Frigg and Freyja

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Jackson Crawford

Jackson Crawford

5 жыл бұрын

A look at the two most prominent Norse goddesses and the question of whether they might have been considered the same at some places and times, plus some thoughts about our sources and their limitations.
Dr. Jackson Crawford is Instructor of Nordic Studies and Nordic Program Coordinator at the University of Colorado Boulder (formerly UC Berkeley and UCLA). He is a historical linguist and an experienced teacher and translator of Old Norse, Modern Icelandic, and Norwegian.
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@MisterBones223
@MisterBones223 3 жыл бұрын
Your denial of being Indiana Jones makes me feel like you're really Indiana Jones
@SolNaciente13
@SolNaciente13 Жыл бұрын
YEA. HE IS NOT FOOLING ANYONE. 😌
@NunyaBesnas
@NunyaBesnas Жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what Indiana Jones would say… 🤔
@NuisanceMan
@NuisanceMan Жыл бұрын
It is written that he who denies he is Indiana Jones is the true Indiana Jones!
@christopherstein2024
@christopherstein2024 Жыл бұрын
@@NuisanceMan He left his hat for us!!!
@stephenclark6236
@stephenclark6236 Жыл бұрын
Snorri's description of Freyja traveling under many names as she searches for Óðr is weirdly reminiscent of far more ancient myths concerning the Egyptian goddess Isis (who adopts many names as she searches for Osiris, betrayed and sealed away in a sarcophagus by Set). As with Freyja, special attention is drawn to her tears. Instead of crying tears of gold (a reference to Baltic amber, most likely), Isis' tears result in the annual flooding of the Nile. In both cases, these tears stood in for something of huge cultural and economic import.
@user-pm1gb2eo1s
@user-pm1gb2eo1s 5 жыл бұрын
*Looks at Cowboy hat* *Looks at his interest in guns* *Looks at job description* “I’m not Indiana Jones” Mmmmhhhh?
@joeampolo42
@joeampolo42 5 жыл бұрын
I still think he has the better hat.
@user-pm1gb2eo1s
@user-pm1gb2eo1s 5 жыл бұрын
joe ampolo True, true
@meraduddcethin2812
@meraduddcethin2812 5 жыл бұрын
Was thinking the very same thing.
@nateknudson8500
@nateknudson8500 5 жыл бұрын
*winks in old norse*
@dominomasked
@dominomasked 5 жыл бұрын
They’ve never been seen together. Coincidence?!
@Dobj319
@Dobj319 5 жыл бұрын
What? You are not Indiana Jones? So, then, are you Colorado Jones ;-)
@LarsPallesen
@LarsPallesen 5 жыл бұрын
Colorado Crawford has a certain ring to it :-)
@dominomasked
@dominomasked 5 жыл бұрын
Step one would be to name your dog Colorado.
@ancientsurvival
@ancientsurvival 5 жыл бұрын
@@LarsPallesen Alliteration: perfect for poetry)) Colorado Crawford carefully climbed, crows calling. Perseverance, pushing past the peaks patiently presenting wisdom as he walks, old words of warriors. Ok, that's all I've got 😂
@einarbolstad8150
@einarbolstad8150 5 жыл бұрын
What, no Edda 3? I'll stop sleeping outside the bookstore then.
@graffics7665
@graffics7665 Жыл бұрын
Thinking of a unique name for our first daughter was painstaking- then I thought of Freya but didn't think the other half would go for it.. She DID! Freya Rose has a nice ring to it (she originally wanted to name her Rosalie)
@natemarx4999
@natemarx4999 5 жыл бұрын
Who else has this channel on notification? I want us to be friends forever!
@eleojoakor9088
@eleojoakor9088 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂 hi friend
@SarahGreen523
@SarahGreen523 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting these lectures! You have become my main source for Norse mythology with the added bonus of hearing the language spoken in it's context. So very helpful!
@faramund9865
@faramund9865 5 жыл бұрын
"The picture that people often get is that you're Indiana Jones". Well the way you dress surely doesn't help with dismissing that idea xd.
