FSU Law Professor Murder Trial Day 7 Witness Spc Agt Patrick Sanford Wiretap Recordings Part 4

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FSU Law Professor Murder Trial Day 7 Witness Spc Agt Patrick Sanford Wiretap Recordings Part 4
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@dita8786
@dita8786 Жыл бұрын
This judge is on his game
@Prosper310
@Prosper310 4 жыл бұрын
This judge is a boss!
@RayofLightTarot
@RayofLightTarot 2 жыл бұрын
Garcia’s attorney thinks he’s so very clever, yet he proves again & again just how intelligent he is NOT.
@ellafacebooktruecrimecases3644
@ellafacebooktruecrimecases3644 Жыл бұрын
Yup he thinks he’s so amazing but judge shuts him down every time
@sacredcoaching7332
@sacredcoaching7332 Жыл бұрын
Lmao! I’m a year late on this, but literally said almost the exact same! 😂
@allday-xx4zw
@allday-xx4zw 10 ай бұрын
I think he is smart but he was tried to fight a losing battle. Like there was 0 to little chance he could win but he still tried it
@ronedgington2179
@ronedgington2179 9 ай бұрын
Not one question asked advanced his client’s case.
@marshapieroni6677
@marshapieroni6677 8 ай бұрын
This detective made a fool of him. So did Rivera.
@Flatbush4Life
@Flatbush4Life 4 жыл бұрын
Garcia should have got a Public Defender. They probably would have done a better job.
@keithr2835
@keithr2835 4 жыл бұрын
A Public Defender probably would have advised him to take a plea deal. This lawyer is so arrogant that he thought they had a chance to win.
@trina4205
@trina4205 3 жыл бұрын
Paul Dalnoky that drove me nuts! I’m so surprised the judge didn’t tell him not to lay down in his courtroom.
@psmith9789
@psmith9789 2 жыл бұрын
Who paid for his private attorneys?
@estherdoyle6408
@estherdoyle6408 Жыл бұрын
U are so right, I feel bad for him
@kismutt1
@kismutt1 4 жыл бұрын
Luis Rivera, has been the most credible witness. I believe every word he said. Charlie and Wendi, are guilty as hell.
@edwardharris7332
@edwardharris7332 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, most of what he said is backed up by other testimony or evidence.
@margaretlee-reed814
@margaretlee-reed814 4 жыл бұрын
Disagree … he didn't disclose during the plea deal that HE was to KILL Dan Markel a month prior in JUNE 2014. But, instead furthered his plea deal by stating HE doesn't kill people, never had and wouldn't kill nobody over some kids (for the JULY 2014 murder). But, apparently he WOULD kill somebody over some kids just a month or so prior. And, although he was PAID for this CRIME and KNOWS the ADELSON'S made that payment he still points the finger at Magbanua but, can give no specifics or evidence to support that claim. And, may be protecting Jessica and her involvement or just knowledge of HIS crime & prior involvement. Jessica 'found' the money …. Rivera admits in plea deal he told her not to touch it. Is there any evidence that Katie was paid? (No) Any evidence that she is aware of a payment? (No) Any evidence that she is even aware of Garcia's alleged payment? (No) Where was her cellphone ping when she contacted Rivera looking for Garcia; the father of her children? What side of town? Wasn't she with Charlie the night before the homicide? Or, did she go home? And, her friend continued to care for the kids over night because so late. Did Charlie attempt to set Magbanua up the way Wendi set up Jeffrey? Where was Katie's cell phone pings over the next few hours? Did it EVER ping at Jessica's house? Certainly it would have …. if ever even there. But, yet this evidence wasn't presented during all of those long and drawn out cell phone forensics. Correct? And, why is Rivera so vague about the remainder of the alleged 100K. He's very clear he received 35K for 'driving' and that Garcia received 40K for 'shooting'. But, when asked about Magbanua's alleged portion (which would be exactly 25K if he can add/subtract) he just states …. Oh, Magbanua she got the 