From a Modern Classic to an Adventure Bike- The Right Choice?

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Freddie Dobbs

Freddie Dobbs

Жыл бұрын

I headed out on a ride into the English countryside with Danny, who has in the past year gone from a Triumph Bobber, to a Harley Davidson Softail Slim, to a KTM Super Adventure 1290.
The List of motorcycles discussed:
Triumph Bobber
Harley Davidson Softail Slim
KTM Super Adventure 1290
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@biker_dale
@biker_dale Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year 🥳 Danny has learnt a good lesson that the purpose defines the bike, especially when there's a commute involved. Cool maybe good but it spoils the ride, and your experience when it doesn't give you what you want. Never try and fit into a style of biking, find the bike that suits your style of riding. Great video, and a good start to 2023.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
I’ll pin this comment- very well said, Dale🙌🏻 Happy New Year!
@fallinginthed33p
@fallinginthed33p Жыл бұрын
These things are the SUVs of the bike world. It's hard to go back to other types when you get a fairing, a comfy seating position and the ability to crush miles on tarmac and dirt.
@klossy4
@klossy4 Жыл бұрын
I get the practicality of an adventure bike that has all those bells and whistles, but for me, my stripped back, super basic Street Twin has so much heart and simplicity. At its core, it’s an engine and two wheels. Nothing more, nothing less - that’s pure motorcycling.
@3000ralphie
@3000ralphie Жыл бұрын
Says who? Motorcycling is different things to different people. I ride motocross, do track days and ride on the road. Am I not a true motorcyclist partaking of real motorcycling because I don’t have a stripped back, basic bike?
@klossy4
@klossy4 Жыл бұрын
@@3000ralphie nope, just giving my opinion of on matter! Chill dude, motorcycling is whatever you want it to be.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed that gents - we all go sensible in the end! I love my Custom Enfield and Speed Twin, and they are the bikes of choice for a sunny Sunday afternoon blat - but for everyday practicality it is always the BMW GS I choose for most rides.....Danny has nailed the reasons so many of us buy adventure bikes these days....your time will come Freddie (but get one as well as the Bonneville, not instead of....)
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
I thought this’d be the case for you (GS as the default choice)🙂 I do see why, and I am slowly coming round to the idea of a bike like this alongside the Bonneville. Everyone who owns a GS LOVES them!
@5tevieb954
@5tevieb954 Жыл бұрын
@@FreddieDobbsI’d love to see you do a subs rides and ride a few of Andy’s bikes
@reinistraidas
@reinistraidas Жыл бұрын
@@FreddieDobbs Some riders move from classics to modern, practical ADVs in search of usability. Others eventually get tired of being just another dude on an ADV and go the other way to find some class, heritage and character. All valid paths, all part of the riding process. When you attain that level where you can afford to have your sunday cruiser and an everyday touring ADV, that's when you can really enjoy the whole menu.
@SlipperyJack60
@SlipperyJack60 Жыл бұрын
This is the review that I've subconsciously been looking for. Very interesting. I think that the bottom line is that you can do anything with anything. It just comes down to how you want to do it and what your mindset is. Do you want/need all the gizmos to do what you are doing? Great, get them and enjoy them. Do you want/need that romantic vision in your mind? Great, get it and enjoy it. Whatever gets you through the night. I now understand why people get adventure bikes and enjoy them. And I think I have a better understanding of why I have what I've got, which is not an adventure bike. Perhaps in the future I'll have a different mindset and then I'll get something different. Each to their own and just love riding.
@Mj83Mj
@Mj83Mj Жыл бұрын
You can’t beat the practicality of an adventure bike but they always feel too good. Too comfortable, too sensible.. I don’t want my bike to feel like a car!
@erocnw1341
@erocnw1341 Жыл бұрын
I guarantee you that a KTM1290 doesn't feel like a car.
@jimmycakes7158
@jimmycakes7158 Жыл бұрын
I got a cb500x and first thought that came to me was how it reminded me of a car just by how smooth it is, little maintenance involved, posture
@5tevieb954
@5tevieb954 Жыл бұрын
@@erocnw1341😂
@tigerick7291
@tigerick7291 Жыл бұрын
@@erocnw1341 I agree, mine is by far the best and most exciting bike I have ever ridden never mind owned.
