FTC bans non-competes: a business owner's thoughts

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Louis Rossmann

Louis Rossmann

14 күн бұрын

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@spudgamer6049
@spudgamer6049 8 күн бұрын
You do point out the one real concern companies legit have with non competes- stealing employees that a company has trained, as the cononay doing the stealing can afford to pay more because they dont have to pay someone to train the employee. *shrug* probably not enough of a concern to keep non competes, though. There still needs to be rules regarding IP, client and supplier lists, etc, of course, but that isnt the same thing as non competes. Also, obligatory complaint about an unelected bureaucracy being able to, in effect, create legislation.
@rossmanngroup
@rossmanngroup 8 күн бұрын
Companies don't train anymore. That's why they have master's degree preferred bachelor's degree required with six years of experience in order to make $50,000 on every job ad nowadays. Or nine years experience master's degree required to make 85,000. It's ridiculous. Find me a job on indeed or monster that actually trains you. For every one of those, there will be 1,000 that expect you to show up $80,000 in student loan debt with 10 years of experience working God knows where because nobody hires you unless you have any sort of experience anyway. That's a meme in 2024.
@InternetKilledTV21
@InternetKilledTV21 8 күн бұрын
This is a made up scenario that holds no water with a single second of thought. And if it has happened, the organization that's constantly losing employees after training is ran by complete morons---a business model of constantly turning around trainees means little product is generated. If you're constantly having your workforce poached instead of throwing a temper tantrum like a spineless child with a very antithetical non-compete clause, maybe try _competing_ to keep those employees happy so they stick around.
@mattzun6779
@mattzun6779 8 күн бұрын
If the FTC has the authority ban non-competes under existing law, I'm not sure why Obama was asking states to ban them in law back in October 2016. If his FTC thought it would survive court challenges, I'm sure he would have just had the FTC ban them before he left office. I think that a ban on overly broad non-competes and non-competes for fast food workers and other low level employees could be upheld as regulating unfair competition The FTC does have this authority and there is ample evidence that they are being used to restrict normal competition A complete ban on non-competes, including narrowly tailored non-competes for executives seems like it will get overturned in the courts. I would love to see both state and federal laws banning them
@nucphyschem1
@nucphyschem1 8 күн бұрын
companies training thats a laugh
@Yorick257
@Yorick257 8 күн бұрын
I get it, but, call me stupid, but if my employer had trained me, I would have enough respect for them to stay (at least for a while). Of course, the best employer would also continuously bump up the salary as the experience grows, as it should be. And then it wouldn't be a discussion.
@dschult3
@dschult3 12 күн бұрын
My wife was threatened with a lawsuit when she got another job, and her noncompete clause said she couldn't work 7 miles from the first job. The map said it was 7.1 miles from her former employer. Their lawyer claimed it was 6.8. We lawyered up, and they did nothing with it. Non-compete clauses are nothing but ammo for vindictive former employers.
@earthtaurus5515
@earthtaurus5515 12 күн бұрын
That's just messed up.
@exxe2454
@exxe2454 12 күн бұрын
It's never been legal, simple logic, the contract is null & void once your fired or quit, you can't be bound by a contract your no longer in, common sense. A non compete only applies while your hired. It's a work contract, if your not working for them there's no contract.
@Content_Deleted
@Content_Deleted 11 күн бұрын
@@exxe2454Pretty sure stuff like NDAs still apply, don't they?
@JamesTK
@JamesTK 11 күн бұрын
@@Content_DeletedNDAs can be enforceable, non-competes are usually a joke but they like to bundle them together and make it hard to wriggle out of
@exxe2454
@exxe2454 11 күн бұрын
@@Content_Deleted No actually, & don't let a lawyer tell you otherwise, a contract is only valid if it has a proper termination clause that let's either party leave whenever they no longer see the contract as mutually beneficial thus releasing the other party from any benefit/debt they may owe you while also repaying off any debt you'd otherwise still have to them & vice versa if they want to terminate without cause, they pay you what's owed & you don't owe then anything afterwards. Hence an NDA only applies so long as both parties are gaining something of mutual beneficial in perpetually year after year say for example "knowledge", access to the database holding that knowledge would be valid, but once it's in your head that's a 1 time transaction, so if your not paid year after year to keep that info to yourself or if they refuse to increase that pay as you request then you can void it by default.
@darkrulerbob
@darkrulerbob 12 күн бұрын
Arbitration should be banned too
@darrennew8211
@darrennew8211 12 күн бұрын
Arbitration that excludes class action for sure. *Binding* arbitration should be banned.
@Zagirus
@Zagirus 12 күн бұрын
And DEI hiring
@darrennew8211
@darrennew8211 12 күн бұрын
@@Zagirus You're in luck. DEI hiring just got illegalled by the SCOTUS last week.
@kevinerbs2778
@kevinerbs2778 12 күн бұрын
@@Zagirus D.E.I could work if they included ex-cons but it's really just a woke tool.
@bbrainstormer2036
@bbrainstormer2036 11 күн бұрын
Well, forced arbitration
@unknownerorr2740
@unknownerorr2740 12 күн бұрын
What do you mean I can't hold a monopoly anymore??
@kasimirfreeman
@kasimirfreeman 11 күн бұрын
You can if you hold State-Enforced Patents and "IP" and have the Federal Reserve steal from the drones to give you access to easy "capital".
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 11 күн бұрын
Oh, you CAN hold a monopoly, but you have to do it the old-fashioned way, by buying all of your competition, and sending dudes with pickaxe handles to "persuade" those who won't sell to get out of the business.
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 11 күн бұрын
@@MonkeyJedi99 the old way is still technically illegal, but this is not been enforced in decades
@pointvector1951
@pointvector1951 10 күн бұрын
@@marcogenovesi8570 centuries
@user-lk2vo8fo2q
@user-lk2vo8fo2q 6 күн бұрын
@@marcogenovesi8570 that's actually been changing. haven't you noticed all the big mergers being blocked by the us government recently? biden's ftc is by far the best thing about his administration.
@baileykeller288
@baileykeller288 12 күн бұрын
If a company says i can't get a job with another employer, then they shouldn't be able to hire someone else if they fire me.
@quantisedspace7047
@quantisedspace7047 10 күн бұрын
In Europe, they can't. They can't fire you unless you've done something wrong. If they have to let you go for economic reasons, they have to pay. If they then immediately hire someone else for the same job, it means that the original dismissal was unlawful as the job has to become defunct when you do. What is it about the USA that any of these things are actually real ? I don't get it.
@CyphDragon
@CyphDragon 9 күн бұрын
@@quantisedspace7047 it's the same thing behind why every tax cut for the ultra-wealthy and mega-corporations is celebrated - far too many people believe that "if I just work a little harder..." they'll be the oppressors instead of the oppressed. There's a lot of money involved in keeping people under this delusion.
@smugler1
@smugler1 9 күн бұрын
​@@quantisedspace7047 it's not a developed country
@thesenamesaretaken
@thesenamesaretaken 8 күн бұрын
​@@smugler1The UK is currently transitioning to undeveloped status. We still have some rights but as of a few years ago employers may fire their employees during their first 2 years of employment without notice or recourse.
@andycopeland7051
@andycopeland7051 7 күн бұрын
Not the same thing
@joeMW284
@joeMW284 12 күн бұрын
I was scrolling through a Fox News comment section on an article about this. The sympathy some people have for faceless corporations never ceases to amaze me.
@Malikav0311
@Malikav0311 12 күн бұрын
Neo-con boomers.
@joej78
@joej78 12 күн бұрын
Boomers are crazy. They complain about wokeness being shoved down their throats and then fellate corporations. It's wild.
@dongordon2754
@dongordon2754 12 күн бұрын
They're kool-aid-drinking bible thumpers, it's what they do
@9ramthebuffs9
@9ramthebuffs9 12 күн бұрын
why are you giving fox, or any corporate press clicks. Use archived links.
@weirdnewworld1736
@weirdnewworld1736 12 күн бұрын
They're not people, they're bots.
@HelmutDoork
@HelmutDoork 12 күн бұрын
The non compete my friend was forced to sign prevented him from opening up his own business in the field until at least a year had passed after he left the company he worked for. Not even being able to work for another company in the same business is even worse. The same company had forced arbitration as well. Banning non-competes is very good news indeed. They should ban forced arbitration next.
