Pray for us father !

The catolic church is in Heresy , prest !

@@tristankramer4636 true words

@@alexsheppard153 no one wants to listen to you

@@tristankramer4636 teach him

I enjoy praying and singing at my Novus Ordo mass but I’ve read so many comments like yours. I can’t imagine preferring the LM in a language I don’t understand although I do love learning Latin prayers. During Lent, my church sang the Holy Holy and Lamb of God in Latin which I now know. I even pray part of the Hail Mary in Latin. But the whole mass? I would love to read comments as to why people prefer the LM. There’s only small church in my city, about a 30 min drive, that has a Latin mass. It’s at 8:00am which is very early for me after working a third shift job.

@@jemsmom97 in my opinion the latin of the latin mass isn't why we prefer it because even the novus ordo all in latin it is not the same rite. the preciseness, the atmosphere. nothing can be added or taken away. its a completely different experience. i would find a solemn high mass on youtube to watch.

@@jemsmom97 It has far more to do with the theology of the TLM over the NO. It is no secret that the NO was put together by liturgists who were no experts in their field, with the help of protestants. By changing the prayers of the Mass, you change the faith. The NO was designed to encourage protestants back to the Church, by removing as much as possible that would be a stumbling block for them. In so doing, the watered down the faith, and the consequences were not the flooding into the Church of protestant converts, but the exodus of catholics out of the Church. Also, latin being a 'dead' language preserves the liturgy from issues related to how language and words change over time. Latin is not a preference but an obvious choice for any Catholic who is informed re the changes introduced at Vat2 and afterwards by so called experts who sought to destroy the Faith. The fruits of the Church of the New Advent are plain to see. Come back to the TLM, the liturgy of the vast majority of saints throughout the centuries.

@@jemsmom97I understand about the early time being difficult. As I get older, these bones don’t sleep well at night and get up rather late in the morning. We only have access to TLM once a month, on a Sunday evening, where I live. But, when I am in my home in (I don’t want to say the name of the State for fear of losing the blessing), I have access to TLM in the evening ( around supper time - so I eat early). It is a 50 minute drive but worth every second of the drive. I have access to this Mass 6 evenings a week. How blessed! I was young when the NO Mass moved into town but I always remembered the reverence of the TLM. I am slowly learning to follow my expensive (worth every cent) missal. I do know many of my prayers in Latin (there are KZfaq videos to help - but, I have found that once I’ve mastered the pronunciations -thanks Dr.Taylor Marshall- praying the Rosary with Cardinal Burke on You Tube gives me the best practice. Again, you tube videos abound in following the missal, saying the prayers, etc. Once you recognize the reverence and symbolism, and tradition that is involved in the Latin Mass, there’s no turning back.

The Tridentine mass was the mass of my baptism, my1st Holy communion

I attended my first mass on Christmas Day and this is the only mass I will attend now.

@@FaithfullyPatriotic that was our reaction last November 2020. It literally brings me to tears to hear the beautiful chants. It's by the grace of God we have been brought to the forefront of the battle for our Mass .

It wasnt traditional mass when I was young It was Christ's mass partly from the Jews and partly from Rome. God became man and He instituted the Sacraments. Jews had true worship they worshipped the Messiah in advance but, they had the Symbolic Paschal Lamb Sacrifice . The Jewish Passover prayers that Jesus attended with His Apostles on the night He was betrayed are in the Tridentine Mass. No Human can change the Sacraments instituted by Jesus Christ. The words said in the Temple are His Death Prayers. Why did the Temple fall? The Jews didn't recognize He was the Messiah and the Paschal Lamb had to go because He is the Lamb. Also they rejected Jesus Christ before Pilate when they said "We have no King but Caesar " It was drummed into Catholics at school in Ireland that the Tridentine is the Perpetual Sacrifice and can't be changed yet, most without question changed. Scripture Shortly after the Jews gain Israel the Perpetual Sacrifice will be removed and the Abomination of Desolation replaced therin then comes the end of time for the Gentiles. Jews got Israel in 1948 Vatican11 Imposters and Apostates and Hirelings 1963.