'rest' of the money? He doesn't know? Or, it didn't happen. Maybe? Or, did Jessica get paid …. and Rivera claims 'her money' deposited was from him …. for their kids. So, Jessica didn't get paid the 'rest'? Later Rivera claims he and Garcia split the money (75K) 50/50. That Garcia gave him an extra $2,500.00 from the money (they) received. Is there proof 100K was ever paid? To these three individuals; including Magbanua? (No) What about a different go between? Jeffrey was set up to look guilty via Wendi's angle …. might Magbanua have also been set up via Charlie's angle. And, neither Adelson cared which angle police chased down. Because in their minds; from their perception, they believed any investigations would lead to a dead end … as those people were not involved in anything. PERHAPS. [Unless, Magbanua was approached by Charlie and never told Charlie that Garcia was asked and never told Garcia who it was for? And, ALSO enlisted Rivera in JUNE 2014 without any contact made with Rivera?] *All while knowing there is a connection between Charlie and Rivera …. because of drugs. Not to mention could Katie have thought that any money that exchanged hands; presuming she's even aware, was because of a drug pick up for … Charlie … by Rivera (and or Garcia)? Just to be sure. Difficult to say …. when someone is SO inconsistent with their statements. Selective memory. But, he sure remembers …. "I think Dan Markel was on the phone that day". Even through the alcohol and cocaine frenzied murder. One thing is clear …. Garcia is madly head over heels for Katie …. and he never once attempted or even talked about ….. shooting Charlie. Not even after being paid 40K. Who is King Anthony (King Tu)? What is his relationship to King Tato (Rivera)? And, why is King Anthony dead - murdered? When did that happen? And, had King Tu ever been to Tallahassee before …. with or without River (or Garcia)? And, had he ever had any contact with the Adelson's? And, if so … what year? 2013 or 2014? Just to be clear.
@bobbiehinds
@bobbiehinds 4 жыл бұрын
@@margaretlee-reed814 I so agree with you.
4 жыл бұрын
Your wrong dude or dudette.. Buddy said that he would never kill anyone that has their children around them, and that when hes went into peoples homes to rob them or do what ever, that hes always made sure there was no kids in the place before him and his crew went in, what you dont think a leader of a really bad street gang has taken someone out before? You have to kill someone just to get in the gang and if hes a leader born into it he still gives the command and its no different...
@estherdoyle5939
@estherdoyle5939 4 жыл бұрын
I agree I believed him every word he said, he was a nice guy he just took the wrong path in life no guidance and this is the result
@jodib2895
@jodib2895 4 жыл бұрын
This judge is great, he’s very fair, I love that
@frozenboot68
@frozenboot68 4 жыл бұрын
I like how at 2:17 he was mid eye roll with the comment from defence when the prosecution responded and he had to admonish them both like they were children. priceless.
@Liverpoolboy01
@Liverpoolboy01 2 жыл бұрын
Of course he is he denied, defence so many times
@debbiemartin2026
@debbiemartin2026 Жыл бұрын
@@Liverpoolboy01 Except he didnt let a written transcript in as evidence for the Dolce Vita wiretap. If he would have their may not have been a second trial Sorry thats for Jodi!
@Ferrucci_1666
@Ferrucci_1666 3 жыл бұрын
This interview at his job is so tense and the energy is so high lol. The agent is so high strung when talking and nervous.
@cbean0017
@cbean0017 2 жыл бұрын
Probably coked up
@hannahaprent233
@hannahaprent233 Жыл бұрын
And so unprofessional the way it was handled, done and where!
@melissa44161968
@melissa44161968 4 жыл бұрын
The worst defense attorneys I have ever seen. They asked the same questions over and over again. The judge is amazing!!! This trial will be a movie in the near future...so much drama!