@Operational117
@Operational117 12 күн бұрын
Hard agree on that last statement. Forced arbitration is like the next stage of this corporate cancer.
@schwingedeshaehers
@schwingedeshaehers 12 күн бұрын
i think non competes should be okay, if they are required to pay full or 90 % of the normal salary of that employee, for the time of the non compete
@davidlazarus67
@davidlazarus67 12 күн бұрын
Companies who have Non competes should be made to buy their way out of these situations. Give them a deadline and a penalty. This would punish those with them. It might also stop bad business practices that might be considered like forced arbitration to be targeted next.
@JustfknBill
@JustfknBill 12 күн бұрын
Can you please explain forced arbitration to someone who knows nothing about it?
@iFYMxDRKNSFALLS
@iFYMxDRKNSFALLS 12 күн бұрын
@@JustfknBillit’s a internal lawsuit/internal court case with a typical retired judge. so it’s like a normal lawsuit but solely for the company; and the arbitration is 97%+ for the company’s favor.
@JDubzDrumz
@JDubzDrumz 12 күн бұрын
I worked at a pizza place (super toxic and abusive managers) one of the chefs saved his money for two years and opened a pizza place that was not even remotely similar one town over. The place i work sued him and used the non compete we had to sign to win. Well the judge ruled in the places i worked favor, and in their non compete it stated; we'd have to cover legal fees, emotional damages etc etc etc... Poor dude lost his life savings just because he opened a pizza place. 🤦 The managers kept bragging about how they ruined the dudes life. 🤦 was so glad when i quit.
@janelleg597
@janelleg597 12 күн бұрын
That is ridiculous
@XDWX
@XDWX 12 күн бұрын
This type of stuff requires a direct action karma correction.
@deadbeef576
@deadbeef576 12 күн бұрын
If that happend to me, someone will die
@Revan_7even
@Revan_7even 12 күн бұрын
No wonder it's so hard to find good pizza places
@Callsign_Sturm
@Callsign_Sturm 11 күн бұрын
@@XDWX no, but by all means, just go and politely tell the manager he's a diarrhea. Nobody would eat at a place that tries to destroys people's lives if they knew.
@wesleywalker4162
@wesleywalker4162 12 күн бұрын
I signed a non-compete when I sold a business. It seemed perfectly reasonable to ask the person selling you a business not to compete with you immediately after the sale, however it seems unreasonable and unethical for a company to ask their employees to sign one.
@noah1535
@noah1535 12 күн бұрын
Pretty certain this ruling excludes executive positions (which being the owner of a business is) for your reason and company-exclusive knowledge, the ban is for employees
@klaykid117
@klaykid117 7 күн бұрын
This ruling specifically excludes people selling a business
@fulconandroadcone9488
@fulconandroadcone9488 2 күн бұрын
Here in EU, as I understand it, non compete means I can't start the company and take away clients, I can go and do the same job for a different company and I can start my own company for as long as I don't contact clients from my previous company to get my services instead. It is beyond unreasonable and unethical to not let workers switch to another company.
@ptrinch
@ptrinch 12 күн бұрын
I had a company put a 1 year non compete clause on my offer. I asked them to either remove it, or add a parallel clause stating that in the event that I am laid off or fired, they would agree to not hire anyone to do similar work to mine for 1 years. I didn't want someone else to benefit from any systems, processes, or code that I provided to the company prior to my dismissal. And guess what.... they did neither and I turned down the offer. Was a #*$% company anyway.
@schwingedeshaehers
@schwingedeshaehers 12 күн бұрын
1 year non compete? ouch i think it would be okay for 3 (maybe 6) months, if the employer has to still pay you, while the non compete time
@leonro
@leonro 12 күн бұрын
I would ask to be paid the full salary for that non-compete period. It's alright if they don't want me to work anymore, but they ought to be responsible for me while I am still bound by them. Luckily, I do live in the EU where workers' rights are a fair bit different.
@outseeker
@outseeker 12 күн бұрын
if they want you to be unable to work for 1 year if you leave their company, no problem. they just can pay you for that year :) seems fair
@houserhythm
@houserhythm 8 күн бұрын
The problem is, even if they agreed to your terms, it's much easier for a company (and gets easier, the larger the company is) to hire someone with a slightly (or even completely) different job title and still have them do the same work as you.
@fulconandroadcone9488
@fulconandroadcone9488 2 күн бұрын
@@houserhythm that is why you demand full pay for that period, then they have to pay two people to do that job.
@jzilla1234
@jzilla1234 12 күн бұрын
There is no reason a fast food worker should have a non compete. Americans need to thank Lina khan. She's the only democrat working for you.
@Operational117
@Operational117 12 күн бұрын
I am willing to go out on a limb by saying this: *Non-compete stifles innovation!*
@xdjrunner
@xdjrunner 12 күн бұрын
FCC also restored Net Neutrality today Interesting times...
@yasielromero8236
@yasielromero8236 12 күн бұрын
​@@xdjrunner didn't know this, another great news 🎉
@hahasamian8010
@hahasamian8010 12 күн бұрын
​@@Operational117 I mean yeah, if competition is supposed to bring innovation, anything literally made to prevent competition is also stifling innovation. This is also why I have a problem with copyright/patent systems, they can prevent innovative products from being made because some other random company owns one of the pieces needed to solve the puzzle. But that's a whole other discussion. (Obviously I think the inventor of something deserves to be compensated, but maybe there should be some requirement that it's always licensable for some reasonable price.)
@rightwingsafetysquad9872
@rightwingsafetysquad9872 12 күн бұрын
Non-competes have never been applicable to unskilled or low-skilled workers. They are only enforceable in very limited circumstances and have never been able to stop anyone from going to work for a different company.
@Yulrag
@Yulrag 12 күн бұрын
Treating employees right. That phrase to many employers is like garlic to a vampire. Non-compete have some place, but for people working in non executive positions it should not be permitted.
@maxscott3349
@maxscott3349 11 күн бұрын
I think using it to protect trade secrets is also acceptable
@Yulrag
@Yulrag 11 күн бұрын
@@maxscott3349 Non-compete is about competing, not about keeping secrecy. That should be part of employment contract. At least I would have formulated it that way.
@maxscott3349
@maxscott3349 11 күн бұрын
@@Yulrag Yeah and ideally that would be enough, but I think there are a lot of situations where a non compete really does make sense. For example, I heard about this company that makes a part for way less than anyone else can, and noone can figure out why because they pay six figures and make people sign some kind of contract before they even see the process. It's probably just a workholding thing, and I can see someone letting the cat out of the bag completely unintentionally just by doing something similar on a different part.
@Yulrag
@Yulrag 11 күн бұрын
@@maxscott3349 There is something called non disclosure agreement, it serves to protect such information.
@theSato
@theSato 11 күн бұрын
It should only be permitted if the worker is privy to some top secret information (and that should just be covered by an NDA and/or patent, anyway).
@RandomGuy2_Electric-Boogalo
@RandomGuy2_Electric-Boogalo 12 күн бұрын
What I've always said is that if you want your workers not to go work for a competing company, pay them better and treat them better. They won't leave if you stop making them want to leave.
@nomemories130
@nomemories130 11 күн бұрын
Yeah we need a loser pays legal system too
@CrispyCircuits
@CrispyCircuits 11 күн бұрын
Well, no. I had a small construction company. Many experienced employees just get bored. They leave, go to another contractor they worked for before. They stay there a while, get bored, rotate to another contractor, bored and back to me again. It may seem strange, but it is quite common. No problem for me or the employee. It also kept me with a set of these employees who had high morale. Happy people make unhappy people happy again.
@dunxtonchexton1631
@dunxtonchexton1631 6 күн бұрын
This is a nice idea in concept but in practice difficult to achieve. I'm paying my engineers 40% above market salary, straight time overtime, full health insurance for their family (unheard of in industry, its a 20% of salary value benefit) and I double side pay for their 401k match under SafeHarbors (I pay their contribution in addition to the employer match). It takes me 24 months to train them, and I'm having a 30 month average turnover; and we aim for them to work 48 hours per week or less. I'm getting maybe 32 hours per week out of them at most, usually between 22-28. They leave, take our inhouse IP, book of business contacts, and try to hang their own shingle and try to undercut me.
