
@MBTechnicalClasses
@MBTechnicalClasses Жыл бұрын
Intrested process
@Wrighmachining
@Wrighmachining Жыл бұрын
It is and has its place on fixing small shafts . Larger would take a higher amount of hp and could be harder on the machine . May try 1 inch at some point but busy with finishing up the summer . Sept will be a big month for mor projects
@wantafastz28
@wantafastz28 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see it’s not as easy as others make it to be. What is the minimum hp needed you think?
@Wrighmachining
@Wrighmachining Жыл бұрын
Im not sure th hp . My 3hp lathe you can hear working on the 1/4 to 3/8 stock im guessing say 1 hp min for that size . I would love it if other guys can try it as well and let us know
@tharoncesselli7162
@tharoncesselli7162 Жыл бұрын
Did not know this was a thing till now !
@Wrighmachining
@Wrighmachining Жыл бұрын
Pretty dar cool buddy !
@roscoepatternworks3471
@roscoepatternworks3471 Жыл бұрын
Interesting, have no use for it yet. I wonder if copper would friction weld? Could be that brass is enough of an alloy it won't weld. Good video
@Wrighmachining
@Wrighmachining Жыл бұрын
Maby . My thought was that it was drawing away to much heat. The alum has a much lower melting point and the brass a high point with a hight conductivity. Luck for me i dont work in brass very often . Perhaps i sould try spme copper pipe though
@Niels_Dn
@Niels_Dn Жыл бұрын
@@Wrighmachining I thought the same on the brass.
@roscoepatternworks3471
@roscoepatternworks3471 Жыл бұрын
@@Wrighmachining i found this: What metals can be friction welded? Materials Weldable by Friction Stir Aluminium. ... Magnesium. ... Copper and copper alloys. ... Hafnium and zirconium. ... Inconel and superalloys. ... Steel and ferrous alloys. ... Titanium. ... Dissimilar materials.
@roscoepatternworks3471
@roscoepatternworks3471 Жыл бұрын
@@Niels_Dn i found a website, may be out of luck on welding brass, due to zinc evaporation.
@Wrighmachining
@Wrighmachining Жыл бұрын
@@roscoepatternworks3471 zink evaporating , awsome idea . Makes sence in a way . Perhaps the zink is drawn out in some way and oxidizes as it decays or evap ? I should test this theory with some copper . If the copper does the same it would be conduction if it welds it would afirm this theory more .
@mitchumsport
@mitchumsport Ай бұрын
the zinc in the brass is messing with you. its melting out / being pushed out of the contact area I think. some kinds of brass have different content, i.e. some silicon which would make them weld a bit better or differently
@Wrighmachining
@Wrighmachining Ай бұрын
I like your perspective makes sence
@jamallwilliams5852
@jamallwilliams5852 2 ай бұрын
It’s because brass is softer
@Wrighmachining
@Wrighmachining 2 ай бұрын
Very possible , but the alu would weld realy well . One guy sugested flux as an issue . Perhaps more experimenting some day
@jamallwilliams5852
@jamallwilliams5852 2 ай бұрын
@@Wrighmachining would love to see it🙏
@IonIon-wc6pc
@IonIon-wc6pc Жыл бұрын
Rpm???
@Wrighmachining
@Wrighmachining Жыл бұрын
I did it between 800-1500 rpm. It's takes lots of speed and power
@michaelallen1432
@michaelallen1432 2 ай бұрын
Try some brazing flux
@Wrighmachining
@Wrighmachining 2 ай бұрын
I had not thought of that. Good point
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