@nantahalawildman6345
@nantahalawildman6345 5 жыл бұрын
Ja, we need to get him a whip and he'll be set!
@mnemonyss
@mnemonyss 5 жыл бұрын
But does he staple that hat to his forehead?
@leehitt4704
@leehitt4704 3 жыл бұрын
Indiana Jones doesn't dress like a cowboy, just wears a fedora.
@Svavarsk
@Svavarsk 5 жыл бұрын
Could the split into two distinct godessess be explained by there having at some point been two or more tribes or people whos oral traditions evolve from the same roots, one of them to use the name Frigg and the other Freyja? And eventually through wars, alliances or by scholars those oral traditions were merged into the later belief that Frigg and Freyja are two godessess?
@MissfittEdger
@MissfittEdger 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Odin, was living two lives and took a lot of business trips lol
@marvalice3455
@marvalice3455 3 жыл бұрын
"two lives" One Eyed bus Driver: those are rooky numbers! I got at least 9! sounds like this handsome intelligent odin guy needs to up his game!
@HladgerdKissinger
@HladgerdKissinger 3 жыл бұрын
​@@marvalice3455 One-eyed college student: Hey fellow teens, I've got no time for nine lives due to all these exams I gotta take, but this Odin feller must be really fun at parties! I heard he scores tons of chicks and recites some wicked poetry!
@justfiddlinaround1128
@justfiddlinaround1128 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe with his buddy, Zeus.
@dewd9327
@dewd9327 3 жыл бұрын
@@justfiddlinaround1128 imagine Hera and Frejya teaming up to catch their husbands in the act
@justfiddlinaround1128
@justfiddlinaround1128 3 жыл бұрын
@@dewd9327 Sounds like you're on to something.
@deemon1997
@deemon1997 5 жыл бұрын
Mr Crawford is increasingly becoming my favorite person😂
@farabove100
@farabove100 4 жыл бұрын
Facts
@nantahalawildman6345
@nantahalawildman6345 5 жыл бұрын
Awaiting my copies of your books, "The Poetic Edda" and "The Sagas..." Looking forward to your "Prose Edda" translation. Thank you for these videos!
@ArchYeomans
@ArchYeomans 4 жыл бұрын
I have both Audible books.
@swaggattarius4355
@swaggattarius4355 4 жыл бұрын
I had a dream the other night that I was a giant warrior goddess, I’ve never heard the name Frig before, only Freya but I was called Frig in my dream. Which is why I clicked on this video, now I’m going to have to binge watch this whole channel.... Not saying by any means my dream has any validity at all, I also had a dream last week that Leonardo DiCaprio was bitten on the shoulder by a chimpanzee. 🤷‍♀️ Thanks for sharing your knowledge, I could listen to you read poems for hours...
@marvalice3455
@marvalice3455 3 жыл бұрын
dreams are strange things.
@freyatilly
@freyatilly Жыл бұрын
Hahaha so cool. 🤣
@NuisanceMan
@NuisanceMan Жыл бұрын
DiCaprio WAS bitten on the shoulder by a chimpanzee. "The Da Vinci Code" proves it.
@curriphacreator
@curriphacreator 6 сағат бұрын
You have weird/cool dreams. :)
@greymane2090
@greymane2090 2 жыл бұрын
it would make more sense to me that as husband and wife tend to mirror one another's interests to a degree hence the attraction that Freya was Odin's wife each taking their own half of the battle slain and then she hosts at Valhall as would be her right as the wife of the man whose Hall is owned.
@Jayde_Seraph
@Jayde_Seraph 9 ай бұрын
It could also be possible, from my limited understanding of general mythology, that since Freyja and Frigg are considered to be members of their respective clan/family of gods, that to differentiate their presence in the two families her name was split or she was given a new name. This would also explain odinn and odr as he would also become a member of both clans/families. This wouldn't be too dissimilar to how Kore the goddess of spring became known as Persephone, queen of the underworld, and would be referred to by either name depending on which role she was in at the time, though now we just know her as Persephone. This would also explain the presence of both Freyja and Frigg in stories like when Loki insults the gods, as Kore and Persephone are considered to be two separate beings.