@CrispyCircuits
@CrispyCircuits 5 күн бұрын
@@dunxtonchexton1631 Without any disrespect, it sounds to me like you might be thinking like either an employee or a charity. Watch Bar Rescue re-runs to see how well either works. My suggestions: drop all of these extra benefits and salary. Demand that they work 40 hours. Any complaints, fire someone in a meeting with the whole group. Separately from my above suggestion, go fire someone tomorrow! I don't know your exact situation or local laws, but you need a spy or surveillance of some sort. Might be a good time for a really good cleaning or some BS repair work that takes a week. If you are losing so much $$, you can afford to pay 2 people to fake it. One of my very very most bestest employees simply could not run the crew for an hour while I left to go take care of other things. I definitely kept him, but not in a supervisor position. So with some inside information, you might be able to "fairly" judge each person instead of guessing. Finally, if you want to extend really good pay and benefits, demand something in return. Start with a time period. Say maybe after three productive years, they get one of the good benefits. Then one year later, they get another. The global economy is about to crash so badly that the Great Depression in the US will look like "fun". So get things worked out right now, without delay or you might suffer the pain of a failed business. Sucks, but it's a fact, not a guess. I suggest you sit down and write up the rules you would expect yourself to carry out if you were working for yourself or else would fire. Be nice, don't ever yell or lose your temper. Having to fire someone hurts emotionally. That will go away after a few times. I lost my business when I started to have near lethal seizures suddenly. It really does hurt to lose it all. Good luck.
@RyanK-100
@RyanK-100 12 күн бұрын
FUCKING GENIUS. "I am in favor of taking away the freedom of someone to take away your freedom." I was wrestling with how to fit this new law into my pro-business and somewhat Libertarian framework. This is the answer.
@apple-cv2xj
@apple-cv2xj 12 күн бұрын
Exactly the same philosophy as being intolerant of intolerance. And not that I'm a loon, but also the same idea that for peace to be protected, violence must be met with violence. You have to protect what you have, or it will be taken by those who don't care
@joepiekl
@joepiekl 12 күн бұрын
Why does it have to fit into your pro-business, libertarian framework? Why can you not just accepts that no single political philosophy has all the answers and it'd be crazy to think it does?
@cryora
@cryora 12 күн бұрын
I mean that's how banning slavery works.
@dyr_glpsn4209
@dyr_glpsn4209 12 күн бұрын
​@@joepieklthis. It is SO sad to see adults agreeing to everything a political party/ideology/doctrine says. Use your brain, think for yourself what is right and what is not on each topic individually.
@CesarFerraro2
@CesarFerraro2 11 күн бұрын
@@cryora It is also the logic behind most state power. It is the justification for the existence of police, courts, business regulations, and even the Welfare State. All are layers to liberate the individual from petty tyrants, who are potentially numerous and mortally endanger any meaningful freedom.
@racenturtlez
@racenturtlez 12 күн бұрын
This man is my president
@Bassotronics
@Bassotronics 12 күн бұрын
If he becomes President, I’ll be the Vice President and bring all those corrupt corporations down!.. meaning 75% of all corporations. Lol
@Timely-ud4rm
@Timely-ud4rm 12 күн бұрын
He should be president!
@scottyboyfun
@scottyboyfun 12 күн бұрын
No way! We want him instead!
@andrive
@andrive 11 күн бұрын
​@@Timely-ud4rm He would then go fully bald
@Bassotronics
@Bassotronics 11 күн бұрын
I want to be Vice President to send corrupted companies to the ground. And 75% of them are corrupt!
@SubFlow22
@SubFlow22 12 күн бұрын
Non-competes are rarely enforceable but company's will frequently tie former employees up in legal fees instead, which is typically just as effective. I'm happy to see this practice end.
@viru52000
@viru52000 12 күн бұрын
A company could lay you off or fire you and still have a non-compete stop you from getting a new job in your field which is straight evil, period. Non-competes only benefit corporations that the past few years have proven to be abusive.
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 11 күн бұрын
Ooh, an evil plan just formed in my head. Malicious Incorporated hires everyone with the skills for the jobs they have, gets them to sign non-competes, then lays them off to hire the next ones. Soon, they have hostage all of the potential employees for any of the jobs they operate, and then they hire some of them back at lower pay rates, perhaps even as low as minimum wage. Keep them working for a few months, let them go (with the non-compete) and hire the next wave. Timed right, you will OWN the regional labor pool without even having to pay all of them at once.
@richardpayne
@richardpayne 11 күн бұрын
@@MonkeyJedi99 And then those employees sue their former employer for wrongful dismissal since the either they weren't bad at their job, and they weren't redundant. ;)
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 11 күн бұрын
@@richardpayne I didn't say it was a smart plan, just an evil one. Maybe in the movie about it, the employees could be led by a dancing lawyer. Kevin Bacon, perhaps?
@josephbrandenburg4373
@josephbrandenburg4373 11 күн бұрын
Try: "past few centuries"
@nwatson2773
@nwatson2773 11 күн бұрын
True! We need a working class revolution and a new set of elected people in Congress!
@seephor
@seephor 12 күн бұрын
When I first learned about non-compete agreements, I honestly thought this was a joke and couldn't be true. That was just intuition. I'm glad it was struck down.
@citizenguy
@citizenguy 11 күн бұрын
That's very nice of you to look out for your employees. It's like a butterfly effect. Higher wages allows your workers to afford a house or take care of their kids better.
@rossmanngroup
@rossmanngroup 11 күн бұрын
This is the fundamental misunderstanding. It's not nice. I'm not being nice!! I'm bribing them to leave their current job and look after my business.
@BloodnutXcom
@BloodnutXcom 11 күн бұрын
Still a win-win
@RiskyOutcomes
@RiskyOutcomes 11 күн бұрын
@@rossmanngroup money moves
@mRahman92
@mRahman92 11 күн бұрын
One person's "nice" and another person's "mean". So yeah Louis, it was very malicious of you to look out for other people's -property- people. Now they won't have the same horse to work to death for the glue factory, now they have to stop relying on their top talent that they've become dependent on. Like a Catch 22.
@emilypeters8888
@emilypeters8888 10 күн бұрын
Well I was writing a reply but this new KZfaq ad system stopped me from pausing like one word before I completed so here I am rewriting wasting time because the wanted to advert me an otc allergy med when I already take one covered by my insurance. This behavior actually links to what I was originally trying to comment on which is the whole anchro capitalist movement to supposedly start your own if you don’t like it example in this case was an isp but company’s like comcast who like to flaunt there excellent ratings and only have those ratings because they are a monopoly in all but the slimmest legal since setting up laws as much as possible to prevent people from setting up there own isps or isps as a utility. In the same way these media companies with ads go how far can we monetize everything and remove every scrap individualism that might eat our bottom line while refusing to carry adverts anywhere for our competitors that anyone can see effectively eliminating competition since the control the only known viewing channels it is kinda of hard to learn something exist if you only can see ad for at 4am on a 2” screen through a basement window downtown on the third Friday every three months which is the only spot they will sell you because it is all the legally haft to do setting up independent isps or ISPs as a utility is like that currently.
@richardjr1972
@richardjr1972 12 күн бұрын
It really hurts contract employees also, if the company you are contracted to decides they like you as an employee then if you have a non compete you are stuck.
@ptrinch
@ptrinch 12 күн бұрын
My company uses a lot of contract labor. On several occasions, we were able to convert those contractors to employees through negotiations with the contracting company. Basically, make them an offer to release them so we can hire them. Kind of a win-win situation. Also, we just bring on a new contractor from the company anyway, so they don't even loose any recurring revenue.
@dangero2000
@dangero2000 12 күн бұрын
Well fortunately, non-competes are illegal now as I understand it, so it's not binding now.
@Sunrise-d819i2
@Sunrise-d819i2 11 күн бұрын
@@dangero2000 yes, in 112 days. it takes time to be in effect.
@lrock48
@lrock48 5 күн бұрын
​@@Sunrise-d819i2pretty sure the chamber of commerce and other business organizations would fight tooth and nail against it.
@diplenski
@diplenski 12 күн бұрын
i worked as a tech for an hvac company that tried to have us sign non-competes. i don't remember the specifics but it was laughably restrictive, nobody quit but none of us signed it
@diplenski
@diplenski 12 күн бұрын
they also never honored their commitment to finish out my journeyman apprenticeship, they never filed the paperwork with the dept of labor to track my hours.