@mikeylloyd1967
@mikeylloyd1967 Жыл бұрын
I completely relate to this. Been riding for a year, first big bike was a GSXR-600, I was uncomfortable, miserable, looking for excuses not to ride. Traded it for a Z750, things got a little better on the comfort front but again with no electronics or wind protection I just didn't have the passion to ride... I'm 25, still young, but I knew my dream bike was a 1200GSA...So I bought one...and i've never ridden so much:') can't get off it. Sod what anyone tells you to get, buy the bike you love and are going to ride the nuts off:)
@vintageprinciples
@vintageprinciples Жыл бұрын
Too funny… I’m mid 30s and used to ride a GSXR 750 and regret that style of bike. You can never get closed to using its potential (or if you are you’re borderline hospital bound) and got back into it last year and got a 2016 GS1200 Not the fastest. But wow. Still quick once you’re going and does everything so well. Corners remarkably! Wifey likes coming along. Buy what you NEED. Not necessarily what you WANT. Looking cool is overrated. You’ll use it more and make more memories. (And after 2 hours of riding it’s safer actually as you’re not completely cramped up and not able to react as quickly to something happening on the road). 👍🏼
@jamesfisher1827
@jamesfisher1827 Жыл бұрын
I’ve owned a number of very different bikes over the years and really understand where Danny is coming from. Also very impressed he got there so quickly. I start out on a CBR600F in the late 90’s and desired a Fireblade. I did 11k odd miles in 11months before crashing the CBR600. Then got an XT600E to get back on a bike with affordable insurance and the lure of possible green lane riding at the weekend. Then brought a Fireblade and kept the XT thinking I now had the best of both worlds. Sadly I only ever rode the Fireblade, so sold the XT. Fast forward 5-6 years and I’ve had a couple more Fireblades and then a CB1300F in an attempt to slow down and keep my licence. I have several good friends who have moved from sports bikes and hyper bikes to GS’s and all rave about the GS’s. The CB1300F is a good and very comfortable bike, but it doesn’t ignite anything within me, there’s no passion to go out and ride. I test ride a GS at a salesman’s insistence and within 10 miles I love it, but it’s 50% more money than a premium sports bike, so I walk away. It takes months of mulling things over to finally decide it’s the right move and in around 2008-2009 I purchase my first GS. Now in 2023 I am on my 3rd GS, because it truly does everything well. It can be loaded with luggage and tour with ease, and in the real world on poorly surfaced, twisting UK country roads it will give almost any bike a run for it’s money, while the rider sits in comfort. I am lucky and also own a second hand BMW RnineT, which I love, but in honesty hardly ever ride. I’m okay with that as it was half the price of a new one and had less than 4k miles on when I got it. The bike is a minter and goes out in nice weather and is the pure essence of motorcycling with nothing added, however if I’m popping out in a hurry or just want to get somewhere the GS is the bike that I take 90% of the time.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
What a brilliant insight- I read every word with interest. Thank you so much for sharing this. I think the GS is just about the only bike that I’ve never heard one bad word against!
@paulm749
@paulm749 Жыл бұрын
@@FreddieDobbs There was a period of time back in the early 2000's when a number of BMW single-sided swingarm models were having hub bearing failures. A couple of friends of mine experienced this, but it seems to have been sorted on newer models released in the last decade. So yeah, the current GS is functionally brilliant on the road and pretty much bullet proof.
@igormaslov5989
@igormaslov5989 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the expertise 👍
@3obryans
@3obryans Жыл бұрын
Yep! 😂 I just posted a similar comment. This is most of us! Cheers …
@Yelwas
@Yelwas Жыл бұрын
I agree about the GS many of my friends have them, I even had one, but now they are just too ugly for a road bike. I say road bike, because 90% of GS's stay on the road. I don't know what all fuss is about with the so called adventure bikes, isn't every bike ride an adventure? Brink back touring bikes... Mile munchers that have style and good looks
@winchester92stevebrook44
@winchester92stevebrook44 Жыл бұрын
Interestingly I am a little taller at 6'2", have been riding 52 years, wanted a Harley-Davidson Slim but finally selected the Bonneville Bobber. I have different requirements though, my motorcycle is a retirement present, intended to never commute only cruise on sunny days. I also modified the Bobber with an improved rear shock, and rider floorboards with the more forward controls. There are no bad motorcycles, just the 'best suited to you ' bike.
@simonbell6745
@simonbell6745 8 ай бұрын
What a fantastically honest appraisal of different bikes & mistakes made whilst trying to find the right fit for the right job
@cosef4491
@cosef4491 Жыл бұрын
Came from Harley and Indian cruisers to a BMW Sport Tourer to now a BMW adventure motorcycles. There is no comparison other than they both have two wheels and an engine. Adventure motorcycles are superior in every practical way. I have no intention of ever owning another cruiser of any kind. I didn’t know what I didn’t know. Now I know what a great motorcycle is and what it can do I am never going back to Ok 👌, good enough or not bad.
@ArvidElstrodt
@ArvidElstrodt Жыл бұрын
Nice vid ! I've been riding since 1988 and owned countless bikes. My advice to every new rider is always to first buy 'something cheap' and find out what you actually like.
@basedpatriotLT
@basedpatriotLT Жыл бұрын
But should not you buy multiple bikes to find it out? You can buy certain type of bike and like it without even knowing that you wouod like a different type of bike even more
@TzeiEm
@TzeiEm Жыл бұрын
If I only had tons of extra money and a garage so I could buy multiple bikes... But unfortunately I have neither so I've had to settle for just a single bike 😄 I went from a Suzuki Savage 650 to a Yamaha Dragstar 1100 to a Harley Dyna, until I fell in love with naked bikes and got a Triumph Speed Triple RS. All those bikes had a cool factor, but I found myself not wanting to ride more than 150-200km a day because it was fatiguing. Then I found myself watching more and more adventure bike related stuff on KZfaq and eventually traded my Triumph for a 2020 KTM Super Adventure S and I'll tell you, I've never been more excited to go for a long ride! I did around 2000km on the first two weeks including a trip to neighboring country and in the evenings never felt like I don't want to ride again the next morning. It's so powerful and nimble that I can have just as much fun doing aggressive stuff as with my Speed Triple, but it's also super comfortable for those long rides. AND I can also comfortably ride on unpaved roads and don't have to avoid them anymore. For sure the cool factor isn't as strong (and my wife keeps reminding me about that 😁) but it does everything else so well. And in my opinion the KTM is the least uncool of all the adv bikes, so there's that :)
@richardmoore7381
@richardmoore7381 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating video, Danny is not hobbled by a biking past or rose tinted spectacles, so a thoroughly modern bike makes perfect sense. For me, my current bike (T120) is ridden through the lens of the seventeen year old who rode a succession of Triumphs (500/750 twins and a 750 triple) in the late seventies, hanging out with bikers and for work and courtship; reliving my youth? Yes, to a certain extent.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Superb insight🙂🖤🏍
@johnpriest9575
@johnpriest9575 Жыл бұрын
I had an Aprilia Tuono, was all the ‘passion’ anyone could want, other people would be super interested in it when parked etc, great cool factor. Then I had the epiphany one day on a long cold motorway ride home on the Aprilia, looking at riders on ADV bikes, they weren’t suffering at all. The Aprilia was phenomenal for about 30% of the time, max really. But the versatility of the KTM 1290 SAS (which I swapped it for), means it’s a tool for 100% of the time. For me it’s the versatility ADV provide that trump it. Carry passengers, luggage, any weather, any distance, enjoy every minute, hour, day. Couldn’t even entertain two up days on Tuono, let alone luggage and enjoying it after the 1st hour! Need a 2-bike-garage - ‘Passion’ and a ‘Tool’.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Fantastic insight, really appreciate the input!