Have you since been back to the Tradition?

what is really needed I have been hearing much about the controversy regarding the Latin mass. Really! There is so much pain, suffering, child abuse & injustice in the world, yet petty bureaucrats spend their time on this made-up insignificant problem! I understand people ‘s concern about religious matters & I just listen; let them have their say, but I can no longer be silent on this. This is one big crock of crap. You think an Almighty Being is concerned about which language & customs holy men use as they prance around chanting dribble? As these old useless holy men sit around & engage in their mental masturbation meetings, people are starving for help. Get up off your ass & try helping one another. This entire fiasco is trivia. You let this occupies your time with so many urgent needs to be addressed. Shame! The upside to all this nonsensical bickering is that people can see what a farce religion is & find it easy to leave it behind. All polls show people are leaving this mythological excrement behind. Peace

I did too and couldn’t understand a thing. Glad it’s gone

And he doesn't say a thing about liturgical dancing, but is rigid against reverence and actually being Catholic.

And in truth.

A wonderful way to appreciate the latin mass

I do fully understand why His Holiness issued the motu proprio as it was meant to punish people who weaponize the Missal of 1962, specifically the SSPX. And I do sympathize with that reason since that was something that stunted my reversion to Catholicism for a good while. That being said, I don’t agree with the way His Holiness went about remedying the situation. I think it would have been much more effective if he just excommunicated the SSPX rather than issue this blanket statement. I am also grateful that he made it clear that these restrictions do not apply to the Fraternity or the Institute.

​@@odonnell1218Ok but since you presume the SSPX to be schismatic (they're not), why would the Pope punish those whom won't follow him anyways? You do realize that the only people it punished are those in perfect canonical communion with Rome right? If anything it's going to drastically increase attendance and, more importantly, FUNDING to SSPX parishes.

David Augustine Tan its also much more moving and personal then the multi act play that is the NO

am a huge proponent of the TLM but have trouble agreeing it is "easy to follow" if you've never been exposed to it. what it requires is some gentle education, but once accomplished, an utter delight

if the faithful request it a bishop must respond. Start a petition and get people to sign up to it. Youll be surprised how many want it

@@Beanbag777 Yes! I pray the Holy Spirit moves enough parishioners to do so. I am blessed to live near enough to The Mission at San Juan Capistrano. I'm just starting my journey to Christ's church and know I will prefer the Tridentine mass over the NO. (Novus Ordo, but funny that it's no).

Check out the SSPX .If it wasn't for Arch Bishop Lefebvre the TLM would of been lost. Plus some Bishops have shut the TLM down in Hamilton They can't shut down the SSPX. 🙏

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bcllqNuI2ra2aYk.html

so do do father doo doo

En Chile? Sspx o otra?

Oisín Clancy

Poor you!!! I can hardly believe such nonsense still goes on - I spent several years as an alter boy - I'm absolutely ashamed that I dis not speak out then...too fearful I suppose; but I'll do so from now on...and it seems a very large number of my fellow Irish are doing so too...!!!

NOSTALGIA FOR GOOD OLD DAYS ?

Jose Francis most parish’s with the tlm have people to young to have lived during pre 1962 So, no, it’s a return to tradition from the Protestant NO deception

@@josefrancis7126 A false church a false mass One is Christs, One is Luthers Get it !

Me too

As a protestant looking at this, I have to admit there is a dignity in this form of liturgy. I am from the Anglican faith, and we too have a very dignified form of liturgy, keeping elements of our ancient Catholic heritage, whilst maintaining our protestant theology, a middle way as it is called. So I did enjoy watching this, and maybe I will get the chance to sit and watch this form of the Roman Catholic Mass sometime. I know I could not take communion, but I assume there is no restriction on watching.

John King no there'd be no restriction on attendance apart from, as you said, not receiving communion.

Please explain to me why protestants are excluded from communion, as you are not excluded from our church.

John King to sum it up as briefly and simply as I can we as Catholics believe that when a Catholic priest consecrates Eucharist it becomes the literal Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ. In order to worthily revive this you need to be in a state of Grace and in communion with the Catholic Church. This means to of not have committed a Mortal Sin and to believe and accept all of the Churches teachings. Now I'm not an expert or Theologian but this is the best answer I'm able to give with my knowledge on Church Teaching.

Your here watching a Roman Catholic mass for a reason..... Jesus is calling you

Unless you are eastern catholics, else we are latin/roman rite.