@AngryAmericanWizard
@AngryAmericanWizard 12 күн бұрын
@@diplenski I'd be furious for that last part. I love HVAC as someone who doesn't do it, super neat stuff. In my state they were already basically unenforceable unless they paid you for the duration following the separation.
@diplenski
@diplenski 12 күн бұрын
@@AngryAmericanWizard i was, and still am. they just kept jerking me around whenever i'd ask. they ended up letting me go right before covid after 4 years. so i was eligible for unemployment and all the extensions which was pretty sweet. i actually went back last year for a few months and they were jerking another guy around about his apprenticeship, so i quit again. i still don't have my journeyman's license, i might just test for my master license.
@outseeker
@outseeker 12 күн бұрын
lol company was like drat! oh well, we tried XD
@FourthRoot
@FourthRoot 12 күн бұрын
I'm a libertarian and I'm fine with this rule. Employees don't know what their working conditions will be like until after they actually start working there, as such, they can't be said to be fully informed and therefore never truly consented to that sort of employment agreement.
@kasimirfreeman
@kasimirfreeman 12 күн бұрын
The classic Non-Compete is Statist and not enforceable under AnCAP. There has to be a title transfer for something to be a contract.
@user-lh5re8jh7u
@user-lh5re8jh7u 12 күн бұрын
It more simple: I own my labor.
@publicguy1664
@publicguy1664 12 күн бұрын
So you're poorly informed then. Libertarianism in the US is right wing nonsense.
@CesarFerraro2
@CesarFerraro2 11 күн бұрын
@@kasimirfreeman In an anarcho-capitalist dystopia, this problem would be much worse, like all other problems. In an anarcho-capitalist dystopia, companies would obviously use noncompete just because it is in their interest to do so. If you are a business, you don't want competition for your workers. Okay, who would enforce such a contract? Private courts that are paid for by companies would enforce all contracts. In the anarcho-capitalist world, there are no public courts, just private ones, and good luck being a low-income worker in that world. A low-income worker in this dystopia would be in a constant desperate state to find any work, because there is no public welfare, so he would sign any contract, and then the company would enforce that contract with the help of courts that they pay for.
@Callsign_Sturm
@Callsign_Sturm 11 күн бұрын
​@@user-lh5re8jh7uYour own labor? No. You own what you physically possess around you. You don't even own the code you create, just the local copy of it on the hard drive you physically possess.
@ProtossHyrdalisk
@ProtossHyrdalisk 12 күн бұрын
Non-competes going away is a breath of fresh air for anyone working at high end tech companies.
@pointvector1951
@pointvector1951 10 күн бұрын
Never heard of a non comete until this vid. I'd say sign away and let their lawyers figure it out. I'd go to court all day for free.
@tedzards509
@tedzards509 10 күн бұрын
Are there guardrails to prevent companies from poaching smaller companies like what Apple did to that blood oxygen company though?
@josephlh1690
@josephlh1690 9 күн бұрын
​​@@tedzards509there are no major guard rails. There are some exceptions but in my opinion they are too narrow to prevent serious issues And that could be a major problem. This non compete ban will crush the health care industry if enforced, this non compete ban will create a ruthless competition between small businesses. The people celebrating this don't really know how the pursuit of better pay could upend smaller local communities. Look at what happened when travel nurses became popular? It left many nurses with lower pay and under staffed compared to these traveling nurses.
@user-lk2vo8fo2q
@user-lk2vo8fo2q 6 күн бұрын
@@tedzards509 Frankly, I'm not sure why you'd want to prevent that. Why shouldn't those employees be allowed to work at Apple if they can get a better deal there? That's just how the free market is supposed to work.
@tedzards509
@tedzards509 6 күн бұрын
@@user-lk2vo8fo2q Monopolies are generally not good for a capitalist market, so allowing larger companies to eat up smaller competition is bad for both the consumers and the market itself.
@TheZoenGaming
@TheZoenGaming 12 күн бұрын
True story: A friend was stuck in a job with a horrible office situation dealing with both a boss and co-worker in a single room. They weren't bad people, their personalities were just not something he could deal with constantly. After trying to get HR to fix things and get a separate space for months, he had the good fortune of having a meal with someone from upper management. That person asked why he didn't simply quit, and he explained that he had signed a non-compete agreement. The company's local branch had downsized to the point where he would have to go into a completely different career because of the specific tasks and responsibilities of his position having become so broad and encompassing. The UM was shocked by this and promised to hire on more people to fix that issue. My friend told me that they eventually were backbup to the original number of employees at that branch within two months. It seems that not every member of management thinks a non-compete is a good thing!
@bonnolog
@bonnolog 12 күн бұрын
Signed a non-compete employee as a janitor, pro-gamer move.
@AleksandarBosakov
@AleksandarBosakov 10 күн бұрын
"I pay my janitors more than you pay your techs"
@quantisedspace7047
@quantisedspace7047 10 күн бұрын
Great, and now everyone from the IRS to the health insurance is wondering how he can afford what he can, on a janitor's salary.
@meeponinthbit3466
@meeponinthbit3466 12 күн бұрын
I'll celebrate for the people when I see it actually get enforced.
@4514LU
@4514LU 12 күн бұрын
Im an employer and i also hate non competes as well as all other anti choice anti freedom things coming out, no one owns me or my body and i don't want to have anyone in servitude, if people are unhappy let them leave. What i do want is to be able to provide a insurance that actually covers people and helps them the way medicare/medicaid would if they quit working.
@rubenskiii
@rubenskiii 8 күн бұрын
We have something like that in the Netherlands, it’s like a fund that helps you bridge the time when between jobs. You go to UWV. There are also funds for injuries and stuff.
@4514LU
@4514LU 8 күн бұрын
@@rubenskiii Here if you work and have a issue you go bankrupt if its bad even if you have insurance. We only give free healthcare to prisoners and people who do not work or if they already declared medical bankruptcy and lost everything
@andljoy
@andljoy 12 күн бұрын
Wait so if i leave a business i cannot get a job with another company for the same thing ...........that is so stupid!
@yasielromero8236
@yasielromero8236 12 күн бұрын
Depending on if you signed a non compete and what it specified that could easily be a thing yes. That is why most people agree non compete aretoal BS and exploitative and anti workers Only people you'll see crying about wanting noj competes to be a thing are corporations and CEOs
@ptrinch
@ptrinch 12 күн бұрын
In some industries, there is some logic to it. For example, an associate at a law firm or investment firm may quit to start their own firm and bring over a significant chunk of the clients from their old firm. That being said, those non compete clauses did not say you couldn't be a lawyer for a year. They say that you can't work for any of their clients in your new firm. The problem is that other companies abused the concept to the point that someone making sandwiches at Jimmy Johns could not go over to Subway and make sandwiches there. Probably trying to protect the information regarding whether the cheese or the ham should be placed first.
@848
@848 12 күн бұрын
@@ptrinch That is a pretty bad example though, a better example would be a high ranking employee with knowledge of company secrets, leaving the company and joining a competitor to leak those secrets. However, even in such a case, the theoretical value of that employee not leaking information is much greater than any wages the company could pay during the non compete duration, in which case they should at least be required to keep the employee on payroll even after quitting (or being fired).
@saulgoodman2018
@saulgoodman2018 12 күн бұрын
@@ptrinch Stealing clients is not the same as a non compete.
@saulgoodman2018
@saulgoodman2018 12 күн бұрын
@@848 Company secrets is a NDA issue, not a non compete.
@size_t
@size_t 12 күн бұрын
I don't know how this works in the US, in Germany we have something similar. But: 1.) If you leave the company, you get 50-100% compensated from the company for the duration of the non-compete clause. 2.) It is typical for very high paid jobs and you're able to negotiate the clause. Which is fine, some people doing a 6 month vacation after they left the company, because they get paid
@RBrown-uk4xt
@RBrown-uk4xt 12 күн бұрын
This is more inline with how non-competes were supposed to be used. To protect trades secrets, or an investment made in a specific employee for which the employee received compensation beyond base pay. For example, a radio station spending a significant amount to market a headline personality would have that employee agree to not work for another radio station *in that area for a finite amount of time.* Not for minimum wage workers.