@embracing_spirit
@embracing_spirit 5 жыл бұрын
As always, great video! Loved your approach to this topic.
@ericph9
@ericph9 5 жыл бұрын
Not really the main focus of the video, but an idea I had regarding Folkvangr: Freyja and Óðinn could be like team captains picking teams for the day's training/battles, like a game of basketball in middle-school, but probably more violent.
@MrJakedog104
@MrJakedog104 3 жыл бұрын
My theory is that since Freyja gets first pick, she chooses the slain that are of upstanding character. The ones who were good, honorable people. From the myths, it doesn't seem like Odin is too picky about the morals of the slain that he gets. He cares first and foremost about your skill.
@DeviousWriter
@DeviousWriter 3 жыл бұрын
This is awesome! Just found your channel and this was such a good lesson.
@Lightbeerer
@Lightbeerer 4 жыл бұрын
I grew up on the island of Frei in Norway - which I'm guessing could have originally been named after Freyr. Anyway, this is not far from another island called Frøya which is the modern Norwegian name for Freyja.
@redere4777
@redere4777 3 жыл бұрын
No, the island of Frei was called Freiðr in Old Norse and was spelled Fredø in Norwegian until a century ago. The -a in the name of the island Frøya is the definite article, so it's "the Frøy", in Old Norse it was also called Frøy.
@johanpeturdam
@johanpeturdam 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like frjá would be the origin of the Faroese verb "at fríggja", which can mean anything from "to make out" to "to make love" or even "to f*ck". Very context based but not usually seen as a swear word. But yes, that also has to do with the name of the day: the issue being that in the name of the day, the vowel is long í as opposed to Frigg which has a short vowel. Another example which points rather to fríggja- coming frjá, is that we see this sound change in another word: the word fé has the genitive form fjár, in Faroese these are fæ and fíggjar (this latter been spun off as a prefix meaning financial, so fíggjarlóg (finance law) means budget). But this sound change isn't consistent either since the adjective frjáls becomes frælsur in Faroese. - And as a native speaker, I would love your 40 minute lesson to see your take on Faroese. :)
@fatimaruiz3504
@fatimaruiz3504 5 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! Thank you so much💙
@BerNa650
@BerNa650 4 жыл бұрын
A great video as always. Thanks for your effort and great work, it's awesome to have such a detailed and precise source such as you, it really motivates me to study even further! All the best to you
@bosschad8273
@bosschad8273 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr. Crawford, I greatly appreciate your knowledge of the old Norse lore.
@reneedunaway2221
@reneedunaway2221 3 жыл бұрын
We're choosing a name for our newly adopted dog. Freya came to mind as something that "sounds nice and has mythological significance." And here I am, down the rabbit hole. Thank you for the education! I know nothing about Norse mythology and am appreciating how complex following the historical evolution of storylines must be. And, having more context on the name origin of "Freya/Freyja/Freja" to see if it's appropriate to name our pet. She has drifted through many homes before ours with several different names, so I appreciate that parallel :)
@reneedunaway2221
@reneedunaway2221 3 жыл бұрын
And, we now know to "Americanize" the pronunciation more like "Fro-ya" instead of our NYC metro "FRAYYYY-AH"
@freyaLNH
@freyaLNH 3 жыл бұрын
awee my names Freya and this makes me so happyyyy have fun with your dog haha yall did it right- adopt, dont shop
@sheilaforde836
@sheilaforde836 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr Crawford. Just got into Norse Mythology & the Runes. Looking forward to viewing your other videos.
@jessicacrawford7058
@jessicacrawford7058 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your channel and knowledge! .. I’ve been so incredibly drawn to both Frigg and Freyja.. and your channel has helped me connect with my ancestral beliefs 🥰🙏🏻
@colinnelson3041
@colinnelson3041 4 жыл бұрын
I have a personal theory that Freyja, who came to Asgard as a Vanir hostage, then marries Odin to cement the alliance of Aesir and Vanir, and Frigg is her married name. Was just a thought I had, but could explain the process of the development of the understanding of her as two separate goddesses
@icykittenlunatic1122
@icykittenlunatic1122 3 жыл бұрын
That seems plausible.