@daveclark4793
@daveclark4793 Жыл бұрын
Danny’s experience should be a lesson to anyone who is considering their first motorcycle purchase. Contemplate what use you require from the motorcycle, then have a decent test ride. Do not compromise. I’m not certain that even now Danny has the best bike for his purpose, but I guess only he can answer that one. It just goes to show that if an intelligent, sensible guy like Danny can get it wrong at first, then anyone can.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Very well said, Dave- spot on🙂👌🏻
@HeadUpKneeDown
@HeadUpKneeDown Жыл бұрын
I went from a Triumph Bonneville to a Honda Africa Twin and absolutely love it. I still have the Triumph and rode it to 13 states in 3 years. Now that I have the Honda I understand all the funny looks people we’re giving me on the Triumph when they learned I was nearly 2,000 miles from home.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Haha very interesting- I love this insight!🇺🇸🏍🤘🏼🙂
@marotwin6499
@marotwin6499 Жыл бұрын
Mega stuff! Keep bringing Danny every so often.
@joewheeler2131
@joewheeler2131 Жыл бұрын
This is a very thought provoking video and I really appreciate the balanced, open-minded way you approach the topic. Many others would have made this into divisive and mocking clickbait.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
I’m delighted you enjoyed it, thank you Joe🙂
@allsearpw3829
@allsearpw3829 Жыл бұрын
Hi , the KTM SEEMS TO FIT Danny, s life style , being married with children and his desire to ride a bike , 90 miles commute in all weathers . Enjoying him self earning a living for his family , on your side Freddie and Monika you enjoy your bike earning a living , but it comes over , that every day is a holiday adventure , that,s the enjoyment , you both give over , whilst were doing normal every day work and normal things , looking to escape . Don, t give up your day jobs you two , as us viewers may end up on Prozac . Have a great new year and keep the videos coming .👍👍👍😉
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Beautifully well said- you’ve summed it up perfectly here👌🏻 Thank you for all of your support over the year- I hugely appreciate it and have a fantastic new year!🙂🎉
@bjornlambrecht103
@bjornlambrecht103 Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful video to start the year with ! Thank you ! And i wish you all the best for 2023 ! Greetings from Belgium
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Thank you Bjorn, sending all my best!🙂🇧🇪
@benkelly2190
@benkelly2190 Жыл бұрын
A nice deep dive into bikes and there difference between cars! Good one Freddie!
@Alex-io6ky
@Alex-io6ky Жыл бұрын
great to hear this as it’s hard to decide, i want one now guys for the all the gadgets and comfort
@j.mikegiezeman7616
@j.mikegiezeman7616 Жыл бұрын
Great discussion, great comparison and great fun! Nice job on the video!
@peterhobbs7609
@peterhobbs7609 Жыл бұрын
Great video Freddie, an interesting conundrum when you have different needs, and different requirements that can change your perspective and inform your choices of bike
@Vitoremanuel
@Vitoremanuel Жыл бұрын
If I wasn't clear in my mind, this particularly video just set it off! Great and honestly video from Danny. Super clear and easy to understand. Thanks Freddie for the time you spend with those amazing reviews you make. Cheers and a Happy new year to everyone, best regards from Lisbon, Portugal.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Delighted you found the video useful Vitor! Happy New Year!🙂🎉
@keithbateman5360
@keithbateman5360 Жыл бұрын
Greetings from down under. Looking forward with great enthusiasm to all your adventures this year. You,ve both kept me wonderfully entertained during 2022. Hoping you have a lovely 2023. Thankyou.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Keith! Sending all my very best to you down under and thank you for the support🙂🇦🇺👋
@davek4986
@davek4986 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting for someone (no longer a young man) who passed their test and got a Bonnie (a lot because of your fine work, sir!) and then used it to commute an hour on a Dual carriageway every day. It wasn't until I moved locations and had a much more suitable Bonnie commute that I realized how difficult I'd made things for myself...
@BEEBEE58679
@BEEBEE58679 Жыл бұрын
One of the best videos I have ever seen --- the dialogue between the two of you is at another level. Thank you.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Chris!🙂🙌🏻
@jasonadams5187
@jasonadams5187 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video and awesome content can’t wait for the next video Thank’s Freddie and Monika
@Retromansite
@Retromansite Жыл бұрын
Great subject! All depends on the style of riding you’re into. Danny started off with a look at me bike, then the Harley for looks and lifestyle, but he really wanted to do the 100mile commute so he eventually found the perfect bike for that. I’m a Sunday rider so it’s a GSX1400 for me😍
@pleun315
@pleun315 Жыл бұрын
Best wishes and a happy new year Freddy and Monica ❤️ thank you for your wonderful vidoes its so much appreciated, so please keep it going, greetings from the Netherlands ❤️❤️🙏
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much and Happy New Year!🙂🇳🇱
@lyndabarrow79
@lyndabarrow79 Жыл бұрын
Another great video, Freddie, you summed up the adventure bike genre perfectly they really are a do it all bike!