@Erowens98
@Erowens98 10 күн бұрын
Sadly, in the US this isn't how they're used. In the US you may even have to sign a non-compete to become a cook at a restaurant. And there is no obligation for the employer to pay you for the NC period after firing you. NDAs also already achieve the goal of protecting trade secrets without restricting the free market of labor.
@hb-man
@hb-man 9 күн бұрын
Germany has it like this: If the company wants to have the non compete enforced, they have to contractually agree to paying at least 50% of the salary for the duration of the non compete. If no payment was in the contract, the clause is void. If less payment was offered, it is optional for the former employee, i.e. they can choose to take the money and comply, or not.
@nakmail
@nakmail 4 күн бұрын
The U.K. is similar, you do not have non-competes, you have something called gardening leave. Essentially you go on a paid holiday for the period of time they do not want you competing. I’ve never seen this been more than a year, normally the length is the notice period you have in your contract with the employer. Most of the time this is like a week or two weeks for low skill jobs. Very skilled jobs tend to have 3 months to allow for finding a replacement or handovers. All of this is negotiable typically when you actually end up leaving.
@stickmandaninacan
@stickmandaninacan 12 күн бұрын
Shackles on the wife is a great analogy to simply explain the non compete concept. Its such a shame that there is so much of this attitude that exists in the world in all places, relationships or businesses. The type of thinking of people to be like "others should fulfill my expectations for my own benefit, it must be enforced and it doesnt matter about how it affects the others." Delusion and Narcissism runs rampant in our society and we all suffer for it.
@TheBlackMage3
@TheBlackMage3 12 күн бұрын
So glad the FTC went this direction! There are already laws which prevent stealing intellectual property or customers! In my area of work, I can't find an employer without a non-compete. I have no other option. Hope we get actual legislation banning non-competes permanently! Another terrible NYS story is the governor vetoing the bill which was going to prevent non-competes in the state!
@Mellowyellow8888
@Mellowyellow8888 9 күн бұрын
Yeah what actually should be talked about is non compete vs non-disclosure.. NDA's make sense.. i help company develop something.. i can't just leave and make the same thing as a new business.. or go to a competitor and make the same thing there..
@aj.j5833
@aj.j5833 12 күн бұрын
This is another case of corporations abusing something until became a problem.
@Thiccolo
@Thiccolo 12 күн бұрын
Before I even watch the video I just want to say, I was forced to sign a non-compete agreement at my minimum wage job. There are no trade secrets I'm aware of. Why on earth is my ability to move to a different job crippled? This can only be a good thing.
@deadbeef576
@deadbeef576 12 күн бұрын
Even if you knew any trade secrets, that would make you more valuable to the company, and therefore you should get a higher wage and better working conditions just so you dont leave for the competitor.
@nicwelch
@nicwelch 11 күн бұрын
You were not forced to sign it. People need to quit saying this.
@SioxerNikita
@SioxerNikita 11 күн бұрын
​@@nicwelchIf you desperately need the money, then yes, you can be forced... If not taking the job means you can't pay for mortgage/rent/food/etc... are you really going to argue with aren't forced?
@josephbrandenburg4373
@josephbrandenburg4373 11 күн бұрын
Imma say it: they should do away with trade secrets, too, if they care about making the economy competitive. Trade secrets do nothing but stifle innovation because a few greedy bastards want their advantage. When toddlers do this, we teach them to share, to stop saying "No!" and "mine!" and to quit snatching stuff out of each other's hands. Why do we accept this behaviour in adults?
@dlengelkes
@dlengelkes 11 күн бұрын
@@nicwelch Some companies will not hire someone if they don't sign a non-compete contract. If one refuses to sign a non-compete clause then the company could retract the offer.
@Hoenir
@Hoenir 12 күн бұрын
Same shit in Germany. I work with selling meat (Butcher shop) in Retail supermarkets, found a "private" market that would pay me more than my last. They wanted a temporary contract, meaning after 12 months who knows (they need to inform me 3 months before if they gonna extend the contract). I read the contract and there was a Non Compete Clause there. Direct, Indirect and Similar. The period ? 2 Fucking years of no compete. Meaning I would not be allowed to work my Profession for 2 Fucking years.... I just walked away. A RETAIL JOB, Not IT, Not Banking. Retail
@almostprofessionalrecords6651
@almostprofessionalrecords6651 10 күн бұрын
They would pay you for 2 years of vacation.
@ohthatremindsmeofmypruneju3669
@ohthatremindsmeofmypruneju3669 12 күн бұрын
I started loyally watching this channel because I love seeing people go on rants, but after so long of me slowly realizing the world is crap, this piece of good news kinda made my day lol
@jakesandstorm8329
@jakesandstorm8329 7 күн бұрын
The problem with non-competes is the information disparity. Employees don't realize they give up all of their leverage, but employers do realize that the employee are giving up all of their leverage. So they get exploited. Ideally, non-competes could work if the pros and cons were thoroughly explained to employees before signing. Instead, a non-compete clause is buried in a heap of other mandatory onboarding paperwork.
@bradl2636
@bradl2636 12 күн бұрын
Independent consultant. 1000% agree with you on this.
@BeansMcGriddle
@BeansMcGriddle 12 күн бұрын
I worked at a fortune 500 that simply didnt care about losing employees. The turn around rate was insane. Literally hundreds a year. And then things got worse and that business not doing so well these days. Oh yeah. They would fire long time good employees regularly so they can hire a cheaper offshore person. Often times several to replace the duties of a single good employee.
@Jirodyne
@Jirodyne 12 күн бұрын
"Non Compete" It's right in the name "Not Competing" It creates monopoly, and not have a healthy competing industry where companies NEED to be better, better environment, better pay, better benefits, better products, to compete against each other.
@iahimoh4838
@iahimoh4838 9 күн бұрын
So, in the land of the free, people are also free to give their rights away, but then employers demand you to do it in exchange for employment and people are desperate enough to bite. Tough.
@SuppressedOfficial
@SuppressedOfficial 7 күн бұрын
Louis is absolutely right that no one trains. Regarding IP, here's the thing: if I write a piece of software (that's my job) for my employer, odds are, that's NOT their IP, whether they like it or not. Everyone has a notification system. Everyone has logging. Everyone has a TON of this same-old-same-old crap that no one wants to pay for as a service but everyone needs, and so everyone re-implements it in-house. Is that dumb? Yeah, kinda. But the important point is that I already wrote that like five times for other people, so you can pretend that's "yours" if you want, but it's really MINE, and I made you a copy of it just like I did those other people. Cry all you want, but you have no case: I made it for you as a work for hire, but I did the same for everyone else, too.
@vincents1520
@vincents1520 12 күн бұрын
A non-compete should have the requirement that if the employee leaves the position, for the duration of the non-compete (since it will keep them from being able to make a living in their field) should be required to be paid the same amount they would have gotten if they had stayed. It would force the employer to actually think about letting them go and try to get them to stay since they would have to continue paying at full level for getting no work.
@raughboy188
@raughboy188 12 күн бұрын
Finaly something good. This should keep employers on toes and may force them to increase wages so employee just doesn't leave.
@Wren1
@Wren1 12 күн бұрын
Good. Non-compete clauses are ridiculous restrictions that could even be considered unconstitutional.
@CertifiedClapaholic
@CertifiedClapaholic 4 күн бұрын
I support the idea, the problem is that this rule is unconstitutional. Congress makes the laws, not unelected bureaucrats.
@Tulah
@Tulah 12 күн бұрын
As European I'm happy for people in USA because of this decision. Non-compete contracts are bloody awful. I can somewhat accept it if you work on super secret tech that company A is researching and engineering and then want to go to company B that is researching exactly same thing (trade secrets are quite an interesting thing that will play part here with or without non-compete anyway), but even then it would have to be provable that move to company B would harm company A with some extra boundaries to avoid abuse, but if you're frontend engineer and want to move to company D from company C for better pay, f*ck off with that non-compete, there's no place here for that nonsense.
@ambiarock590
@ambiarock590 11 күн бұрын
The US has a long way to go with catching up to other more developed nations. The US is falling far behind in some aspects and I hope it catches up soon
@bradl2636
@bradl2636 12 күн бұрын
“… not even a good bang” 😂😂😂 5:30am Saturday morning in a quiet suburb of the biggest city in Western Australia out front watering the garden and I laughed so loud I think I woke up the neighbours
@96ethanh
@96ethanh 8 күн бұрын
"It's taking away the freedom of someone to take away your freedom". Well said.
