FRIEDMAN BE MINI VS DIEZEL VH MICRO

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FRIEDMAN BE MINI VS DIEZEL VH MICRO

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2 жыл бұрын

Just a quick test trying these two small assholes and comparing them. The Friedman BE mini and the Diezel VH Micro.
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@OlaEnglund 2 жыл бұрын

Lets compare stuff... HELLO!

@izdied 2 жыл бұрын

diezel vh 4 vs diezel vh micro

@nikolailkvik9075 2 жыл бұрын

Boss ns-2 vs isp decimator 2

@ascar66 2 жыл бұрын

Have you tried best russian amps? I mean yerasov

@marxiuszmm9334 2 жыл бұрын

Love all ur videos big brother ola , I bought all the guitar and amps and effects from ur reviews keep rocking stay metal forever ! From Bangkok , looking for ur new models from solar dealer in Thailand !

@onionheadguy7094 2 жыл бұрын

@niektenbrinke5733 2 жыл бұрын

I believe they're not actually mini versions of the large amps but rather amp versions of their major drive pedals (BE-OD Deluxe channel or Dirty Shirley and Diezel VH4 Pedal)

@MrThunders66 2 жыл бұрын

Perfectly said my friend

@ryinrumery2124 2 жыл бұрын

that's correct. they are the OD pedals with a small solid state power amp in front of them.

@darklinkduck2275 2 жыл бұрын

@@ryinrumery2124 you mean behind them the pedal would be a preamp and then you would need a power amp to drive a speaker

@tommilitello198 2 жыл бұрын

Which are pedal versions of the preamp in the bigger amps,so they are mini versions just solid state

@niektenbrinke5733 2 жыл бұрын

@@tommilitello198 still disagreed :) because the technology used is quite different, also sounds different than the real amps

@grumpyrocker 2 жыл бұрын

I've got the Diezel model. It's ridiculous how good it sounds. Lots of fun.

@mitchthegreat 2 жыл бұрын

Joyo zombie II gang checking in here

@lilhollywood3977 2 жыл бұрын

could you tell me the model name or number please?

@4.9turbo13 2 жыл бұрын

The Joyo heads are super dope. Got the Firebrand and the Zombie, theyre both amazing

@jgmopar 2 жыл бұрын

I got one not expecting much. but dam it does sound really good.

@terminalglimmer 2 жыл бұрын

Aw man, I wish these were two channel. Really like the sounds you got out of em!

@GunnarLoeb 2 жыл бұрын

I was looking at these yesterday so this video is perfect. Thanks!

@gorf101 2 жыл бұрын

To this day that gold solar has been my favorite and those two mini amps have that cool oversaturated growl .. perfect combo

@sinisterminister9920 2 жыл бұрын

I have the Bogner. And I love it. Definitely small and only 30w, the tone is fantastic. I’m not going to knock the upper gain stages for being muddy. With an overdrive you won’t need to max out the gain anyway. The quality of the distortion though, is lovely🥰

@jakkhazzard 2 жыл бұрын

How awesome for young people today to have these as an option. In my day you could choose Peavey or Crate and everything was 100 lbs.

@sheldonwright8770 2 жыл бұрын

Were so Spoilt these days!

@PaulEubanks 2 жыл бұрын

And sounded like ass! Would've been awesome to have this 20 years ago.

@jakkhazzard 2 жыл бұрын

@@PaulEubanks I had a peavey Rage 158 that I carried around to practices. I couldn't figure out how to get it to sound good (play better) and then I was onto a Crate 212. Just as terrible (playing).

@PaulEubanks 2 жыл бұрын

@@jakkhazzard Oh yeah, I think everyone of a certain age has used the solid state, open-back Crate 2x12 combo. I'm just glad there's not much recorded music out there where they were used. :D

@algrundau9441 2 ай бұрын

@@PaulEubanks Glenn Fricker did a show on one of those old Crate heads...Those with a Metal Zone or a Peavey Bandit were, believe it or not used by a lot of those Scandinavian Death Metal Bands at Midnight Sun Studio's...Everything eventually finds a home.

@priorwitness 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for yet another entertaining video, Ola!

@Firehawk-205 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ola from NY, USA. I ordered the Diezel VH mini. I played a real VH4 and was very impressed the the thick tone and gain !! My Charvel Hendrik is going to pair up very nice w/the mini. . .plenty loud enough at home.