@frozenboot68
@frozenboot68 4 жыл бұрын
"there's a woman in the room! she must've been a stenographer taking notes....oh, what? she may have been an attorney? oh haha..haha"
@alicianottkeys337
@alicianottkeys337 3 жыл бұрын
Who is the defense attorney ? I seriously want to throat check him! What is his issue with gang affiliation? That’s not even why there is a trial. Lord! Please guide me so that I turn out like him 🙏🏽
@peaceandlove7824
@peaceandlove7824 3 жыл бұрын
melissa44161968 when the victim’s mother in law as well as his brother in law are indicted.
@bobbieboomboomkelly
@bobbieboomboomkelly 3 жыл бұрын
Hope they keep them in the movie , need to have them represented as the fools they are
@patbrown2699
@patbrown2699 Жыл бұрын
Quite critical for someone that doesn't have a law degree, (lucky guess)
@bjd1380
@bjd1380 4 жыл бұрын
I think Garcia’s attorney secretly wants to be a Latin King lol
@Beachbucket
@Beachbucket 3 жыл бұрын
Omg!!!! Dying! Dead!
@Beachbucket
@Beachbucket 3 жыл бұрын
Well yeah, think of all clients he would have, he might already be one!
@peaceandlove7824
@peaceandlove7824 3 жыл бұрын
😂🤣
@peaceandlove7824
@peaceandlove7824 3 жыл бұрын
Smokey 66 🤣
@michellededmon6711
@michellededmon6711 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think it’s a secret! 😂🤣
@cherylmahaffey6184
@cherylmahaffey6184 3 жыл бұрын
I like this Investigator and how he acted Like He was on this Garcia’s side. 👏👏👏👏👏well Done Sir.
@christinabutler7142
@christinabutler7142 3 жыл бұрын
Still shocking! Charlie and his mother are also so disgustingly guilty it's ridiculous. As well probably Wendi! Of course Katherine is guilty! She's the only go between, and Charlie played her like the illiterate she is. They all deserve prison.
@Hannadayflo
@Hannadayflo 5 ай бұрын
She's a vary savvy criminal
@DrNatemiester
@DrNatemiester 5 ай бұрын
She obtained a college degree… she’s a criminal, but not illiterate.
@MF-qw5wl
@MF-qw5wl 3 жыл бұрын
The Tallahassee Democrat reported that Magbanua has been offered immunity in the case in exchange for testimony against the Adelsons, but that offer was denied. THIS WOMAN DOES NOT CARE ABOUT HER LIFE
@marshapieroni6677
@marshapieroni6677 2 жыл бұрын
She sure should have taken a deal
@sportsbadcalls334
@sportsbadcalls334 Жыл бұрын
@@marshapieroni6677 glad she didn't ...she will never have to worry about moving when the cops are looking for her again.
@ritayammouni2803
@ritayammouni2803 Жыл бұрын
Or her children 😡
@anitaholst7671
@anitaholst7671 5 ай бұрын
Actually she was AFRAID to take a deal that could result in her death.
@ch4tr4n58
@ch4tr4n58 2 жыл бұрын
That poor attorney trying and trying and trying so hard to conect this case to a "latin king hit"! Its almost pitty!!! Hahahaha!! And very funny too!!!
@amills9261
@amills9261 3 жыл бұрын
god I would HATE to be a juror! What is the attorney’s point!? How is this line of questioning relevant?
@nearlythenewswithvicki9289
@nearlythenewswithvicki9289 4 жыл бұрын
Whats the deal with Garcias 2 counsel (attorney) laying back in that chair like he’s bored and napping?
@joralemonvirgincreche
@joralemonvirgincreche 2 ай бұрын
Lying, not laying!
@Ferrucci_1666
@Ferrucci_1666 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know how much money Garcia paid for his attorney, but he was better off defending himself. His attorney was all over the place during his cross examination of prosecution witnesses. His client Garcia is facing the death penalty yet his attorney is speculating about used car prices. 😂😂😂. The attorney seems to be hard up for Wendi Adelson as well in a sexual way. His focus was more on her lips and hair than her guilt.
@Hannadayflo
@Hannadayflo 5 ай бұрын
How so?