@thomasoreilly6140
@thomasoreilly6140 5 күн бұрын
Thank you for your perspective, and for your leadership in right to repair. :)
@cmozoo
@cmozoo 12 күн бұрын
I hate non-competes! When I've had to sign a non-compete to have a job to put food on my table, I felt screwed and I knew I was screwed. And when pretty much all the employers in a specialized small niche of jobs, basically you're going nowhere and wages are now basically controlled at piss poor rates.
@strategygaming5830
@strategygaming5830 12 күн бұрын
The Thomas Sowell quote is about Sowell working for the government when he was in his 20's and he found the solution to the problem they were tasked to solve by figuring out if they could track how much sugar cane was destroyed in the hurricanes by asking the other department of the government. He requested the info and is still waiting for the response till this day (he's 93 year old now) because he realized right then that if he solved the problem the people tasked to it would be out of a job so they didn't want solutions and that government was inherently incompetent.
@AngryVet44
@AngryVet44 12 күн бұрын
Thomas Sowell mouthpiece for the Reagan Revolution , Milton Friedman, PRO monopoly advocate(the Anti Trust paradox) Robert Bork, The Koch Brothers(who FUNDED the anti democratic Citizens UNITED Decision that allows them to LEGALLY buy and sell YOUR POLITICIANS), the Heritage foundation, Cato Institute, Americans for Progress etc etc etc etc. Billionaire libertarian pushed (NEVER) trickles down neoliberal REAGANOMICS that has GUT CUT DEMONIZED AND PRIVATIZED the USA from the wealthiest largest middle class in history to the 2nd Gilded age IN JUST A BOOMER’s LIFESPAN??? Yeah totally going to take HIS WORD FOR ANYTHING🙄
@XDWX
@XDWX 12 күн бұрын
I remember that story. I think I watched the video a year or two ago.
@DavidPereiraLima123
@DavidPereiraLima123 12 күн бұрын
This man is the GOAT, no wonder the social activists demonize him. A brain is a menace.
@CesarFerraro2
@CesarFerraro2 11 күн бұрын
@@DavidPereiraLima123 Thomas Sowell may have some interesting things to say, but the idea that an absurd extrapolation of his anecdote is supposed to convince anyone of anything is pretty funny. For anyone wanting to see someone critically discuss Sowell's work: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rMCahruEl7TIg2Q.html
@Callsign_Sturm
@Callsign_Sturm 11 күн бұрын
@@CesarFerraro2 Want another one? My mother worked as a contractor for good Uncle Sam a long, long time ago. The office she was working for did 1 binder a day... For the entire office. She said WTF? And took home a whole box of binders. She completed five binders a night by herself. When it was discovered, EVERYONE in the office got really upset with her and said it was making everyone else look bad and that she needed to stop or the quota would increase because of her efficiency. It paid well. Hourly. They were milking the contract. Yeah....
@kharyrobertson3579
@kharyrobertson3579 11 күн бұрын
It's crazy as well because non competes have made it into all kinds of professions like security guards and fast food employees. It shows how disingenuous the idea of non competes really is because what secrets do a fast food worker gain that they can't go work at another fast food joint?
@askme7777777
@askme7777777 12 күн бұрын
for someone like, say, the guy who knows half the coke recipe, i can see them being made to sign some things. but that's a very one-off kind of situation. i keep hearing about nurses, hair stylists, and restaurant workers being made to sign non-competes as if there's some sort of important trade secret they're going to bring from one place to the next. but in reality, it's just those places trying to shackle them by holding their skillset, experience, and ability to support themselves hostage so they can force them to stay, regardless of how they're treated or what they're getting paid.
@gromitNOR83
@gromitNOR83 12 күн бұрын
My country fixed non-competes by imposing maximum length and requiring the company pay their salary whilst it is active. Thus the few that get them they usually only are valid 3-6 months.
@trukklob2227
@trukklob2227 12 күн бұрын
Thanks for quoting Thomas Sowell, more people can benefit from his common sense wisdom.
@dansanger5340
@dansanger5340 12 күн бұрын
His anti-gay rants from 20 years ago have not aged well.
@HonshuHigamori
@HonshuHigamori 11 күн бұрын
@@dansanger5340 only if you think truth isn't timeless
@TheWolfgangGrimmer
@TheWolfgangGrimmer 11 күн бұрын
@@dansanger5340 Nice ad hominem fallacy right there. Anything true which Sowell says, is true, regardless of whatever else he may or may not have said.
@dansanger5340
@dansanger5340 11 күн бұрын
@@TheWolfgangGrimmer You seem to have committed the straw man fallacy by reading more into my simple observation than I ever intended. It was not intended as an argument against the question at hand, but as a caution against trying to turn someone into an oracle, which can lead to the appeal to authority fallacy. Even though I agree with much of what Thomas Sowell says, I am turned off by the hero worship that seems to follow him, because he has also put forward arguments that lack intellectual rigor.
@TheWolfgangGrimmer
@TheWolfgangGrimmer 11 күн бұрын
@@dansanger5340 That _might_ be fair, except that I doubt you just equally call out every instance of over-glorifying of someone you ever witness. Last I checked no one really makes that kind of effort. Which raises the question, why make the effort to react to this one in particular, and without bothering to give any nuance to the claim?
@MirceaBurdusa
@MirceaBurdusa 8 сағат бұрын
I have been watching your videos for a few months and I never made the time to leave a comment and thank you for your work. But I do want to let you know that your work is really appreciated, even if it's not always revealed in a direct fashion. Thank you for everything you do!
@leximarie2182
@leximarie2182 11 күн бұрын
You are a true exemplary in the world of 'business ethics'.
@Tempires
@Tempires 12 күн бұрын
In Finland we can have non-compete clauses for certain positions(for example researchers). Clause is valid if employee leaves(do not apply if get fired or due to other employer's action). During period of non-compete clause is valid ex-employee needs to pay 40% of your salary for first 6 months and 60% of your salary for longer period.
@SteelHex
@SteelHex 12 күн бұрын
They say that free market and competition is great, yet the same people then turn around and support non compete agreements. I don’t understand.
@michaelblair5566
@michaelblair5566 12 күн бұрын
I worked IT in Huntington, WV for $12.75 hr in the early 2000's. I was stuck because of a noncompete. The slimeball I worked for also replaced Americans with H-1B's. My work was being billed at $120/hr, I was getting less than $13/hr.
@Dogo.R
@Dogo.R 11 күн бұрын
Listen to this but replace "employee" and "employeer" with "2 people in a marriage". The logic applies EXACTLY the same. Edit: He ended up making this same point like 70% through. Glad we are seeing the same throughline.
@DellikkilleD
@DellikkilleD 12 күн бұрын
make companies fight over workers, like it was supposed to be
@amc9329
@amc9329 12 күн бұрын
The law of contracts only works in a hypothetical system where all parties to the contract have the same relative power within society. No one signing a contract with a company that has resources can protect their interests against a motivated bad actor unless they have a Union or a Government holding the company accountable. Libertarians can LARP all day long about free markets, but unrestricted markets don't stay free for long.
@haydenlee8332
@haydenlee8332 11 күн бұрын
I'm glad you mentioned this. Many libertarians and right-wing people always preach "All rules, goverenment & regulations = bad" ideology. However, there are many rules and restrictions out there that aim to increase the overall net freedom of humankind, by restricting the "freedom to suppress larger number of people's freedom" that only a select few have in our society. If a video game's balance is so broken that everything but one single playstyle is worth it, then the game developers should make extra patches to make viable playstyles become more diverse. It's pretty much the same thing.
@davidfarnsworth466
@davidfarnsworth466 10 күн бұрын
I started watching you 2 months before the pandemic hit and at the time you were riding your bike around NYC. I was researching transportation and points of interest for my honeymoon in February 2020. Glad to to have NYC before the apocalypse and that you are still a podcast that pops out
@brianrobinson3961
@brianrobinson3961 12 күн бұрын
Louis with the fresh haircut!
@lawsonfrazier
@lawsonfrazier 12 күн бұрын
There is one form of Non Compete that makes sense... If you are selling a business you built to take the cash out and run it makes sense for the purchaser to have you sign a non compete for a number of years in that market as part of the sale. Not for the employees just for the Senior management/owners/founders. Without that noncompete the cash paid for the business will be reduced considerably. But that is a special case and would not affect employees.