Why is Latin so important when Jesus spoke Aramaic?

@@redeemed7868 Jesus may have spoken a couple languages as he was from Nazareth so spoke probably Aramaic, but there were Romans and Greeks in the areas he traveled to as well. He probably was able to converse with them all. The main languages in the area Jesus travelled to and later the Apostles were Greek, Latin, Aramaic, some Hebrew (don't know if the language was fully extant or used mainly for scripture). Latin is a dead language so the meaning if words do not change. It is the official sacred language of the CC. It was also one of the languages on the Cross above the Lord's head. Up until recently in the history of the Church, the past few decades, the codified Mass of All Ages was always in Latin. It serves to unify, so that anywhere you go to Mass whether in your own town, province, state, country, other countries, you will know you're in the right place, a familiar & trusted place where you understand what is occurring regardless if the people sitting next to you speak a language or languages different from yours. Synagogues use Hebrew exclusively, Mosques use Arabic, Eastern Orthodox uses Greek & Latin.... so why should the RCC not use Latin? Why is the CC the only one blasted regarding this & expected to conform to something no one even asked for to begin with? Interesting fact.... RC Exorcists have reported that after using the more recent translation/form, they are returning back to the Latin Rite because it is indeed more potent. Reportedly the dæmons hate it, so we as RCs love it!

Nothing about the new mass seem wrong to you?

@@redeemed7868 It is one of the languages written on the the Cross along with Greek, and Hebrew. It is a question between a dead language and a dying language. Every living language is a dying language, even if it does not die. Parts of it are perpetually perishing or changing their sense; there is only one escape from that flux; and a language must die to be immortal. - G.K. Chesterton

RFD

Certainly A Very Blessed Latin Mass and certainly for Catholics too

this is the way mass was before Vatican (KOKO) 2 came along

i was raised in the Tridentine (Latin Mass) then had to adapt to Vatican II which itself was very different (i'll refrain from commenting). we have Usus Antiquior (Tridentine) at my parish and am utterly delighted. deo gratias.

@@onemrpaco ratizenger report has a lot of truths to read. think its like 11 dollars not too much.

you really need to experience a full Missa Solemnis, ideally with choir & deacons/subdeacons. magical and supremely reverent.

I have been to only one Latin High Mass. It was the first Latin Mass of any kind that I had been to, and still the only Latin High Mass. I have been to many many Low Masses, but this first experience left me stunned, inspired, excited, WAY more reverent in my approach to Our Lord; but most of all, it left me searching, studying, watching, and asking why this has been changed. Many of the answers are not a satisfactory answers, because a satisfactory answer doesn't exist, and in light of many of the Vat II documents that were supposed to shed light on this only left me very distrustful of words and legal jargon.

The O.F. Mass requires less work and knowledge for dignified participation by the faithful.

It needs to. Our universal church needs the unchanging meaning of Latin.

I hope you're right...

@@craigrose1130 I went to my first Mass yesterday, N.O., and was able to receive a blessing from the deacon by crossing my arms as I knelt with one knee. It was hardly different from a heartfelt "God bless you" but that, coupled with seeing women in veils genuflecting and receiving communion on tongue; I felt I had come home. To finish on a point of taking communion on the tongue. It took no longer than upon the hands formed into a throne. From what I saw, the tongue wasn't touched, the Host was placed on the tongue, so it seems sanitary; especially as they use alcho-gel! I asked the Pastor and he mentioned that, since two locations already provide TLM, they do not.

But now apparently there are bishops trying to supress it

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Amen 🙏📿 Dominus vobiscum 🙏

ET cum spiritus tuo

Deo gratias !

