From Scrap to Stock: Pulling Wire
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3 жыл бұрынTurn scrap metal into a workable 20-gauge wire with the help of John Sartin. As part of the recycling metal series, John demonstrated how to cast a silver ingot from scrap in part one ( • From Scrap to Stock: S... ) and fashions that ingot into a functional sheet in part two ( • From Scrap to Stock: R... ), in this final installment, follow John as he transformers that silver sheet into workable wire. Watch as he demonstrates the process and shares valuable tips and techniques from his years of expertise.
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@AceBullion Жыл бұрын
I appreciate this was over a year ago, but thank you for the information. I am AceBullion, self taught, I started a few years ago. I progressed from making simple graphite pours ( all hallmarked ) to complex designs. I am now moving and challenging myself with new skills. So thank you. This was rather educational
@patrickosullivan4354 3 жыл бұрын
What an outstanding series! You just covered an entire semester's worth of my jewellery degree in less than an hour.
@patrickosullivan4354 3 жыл бұрын
And I made $23,000 last month twerking from home.
@aadarshsaraf7959 10 ай бұрын
!?
@DreidMusicalX 9 ай бұрын
@@patrickosullivan4354 Um, where do I sign up for the twerking classes for earning that kind of money? I'm ready to start I think.
@sandrasherman7666 2 жыл бұрын
the thoroughness and detailed information in all of John Sartin’s videos support the highest professional standards -👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@RioGrande1944 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words, Sandra! We are glad you liked the video.
@sharon3530 2 жыл бұрын
Wouwww! I’ve never seen everything in these series explained SO WELL! You answered of the questions I’ve ever had! You can bet I’ll be playing them over and over while I do them myself. 🎶 I’m a happy girl I’m a happy happy girl! Thanks so much!
@barbkaper5689 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent series (3) of videos! Great instructor! Thank you!
@BlueLineofthesky 3 жыл бұрын
YOU Sir, are an excellent teacher. Thank you!
@iliketurtles2993 Жыл бұрын
Well made, thanks for helping I wasn’t sure what pliers to use!
@geeder9086 11 ай бұрын
Really excellent videos -- you cover so many points that others seem unaware of.
@chriscook6285 Жыл бұрын
An INSANE amount of work, But I have to admit that following your method here made the best wire ever for me today. 🙏🙏🙏
@RioGrande1944 Жыл бұрын
We are glad it worked for you.
@Max-ek4dn Жыл бұрын
Thank you, you really are the only information on this proccess i could find on yt and it is very well made
@Jezza586 3 жыл бұрын
Huge thumbs ups. Such a helpful video, THANK YOU JOHN!!
@RioGrande1944 3 жыл бұрын
Jasmine G, thank you for watching!
@AngelaSams 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you John! I learned many useful tips in this series. You are a fantastic teacher! More, please.
@paullemay3218 3 жыл бұрын
Great information. Thank you for sharing. 🇨🇦❤️
@marcfruchtman9473 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Thank you for making this video.
@alicerosa6766 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video, I really needed to know all the information you give us. Keep up your great work 👏 👍.
@RioGrande1944 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Thank you!
@Caimille 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this video!
@Hana12345 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thank you!
@HellHoundOne Жыл бұрын
Damn guy. You make it look easy, and give me hope ❤
@oneshotme 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
@randymurray934 11 ай бұрын
This information in invaluable, thanks for sharing
@bassoongal7879 Жыл бұрын
I've been doing this for the past few days with 14k yellow gold wire to make laser wire that is .20 mm thick. It's satisfying, yet tiring
@HellHoundOne Жыл бұрын
Wow. Did you video this? Would be awesome to see.
@simes333 2 жыл бұрын
It was fascinating thanks so much
@RioGrande1944 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watcing we appreciate you support!
@DreidMusicalX 9 ай бұрын
Hey thanks so much for this information in the video. I am still learning while I create stones and get my other equipment. I am just now this week getting my milling machine and have got a lot of other stuff I needed. I would like to ask if possible what are you using in the pan where you placed your wire to anneal it? Is that a special stone that is not toxic when it gets hot? Or is it an entire unit you can buy?
@johnlowry1055 2 жыл бұрын
good wire pulling details
@RioGrande1944 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you we appreciate the support! 🙂
@ryangramb2294 Жыл бұрын
Hello , ty for teaching me stuff
@RioGrande1944 Жыл бұрын
It is our pleasure!
@Sungaze-px3rb 3 ай бұрын
Draw plates, can make wires from scrap metal. Copper is just one type. Though that will begin again. Iron is everywhere. I like hemp plastics and they're also conducive so alot of experiments need to occur but we're going to keep our tech. And advance this world into the cosmos, not stone age. And each person isn't an island, think village and collective talents.
@Rachieroxapples Жыл бұрын
I have heard when pulling metal through the rolls, one should put it through the same direction everytime. In your video, you mention that you change direction every second roll. Does this really helprather than hinder? Please explain. Thank you 😊
@shibbidydoowop 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@RioGrande1944 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@damnimsolucky7 2 жыл бұрын
So cool 😎
@RioGrande1944 2 жыл бұрын
We are glad you liked it!