@flprmn9448 4 ай бұрын

Did you like it finally?

@CrushingAxes 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds good dude! Both sound amazing!

@legion7478 2 жыл бұрын

So it's a mini series. Clever Ola. Very clever

@beaud4474 2 жыл бұрын

Love the channel. Thanks Ola

@gussauve6926 2 жыл бұрын

They actually sound good for little amps I think I’ll get one for home instead of plugging in my big amp

@alexskibicki2262 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, ola. 😎🤘🏻🎸 both amps sound good, but if I had to choose, I would go with diezel amp.

@Eric_01 2 жыл бұрын

I've got those plus the Bogner. Don't be cheap, just do it. It's fun.

@triledink 2 жыл бұрын

We need an ultimate test with joyo zombie, friedman mini, diezel mini, h&k spirit of metal and orange dark mini.

@riffrigerator666 2 жыл бұрын

Spirit of rock sounds better and more "Metal" compared to the Spirit of Metal, that one is just a fuzzy mess, i own both and never use the Metal one..

@rmp5s 2 жыл бұрын

The way you say "mee-knee" makes me chuckle...it's almost as good as how you say "firdy" instead of "thirty". Never change, Ola. 😆

@blickfang3751 6 ай бұрын

0:11 that all I needed to hear. Tack Ola!

@BalashToth 2 жыл бұрын

They both sound good. It seems to me the Friedman sounds a bit better on its own than the Diezel on its own. But with the TS i found the Diezel slightly better. Great video

@ConspiracyRangr 2 жыл бұрын

Love your videos man! I played many years ago with a an old Crate G1500 solid state amp. I stopped playing years ago, but after watching many of your videos, I dusted off the guitars, and the 34 YEAR OLD AMP! Lol - The amp is SHIT, so I just ordered an EVH 5150 iii, 50 watt with cabinet! Thanks Ola for inspiring me to get my shit together and play again! Thanks for all you do for the community and I truly love your show! Ordered a coffee with Ola shirt too 🤣🤘🏻🔥

@ShannonFrailey 2 жыл бұрын

Good choice of amp. Enjoy!

@mogwix 2 жыл бұрын

I'm laughing so hard at this comment. Back when I was playing in bands in the mid naughts, the G1500 was like, THE amp I'd see at every shitty home studio + Ibanez TB100H and Laney GH120. We'd get offered some "studio time" and the guy would be like "don't worry about gear bro we got everything you need" and you show up to this dude's house and it's like ... a mackie console with radio shack mics and the fuckin' CRATE G1500. Also what an upgrade. the 5150III slays.

@ConspiracyRangr 2 жыл бұрын

@@mogwix thanks man! Yea and now mine has shorts in the volume knobs, shorts in the EQ knobs and sounds WAY fucked lol. Worse than a typical G1500 haha. But in like 1987 this thing was cool AF lol. It’s time to permanently retire it lmao My EVH arrives Friday and I can’t WAIT!

@grumpygrandpagaming1975 2 жыл бұрын

Isn't it nice when you're older and can afford better gear? I didn't play for years until a I played with a friends Dual Rectifier. Now I play all the time with a tiny terror Jim Root. Better amps make a world of difference

@ConspiracyRangr 2 жыл бұрын

@@grumpygrandpagaming1975 yea and I can’t wait to fire this up tomorrow!

@Ryan_Messenger 2 жыл бұрын

@3:45 I think what you're trying to say is as you boost the wattage, the amp looses headroom and becomes wonky in the low end due to the extra gain. Low wattage amps sound great with lower volume levels, I've had problems using a 45 watt solid state amp with a drummer. Next time in that scenario, I'm going to mic the cab and turn that up so I get the amp's best possible tone going in. Skal, Ola!! \m/

@Metalbass1979 2 жыл бұрын

This is the video I've been waiting for! Now please do the Bogner Ecstacy Mini...... and compare it. 😉

@cta.k.a.barrychan2460 2 жыл бұрын

Any chance you will do another stereo amps sort of deal but with these? Maybe a small series kind of thing? Love the vid btw!

@aramiscruz4771 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ola for avoiding me to get any of these things :)

@resington 2 жыл бұрын

Friedman has the edge!

