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Waymo

Waymo

Күн бұрын

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@nusskaste
@nusskaste 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, John Krafick really learned his talking points and how to dance around questions.
@banjirjir7519
@banjirjir7519 3 жыл бұрын
that how they bcome ceo dont give ppl what they want
@TheUnknownFactor
@TheUnknownFactor 3 жыл бұрын
Id wish they hadnt danced around the question of timeline so much. I've been a fan of Waymo since the start, but it feels like Waymo is fine with forever being a trial thing somewhere in phoenix. As someone who is vision impaired, it is very frustrating to see Waymo seeming not to have scaled up at all in the past 7 or 8 years.
@FrancescoDiMauro
@FrancescoDiMauro 3 жыл бұрын
he basically danced around each and every question
@slash196
@slash196 3 жыл бұрын
It's not a CEO's job to write checks he can't cash.
@banjirjir7519
@banjirjir7519 3 жыл бұрын
that how 1 bcome ceo nvr give anything to others
@setheroth28092
@setheroth28092 3 жыл бұрын
Waymo is hitting the brick wall that is LIDAR. In order to have a scalable solution, your driverless system needs to run only on cameras. Tesla is the only company capable of achieving this.
@banjirjir7519
@banjirjir7519 3 жыл бұрын
@@setheroth28092 yea,scalable with death
@perrywilliam4114
@perrywilliam4114 3 жыл бұрын
Damn you waymo, if you'd pop up 15 years earlier I wouldn't have to drive those damn cars, I hate driving. Can't wait for waymo.
@matthewswanson2707
@matthewswanson2707 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn't have said it better myself ,i feel the same way about driving.
@Jayismynickname
@Jayismynickname 3 жыл бұрын
Why can’t you wait for any self driving system
@communityband1
@communityband1 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the answer about how human attention span declines as the technology grows more capable. It's unrealistic to expect people to stay alert when their vehicle drives a whole day, week or month without a mistake. Humans suck at playing the backup role. That problem will likely become more evident soon, and that may be when we see regulation. On the flip side, when humans are the primary drivers and technology serves as the backup to prevent us from screwing up, it can really save lives. But for autonomous driving, I support Waymo's approach. It should be all or nothing.
@kikidoll7101
@kikidoll7101 3 жыл бұрын
That answer confused me actually as the ride share doesn’t require any human intervention. One could sleep, apply makeup etc. in the backseat right? Tesla requires hands on the wheel and other viable passenger alert cues. Waymo has gotten stuck in areas a human driver could maneuver quite easily. So basically it makes sense to market a commercial Waymo as full autonomy with human attentiveness when necessary. This is a learning curve for us all.
@communityband1
@communityband1 3 жыл бұрын
@@kikidoll7101 Yes, Waymo's service is fully autonomous - you ride in the backseat and can do whatever. You don't need a license at all. In his answer, Krafcik was talking about a video that Google recorded back in the very early days of the self-driving project. Years ago, before they were even "Waymo," the Google team was actually building something very much like what Tesla has today. They had a system that could drive itself in certain situations, but it was not at a stage where human drivers should ever completely trust it. What they discovered then is what Tesla has learned since - humans can't be trusted to stay attentive. The better the system gets at driving itself, the more the human driver trusts it and takes risks. The difference here is that Google and Tesla made very different decisions upon discovering this. Google decided to abandon that direction altogether. They believed, as I do, that the problem of human inattentiveness would only get worse as the technology gets better. And so instead of pursuing a business model where their system would always require complete human attention up to the point where it can finally, truly drive itself without human monitoring, they decided instead to only ever offer a product to customers that offered that final, fully autonomous service. Tesla, by comparison, has chosen the route of offering the partial service and placing the responsibility squarely on the human drivers. And of course, there have been accidents, some fatal, that have resulted from human drivers failing to stay vigilant. What really remains to be seen is how this progresses. If Tesla's self-driving functionality improves, will more people die as more of them fail to be ready to react when necessary? And will governments respond with regulation? Thus far, Tesla has managed to dodge issues by putting the blame on drivers when these accidents happen. But if they're asking humans to do something that humans just can't do, that may not last.
@kikidoll7101
@kikidoll7101 3 жыл бұрын
@@communityband1 IA Waymo’s discretion helped their tech overall. Now it’s time to do a soft consumer roll out bc I have a Tesla but would still feel safer in a Waymo powered vehicle.