@DKNguyen3.1415
@DKNguyen3.1415 11 күн бұрын
But does it even make sense in that case? I imagine that pretty much everything of value would be held in IP rather than the founder just starting up a business again from scratch. It's back breaking to come up with IP. Well, I suppose you could be selling a business that doesn't involve IP but instead involves reputation or connections?
@shepherdsgamingrun
@shepherdsgamingrun 9 күн бұрын
Owners and senior management are not included in the FTC ruling.
@Frostgnaw
@Frostgnaw 12 күн бұрын
If my employer ever told me something I needed to do was unpaid, I'd laugh at him clock out, and go home. You think I show up just for fun? Get the fuck out of here or pay me for my services.
@mothebad
@mothebad 6 күн бұрын
My takeaway from is this is that instead of using tinder, I should take people who are already in relationships
@doltBmB
@doltBmB 12 күн бұрын
Imagine if Microsoft had a non-compete clause in the 90's. No Valve.
@ambiarock590
@ambiarock590 11 күн бұрын
The worst timeline
@dgschrei
@dgschrei 12 күн бұрын
As a european where non-competes for non-executive positions are already illegal I'm all for this. What I am however not a fan of is the FTC being the ones to institute this rule. The FTC is part of the executive branch of government. It's job is to enforce existing laws and not to invent new ones. That's the job of the legislative branch i.e. Congress. I fear this will be stricken down by the Supreme Court for the clear constitutional overreach this represents. And rightfully so. Government agencies can under no circumstances be allowed to function as quasi-legislative bodies. The potential for abuse is way too high.
@PeterAllenLab
@PeterAllenLab 12 күн бұрын
From Cory Doctorow: "The FTC's statutory authority to block noncompetes comes from Section 5 of the FTC Act, which bans "unfair methods of competition" (hard to imagine a less fair method than indenturing your workers). Section 6(g) of the Act lets the FTC make rules to enforce Section 5's ban on unfairness. Both are good law - 6(g) has been used many times (26 times in the five years from 1968-73 alone!)."
@chrisalmighty
@chrisalmighty 12 күн бұрын
Have you heard of delegated legislation? The FTC is enforcing the fairness which is well within the FTC Act
@kevinzhang9591
@kevinzhang9591 12 күн бұрын
the issue is Congress effectively delegated authority to FTC, the lawsuit will determine whether or not this rule is within the FTC's delegated authority
@phamthanh4785
@phamthanh4785 12 күн бұрын
The FTC is technically not stepping out of their boundaries, they are empowered to police unfair or deceptive business practices by the FTC Act. In terms of the substance, the FTC is sort of creating a new law. But this behavior is not surprising coming from the FTC: they are already the de facto data privacy regulator in the US for more than a decade by now, and created an entire common business practice surround data privacy in the US. One should be blaming the useless Congress who has been spending the past 2 decades plus bickering among each other and not passing useful laws.
@user-lk2vo8fo2q
@user-lk2vo8fo2q 6 күн бұрын
Do you not have the concept of "regulations" in Europe, or are you just kind of confused about how the American government works? I can't imagine you guys have your legislature come up with every speed limit for fear of "constitutional overreach". Let me give you a hint: who do you think gave the FTC the power to do this? Was it (a) the supreme court, (b) a paramilitary coup, or (c) a democratically elected legislative body? We don't have to pointlessly fearmonger about the "potential for abuse" either. We already know what that looks like... because we've had several decades of FTC corruption. They did nothing. That's right, a corrupt FTC is an FTC that does nothing at all. In other words, the absolute worst case scenario is identical to the situation you're advocating for where the FTC doesn't have this power.
@hardwire666too
@hardwire666too 10 күн бұрын
If an employer tried to "guilt me" into free overtime they are going to learn really quick who is actually in charge.
@jefflassle6994
@jefflassle6994 8 күн бұрын
In Oregon when I resigned under these noncompetes after witnessing the CEO committing a felony child molestation crime, Oregon allows the theft of all unpaid earned income and forced investment in the company. I forfeited over $5 million dollars when I resigned not knowing this and never once violated the contract. Then the defamation came and I was forced to move under threat of lawsuit and physical harm to California where these contracts were illegal. That didn't stop the company and its law firm. They blacklisted all of us through a national business association where the CEO was chair forever knocking myself and others out of our careers where I went six years to college to obtain.
@AraCarrano
@AraCarrano 12 күн бұрын
On April 25, 2024, the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) voted to restore Obama-era net neutrality rules in a 3-2 vote along partisan lines. This comes seven years after the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) repealed the same net neutrality rules in 2017.
@kawkasaurous
@kawkasaurous 12 күн бұрын
Out of curiosity, what changed when net neutrality was repealed? What is expected to change when it's restored? From what I remember the Obama Era net neutrality rules weren't anything to do with a neutral internet
@PeterAllenLab
@PeterAllenLab 12 күн бұрын
@@kawkasaurous Without net neutrality, (for example) Comcast can slow down streams from Netflix (a competing media company) or charge Netflix for "fast lane" status. It's not about content (political neutrality), it's about who can get bandwidth.
@damien7157
@damien7157 12 күн бұрын
@@PeterAllenLab Lets not forget that if Comcast charges Netflix for this "fast lane" status that charge is going to be passed on to the consumer and all the consumer wouldn't even know Comcast is at fault they will just see Netflix price increases.
@MasterFrag91
@MasterFrag91 12 күн бұрын
@@kawkasaurous Not much changed, in part because ISPs expected that it would flip flop as the agency's board members changed, because FCC board membership is not an elected position, what did change was the push to regulate ISPs under Title II classification, which is for common carriers. Net neutrality is important, in essence, it's the idea that ISPs should not shape, slow down, or otherwise prioritize/deprioritize different types of web traffic. Ideally, it should go hand-in-hand with ISPs being classed as common carriers (think how land line phones were regulated, as well as electricity, water, and other essential utilities), which opens ISPs up to being regulated as the essential utility the internet has become, allowing them to push for higher speed for lower prices, as well as giving them more controls of which to work with to make the tens of billions of dollars given to ISPs by the government to improve connectivity that they just do nothing with. NN sort of requires Title II classification to fully work, because it is pretty much guidelines as to how to treat internet traffic, which is to say, the ISPs should treat your connection as a dumb pipe, and not do any real prioritization within reason. Along with Title II, we'd see much better internet speeds, for much lower prices, and Title II also opens up concepts like forcing local loop unbundling, basically translating to opening fiber lines to similar circumstances as the old copper telephone lines (meaning any ISP can offer any service off of it, like DSL in the past). After the Trump administration elected Ajit Pai to the chairman position to the FCC, he basically dropped all attempts to reclassify internet as a common carrier medium, and in fact pushed hard to have it considered as beyond the FCC's control (which is silly, internet a communication medium). But again, very little changed for the average person in part because the effort to charge people out the ass ISPs put in would be undone in 4-8 years anyway, because that's how American politics work.
@blabberblabbing8935
@blabberblabbing8935 12 күн бұрын
Fully agreed: non compete are BS. But just shows that libertarianism is unsustainable because it leads to contradictions like this one.
@donaldthompson7766
@donaldthompson7766 12 күн бұрын
So, are you a communist?
@FourthRoot
@FourthRoot 12 күн бұрын
Imperfect is not the same as unsustainable.
@Malikav0311
@Malikav0311 12 күн бұрын
Libertarians tend to have a beautifully ideal, but completely naive and simplistic view on human nature and social cohesion.
@akumarajio2691
@akumarajio2691 12 күн бұрын
Not really I don't think non-competes enforce a free market, it's the opposite and the fact governments allow it for the big players and friends says a lot. Sure people that jerk corporations probably do think it's healthy but not in my eyes. Just more mafias using abusive tactics to people that want a fair a chance at peddling their own trade in a fair market.
@Grero
@Grero 12 күн бұрын
"I will call my unwillingness to follow rules I agreed to 'unsustainable.'" - OP
@shadowprince4482
@shadowprince4482 8 күн бұрын
I had one employer who paid more, gave me more hours, was closer to home, and I still quit and went to a different job with everything worse except my boss wasn't an a-hole. Worth it.
@Can_I_Live_
@Can_I_Live_ 11 күн бұрын
So happy to see you come out with this video. This is pretty great news for peasants like me and I love to see a business owner with a level head on this.