@rocknroll2199 2 жыл бұрын

Find and compare, yes! What are the options to get a Dumble amp sound/clone/pedal? Maybe do a video identifying those and sample a few. R.I.P Howard Dumble.

@EHou01 2 жыл бұрын

I picked up the Diezel mini. It's a nice amp. I run an EQ through the fx loop and it chugs hard. BUT ... it doesn't chug much harder than my cheapo $35 Tantrum distortion pedal running in the front of a cheapo Acoustic 120H head. :)

@Asgutenasen 2 жыл бұрын

With the Overdrive they are a total different beast! 🤘🏼

@idiotburns 2 жыл бұрын

Nice guitar center wall!!

@youWoNtLikeMe04 2 жыл бұрын

Adding a post 5 band in front and a parametric in the effects loop would help to isolate the muddy frequencies.... maybe.. if not you'd have the pedals when you get a good tube amp.

@elisertell2006 2 жыл бұрын

I was really surprised by the Friedman and how much it chugged!!

@haydenabrahams4074 2 жыл бұрын

I've tried a Friedman and don't mind it. Never tried a Deizel, but I hear more fuzz from it in your test.

@glenkepic3208 2 жыл бұрын

Pretty cool amps. Can't help but think old guy/new guy offerings. Being old (64), i like the Friedman. TS woke it up.

@Cthulhu_Awaken 2 жыл бұрын

I think the Friedman is a little more resonant than the Diezel or it's just the latter that has a very effective treble pot, you can hear as soon as you turned it up it added so many treble frequencies.

@fateunleashed9680 2 жыл бұрын

This is a classic demo of why circuit design is the signature of any amp. These being transistor driven with similar circuits as the OG's the differences are small across the models as digital components are more consistent in their tolerances per part. The analogue parts in larger amps will have greater variance to the same parts let alone different parts unit to unit, which is what gives more character with the same signal in the larger amps and why transistors all sound samey as they're too consistent and have too few of the flaws that tubes have that make the character that musicians love. Great video Ola and keep chugging more videos like these out!

@searchiemusic Жыл бұрын

transistors aren't digital, they're as analog as tubes and tape machines

@magnuspauli 2 жыл бұрын

These would be great as combo amps, but still with speaker out jacks - or an hardwired internal speaker with an extra speaker out jack that killed the internal speaker.

@dirtyfingers3155 2 жыл бұрын

Nice jam!

@andreasasector1906 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Ola, i think you're absolutely right. But in my opinion the Bogner Version ist the one of the three wich sounds a little more versatile. You can see and hear it in Rabea Massads Video ;)

@SeBsIs666 2 жыл бұрын

Gotta just love playing around with Microamps 😀

@jwelliott74 Жыл бұрын

Fair and balanced as usual. What is the noise gate you have in the loop?

@VapnFagan 2 жыл бұрын

those little heads would be cool for running a stereo rig at home

@silentshred5483 2 жыл бұрын

My Thoughts as well ; )

@StuntcatTV 2 жыл бұрын

Why are you called Fappin Vegan?

@jacktowers7533 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been working on buying the 4 mini amps (Diezel, Bogner, Friedman, Soldano) and putting them in one full size head box with individual speaker outs for the 4x12 Like shrek and onions my tone needs Layers

@specialgoldenkitten750 2 жыл бұрын

Everything sounds good through the Mesa 4 x 12.

@Alfredo78666 2 жыл бұрын

Once again, unprocessed, uncompressed, Bola Englund!

@yunamadsimackomen881 3 ай бұрын

“No condom” 😂 killed me there

@stug5041 2 жыл бұрын

They sound quite similar; almost as if the BE is equivalent to turning up the mids on the Diezel (or vice versa). They do use the same platform so maybe not super shocking, but it’s a shame considering how different the tube heads are

@Dimiguitar 2 жыл бұрын

Even the tube heads imo would be closer to what people think at times.

@AT-wl9yq 2 жыл бұрын

@Varity Topic That's exactly right, and here's why. If you push a tube with gain until it distorts, the distortion is even order. This type of distortion typically sounds good. When you push a transistor to distort, it creates odd order distortion. This is not pleasing to the ear at all. Solid state has to emulate what tubes do naturally, and its a big challenge.