@EH46_Scotland
@EH46_Scotland 3 жыл бұрын
Of all artificial intelligence cars, I believe in Waymo the most, and I am just waiting for 5 levels of artificial intelligence to be installed.
@slash196
@slash196 3 жыл бұрын
Waymo is way ahead of the game. The second they go public I'm buying in.
@tammysanders4812
@tammysanders4812 3 жыл бұрын
you should buy $googl then, their parent company
@mike8055
@mike8055 3 жыл бұрын
Waymo needs to 3D map the area where the cars operate. Thus, the cars in Phoenix are geofenced to a particular area. The mapping could become expensive over time. When new roads are built, new traffic lights installed etc, they will need to re-map the area!
@FrancescoDiMauro
@FrancescoDiMauro 3 жыл бұрын
you may have your reasons to hate Musk, and he may be overly optimistic with timelines in general, but he speaks way less bs than other CEOs
@matthewfelgate
@matthewfelgate 3 жыл бұрын
Let's go Waymo!
@AndrewMeyer
@AndrewMeyer 3 жыл бұрын
21:14 Interesting. So the cost of the driverless system =~ the price of the car? That's actually not too bad for a self-driving taxi service.
3 жыл бұрын
Somehow this approach does not scale
@sarbjotsingh9998
@sarbjotsingh9998 3 жыл бұрын
They don't do anything that doesn't scale lol
@matthewswanson2707
@matthewswanson2707 3 жыл бұрын
Go waymo!!😃😃😃😃
@perrywilliam4114
@perrywilliam4114 3 жыл бұрын
John you got the best autonomous driver. Can u tell us when the best autonomous pilot is going to bloom. Any plans for waymo air? Or waymo sky?
@aprilj1838
@aprilj1838 3 жыл бұрын
I would really like some Waymo-wear!! 🙏😁
@larsfroelich
@larsfroelich 3 жыл бұрын
He seriously said Tesla is not a competitor? "Driver assist technology"? wtf
@banjirjir7519
@banjirjir7519 3 жыл бұрын
tesla is level 3,so i kinda see the point its kinda arrogant ,if tesla did reach level 5 decades later
@larsfroelich
@larsfroelich 3 жыл бұрын
@@banjirjir7519 Don't confuse their technology with their product, big differences between the two at the moment.
@user-zy2oi7iv8h
@user-zy2oi7iv8h 3 жыл бұрын
@@larsfroelich actually, waymo believes that l2.5 and l4 are different technology as Waymo's CEO explained it as "you cannot learn how to fly by jumping higher and higher.". As an engineer working in this space I personally do agree with Waymo. They are very very very different, their design goal is completly different and the technology are iterate towards completely different set of metrics.
@user-zy2oi7iv8h
@user-zy2oi7iv8h 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-io4sr7vg1v *Now* Tesla is not building a car and allow no person on driver seat, Waymo is. When there is an accident Tesla is not responsible, Waymo is. Tesla's techonology *now* is not capable of doing "full selfdriving"(at least they don't have the confidence to take the responsibilities), but Waymo is. Can Tesla's tech become L4+?possible. But everyone working on L4+ is not taking that approach. Either everyone(big tech firms + billions dollar investments) except Elon Musk is stupid or Elon Musk is faking it until he make it or lose it.
@user-zy2oi7iv8h
@user-zy2oi7iv8h 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-io4sr7vg1v of course it is relavent. Its like whether you have the confidence to get things right *every single time*. That is way harder than just get it correct for once or multiple times. If you do not have the confidence, you are not full-self driving and you need a driver.
@kikidoll7101
@kikidoll7101 3 жыл бұрын
Love the tech. I feel it’s leaps ahead of Tesla. They shouldn’t license their own cars per se but should license the technology to car manufacturers. There is a big and hungry market for autonomous vehicles.
@CookiePepper
@CookiePepper 3 жыл бұрын
I could not hear what he said. "Waymo is the most expensive driver." right?
@luzi29
@luzi29 3 жыл бұрын
Can't you just connect waymo to let's say a vwID3 if not why not 🤷🏼‍♂️
@swapnilnandgaonkar7052
@swapnilnandgaonkar7052 3 жыл бұрын
INDIA is waiting for Self-driving technology
@Anti-socialSocialClub
@Anti-socialSocialClub 3 жыл бұрын
unfortunately I think places like India will have to wait a very long time for self driving. In the U.S road markings a very clear, organised and complete. In addition, regulations are very rigid, pedestrians only cross on zebra crossings and always wait for their lights to go green before crossing (even europeans get freaked out by this) This makes it much easier for the self driving cars. The quality of road markings and adherence to regulations in places like India will need an extra level of road markings.