@spearbun
@spearbun 3 жыл бұрын
I see you played God Of War
@sigbraga
@sigbraga 5 жыл бұрын
Your videos are the best. Thank you for them. But some times, like in this video, the sound is a bit low.
@freyatilly
@freyatilly Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I have tried to do research on these two goddesses. But thankfully you already did that and indeed it seems they were one, then split.
@elloiseansell5322
@elloiseansell5322 2 жыл бұрын
Omg just reading your translation of the poetic edda!! So awesome:)
@oathboundsecrets
@oathboundsecrets 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I love how you explain this. Thank you.
@harrybailey6297
@harrybailey6297 5 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful place in the background absolutely stunning
@LeoxandarMagnus
@LeoxandarMagnus 5 жыл бұрын
Good way to start the day.
@SilverScale.
@SilverScale. 5 жыл бұрын
At 22:47 -- yes. "Friday" in Romanian (a Romance language) is "Vineri," etymologically related to "Veneris dies," the day of the goddess Venus.
@Pagyptsian
@Pagyptsian 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Just as confused as I was before. But also, learnt extra bits of information, thank you!
@lexi9956
@lexi9956 Жыл бұрын
Kudos, this was very enlightening.
@TheRevanchrist
@TheRevanchrist 2 жыл бұрын
I partially blame modern media for some of the confusion I have between the two. Especially in cases where "Frigg" is written out of stories or settings involving the Norse Pantheon and Freyja's character gets Frigg's stories along with her own.
@nickb-whistler4431
@nickb-whistler4431 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Love your relaxed demeanor. Love your "Hwether" pronunciation. It seems a more original pronunciation with the hard H.
@stevechappelle2453
@stevechappelle2453 5 жыл бұрын
I have long held they are the same goddess (or possibly different aspects), thank you for an enlightening presentation.
@TheMadgeorge
@TheMadgeorge 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the music. It reminded me of Firefly. Great lecture by the way.
@daneglance7205
@daneglance7205 3 жыл бұрын
Firefly was shiny.
@ChrissieBear
@ChrissieBear 5 жыл бұрын
Perfect time of year for this video xP
@mickmaddox8423
@mickmaddox8423 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all that you do!
@energiesrising333
@energiesrising333 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thank you for sharing this with us. Lead here through a series of Synchronicities. From Colorado myself 😁
@admiraln8
@admiraln8 Жыл бұрын
Very informative and helpful. Thanks
@tov5392
@tov5392 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative, thank you.
@MidgardMusings
@MidgardMusings 5 жыл бұрын
This is awesome! My most recent Deity Discussion video was on Frigg. Really love the exceptional detail put in here, as usual!
@LordHayabusa85
@LordHayabusa85 4 жыл бұрын
In the recent God of War game, Mimir claims that Odin refers to Freyja as Frigg because Frigg means Beloved. Supposedly he does this to mask Freyja’s (a Vanir woman) accomplishments as those of an Aesir woman.
@ironrex6979
@ironrex6979 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t take anything from that game seriously.
@MikeMafiaII
@MikeMafiaII 5 жыл бұрын
Watching for the insights and the funny moments when your hat nearly flies away
@wolff110001
@wolff110001 2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos I use them to help teach my children and other norse pagans that come to me for guidance
@mrdragon5142
@mrdragon5142 2 жыл бұрын
Coming along years later, I have a question, should you ever see it. I find your argument about the splitting of Frigg/Freya to be convincing, and it certainly answers a lot of questions I had about the goddesses of Norse mythology. My question is, how much consensus is there in your discipline on this topic? You mention disagreeing with people on this topic, and I guess I'm curious about how many people (of appropriate credentials/understanding of the topic) are you disagreeing with? While I'm posting, let me also say that I have been really enjoying your videos since I discovered them. I hope for the sake of students in formal/credentialed instruction that you find a way back to their classroom. As someone who just likes to see good information spread, I hope that you continue to share your knowledge in this public forum as well. Great job!