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Really glad you enjoyed it Lynda🙂
@Santi_Mancini
@Santi_Mancini Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year Freddie & Monica, thanks for enjoying us in 2022 and hopefully in 2023! Take care
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year!🎉🎉
@juangomes21
@juangomes21 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations for this video! It truly is the great battle between having the soul of the classics and the comfort, versatility and technology of the adventures. Have a great year 🤘🏼
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Really glad you enjoyed it and Happy NY, Juan!🙂
@juangomes21
@juangomes21 Жыл бұрын
@@FreddieDobbs thanks! For you and your family too. All the best💪🏼
@simonchristie4117
@simonchristie4117 Жыл бұрын
Personally if it's on two wheels then it's cool, sometimes it's more about the ride/journey than the transport itself 👍
@kencarrcarr3751
@kencarrcarr3751 Жыл бұрын
Hi I sold my 2020 HD Street Glide Special 114ci and bought a HD Pan America Special 1250S for exactly the reasons Danny stated,the adventure bike soaks up everything that is thrown at it and then some. Thanks for the great vids keep up the good work.
@wltrlg
@wltrlg Жыл бұрын
Great episode and topic to start 2023! Happy new year!!
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Really glad you enjoyed it and Happy New Year!
@stewartread849
@stewartread849 Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year to you both. Please keep the videos coming. Absolutely love the way you deliver the content. I went from V7 to a GS750 and both are so comfy. 9 hours in the saddle was easy on either. I just fancied a bit more tech on my bikes now
@mrpipps90
@mrpipps90 Жыл бұрын
My V7 is so comfy I want to eventually make it my cruiser/long distance bike and then get a little Ducati to rip around on...
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year, Stewart! Great to hear your thoughts on this and I can also echo your feelings on a modern classic being all day comfy🙂👌🏻
@Banditmanuk
@Banditmanuk Жыл бұрын
Interesting vid. Its often a battle between owning a bike you really fancy and one that suits you. At 6ft 3 I would definitely fit a big adventure bike well. I still ride a super naked. Its difficult for new riders because often dealers won't give newly qualified or learners a test ride. The KTM is a wonderful bike but I would worry about all that tech keeping working out of warranty. Love the simplicity of the Bonneville, no buffeting from a screen. Just an engine and two wheels, easily fixed by a home mechanic. Happy New year
@debragoodger4972
@debragoodger4972 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your videos 📹, my husband and I love your KZfaq channel and watch every episode. My husband has had bikes since the 70ties and I have been pillion on many trips including route 66 and north west 500, nothing like a bike trip. Even for a coffee ☕️. We wish yourself and Monika a happy and healthy New year ✨️ 😊
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Thank you both for watching the videos, Debra🙂 You’ve listed two of my dream biking trips here- I must do the NC500 this year! Happy New Year to you both!🥂
@willhaylock3769
@willhaylock3769 Жыл бұрын
Adventure bikes are brilliant, I am on my 6th BMW GS since 2005, currently a 2021 BMW 1250 GS TE - I also have a 2017 matte black Triumph Thruxton 1200 R in the garage because it is the best 'feel good' bike ever. The bikes are polar opposites, but that is what is so great about motorcycles.
@davidhall2298
@davidhall2298 Жыл бұрын
Just about to post something similar when I saw this - I too have a GS & a Thruxton. The perfect combination & personal answer to ‘the quandary’. Can’t tell you which is my favourite as both so different. I do realise what a lucky man I am, but if you can afford it, do it! Biker heaven.
@paulcummins1770
@paulcummins1770 Жыл бұрын
Great vid Fred as someone who is 6.1 I tried many new bikes but just couldn't find them comfortable.so in the end I went for a gs1200.And I don't regret one minute of it.
@paulhiggins8526
@paulhiggins8526 Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year Freddieand Monica a very interesting episode with Danny . The story couldn’t be more true to my own experience . I’ve come from a Bonneville street scrambler to a Tiger 900 . This adventure bike has given me so much more riding skills and ventures to participate . I appreciate every rider has different appreciations . I miss the Bonneville and it’s rewards but would have to be a second bike now in the garage . Hope to see you with Danny again exchanging experiences .
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year, Paul!🙂 Great to hear your journey to a Tiger (a few others have done similar; a modern classic to a Tiger👌🏻)
@rattusnorvegicus6936
@rattusnorvegicus6936 Жыл бұрын
Another great video Freddie and some excellent questions from you. I can see you buying an adventure bike after this.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Delighted you enjoyed it! I see the appeal and now I genuinely am a little step closer to considering one🙂
@3obryans
@3obryans Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! Danny has found himself in the same quandary as so many of us. I’ve been back and forth between a number of bike that could be considered “the perfect tool for the job” to “Gotta have it!” - Honda Sabre to CBR 600F3, Kawasaki Versys to Ninja 1000, Kawasaki Concours to Ducati Scrambler, Ducati Multistrada to Ducati SuperSport. I love my SuperSport, and if I could place it on a stand in my living room, I would do. But a new Versys 650 would get the nod most days if I really was going to put the miles down. I’ve added higher bars, hard saddlebags, a taller screen, heated grips, and it still wears me out more than I’d like when conditions aren’t perfect. Two bikes at once is really the way to go. When you just can’t justify it, the KTM or the like seems the business. But! Man, that Bonneville - and my SuperSport … such soul! 🤷🏼‍♂️
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
What a mix you’ve had!! And agreed on that re the Bonnie and Ducati🙂🎶🎶
@nickloftus9079
@nickloftus9079 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. Very interesting and informative 👍 I was out on a group ride this last week with one of those ktm, a bmw s100xr and a few others and ktm and bmw was definitely the bikes I was envying the most. I got to sit on the ktm at motorcycle live and could definitely see myself getting one when the time is right.