@williammarshfield8919
@williammarshfield8919 Жыл бұрын
Feds should have contacted the seller of Monte Carlo. Would have verified the stapled 100 dollar bills from adelson
@emptypockets2467
@emptypockets2467 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't hire Garcia's attorney for a J-walking ticket.
@michellededmon6711
@michellededmon6711 3 жыл бұрын
🤣😂
@Bellini-Bellini
@Bellini-Bellini 4 жыл бұрын
Is the defense really grabbing at Blue Book straws? Really?!!
@La_Ru-yg8es
@La_Ru-yg8es 4 жыл бұрын
Well, they don't have much to work with. 😑
@How_Lay
@How_Lay 4 жыл бұрын
Haha took me an hour to understand this comment.. 😂😂
@douglasloper9295
@douglasloper9295 3 жыл бұрын
Disgusting that the family really responsible for this murder remain uncharged.
@sportsbadcalls334
@sportsbadcalls334 Жыл бұрын
one by one your disgust is being relieved.
@torilllundborn7899
@torilllundborn7899 8 ай бұрын
Perhaps Adelson family have relatives inside the court.system that hinder breakdance.through. What do we the audiens anxiely know...in this all this
@katharina...
@katharina... 6 ай бұрын
​@@torilllundborn7899They are very closely connected to the Weinsteins (politicians in Florida). Michael Weinstein was even Charlie Adelson's lawyer at some point. This no longer seems to matter though (if it ever did), fingers crossed they'll all go down for this crime now.
@keriissovery9566
@keriissovery9566 6 ай бұрын
@@katharina...I was gonna say that doesn’t seem to help them lol
@markminister2599
@markminister2599 2 жыл бұрын
Well, you will never hug your 9 and 4 year old again.
@ogcatlady
@ogcatlady 3 жыл бұрын
I skip over Garcia's attorneys shenanigans. I cannot stand his obsession with the Latin Kings and trying to turn this into some kind of gang related hit or whatever his idea is 🥱🤨
@theultimatelearningexperie3636
@theultimatelearningexperie3636 6 ай бұрын
This judge is the perfect role model for many future attorneys or judges.
@KamalaBiden
@KamalaBiden 2 жыл бұрын
An FBI Special Agent who doesn’t know what RICO stands for. 🤦🏼‍♂️
@anitaholst7671
@anitaholst7671 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, that was very interesting.
@janina8559
@janina8559 3 жыл бұрын
Yep yep he killed him for money! The whole Family pitched in so send them to prison!
@vlogsquad7259
@vlogsquad7259 4 жыл бұрын
This defences attorney is painful to listen to,just random and getting nowhere,!!!!!
@MiriamJL
@MiriamJL 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll never watch another LC video a year after it’s originally posted again. It’s like watching commercials with a few moments of this trial. Ridiculous
@my1vice
@my1vice 2 жыл бұрын
There are clues to the case in the ads. Shhhhhhh.
@CatalinaFOIA
@CatalinaFOIA Жыл бұрын
YT Premium is amazing and not an expensive service; 0 ads.
@valeriejohnson5283
@valeriejohnson5283 Жыл бұрын
The defendants should have NEVER called that number and each other...lol... Donna Adleson should have just thrown that piece of paper away and they may have gotten away with the murder. I feel bad for the victim sons.😢
@CatalinaFOIA
@CatalinaFOIA Жыл бұрын
Yes and she never shouldve spoken about it ever.
@sookie.smooth
@sookie.smooth Жыл бұрын
I feel bad for the guy who got murdered.
@rodneyag54
@rodneyag54 Жыл бұрын
Smart minds think alike, 🤔 I was saying the same thing to myself. Why are they talking it was obviously a set up. They're just incriminating themselves. Guess they don't watch CSI 😕
@veragray8228
@veragray8228 9 ай бұрын
And victims parents, sister - the boys grandparents. So sad.
@anitaholst7671
@anitaholst7671 5 ай бұрын
They were AFRAID. AFRAID THEY COULD BE KILLED.