@AT-wl9yq 2 жыл бұрын

@REVOLUTION TV They don't sound the same, and they don't feel the same to play. I took part in some blind testing over the last 6 months, or so. Everyone was able to tell which amps were real tubes 100%. I'm sure modeling amps will keep getting better, but for now, I'll stick with tubes.

@charleswisconsin9196 Жыл бұрын

@@AT-wl9yq that even and odd order distortion thing is a total myth. bias fluctuations and topology have way more to do with anything.

@AT-wl9yq Жыл бұрын

@@charleswisconsin9196 You're leaving some important information out of your post. "that even and odd order distortion thing is a total myth." That's a guess. If I asked you to show me some credible references so I could look into the matter myself, you can't do that. "bias fluctuations and topology have way more to do with anything." Again, I have no idea where you would get that from. If your bias if fluctuating, you need to turn it off and have it repaired.

@ScottVonHeldt 2 жыл бұрын

The Bogner Mini is the best of the 3 in my humble opinion. I own the Diesel and the Bogner Mini and love them both but the Bogner is the bomb!

@crsofteu1365 2 жыл бұрын

this vid shows pretty impressive how important a good cab is :D

@sutach 2 жыл бұрын

The same size, weight, price, sounds quite similar. They also have bogner mini, I'm pretty sure it's sounds nice too.

@travisgularte4792 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah baby!! Love it!!! 😎🤘🏻😜

@marvintimke3978 2 жыл бұрын

1:52 You don't really need 30 watts for just home use. In my opinion.

@bw1955 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I don’t really understand the purpose of these. Too quiet for band, too loud for home. Plus they don’t sound that good lol. I see a purpose for small tube heads but not these.

@okioki1131 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Ola, do you ever plan on releasing Solar guitars with a different shape neck, versus the C-shape? Thanks!

@pajmanj Жыл бұрын

Do you think one of these would be good as a backup for main amp for gigs, especially if mic'd up through PA? Thx.

@AleArzMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comparison, I am actually buying a BE after this

@irishRocker1 2 жыл бұрын

get a dsl1

@PooNinja 2 жыл бұрын

Oooh seeing this makes me wanna feed them both from an abY switch and power each side with a stereo 412 cab? Blended 🤘🏽

@HAHb-zc2dp 2 ай бұрын

Do NOT do that

@PooNinja 2 ай бұрын

@@HAHb-zc2dp your right we really need a third 1/2 stack to act as the center channel! WDW fo life!

@zachary963 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly love that Diezel. Holy smokes

@markvandergiessen3158 2 жыл бұрын

Prefer the Diezel in this video, nice comparison. Considering I am already using the Orange Pedal Baby 100 (powering HX stomp) as my pedal platform though, I would just grab the VH4 pedal.

@NeverWillWeRest 2 жыл бұрын

What a time to be alive \m/

@woodward_alan 2 жыл бұрын

Since these are solid state, why not make these with a 200 watt class d? With the size of the powerstage 170, it shouldn't a problem to put more juice in these to push a cab.

@brandonmendenhall5052 2 жыл бұрын

Ola are you going to demo the Bogner model? Waiting on your take on it

@liorlivyatan 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Compare it to the VH4 Pedal as well! :)

@SpectreFleet 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly was struggling to hear either of them chug until you got to the Diezel near the end.... I know what I'd buy.

@smoreshaunted 2 жыл бұрын

The TS9 was my first overdrive and is still my favorite to this day! Dial back your amp's gain a lot and use a bit of drive from the TS9 with the level also dialed back some to control the noise. It's just got such a good sounding drive while a lot of other even more expensive overdrive's gain introduce so many artifacts(blips/ringing/static) I've noticed Another cool thing about the TS9 is that it doesn't saw your low end in half!!

@Mini1124 2 жыл бұрын

Consider checking out the Plumes from EQD. It’s not a copy of a TS but more so inspired by it with 3 different forms of clipping. I love mine, waaaaay more versatile than a TS9.

@smoreshaunted 2 жыл бұрын

@@Mini1124 I will absolutely check it out! I have lots of different overdrives but not a lot of the more obscure one's. Also, keep in mind that simplicity is sometimes better than being versatile/having more options. For example, a pedal with ONE function might be better at it's job than say a SD Palladium gain stage where the boost function on that thing is completely useless!! Just a thought. I would love to try the Plumes

@charleswisconsin9196 Жыл бұрын

actually sawing the low end in half is almost exactly what it does, and why it's useful. with the tone maxed it's nothing more than a 720hz high pass.