@scottstretton2127
@scottstretton2127 Жыл бұрын
Happy New year to all. Loved the video, Totally sums up biking, Purley individual, whatever gets you out eh! Looking forward to more video's, but please keep it on home soil, makes me sooooo jealous when your on your trips 😆
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Happy NY, Scott! Spot on- whatever gets you out of the door and onto a bike is the best bike to own. I will do my best😆🇬🇧
@peterwillis4239
@peterwillis4239 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video Freddie. Great insight into an owner's thoughts about his adventure bike. Thanks Danny. It would have been interesting to hear whether Danny would be prepared to take his pride of joy off road, to get the full experience!! Happy New Year to you and Monica. Take care.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
A very fun point to consider; I would love to do a Bonneville vs KTM off roading competition, so I’ll see Danny’s thoughts😀🤘🏼🏍🏍
@davidreed6817
@davidreed6817 Жыл бұрын
Good morning and happy new year, I've only recently become a viewer to your channel (sorry, but better late than never) and I have to say it's excellent (actually it was a comment by TMF who put me on to you). As a rider with many many years of experience I wouldn't normally recommend that a relatively new rider have such big bikes straight away but Danny is obviously a sensible logical chap who is gaining massive experience every day so he'll be fine, anyway great vlog, I shall now hunt out more of your stuff.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Delighted you found the channel David! That is extremely kind of TMF to mention me- I owe him🙂
@aeroplod
@aeroplod Жыл бұрын
1st class video. An intelligent discussion with a guy who puts his responses clearly and to the point with solid reasoning and logic. I agree, for me,that two bikes is the way to go. My Goldwing for comfort and distance in all weather and my Himalayan for a run-about in reasonably good comfort and for off road . Thanks again Freddie. Feliz año nuevo ... as they say here ... to you both.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Delighted you enjoyed it and Happy New Year!🙂🎉
@duke7888
@duke7888 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Happy New Year to you and Mónica🛵🥳😎
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Happg Nee Year!🙂
@andiway1208
@andiway1208 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Freddie and thanks to Danny too. I’m wrestling with GS ownership and yearning for something more traditional. Practically though, the GS is my KTM, I can ride in whatever and not worry about the upkeep.. happy new year all, ride safe and support your local blood bike group.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Thank you Andi and Happy New Year!🙂
@ezbron
@ezbron Жыл бұрын
This became a more interesting video than i thought because it touches on most of our dilemmas! the cool vs the use! In my case, i dream on start biking, as much as i dream having a bonnie, inside me comes that side, if i even like it or its what i eventually like ride on...
@sanatandharma4435
@sanatandharma4435 Жыл бұрын
Very Interesting Indeed! I like this style of interviewing and discussions, thank you Freddie and Danny! KTM are masters of well sorted bikes.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Delighted you enjoyed it, thank you!🙂
@malcolmrowland6438
@malcolmrowland6438 Жыл бұрын
Great video to start off 2023
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Thanks Malcolm🙌🏻 Have a great day!
@gerrypowell2748
@gerrypowell2748 Жыл бұрын
All bikes offer an adventure and freedom,it’s just that some want the sophistication of it some don’t,happy New Year to you and Monika❤️❤️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, and Happy NY Gerry!🙂🎉
@duncanjowett5575
@duncanjowett5575 Жыл бұрын
HAPPY NEW YEAR to you & Monica. (Also - loving my Christmas Present: Ride & Sons jacket from your mates at XL Moto - wasn't really aware of them till you started on about them 😉
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Thanks Duncan and Happy NY!🙂 Really glad you like the jacket- the value and style is seriously impressive🔥🔥
@chrissteer9215
@chrissteer9215 Жыл бұрын
Happy new year to you, New to your channel and really enjoying the videos Thank you.🏍️
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year Chris, I’m delighted you found the channel!🙂
@93nicd
@93nicd Жыл бұрын
Interestingly, I followed a similar path modern classic, to cruiser, to ADV- but ultimately went back to a cruiser from an ADV, because I missed that sense of style and character.
@gcosmos960
@gcosmos960 Жыл бұрын
Freddie happy new year! This video spoke to my heart. Chris went through the same bike types I did and ended up on the one that I ordered for 2023. The KTM is amazing all rounder and brings a smile all the time. I thought I was the only one that sold an HD to buy a KTM. I can’t agree more, the KTM is the perfect bike for us tall riders. Now time to lose my additional weight and get one more HD to admire in the garage 😂
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year! I’m genuinely now a big step towards really appreciating how good Adv bikes are!🙂
@andyhewitt7588
@andyhewitt7588 Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year and thanks for your entertaining videos. After owning 6 Harley’s and returning to the Uk, where I don’t think the roads really suit cruisers, I opted for a Tiger. Going the ADV route was a great choice for me … the Tiger is a great all round bike and does everything from B road scratching to touring very competently. Keep the vids coming in 2023 😀😀😀
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Great to hear from you Andy and Happy New Year!
@ndcz76
@ndcz76 Жыл бұрын
Really refreshing to hear Danny's experience. I've had a similar journey going from a RE Interceptor to a BMW F900XR - function over form. Hope to see Danny on the channel again in future!