@melissahdawn
@melissahdawn 2 жыл бұрын
I love the pronunciation in this video!
@garychynne1377
@garychynne1377 4 жыл бұрын
thank yew jackson. enjoyed
@DrINTJ
@DrINTJ 5 жыл бұрын
This was a pleasure to watch. One of your best ever. It was a delight to do through these hypotheses that may never be settled while being comforted by clear warnings about the lack of data and the high uncertainty of findings, without discounting the wonder of speculation.
@leomes
@leomes 5 жыл бұрын
Professor Crawford, Jacob Grimm identified Svipdag from the eddaic poems Fjölsvinnsmál and Grógaldr as Freya's husband, so did Viktor Rydberg. What do you think about their take on this? And another great video as usual. Cheers from Brazil.
@luveniwai
@luveniwai 5 жыл бұрын
Grógaldr could definitely be a title Galdr being chant/magical song (If I'm not totally mistaken) - pretty sure Odin has a few Galdr names *runs off to look*
@LivWildStyle
@LivWildStyle 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@LivWildStyle
@LivWildStyle 5 жыл бұрын
I heart linguistics. Have a wonderful day. Keeping it Drengar
@annegunnhildalbertsen1304
@annegunnhildalbertsen1304 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jackson. Can you help me where is the best place to learn old norse? I live in Denmark and dont have the possability to come to your place. But do you have some kind of online schooling?
@calvincoolidge8180
@calvincoolidge8180 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Will use this in my Norwegian-class and History-class (how to work with sources). Greetings from Norway! I am the author of Sylvskipi btw.
@Lupinemancer87
@Lupinemancer87 Жыл бұрын
I've read some sources that states that Frigg is Njord's sister, and the aunt of Freya and Frey.
@Virginia-er9si
@Virginia-er9si 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dr. Crawford, a detailed analysis that seems to throw a revealing light also on the complexity of Norse way of seeing gender roles through mythology. It's really fascinating observing how, for a hyper-masculine society, the attributions of these figures are quite articulate. Well, "Indiana Jones lifestyle" is sure dreamt by many, but I have to say that academic life is not that bad when takes place in locations that are impressive like your Colorado.
@danielfontenot7214
@danielfontenot7214 3 жыл бұрын
Norse people were shaped by harsh weather and lesser so forgiving seas, attributes like strength and hardiness were fostered to preserve the people. To call the attributes masculine or feminine is to claim one has neither. Women were equals to the men but the Norse understood that people are built differently and each job was to those who could take it efficiently.
@thyandyr7369
@thyandyr7369 5 жыл бұрын
Got them books, will read in few weeks on my 14h flight.
@NorthernVisionsTarot
@NorthernVisionsTarot 4 жыл бұрын
Howdy from Wisconsin! It’s marvelous to see how your channel has evolved, Dr. Crawford (although I confess some nostalgia for the original whiteboard lectures). Your video mentions similarities between Norse, Proto Germanic, and Sanskrit. It got me thinking: weren’t all of these people originally descended from the Proto-Indo-Europeans? It makes sense that they would influence the evolution of language and spirituality- as the origin point of so many diverse cultural groups. Would it be fair to say that the words Frijjo/Frigg/Priyya are cognates? They are, to my ear, almost mutually intelligible. Furthermore, as language and culture are forever interwoven, I would be even more interested to hear your thoughts on the Aesir-Asura correspondence! Either way- THANK YOU for continuing to produce such thought provoking content. Looking forward to the next time I can sit down and noodle to one of your videos :)
@NorthernVisionsTarot
@NorthernVisionsTarot 4 жыл бұрын
PS- it is Vendredi :)
@RyanEdmondsMyLifeAsRyan
@RyanEdmondsMyLifeAsRyan 4 жыл бұрын
Wassail! Thank you Prof - your work is invaluable to us who are attempting to reconstruct and reinvent the spiritual traditions of our ancestors. Just downloaded your Havamal... And I can't WAIT to begin - my holiday reading here in Summery South Africa! :)
@crimsonmansion8
@crimsonmansion8 3 жыл бұрын
Where in the sagas is it mentioned about Frigg being associated with weaving? Does anyone have leads?