@jmabs5096 2 жыл бұрын

Could you run these little amp into a loop of a boss katana 100? Basically running these like a pedal and just using the katanas power amp??

@valendis 2 жыл бұрын

Ok it sounds great, especially the Friedman but we have to remember it's played on an oversized Mesa, hence the great sound ^^

@adamd2487 2 жыл бұрын

I would like to see some really budget rig video. I'm using Hotone Siva Boogie (only clean ch 5W) and used MXR Fullbore metal in FX loop. It's powering Harley Benton Cab with V30 in it (cab is imo most important for tone). It's yet the best rig I have used and would recommend it to every bedroom/apartment player that have to be concern about being too loud.

@adamd2487 2 жыл бұрын

Best part of Hotone Siva Boogie is that with 5W I have FX loop so I can use any preamp like pedal to get the tone that I like.

@tvnja 2 жыл бұрын

Will you review the Friedman's Pink Taco and the Brown Eye?

@Zwidawurzn 2 жыл бұрын

if they had a clean channel aswell i'd totally buy one.

@Professional.Bro.777 2 жыл бұрын

What do you think about Nolly's new manson guitar?

@jwe88lc 2 жыл бұрын

Ola will you be testing the new PreSonus AudioBox Go audio interface?

@TomiDee1 2 жыл бұрын

Diezel - Mesa (some rectifier there), Friedman - Marshall (JCM 800). Greetings.

@cflowers69 2 жыл бұрын

Wonder how these would be if ran through the effects loop of a 100w head…..

@brianfoskett4410 Жыл бұрын

The Fact That You Said "SH!T" TWICE, Says it All! Thanks for the Top Notch Review.

@matthewlewis281 2 жыл бұрын

The soldano mini sounds very good

@crazeyjoe 2 жыл бұрын

Will it be ditto for the Soldano mini???

@jesseyasaitis9036 2 жыл бұрын

How about this for a test, the HV-4 pedal through your Seymour Duncan Power stage vs the HV4 Mini amp. Then the BEOD into the power stage vs the BE mini?

@danmorrison8746 2 жыл бұрын

^this

@malettastudios9416 2 жыл бұрын

Lets get some more members on here!!!!!!

@DamienChrist 2 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah!

@irishRocker1 2 жыл бұрын

Would have been interesting to throw in a DSL1 for comparison to a small sized tube amp. These are more expensive than the DSL1.

@saltyapostle44 2 жыл бұрын

Friedman always has really pleasant distortion

@charleswisconsin9196 Жыл бұрын

they're both very interesting circuits, the Diezel uses less gain stages at higher gain, but technically uses a softer zener distortion, while on the other hand the Friedman uses more stages at less gain with regular diodes. there are also different frequency cuts along the way. it just really goes to show topology can really make a difference.

@biebiekei3798 2 жыл бұрын

Ola could you try Bogner amps please?

@cabbycabby1770 2 жыл бұрын

Lemme know when we get a JCM900 micro.

@abunai.j 2 жыл бұрын

I like the BE waaaaaaay better on its own, but if I were putting one into a mix, it'd be the Diezel.

@HerrmannThompson 2 жыл бұрын

You need to do the Bogner ecstasy mini!

@DerJayger 2 жыл бұрын

The Diezel has the nicest fizz I've ever heared (I don't like fizzy distortion normally). It's a growling fizz... What's going on there?

@denverrandy7143 2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree Ola,Grainy yes...Friedman wins by just a little.👍🤘

@TheSpineSplitter1990 2 жыл бұрын

An HM-2 into either one would be sick!

@nathanhyde2079 2 жыл бұрын

You could play a mandolin through an HM2 and it would sound sick

@charleswisconsin9196 Жыл бұрын

well, some might disagree, but it certainly would get you that tone if that's what you're into. i like me a good hm2 so don't get me wrong.

@bischteinjohn5998 2 жыл бұрын

Yes they chug !!

@jessehutchings 2 жыл бұрын

They even look almost identical if you remove the logos .. However, I think they both sounded surprisingly good

@dolguldur4706 2 жыл бұрын

Modern amp is superb..even the small size,is good...technology have come so far in amps industry...nowadays,you dont need to buy bigger amp,more expensive amp to get nive sounding amp..