@lauraschruba4046
@lauraschruba4046 Жыл бұрын
10/10 would party with this FBI agent. 🤭
@PositiveMommaLife
@PositiveMommaLife Жыл бұрын
That recording. So Sigfredo is worried about the investigators coming to his job to ask him questions? Laughable
@mimiwins1
@mimiwins1 2 жыл бұрын
Police asks him who is your wife? He says "why?" Guilty or not I want a man to protect me like that!
4 жыл бұрын
So Glad i live in Canada... The Coppers are not allowed to pull the Entrapment on you ever or case gets thrown out as mistrial...
@cherylmahaffey6184
@cherylmahaffey6184 3 жыл бұрын
My ex had a Charter Boat business too. Connections to the Keys also Tampa and Hollywood. Likes guns a lot. Had access to a Pawn shop for years. Till it mysteriously burnt to ground. Insurance fraud perhaps? Lots of pieces to this puzzle. Mind blowing actually. Need a break from thinking about this. What a tale of Crimes.
@robinswebmail
@robinswebmail Жыл бұрын
When your attorney shows up to court with a macrame bracelet and a cheap pen, it could be an indication as to the representation you're gonna get...
@veragray8228
@veragray8228 7 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣....
@slim7435
@slim7435 Жыл бұрын
I don't know Georgia Cappleman but I sure do like her !!!!
@cherylmahaffey6184
@cherylmahaffey6184 3 жыл бұрын
Job in Financing? Wow. Who hired this dude? Terrible judgement or he can Talk crap like a salesman. LoL maybe financing drug smugglers.
@davidsmietanski6035
@davidsmietanski6035 8 ай бұрын
Thank heaven for FBI agents At least the honest ones like this one.
@normacolon9618
@normacolon9618 Жыл бұрын
Why thenheck utube has to start with a commercial, I may. It want to see that video. So now i got to deal every video just to see the first seconds, pushed to see ads.
@veragray8228
@veragray8228 9 ай бұрын
It's not fair! It's very difficult for this federal agent to keep a straight face with THIS GUY! He'll be knee slapping when he gets outside!
@cherylmahaffey6184
@cherylmahaffey6184 3 жыл бұрын
Contraband smuggled in by relatives or employees at facility. Shawshank redemption. Delivery people. Burn phones. 🤦‍♀️
@sun.shine55
@sun.shine55 7 ай бұрын
Omg Garcia’s lawyer might as well ask the agent “what’s your favorite color?” for all the good his incessant nonsensical questions do.
@lydiayork9451
@lydiayork9451 6 ай бұрын
Agree! I find it hard to believe he was best the Addlesons could afford. He sounds like a first year law student.
@NancyHernandez-mu5wo
@NancyHernandez-mu5wo 3 жыл бұрын
Is really Mather the price of the Montecarlo?
@CoachCreesh
@CoachCreesh Жыл бұрын
Everybody's going to prison EXCEPT the WELL CONNECTED rich people 🤷🏾‍♀️
@cherylmahaffey6184
@cherylmahaffey6184 3 жыл бұрын
Magnet fishing is recovering a lot of fire arms now a days. Interesting New Hobbie. Luis knew exactly where they disposed of gun. Playing cat and mouse so he could ride around in familiar territory. Wasting time. Getting treats for being a good boy. Hamburger would be a treat after prison grub.
@cherylmahaffey6184
@cherylmahaffey6184 3 жыл бұрын
Was the King even Latin? Or just a General.
@cherylmahaffey6184
@cherylmahaffey6184 3 жыл бұрын
Always want a guy like this to have All my Personal Imformation. No I do Not. Lots of dishonorable stuff going on in that business. Hope they got run out of town. Could be robberies and deaths occurring with this Scam. Foreclosed Houses. Cash for Houses. Where are the Laws? Evil doers.
@lovelynaturegirl8669
@lovelynaturegirl8669 Жыл бұрын
Ok I’m a bit lost someone help me. Katie dated the dentist. Is it Katie that asked sigfredo to help them with the murder. If so why would sigfredo help the dentist if he hated him because he was dating Katie … this makes no sense to me maybe I’m not getting the info right.