@clausentumsoton
@clausentumsoton Жыл бұрын
function over form? I wouldn't totally agree there.. back in the seventies/eighties that style of bike was just a normal 'do it all' bike.. can't deny that off road capabilities can't compare though
@ndcz76
@ndcz76 Жыл бұрын
@@clausentumsoton Perhaps function over form is too strong as my Interceptor could do everything the BMW can do. The BMW is easier, more comfortable, more practical and less fatiguing but essentially they do the same job.
@sckhoo
@sckhoo Жыл бұрын
Love the content. Do more of this
@nickhutchinson2603
@nickhutchinson2603 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video gents. I'm toying with moving from a litre sports bike to an adventure bike and I've fought myself with the decision for months, asking myself many of the questions that Danny has wrangled over. This video has made the decision for me, I'm ordering that Triumph Tiger when the dealer opens tomorrow. Thanks for a great video (and thanks for costing me thousands!!)
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
I’m delighted you found the video useful! I hope the Triumph dealer visit went well today- nothing more exciting than bike shopping and please do let me know how the ownership experience and transition to an Adv bike is!🙂
@nickhutchinson2603
@nickhutchinson2603 Жыл бұрын
@@FreddieDobbs I actually ordered the bike! Sadly not getting delivered until May as they’re in very short supply - which probably says something about how popular they’re becoming - but massively excited. Hope the time passes quickly though!
@jayxrt385
@jayxrt385 Жыл бұрын
Like Danny I had a few different bikes then tried the triumph tiger and that was that adventure bike for me always. so much more practical and can ride for hours. Happy new year fred
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year, Jay!🙂🙌🏻🙌🏻
@SherKhan-b1kes
@SherKhan-b1kes Жыл бұрын
A very interesting (as always from Freddie!) article, especially to hear what Danny had to say and why. This summer I‘d have been riding motorcycles for 50 years which at the end of the day you‘re left with asking yourself the following questions; What do you intend to do with the motorcycle? 1) Just commuting? 2) Day Trips only ? 3) Weekends? 4) Holidays for at least a week ? Sure, an Adventure motorcycle can tick all these boxes. Following this there’s then what that bike should cost. These were the questions I asked back in my days as a motorcycle salesman in a showroom. I‘m lucky (and privileged) to have got to the stage of possessing 3 bikes, a TW125 for town, shopping and commuting whilst my 97 Vfr750f comes out for the long distance stuff. Me 72 BSA 650 is off the road cos she hardly got ridden. Maybe some of us are able to have a second bike as Danny mentioned but, it’s easy to see why nowadays the Adventure bikes have literally become a „Jack of all Trades.“
@mantarayal
@mantarayal Жыл бұрын
This was brilliant guys. Happy new year!! Bikes are horses for courses. And some cool-looking soul bikes look great until you see people sitting on them. And riding them. Just buy the bike that works for you, no matter the size, style, or make.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year, and very well said!🙂👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
@Sandro-vx3yx
@Sandro-vx3yx Жыл бұрын
A good discussion. There is no wrong bike, because there is the right bike for everyone. The passion and spirit of motorcycling unites us motorcyclists. Happy New Year and good and safe rides 2023.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Absolutely 100%🏍🏍🏍🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼 Happy New Year!
@jimmarshall807
@jimmarshall807 Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year! Danny seems like a good guy
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year Jim! Danny was a natural🙂
@garycowan7445
@garycowan7445 Жыл бұрын
Great insight into our personal choices. I suppose I think about going back to a cruiser from my adventure bike more than I would like to admit. They do have a lot more character nicer sound etc Thanks though very enjoyable
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Very interesting to hear your flip side of this, Gary! Happy New Year🙂
@zachariaszut
@zachariaszut Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year Modern Classic Adventurero.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year!🙂
@johntruman6571
@johntruman6571 Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year to you and Monika Freddie. Thanks also to Danny for sharing his journey. Having owned and ridden all sorts of bikes over the years (sports bikes Classic Z1000s and 900s, old Meriden Triumphs. I'm now riding a Triumph 2010 Scrambler. So not so different from your 2010 Bonneville. Ultimately, these days I prefer the simplicity and the sheer, basic pleasure of a modern classic, riding with my wife Els on her 2012 T100 Bonneville. The problem with motorcyles is that there will always be something different / better out there. Freddie, you seem so at home on your Bonneville. Please don't give up on it too lightly. I think you may regret it...
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Thank you John, I love my Bonneville even more now than when I first bought it and I now have no plans to sell❤️🏍🙂 Sending you all my very best!
@bikeaholic6386
@bikeaholic6386 Жыл бұрын
That was a great video, very informative for me. I've currently got a Guzzi Bellagio and have been to and fro regarding whether to change it for an adventure bike as I do find them appealing and I think I'd use it more in more types of weather and conditions. Also age is now starting to play a bigger part in my decisions, with more aches and pains appearing as the years go on 😞 This was a great insight into the practical experience of making the move and definitely food for thought. Thank you Danny and Freddie, superb content as always and Happy New Year to you and Monika 😊
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
The Bellagio- that is a bike I never see (I had to google it and I love it!😍).delighted you found the video interesting, thank you so much and Happy NY!
@stuartmoles843
@stuartmoles843 Жыл бұрын
Happy new year to Monika and yourself Freddie. I reckon bikers change their bikes more often motorists and cars, I’ve currently convinced myself that I need a 1920’s flat tanker in my life, absolutely no idea why! Hats off to the blood bikers out there also, they provide an amazing and valuable service.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year, Stuart🙂 I know the feeling as I’ve pretty much convinced myself that I need a Harley Street Glide! Well said re the Blood Bikers🩸
@stevezahn8056
@stevezahn8056 Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t everybody need one of those? Sounds like a fine idea to me.