@Rachieroxapples Жыл бұрын
I have a new plate and when I pull silver through, it scrapes and cuts the silver instead of squeezing it. I am using lubricant and the wire is anealed. Do you have any suggestions to fix this or is it because the draw plate is rubbish? Thank you 😊
@kevinmcleod6329 3 жыл бұрын
Are there rolling mills that roll out round stock vs. having to reduce a square to a round?
@RioGrande1944 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, there definitely are round rolling mills, www.riogrande.com/product/durston-130mm-full-round-combination-rolling-mill/113244
@mciuan Жыл бұрын
How long of a wire and at what gauge did that make?
@nanlay629 2 жыл бұрын
Hi I pulling the silver wire 4mm 925 silver pulling with winch the (tungsten carbide)draw plate hole is crack why.I using wax and oil
@martinh.4007 5 күн бұрын
Why didnt you use your roller mill to the finest groove but started using drawplate?
@MikeG-js1jt 9 ай бұрын
how much 20 gauge wire can i make with a .25" diameter 3" long ingot.............. is there an online calculator for this?
@jmiller046 2 жыл бұрын
If I have a fire stained piece of metal, can I re-cast the whole thing to get rid of it?
@polosandoval Жыл бұрын
You most certainly can.
@haydenquakenbush8626 2 жыл бұрын
What in the world!! I can't draw wire to save my life! My billet is way smaller than this starting out and no matter how hard I pull it won't draw. My silver snaps before it ever pulls through, I bought a hand wench because when I tried pulling by hand there was just no use, but the wench just pulls the silver apart, regardless if my silver is freshly annealed or work hardened. Can the draw plate just be junk? I've made rings, have never had any issues with soldering or any other techniques that I've learned, but I want to make a chain but it is not going well so far! Lol
@RioGrande1944 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Hayden, we can't say anything for certain about your particular draw plate, but there are indeed good and not-so-good versions out there. Draw plates with tungsten inserts are easier to pull through, especially larger gauge material, and especially by hand. A draw bench makes the process exponentially easier, almost effortless. The taper you give the the end of the wire is very important, and a longer more gradual taper will really help. Also make sure you are not trying to make too much of a reduction at one time. As far as the billet breaking, are you using good clean silver without solder contamination? How many times has the silver been recycled? If more than a couple times and you are sure there is no solder contamination, try recasting with at least 50% new material. And lastly, when you start the pull the wire, DO NOT STOP! If you stop before the wire is finished, you might never get it re-started. We hope this helps, and please let us know if you have any other questions.
@BuildingPersephone Жыл бұрын
I'm using a Durston draw plate and tongs and I have a terrible time with the leader end constantly snapping off as I pull the wire through. What is going wrong?
@RioGrande1944 Жыл бұрын
Hello, thank you for the question. Here is a response from our tech team: You could be clamping too tightly and kind of smashing the end, its not uncommon. Also you should go in order and not skip any holes that will be smoother from step to step. You could try annealing a little more often. Also take a close look at the wire and make sure it doesn’t have any micro cracks or Fissures
@BuildingPersephone Жыл бұрын
@@RioGrande1944 Hi, thanks for the advice. Sadly I am doing all of that already. I'm using the tension draw tongs, which only clamp when pulled and so the force of the clamp is directly related to the force of the pull (which is very gingerly applied). Also, not only am I not skipping holes, but I've started running the wire through the same hole two or three times before moving on, just to make sure it gets rounded evenly. I'm also anealling more or less every other hole (I have done it with less anealling and it doesn't seem to matter either way). I think what might be happening though is that the square edges of the rod are curling over in a burr and forming a void in the wire, which is weakening it. So, I'll try to round them out a little more as I go.
@janadubcova92 Жыл бұрын
Why not hammer the tip of the we're to fit it through the draw plate? Is it possible?
@RioGrande1944 Жыл бұрын
Mainly because the material is much smaller, using a hammer becomes a difficult process to get a good taper. Filing is a quick and easy option to get the needed taper for the draw plate without the need for very careful hammering.
@pijnto Жыл бұрын
Why roll the ingot square instead of round?
@TheSilverSmithsBench1 11 ай бұрын
I have reached this level. I made a bench draw plate wire puller. I’ll be earning my way to a proper draw plate wire puller.
@napalmholocaust9093 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree with your assertion that any cast metal will have a very large grain structure. Cooling speed is the cause. If you can quench metals fast enough the crystals will be small. Alloys also can have an effect on nucleation. Especially eutectics.
@polosandoval Жыл бұрын
I anneal the ingot after casting anyway to be sure.
@HellHoundOne Жыл бұрын
@@polosandoval interesting 🤔
@marcussmart3275 8 ай бұрын
You spoke a high cou
@krishnachains7352 9 ай бұрын
You are not a professional
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