@ScottAndScarlettsDarkHumor
@ScottAndScarlettsDarkHumor 2 жыл бұрын
What is known about the afterlife of those chosen by Freyja?
@brianericksen4700
@brianericksen4700 2 жыл бұрын
Jackson Crawford- love the talks. Connecting my son to his Norwegian past through some of your work. Thank you. Curious- I grew up in England and the term ‘frig’ or ‘to frig’ does indeed mean lady love but more lady self-love. Might there be some connection? Is there a similar linking say in the Hebredeas or Scandinavia as well? If overt connections to the goddess is there in in Friday, then perhaps ‘to frig’ is a left over ribald humor or just understanding of the human act with the goddess? It is natural that when many stories fade what leaves understanding last is something connected to sex.
@brianericksen4700
@brianericksen4700 2 жыл бұрын
Please forgive the vulgar nature of the question but if there might be a connection this is strong evidence ancient Scandinavians viewed Frigg as less love and more a sex goddess. Perhaps this is some of the Frigg/Freya split.
@vorthora
@vorthora 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a scholar in your dept., but I've always believed them to be the same goddess. Perhaps, Freya, as a goddess of "love and beauty," might have represented the younger Frigg (perhaps the matron phase of Freya), with a more "stable" Odhr or Odinn, but the shipwreck still remains, and who knows if we'll ever know for sure.
@alapikomamalolonui6424
@alapikomamalolonui6424 5 жыл бұрын
"Colorado Crawford and the Bókmenntasetur of Hörmungar" ..when will it be on the History Channel? Aloha Doc, a me nā mahalo nui īa ʻoe! :) 🤙
@Meretneith
@Meretneith 5 жыл бұрын
Much more interesting could be the association with Freyr and the Njörd-Nerthus family. Since the evidence seems to indicate that the these gods were exclusively worshipped in the north, Scandinavia, Northern Germany and England, the merging of Odin's wife with Nerthus-Njörds daughter could have been one major factor in the split into two goddesses in this region. And indeed Freyja shares characteristics with both Odin and Freyr.
@j3tztbassman123
@j3tztbassman123 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for giving me the logistic evidence that supports my own interpretation of the ancient lore. I also use Óđin's reaction to Freyja's acquisition of the Brisingamen to be rather indicative of their relationship. However, I do know a dedicant of the Vanir who maintains that these goddesses are unique individuals. Perhaps over the years since the linguistic split, the spiritual energy of worshipers has given these names their own agency.
@normannormiemates4844
@normannormiemates4844 5 жыл бұрын
What do you think of the (possibly) Roman origins of Saturday?
@giacomobressan5902
@giacomobressan5902 4 ай бұрын
I would recommend reading the History of the Lombards ( There are both Icelandic, Norwegian, Danish and Swedish translations of the book). There is an important part in the history of the Lombards which shows an important, if not, pivotal role of Women and Goddess.
@Lefrog420Blazin
@Lefrog420Blazin 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Uulfinn
@Uulfinn 2 ай бұрын
Does freyja have any connections to ēostre? Is there a norse goddess whose name is cognate with ēostre?
@dominomasked
@dominomasked 5 жыл бұрын
With the notion that folkvangr is valhol, it makes me wonder if freya “choosing the seats” and each getting half means she’s the one who basically decides which are hers and which are his by where they sit. I also wonder if “choosing” the dead refers to after they’re already dead or before,.
@cetviesauthor-writer.3043
@cetviesauthor-writer.3043 3 жыл бұрын
did they not have a primordial goddess??? i have been looking for this info.
@00ddub
@00ddub 5 жыл бұрын
Could Freja be connected to the Vedic word “Praja”?
@sidravitale308
@sidravitale308 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, wow, that shipwreck metaphor makes a lot of sense.