@johntruman6571
@johntruman6571 Жыл бұрын
@@FreddieDobbs We hired and rode a Harley Street Glide through the Smoky Mountains of Tennessee back in 2018. It was a great bike to ride in the States, and I've owned non faired, big twins in UK. But right now, I wouldn't be on anything other than my Triumph Scrambler. It's great on the roads of our country, which ultimately, I think it (the modern classic range, including your Bonneville) was designed for.
@stevebolton8471
@stevebolton8471 Жыл бұрын
@@johntruman6571Since buying a 21 T100 Ex-demo in May and riding 3.5k miles on it I think the term Roadster sums up the experience of riding a Bonnevile.
@martyshmanka
@martyshmanka Жыл бұрын
Hey Freddie. Just so happens I have 2022 Street Twin AND a 2021 Tiger 900. Love them both and they are a great pair of bikes to own and choose from given the purpose of the ride and my preference for the day.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
This is a perfect pair- it’d be pretty close to my idea of a dream🖤🏍🏍👌🏻👌🏻
@davidebyrne
@davidebyrne Жыл бұрын
Great video guys, thank you. I’m currently facing this dilemma with an R Nine T that I love but miss the wanting to stay on the bike all day and travel far and wide. Decision made, its an Adventure bike in 2023 👍
@alanbarnes2920
@alanbarnes2920 Жыл бұрын
Attend the Adventure Bike Rider Festival at Ragley Hall in June..it’s fab and you’ll see lots of other like minded riders too.
@ianclarke4814
@ianclarke4814 Жыл бұрын
Happy New year Freddie Great video but can't wait to get back to your normal format Fully understand the adventure bike think but to me it's one step from owning a car or gold wing
@Oldman.Roaming
@Oldman.Roaming Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year Freddie, have been watching several of your videos in the last day. Love the way you go about the topics. Nice job! If I can shoot some constructive criticism, the sun in front of the camera is a big no no. Im starting my own vlog soon (once my gear is complete). Keep up the good work and spreading the love for bikes.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tip- I’ll remember this🙂
@DrKampfpudding
@DrKampfpudding Жыл бұрын
I'm glad he found his motorcycle category ! But for me , if I want to be cocooned and sheltered from the weather , and ride in comfort , I'll take the car. I myself have done 7 hour rides on my SV 650 and the comfort was okay I guess , I didn't care much about it , I was thinking about hitting the next corner . But maby that will change with age , I'm only 23 . Also, happy new year :)
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Great to hear your thoughts and Happy New Year!🙂
@mrcintheuk4641
@mrcintheuk4641 Жыл бұрын
I used to have three bikes in the garage, then two with one of them being a winter hack but now I'm down to one that does everything I use a bike for.
@darrentaylor2473
@darrentaylor2473 Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year!... I cant believe how much this fits my current situation. I have a 2021 Triumph Bobber which I completely love and would hate to sell but I recently got an entry level Adventure bike and I am now completely sold on them. The versatility makes me question selling both and upgrading to the KTM 1290.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
This is almost an exact matching scenario- please do let me know what you end up doing. I now completely understand this- these Adv bikes are stunningly good and while a 1300cc engine sounds ridiculous… I would probably end up picking the big one too!❤️🏍😆
@darrentaylor2473
@darrentaylor2473 Жыл бұрын
Well by way of an update the Bobber and I are due to part ways in 2 weeks and I have ordered a brand new Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro... I can hardly believe it myself but adventure bikes have won me over....... for now!
@MCB_Teach
@MCB_Teach Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year! You have done some great videos since starting your channel, but I really enjoyed this one for different reasons, I loved listening to Danny’s bike journey, him being a new rider and moving away from the modern classics for the much more practical ride. While watching I’m thinking how could you sell both of them beauties for the Ktm, as I love modern classic and Harley’s, but Danny so eloquently described the reason for the change, with great questioning from yourself, made me want to really try an adventure bike in the future to see for myself.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year! I’m delighted you enjoyed the video- Danny did a very good job of winning me round too- he gets his point of view across extremely well🙂
@PowerYacht
@PowerYacht Жыл бұрын
I had a similar process but mine was seven years plus in the making. I was dreaming of a retro bike back in 2015, and ultimately bought a used 2013 Moto Guzzi V7 Racer, I replaced that in 2017 with a 2013 Harley Davidson Sportster Custom XL1200C, I bought a second HD in 2019 with a 2016 Dyna Street Bob TC103 (sold in 2020) and kept the Sportster. Owner two bikes where not for me. Anyways long story short this past November I bought a 2020 Ducati Multistrada 950S. I have been pondering adv-bikes the last two / three years for the versatility and do it all purpose.