@joannaLeboy
@joannaLeboy Жыл бұрын
Money
@ritayammouni2803
@ritayammouni2803 Жыл бұрын
Money talks
@jeniferhermann909
@jeniferhermann909 7 ай бұрын
Yes they all got paid
@anitaholst7671
@anitaholst7671 5 ай бұрын
Katie says Sigfredo did NOT know who her client was.
@cherylmahaffey6184
@cherylmahaffey6184 3 жыл бұрын
Would only throw gun in River that would remain high level so as not to end up on a sand bar to be discovered by a boater. Suwannee gets low at times. Rain and floods change currents. Like the Chattahoochee.
@cherylmahaffey6184
@cherylmahaffey6184 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe Anthony was really a Tony as in Saprano as I know someone who idolized the Series. My ex husband. As told to me by his Mother.
@MimiLovesJane
@MimiLovesJane 5 ай бұрын
Charlie Adelson got the idea of extortion from the Magbanua/Garcia trial. Dan Markel may you rest in eternal peace 🕊️
@Ritzbee87
@Ritzbee87 11 ай бұрын
So the under cover agent names kaddie at the bump, then they are shocked when Charlie calls kaddie ? 😮
@vnewen2157
@vnewen2157 5 ай бұрын
They name KATIE on the note but when Donna called Charlie to tell him about it, she did not say Katie’s name. Yet he hung up from Donna’s call and called Katie back to back. At that point, he had not heard of Katie by name
@enriquecruz6699
@enriquecruz6699 8 ай бұрын
I have to say its rather hard to think at the very least Wendi was not involved. Wendi's family must have seen how much she hated the fact she couldn't have her way in the divorce that it affected her life emotionally, it was eating her alive. Woman usually get everything in their favor against the man in a divorce court. Full custody, child support, half of all of his assets etc. Its one of the main reasons Marriages are on a decline in modern society. Although in terms of assest Wendi held her own in this case. She was very successful as we'll. However, here you have Wendi, up against a very intelligent and wealthy man that wasn't just going to be easy to push over in this devorce. Like a spoiled entitled little girl, her brother and mom came to the rescue. Or, or being an intelligent attorney herself, she may have agreed to the murder and made it very clear to her brother she didnt want to have no part in any of the day to day operations leading to the murder. No phone conversations, no money drop offs or deliveries or anything that could lead her to the involvement to the murder of Mr. Dan Markel.
@iveliserojas612
@iveliserojas612 2 ай бұрын
So I guess he got attorney from charlie
@veragray8228
@veragray8228 9 ай бұрын
Garcia's lawyer got NUT - IN!! It's like pulling teeth! WASTING this superb federal agents time! I'd never hire THIS guy. 😜
@iveliserojas612
@iveliserojas612 2 ай бұрын
Have yah notice that each got three lawyer guess who paid for it charlie
@veragray8228
@veragray8228 9 ай бұрын
YAWN I'm to bored to write a period
@jeniferhermann909
@jeniferhermann909 7 ай бұрын
😂
@jeniferhermann909
@jeniferhermann909 7 ай бұрын
😂
@pauldalnoky6055
@pauldalnoky6055 3 ай бұрын
Judge Adolf Hankinson presiding
@paulajay473
@paulajay473 Жыл бұрын
This attorney is so confusing he so wants this to be a Latin king hit ,that way his client would not be guilty as Sigfredo is not a Latin king
@normacolon9618
@normacolon9618 Жыл бұрын
Who are these males talking????be fore annafter tine 10:12
@Ritzbee87
@Ritzbee87 11 ай бұрын
Call me crazy but I believe Katherine is innocent
@jeniferhermann909
@jeniferhermann909 7 ай бұрын
"Crazy"
@lydiayork9451
@lydiayork9451 6 ай бұрын
Well, she’s telling the truth now - which is that she was guilty. So, you were wrong.