@ryomahoffman6803
@ryomahoffman6803 2 жыл бұрын
I have a theory that Freyjas association with war is just Romans or Greeks misinterpreting Freyja as Minerva/Athena, would I be wrong to say that? Cuz I also understand that Freyja is associated with the Valkyrie
@evander2347
@evander2347 7 ай бұрын
Great food for thought. You have so much solid knowledge and I love the analogy between the old history and a shipwreck. I'm really glad you're an every day scholar and not out there swinging a whip 'killing communists'. Don't think you're suited for that, dusty scrolls fits you better. Cheers from Norway
@arghapirate2427
@arghapirate2427 5 жыл бұрын
In Dutch the wordt for friday is vrijdag. The word we have in Dutch for making love is vrijen. In folklore we call the white berries of the misseltoe freya's tears, I guess it's related to the death of Baldr. I heard Freya is related to the Linden tree, do you have more info on that?
@lwmaynard5180
@lwmaynard5180 2 жыл бұрын
I have read in one of in one of Robert Scrutton book THE OTHER ATLANTIS, that FREYER was one of three mother's of the earth. ? Appears to be one of the wife's of Noah's sons ?
@liamgibson8602
@liamgibson8602 5 жыл бұрын
is that your dueling pose in the thumbnail or what? looks like you're about to draw on someone
@gunther141
@gunther141 5 жыл бұрын
Uh...what was that yell at 2:24?
@ericesper348
@ericesper348 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. I see a lot of this same kind of confusion even worse with the Morrigú And her various and many at least 9 component goddesses. I truly wish to be someone out there, and I don't mean to be Brown nosing, with your level of communication skills and expertise working on the insular Celtic material.
@wlupusborealis
@wlupusborealis 5 жыл бұрын
Well argued.
@sunstonespice
@sunstonespice 2 жыл бұрын
I’m currently on the stance that Frigg/Freya are the same goddess under different names.
@oldboy977
@oldboy977 5 жыл бұрын
My personal opinion is that the different names is a sign of initiation. People's mind's often change so much after initiation that they essentially becomes different people. Think of a woman before and after childbirth or the man before and after battle or any ordeal really. Freyja became Frigg after her and Odin (Odin the Seeker and Frigg the mystery) make their son Baldr. Essentially showing that once the seeker and the mystery finally are able to really get together they not only change themselves but create something new...Enlightenment (Balur).
@freyjajayrozeangelicallypo6136
@freyjajayrozeangelicallypo6136 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely ⭐
@ericcota4732
@ericcota4732 5 жыл бұрын
God of War addresses this issue in a really interesting way. In the game, Freya and Frigg were the same person, but Frigg was a “pet name” Odin called Freya. Eventually, as things turned sour between them, Odin began attributing anything worthy Freya accomplished to Frigg, so people began thinking Frigg was a different person
@NuisanceMan
@NuisanceMan Жыл бұрын
Friggin' Odin
@faramund9865
@faramund9865 5 жыл бұрын
Do you think it's possible that we'll find more literature on the Norse Gods from the 11th through the 13th century or before.
@stellanathaniel3198
@stellanathaniel3198 5 жыл бұрын
Dr. Crawford discusses that a bit in this video, I believe: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/orJ7ar2H3ayzo5s.html
@Pandemoniumusic
@Pandemoniumusic 5 жыл бұрын
This is highly unlikely. But who knows, up to the 19th century, it regularly happened that scholars randomly found original litterature in the dark libraries of German monasteries...
@Tina06019
@Tina06019 5 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t that be great? Not very likely, we can but hope!
@pablolloyd1450
@pablolloyd1450 5 жыл бұрын
Could Frigg have been born by something like parthenogenesis similarly to Aphrodite in Greek myth? Considering their boths goddesses of love...
@colinp2238
@colinp2238 5 жыл бұрын
Could the difference be down to location or dialect? There is a large area to look at when we are thinking about these tales, a huge part of mainland Europe, Scandinavia, Britain, Faroes, Iceland and Greenland.
@TroyKC
@TroyKC 4 жыл бұрын
Hey @02:25 did someone yell THOR!!! ? :-)
@tanasha67
@tanasha67 10 ай бұрын
I have been wondering if Friday was Frejas day, Friggs day or Frejs day... But if Frej and Freja are lord and lady of love, then Friday being loves day is simply the day of the love twins?