@simonarius
@simonarius Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year Freddie. I know a couple of Blood Bikers in the North West (Blackpool area). Great video and nicely informative as usual. Danny seems a decent guy and I hope he makes more appearances on your channel. I agree about bikers swapping machines far more often that car owners.. In the past 7 years I have owned 13 bikes (including 3 BMW 1200GS’s).. I have now settled back onto a 2008 Suzuki GSX1400 FE (Final Edition). Its my favourite all round bike.. Keep up the good work on your channel Best wishes, S.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year Simon!🙂 This is something I haven’t heard too much; leaving GS ownership. Great to hear of your experience, thank you🙌🏻
@TheWuseln
@TheWuseln Жыл бұрын
I have been riding an Africa Twin for the last two years. It's good, reliable etc. Yesterday I rode for the first time after a decade my Ducati ST2, only 40 kilometers but packed with grinning, joy and emotions.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
What a pair to own! I can imagine the Ducati is quite an experience🇮🇹❤️🏍
@Mallibon-fu1jh
@Mallibon-fu1jh Жыл бұрын
One of your best videos
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Thank you!🙂🙌🏻
@deanchild9848
@deanchild9848 Жыл бұрын
Excellent New Year video to start 2023
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dean🙌🏻🙌🏻
@deanchild9848
@deanchild9848 Жыл бұрын
@@FreddieDobbs your welcome and i am looking forward to see what you produce in 2023 :)
@documotory
@documotory Жыл бұрын
Very interesting talk. I get both perspectives as I am coming from a midrange ADV-Tourer (well, I still own it) and I'm super happy now with my RnineT Scrambler, even on long(er) trips. But I'm glad Danny kept his retro gear and wan't to encourage him to use it once in a while on the KTM. There is nothing wrong with a little bit of style on an adventure bike. ;)
@teneretraveller8980
@teneretraveller8980 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. To each their own. I think we all go through our own motorcycle journey and end ip in our own place. For me it's about low speed low tech big mile travel. I need to be able to fix it if it ever breaks and take it wherever I want. But that's just me. Ride your own dream. If you've never been I can heartily recommend the Norfolk and Suffolk aviation museum. It's an amazing place. Happy New year and happy, safe travels 👍
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Very well said and thank you for the tip on the museum- I’ve never heard of it before🙂 Happy New Year!
@edthecaferacer132
@edthecaferacer132 Жыл бұрын
Happy new year Freddie Great video love the KTM and many other adventure bikes you can do a trackday on a Sunday ride across the Sahara on a Monday or do your shopping and coffee bike meets any other day one of the best adventure bikes I had was the Yamaha 1200 super tenere
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year, Ed! This is so true re Adv bikes- I do have a bigger appreciation for them now❤️🏍
@thepracticalman5905
@thepracticalman5905 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@philwoods2534
@philwoods2534 Жыл бұрын
I came from H-D's, my previous being a Streetglide from which I moved to a Pan American. Having finally rejected the PA, I chose the KTM1290SAS and haven't regretted it for one moment. IN my 50+ years of bike riding in one form and another including professionally, it is simply the best bike I have owned and enjoyed in equal measure. I suspect it could be a keeper until the day I hang my boots up......
@gcosmos960
@gcosmos960 Жыл бұрын
Same here Phil! Such a perfect bike. So I wasn’t the only one moving away from HD to KTM 😅
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Fascinating to hear how highly you rate it with the experience you have, thank you Phil!
@JBond73
@JBond73 Жыл бұрын
Another great video. I myself recently changed from a Ducati Diavel, (cool but so impractical and for me with a athritic left leg uncomfortable) to a Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sports with the DCT. I now ride more and for longer than ever. I’ve loved having many different bikes but the comfort and usability of an adventure bike has changed my riding. Love it. So Freddie, do it. Keep the bonneville if you can but you won’t be disappointed with an adventure bike.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Great to hear from you, Jim! The Africa Twin has always been a bike I’ve admired, and I’ve heard the DCT is SUPERB!
@JBond73
@JBond73 Жыл бұрын
@@FreddieDobbs it’s been a revelation for me. I need a new left knee so gear changes were getting hard and riding felt hard work and dangerous at times. Since having the DCT I find I can concentrate on the ride and the scenery without having to worry about the gear changes. If you’re ever in the Plymouth, Devon area give me a shout. I’d gladly let you have a go on it.
@kramnam4716
@kramnam4716 Жыл бұрын
😊fast forward 5 years Freddie is in a nice Skoda Superb going Wow! What a revelation! I’m warm and dry! 🤣happy new year! 👌
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣 Happy New Year!🎉🎉
@steveh100
@steveh100 Жыл бұрын
Same here, I look a right goon on short bikes, both are great looking bikes though, the power of the KtM is great for long commutes and big roads, I feel the KTM adventure is re-assuringly expensive but nonetheless still expensive, but if you use it for everything it's a winner. Great stuff gentlemen. Happy New Year.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve, and I think you’re absolutely spot on- these Adventure bikes are big money, but I can see where the money’s been spent very clearly👌🏻 Happy New Year!🙂
@supernova52565
@supernova52565 Жыл бұрын
Hi Freddie! Jason Andrewes here from Alberta Canada. Really enjoy your quality content. 2 days ago I just bought a 2022 T100 goldline!!!! Happy new year to you and Monika.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Hello Jason!🙂👋🇨🇦 Oh wow- this is dream bike level! Massive congrats on your new bike!🏍🤘🏼
@supernova52565
@supernova52565 Жыл бұрын
@@FreddieDobbs thanks buddy, you were a part of the reason I went for it
@zedd165
@zedd165 Жыл бұрын
HAPPY NEW YEAR , Freddie .
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year!😀🎉🎉🎉🎉
@martynpearce4754
@martynpearce4754 Жыл бұрын
Nice comparison of the two bikes and it shows how each bike is down to requirements of rider. But noone is going to take a second glance at the KTM on the road. I like that people look at and comment on my Bonnie! 😁
@anuven4
@anuven4 Жыл бұрын
Music, old amplifier, Dolby atmos, really good examples. Am also in same boat as Danny. Instead of adjusting to a motorcycle i always wanted to get one which suits me. Now holding the ground with honda CB500X it almost tick ever box. Happy New Year. 😊
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs Жыл бұрын
A very good point re adjusting to fit a bike vs buying a bike that actually fits one’s requirements. Happy New Year!🙂
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