@grubbyga7601
@grubbyga7601 12 күн бұрын
EU passed Right to Repair law. 🎉
@chadmckean9026
@chadmckean9026 11 күн бұрын
a real one or some loop hole filled vanity law
@thehatems
@thehatems 12 күн бұрын
100% agreed. You spoke my mind!
@myrrathexe
@myrrathexe 11 күн бұрын
I'm really excited to be able to follow my dreams of running my own company now that my non-compete will be invalid.
@MA_KA_PA_TIE
@MA_KA_PA_TIE 12 күн бұрын
Lou is giving the reasoning behind stealing a friends spouse instead of dating a random 😂
@ChristopherBurtraw
@ChristopherBurtraw 12 күн бұрын
It's no coincidence that married men have higher rates of success with other women.
@gscurd75
@gscurd75 12 күн бұрын
He is a janitor? Then why is he over there fixing a motherboard? Oh that falls into other duties as assigned.
@wayward03
@wayward03 9 күн бұрын
Agree completely. The comment on the spouse thing is that you sign a non compete because of the damage to the kids. Leave for abuse and the few other serious issues, not for boredom or a fling. Marriage is not a Job.
@Dani68ABminus
@Dani68ABminus 12 күн бұрын
There's nothing I cherish more than people who have a moral core. You are the real deal!
@akumarajio2691
@akumarajio2691 12 күн бұрын
I am a libertarian and I think non-competes are anti-capitalistic. If you are restrained between a choice of getting a small token wage or a zero base wage unemployment with no meritocratic upward mobility or outward chance of gaining a better offer, how is it any different to how governments run a forced public system? Not to mention corporations are just pseudo-governmental entities that tyrannise smaller competitors into submission or destruction and use the letter of the law rather than the spirit of the agreed contract (assuming they don't break it without consequence) like governments do anyway. It's just another mafia style power with a different paintjob.
@M167A1
@M167A1 12 күн бұрын
Regulation always benefits the biggest players. In this case, there's no longer going to be any reason to provide more than the absolute minimum training and forget about continuing Ed. Instead of promoting from within, companies will go outside to find someone who's already trained. Y'all think you're making it better, but you're just killing the golden goose.
@bountygiver2
@bountygiver2 12 күн бұрын
Bold of you to assume companies are already not providing the absolute minimum with a non compete on top
@M167A1
@M167A1 12 күн бұрын
​@@bountygiver2I get your and understand the cynicism. However, I think my point stands. If you have a long-term employee, that you are reasonably, confident is going to stay with you, you are more likely to invest in them. Without that investment, everyone is interchangeable and expendable.
@gstlynx
@gstlynx 10 күн бұрын
You are one of my favorite modern philosophers.
@legoruthead
@legoruthead 7 күн бұрын
"Laws that take away the freedom of somebody else to take away your freedom" are by far the most important type of laws
@lonnyt8053
@lonnyt8053 12 күн бұрын
This really is an oversimplification. There are many types of non-competes that are necessary. 1. I hire you and and willing to spend $100,000 training you in my proprietary equipment and processes. Right after the training you leave. 2. I buy out your company for a handsome figure, and you immediately open another business doing the same thing across the street. In both cases, it's more than reasonable to have a 3 or 5 year non-compete in the same region. Non-competes in an industry where the training is generic and the no "secrets" involved (like fast food) are insane, but you can't just lump all non-competes together and ban them all. A business will sell for far less if the previous owner can just open anew and compete with the new owner. Businesses will be hard pressed to spend a lot of money training an employee that can just take off right after. The military does something similar .. we'll pay for your college, and you sign up for 6 or 8 years. No different.
@Demopans5990
@Demopans5990 12 күн бұрын
It's the few bad employers ruining it for everyone else
@logicalfundy
@logicalfundy 7 күн бұрын
In the first case, you should evaluate why the employee left. Training in proprietary stuff should fall under NDA. In the second case - I don't agree with hostile takeovers in general, and I definitely think people should be allowed to leave a workplace - and even start their own business, yes - if they have problems with a new employer during a takeover.
@Daerioz
@Daerioz 11 күн бұрын
I think a much bigger problem than whether or not non-competes should be legal is the fact that a third-party organization that we don't vote for and doesn't have law-making authority is making and enforcing their own laws. (FTC, FEC, ATF, SEC, alphabet soup etc.) If the FTC is part of the executive branch (and they are) their role is to enforce existing laws. The legislative branch makes law, not the executive. Now the FTC and friends are doing both without any oversight or authority of any kind. If you think this is a good thing for the average American, you aren't paying any attention.
@RedZeitgeist
@RedZeitgeist 7 күн бұрын
Shill
@MegaLokopo
@MegaLokopo 3 күн бұрын
Non competes also encourage employees to be lazy, because you aren't going to fire me, I do the bare minimum, someone new is going to take a ton of your time to train, because everyone who is trained at a different company can't even be considered because they signed a non compete. While if we didn't have non competes, the pool of available job applicants is larger and I have to try harder to compete.
@Ultrajamz
@Ultrajamz 11 күн бұрын
I’m OK with non-competes if they are willing to pay severance for the duration I need to wait between jobs for the non-compete to expire.
@VladimirGorev
@VladimirGorev 12 күн бұрын
We really have to talk about your perceptions of capitalism, because you have some idealistic view on the subject.
@rossmanngroup
@rossmanngroup 12 күн бұрын
Capitalism works better when businesses have more incentive to compete with each other. 1) They have to provide more value to customers so they can make additional profits so they can pay employees enough to not have them leave. 2) Employees have an incentive to improve their skills they wouldn't with a non-compete - why get better at your job when you can't get hired somewhere else anyway?
@VladimirGorev
@VladimirGorev 12 күн бұрын
@@rossmanngroup where does competition lead to?
@absolutium
@absolutium 12 күн бұрын
​@@rossmanngroupUnfortunately the final goal of capitalism is having no competition and complete dominance within the sector. Once that process is achieved the product/service is forced onto people by governmental designation of resources which is quickly authorized due to the financial "incentives" the corporation facilitates to the representatives. At some point there is not even a product there just the monetary obligation from your gov to this entity which is guaranteed by taxation.
@VladimirGorev
@VladimirGorev 12 күн бұрын
@@absolutium well said, glad to hear some educated folks ;)
@opiumpodium55
@opiumpodium55 12 күн бұрын
@@absolutium thats why the ftc exists they are supposed to prevent monopolies
@stargeezer8427
@stargeezer8427 9 күн бұрын
You're a good guy Louis, glad you got out of Jersey. 👍
@Nanan00
@Nanan00 12 күн бұрын
Be the better employer and you won't lose employees, it is that simple.
@likebot.
@likebot. 10 күн бұрын
I was really confused about the FTC banning non-compete agreements. After listening to this for a few minutes I was blown away. I've never heard of an employer making someone sign a non-compete agreement as a term of employment. This is the kind of thing you sign when you leave a job, usually lasts 5 years and the employer typically pays you a signing bonus equal or greater than 5 years salary. Entering a job under that restriction should only last as long as you're in that employment, else the non-compete should be illegal.
@thoughtsofanobody
@thoughtsofanobody 6 күн бұрын
F non competes. The only time I ever agreed to one was for a job I knew I wouldn’t like in a field that eroded my soul and I knew I would escape as quickly as possible to literally any other field. Because, well, gotta pay the ever rising monthly blood tithe, excuse me, I mean “rent”, to our corporate overlords.
@SnackCakes
@SnackCakes 10 күн бұрын
I appreciate these videos since they give me food for thought on topics I never thought twice about. I'm an LPC so non-compete isn't common in my field, so it's neat to hear about it here.
@shadowj5639
@shadowj5639 12 күн бұрын
Once upon a time the company I was working for got acquired by a bigger one. The bigger one forced us to sign non-competes to keep our jobs. Luckily, in our state that kind of non-compete was only enforceable for salespeople who had clients or customers they could take. It could not be enforced against professionals or technicians or the such. I got out of there as fast as I could.
@TheTulerie
@TheTulerie 8 күн бұрын
I was so happy when I heard the FTC did this. I do like my current employer, but they did have me sign an NCA when I started working for them. I always want to keep my options open
Youtube's Legal Team sent me a letter! 😃
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