@IcyPandaGirl
@IcyPandaGirl 3 жыл бұрын
So who had the chariot of giant cats, frigg or freya?
@Johna41223
@Johna41223 3 жыл бұрын
I personally think Frigg and Freya were originally the same, and that Frigg's kinda... second name - (Like Odin & Allfather is the same. Or the other way around).
@cheezysauce4963
@cheezysauce4963 5 жыл бұрын
I agree that it is plausible and likely even that they were once the same. Think of other IE proto religions and you see the combos of Mother-Maiden-Crone in some form or another. Sometimes they split, sometimes it turns into one figure. And sometimes, it does BOTH. History... 🤓
@animistchannel2983
@animistchannel2983 5 жыл бұрын
Yah, the indo-european goddess always has aspects that are both distinct and simultaneous. It's old stuff, almost ice-age stuff, old enough that Kali has the same thing going on from a common root.
@danielfontenot7214
@danielfontenot7214 3 жыл бұрын
As Hellenistic Pagans (Greek) believe that the three goddesses Selene, Artemis, and Hecate resemble phases of the Moon and the stages of a woman's life as Maiden, Mother, Crone. They hold different facets of the mythology with some aligning properties as they are all patrons of the moon. But where their myths tell, they are never in the same story and do not have similar personalities or temperaments, yet exist simultaneously. Freyja, often attributed to the representation of young womanhood, is of the Vanir. A tribe of gods from another realm in/on Yggdrasil than the gods of Asgard. Frigg, attributed to mothers and marriage, is assumed to be of the Asgardian tribe by the mystery of her origin and marriage to Odinn. Seeing how they exist simultaneously is many sagas and the Eddas themselves, many Norse Pagans hold the belief that the two are separate yet similar goddesses who are seeming with a kinship as they have similar roles within their cultures. That is to say, that Ođr could be the Vanir counterpart of Odinn with less notoriety in his role. That said, I'm no expert, Dr. Crawford definitely knows more of the real world side of this. I'm just like many Norse Pagans trying to put the pieces of Dr. Crawford's titled "shipwreck" together. The spirituality and archaeology definitely could fit together and possibly give the full narrative of the history and stories that both parties crave.
@jaharnarishma5373
@jaharnarishma5373 2 жыл бұрын
So, I know you said you didn't wanna have that 40 minute conversation on Faroese pronunciations... but, can you, at some point maybe? Edit: I don't know why I forgot to say this! I love your work, thanks so much Dr. Crawford.
@Helagsborinn
@Helagsborinn Ай бұрын
I have a theory that I've been researching. It is an amalgam theory that comes from both that Freyja and Frigga by prominent scholars are considered the same goddess, that the Sister-whife of Njord is in fact Nerthus/Jörð/Fjörgyn, and that Freya is associated with slate lightning 'that lacks thunder' (implying a lineage of lightning reaching both Thor and Freya). This would make Thor the stepson of Njord, and Njord the same as Fjörgynn and thus the Father of Frigga, making the true name of Freyja to be Frigga-Freyja brother of Yngvi-Frey and lightning a power inherited to both Thor and Freyja from their mother Fjörgyn/Jord. It fits. See also how the other IE-cultures worships Fjörgynn/Njord as the God of Thunder and not his stepson, but in names such as Perkunas and Perun. So: • Frigga-Freyja (Lady Frigga) is the "true" norse name of Frigga and Freya and that is why they share most traits with each other just like this clip suggests. • Jord/Njörun/Fjörgyn/Nerthus is the same goddess. • Njord and Fjörgynn is the same god. • Jord is the Consort of Njord, a divine pair much like the Frej & Freja duo and it explains the Fjörgynn/ Fjörgyn pair. • Jord is the mother of Yngvi-Frey and Frigga-Freyja. • Thor is the child of Jord and Odin, and thus both half-brother and stepchild to Frigga-Freyja. • Fjörgynn & Fjörgyn = Njord & Jord; the parents of Yngvi-Freyr & Frigga-Freyja.
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