@apexpredator1018
@apexpredator1018 3 жыл бұрын
Good point. The same goes for autonomous delivery, which may encounter numerous issues with unmarked residences and incorrect GPS coordinates. Road infrastructure will need revision to support these machines, otherwise uptake could be difficult
@cynthiathomas2449
@cynthiathomas2449 3 жыл бұрын
I live in New York, I have a driver's licence but I hate to drive. Can't wait for it to come here.
@shaktigurung1791
@shaktigurung1791 3 жыл бұрын
Elon musk : there is nothing to lose, lets do it Waymo ceo: I might lose my job if i screw up.
@VascoElbrecht
@VascoElbrecht 3 жыл бұрын
Do not forget that waymo cars are ALSO still monitored by (remote) waymo employees! So calling waymo full self driving, while saying Tesla has only driver assist because it needs monitoring by the driver, is a very poor and misleading argument. Both technologies are fairly autonomous, but both still need monitoring from some human because they will encounter situations they have not yet trained for.
@ehvlullo
@ehvlullo 3 жыл бұрын
Waymo's don't need continuous monitoring. It's not second-to-second, but situational input those remote assistants give. They don't need to be involved for accidents not to happen. Communication from Waymo has been quite clear on this point, see e.g. latest Lex Friedman interview with Dmitri Dolgov.
@sarbjotsingh9998
@sarbjotsingh9998 3 жыл бұрын
Tesla doesnt have tech for remote input. Another reason they will take longer to launch robo taxis
@aprilj1838
@aprilj1838 3 жыл бұрын
Making it easy for the Tesla fans: 1. Butt in the seat = driver assist. 2. No butt in the seat = self-driving. Period. 😁 you’re welcome.
@banjirjir7519
@banjirjir7519 3 жыл бұрын
both r not level 5,but r figgin arrogant sure that company cant do this,that company cant do that theres no autonomous car yet
@tomyao7884
@tomyao7884 2 жыл бұрын
Waymo is unfortunately not completely autonomous - it needs human intervention from operations when the car is unsure what to do. If it was fully autonomous, I would believe in its ability to profit and scale. As it is, its mostly just hyped up vaporware. I think the tech is not yet fundamentally different from tesla FSD in that they both still need human monitoring and intervention. If they actually develop fully autonomous vehicles, and not just say that they did, they would have a good window to make lots of profit.
@adamrhaman5833
@adamrhaman5833 3 жыл бұрын
What a big mouth. LIDAR cant make a fullly self driving car that "can go anywhere, do anything". LIDAR can work for a office shuttle on a wide road for a few blocks, hence Arizona. Try that in NYC.
@ravitejaknts
@ravitejaknts 3 жыл бұрын
I think you are not even understanding what Elon said, but yet ready to comment on it. Tesla uses camera vision, radar, and sonar whereas Waymo uses Camera Vision, radar, Lidar, and Mapping tech. Now coming to the point, Lidar is just as capable as sonar and even better. But the problem is Lidar is costly. To give you an example, Tesla comes with self-driving and going to cost just as much as other cars whereas just retrofitting Waymo will cost as much as buying a new car. So Elon thinks Lidar isn't a great solution as it is going to cost a lot, not because it can't go anywhere. Second, Waymo can run anywhere without the need for mapping, if you have seen the video, he mentioned that they did that right back in 2013 which Tesla is doing today. Waymo is just going for a more safe and complete self-driving approach instead of incremental work like tesla. For your kind information, Tesla also cannot autopilot everywhere, it has its limits like highways.
@adamrhaman5833
@adamrhaman5833 3 жыл бұрын
@@ravitejaknts There is always a weird desi guy with a weird selfie pic, never drove a Tesla, yet acts like a smartass.
@ravitejaknts
@ravitejaknts 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamrhaman5833 you might also never drove Waymo, so how can you compare. At least I am better looking at both of them in an equal way.
@JonasLismont
@JonasLismont 3 жыл бұрын
Waymo seems stagnating... where Tesla is making rapid progress
@unsaturated8482
@unsaturated8482 3 жыл бұрын
mobileye vs waymo.
@Leon-pm6lr
@Leon-pm6lr 3 жыл бұрын
I see a high cost of human life’s at start.
@123koby
@123koby 3 жыл бұрын
I guess robo taxi will happen in Detroit in 2025.
@123koby
@123koby 3 жыл бұрын
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