En español

1. I agree. 2. I love your profile pic!

you are welcome my child of the lord

in nthe realm world I have been hearing much about the controversy regarding the Latin mass. Really! There is so much pain, suffering, child abuse & injustice in the world, yet petty bureaucrats spend their time on this made-up insignificant problem! I understand people ‘s concern about religious matters & I just listen; let them have their say, but I can no longer be silent on this. This is one big crock of crap. You think an Almighty Being is concerned about which language & customs holy men use as they prance around chanting dribble? As these old useless holy men sit around & engage in their mental masturbation meetings, people are starving for help. Get up off your ass & try helping one another. This entire fiasco is trivia. You let this occupies your time with so many urgent needs to be addressed. Shame! The upside to all this nonsensical bickering is that people can see what a farce religion is & find it easy to leave it behind. All polls show people are leaving this mythological excrement behind. Peace

Get a Latin mass missal. Latin and English are side by side so you can easily follow and understand the prayers of the day. It's not complicated. The Latin rite is full of symbolism that is intended to maximize the faithful"s participation in the holy Sacrifice of Our Lord on calvary. Thank you, FSSP, for being a critical contributor to saving the true Catholic church during these dark times .

as a kid of the 50's i too grew up on dialogue masses and miss them terribly - the BEST form of TLM

Hi there. Don't know if this is of any help but some intricacies are mentioned in a free PDF here (p. 6 onwards): archive.ccwatershed.org/media/pdfs/14/06/26/12-34-30_0.pdf Although this was originally designed for children, I found the illustrations so awesome and really helpful for adults, too!

You made the right decision

Even becoming as "presbyterians" can't help :)

NOT AS BAD AS THAT--- THE NEW MASS

The issue is, does the mass, old or new take us to our DESTINATION. Mathew 7/13 says the path is very narrow and the gate very small. And few shall pass and the "many" will be destroyed. Whenever a large number of people agree on some point of faith, its best to look elsewhere. The blind are being led by the blind.

Amen

🌹Amen! Well said! I agree 💯. I pray for the continuation of the Holy Latin Mass and all the priest that are blessed to offer it to Christ! Amen.🙏🙏🙏🦋

People need help I have been hearing much about the controversy regarding the Latin mass. Really! There is so much pain, suffering, child abuse & injustice in the world, yet petty bureaucrats spend their time on this made-up insignificant problem! I understand people ‘s concern about religious matters & I just listen; let them have their say, but I can no longer be silent on this. This is one big crock of crap. You think an Almighty Being is concerned about which language & customs holy men use as they prance around chanting dribble? As these old useless holy men sit around & engage in their mental masturbation meetings, people are starving for help. Get up off your ass & try helping one another. This entire fiasco is trivia. You let this occupies your time with so many urgent needs to be addressed. Shame! The upside to all this nonsensical bickering is that people can see what a farce religion is & find it easy to leave it behind. All polls show people are leaving this mythological excrement behind. Peace

Amen

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get real I have been hearing much about the controversy regarding the Latin mass. Really! There is so much pain, suffering, child abuse & injustice in the world, yet petty bureaucrats spend their time on this made-up insignificant problem! I understand people ‘s concern about religious matters & I just listen; let them have their say, but I can no longer be silent on this. This is one big crock of crap. You think an Almighty Being is concerned about which language & customs holy men use as they prance around chanting dribble? As these old useless holy men sit around & engage in their mental masturbation meetings, people are starving for help. Get up off your ass & try helping one another. This entire fiasco is trivia. You let this occupies your time with so many urgent needs to be addressed. Shame! The upside to all this nonsensical bickering is that people can see what a farce religion is & find it easy to leave it behind. All polls show people are leaving this mythological excrement behind. Peace

I have read that this was done at the Shrine of the Most Blessed Sacrament in Hanceville, Alabama, USA.

what really matters I have been hearing much about the controversy regarding the Latin mass. Really! There is so much pain, suffering, child abuse & injustice in the world, yet petty bureaucrats spend their time on this made-up insignificant problem! I understand people ‘s concern about religious matters & I just listen; let them have their say, but I can no longer be silent on this. This is one big crock of crap. You think an Almighty Being is concerned about which language & customs holy men use as they prance around chanting dribble? As these old useless holy men sit around & engage in their mental masturbation meetings, people are starving for help. Get up off your ass & try helping one another. This entire fiasco is trivia. You let this occupies your time with so many urgent needs to be addressed. Shame! The upside to all this nonsensical bickering is that people can see what a farce religion is & find it easy to leave it behind. All polls show people are leaving this mythological excrement behind. Peace

The SSPX is in a state of non-approval from the church, and their clergy is not approved and appointed by Bishops in communion with the Pope. Go to their Masses, yes, particularly if you don't have a Latin Mass as a choice, but steer clear from their Clergy's Theology.

@@luxither7354 I don't think so...