@margaretwitkowski1775
@margaretwitkowski1775 2 ай бұрын
Crazy
@pennyroyalbleach
@pennyroyalbleach Ай бұрын
Craaaaazazy
@davidsmietanski6035
@davidsmietanski6035 Жыл бұрын
This judge is a crab, I like the new judge in the Katie case much better. This judge interjects too much.
@ritayammouni2803
@ritayammouni2803 Жыл бұрын
I don’t blame him for interjecting, they are incompetent Attorneys that repeat their questions over and over. He is on the ball
@jeniferhermann909
@jeniferhermann909 7 ай бұрын
Love the judge.
@jeniferhermann909
@jeniferhermann909 7 ай бұрын
​@@ritayammouni2803yep, he is definitely on the ball. Great judge.
@elizabethkavanagh3411
@elizabethkavanagh3411 Жыл бұрын
ppppppp
@hittheheadlines2942
@hittheheadlines2942 2 жыл бұрын
Classic case of Confirmation Bias. The FBI pulled the theory of Katherine being involved out of thin air. Then they interpreted the phone taps in a way that confirmed their beliefs Unfortunately Charlie (unknowingly) made both his mum and Katie look guilty with his calls, codes and secret meetings, when neither of them had anything to do with it What a nightmare for Katie - the undercover drops her name, Charlie unwittingly pulls her into his mess and the FBI mistake concern for her friends family for complicity in a murder. It's a real life tragedy Katie tells us she wasn't involved, but we miss it: ¨I don't know the rest of whatever it is, or if my name is really on anything, or if they're even talking about me ...¨ ¨... and I don't know if it's me they're really talking about¨ ¨ ... and I really feel bad if they're not even talking about me" You can throw every other piece of evidence for and against her in the trash. If she doesn't know if the undercover is talking about her she isn't involved (What do we know? We know if Katie is involved, she knows the undercover, his note, the bump, are related to the murder. She knows it's her) And when she talks to Sigfredo: "I don't feel secure because you take care of everybody else. Where's my security Tuto? When are you going to step up for me? ... ... Because I feel like everybody else gets the special attention. And then Katie you go figure it out, you go figure out the kids, you figure out life, you figure out your apartment" In Katie's eyes this is not Sigfredo's problem. Why? Because she wasn't involved. She has no idea her two boyfriends have conspired to kill someone. She is oblivious Look at it from Katie's perspective: Random strangers are extorting money from Charlie's family, possibly using her name to do it. That's terrifying for her. She tells us exactly why she wants Sigfredo's support: " ... because it's like, I'm not a guy ...* But do we listen to her? Not a chance! We fall into the trap of assuming she's talking to Sigfredo as a coconspirator She tells us why she is helping Charlie: "Look, you gotta understand, like someone doing this to my mum, someone doing this to your mum" "As a friend I'm doing it because of the mere fact that I don't think any parent should be harassed " But like complete idiots we ignore her Not only was she not involved, but she didn't even know about the murder until Sigfredo was arrested
@loriwillson9064
@loriwillson9064 Жыл бұрын
Katie made herself look guilty, she didn't need any help. She is just a selfish, horrible person, it's that simple.
@ritayammouni2803
@ritayammouni2803 Жыл бұрын
Are you serious? So how did her husband and Garcia get involved, they didn’t know Charlie
@jeniferhermann909
@jeniferhermann909 7 ай бұрын
Omg....you gotta be kidding me. Katie got it all arranged for Charlie. What are you even talking about?
@jeniferhermann909
@jeniferhermann909 7 ай бұрын
​@@ritayammouni2803thats right, she arranged it all for Charlie. All 3 of em split the $$ ( Garcia Rivera and Katie)
@vnewen2157
@vnewen2157 5 ай бұрын
lol she just testified and admitted to arranging the hit after being solicited by Charlie, she hired Garcia and Rivera. Imagine defending a murderer with these huge long essays on the internet only to be punked when the murderer and grifter you spent time defending just fess up making you look like a knucklehead
@saulsegura-nu1qe
@saulsegura-nu1qe Жыл бұрын
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