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Secrets of the East: along a Hidden River to a Medieval shrine in Ilford (4K)
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Күн бұрынSecrets of the East: along a Hidden River to a Medieval shrine in Ilford, East London - the Alders Brook (in 4K)
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Our walk today takes us once again back into the past, where the landscape reveals the deep history of this area and tells us its stories. We start by exploring two Possible Prehistoric ditches on Wanstead Flats near Centre Road/north of the Jubilee Pond and running Southeast to Centre Road.
And then we pass through the uncanny suburb of Aldersbrook to pick up the River Roding. We follow the Roding as it runs beside Ilford Golf Club and find the mysterious little Alders Brook, a mysterious rivulet that for some of the year is little more than a muddy ditch hidden in the undergrowth. The recent floods and high tide have filled the Alders Brook with water and revealed it as a flowing river. We follow the Alders Brook as it passes beneath the railway bridge and then runs parallel to the Roman Romford Road and returns to the River Roding at Ilford Bridge beneath the North Circular flyover.
The final stretch of our walk takes us up Ilford Hill to the Hospital Chapel dedicated to St Mary and St Thomas of Canterbury. The Chapel was established around the year 1140 by the Abbess of Barking as a leper hospital. It became a stopping place for pilgrims and medieval travellers passing through the area. It's a wonderful hidden location.
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@mdf67 11 ай бұрын
The Ilford Hospital Chapel will be open for London Open House Festival in 2023 on Saturday 16th September 10am to 4pm on Sunday 17th September 1pm to 4.30pm. Guided tours. Do pop in to see us
@StevenKeery 4 ай бұрын
I lived in Ilford for a few years and passed the Chapel every day but I've never seen inside it. I had read that rhinoceros and elephant or mammoth bones had been uncovered along Ilford Lane during construction work. I imagine Ilford has changed a lot since I lived there.
@terryflynn1956 3 жыл бұрын
My Dad , when he was working in Walthamstow , dug up an object that he thought was an animal bone of some sort which turned out to be part of a mammoths tusk . He gave it to the vestry museum. Further proof that east London was prehistoric. Long live the rivers of London . 😊👍
@alltheteam69 3 жыл бұрын
When I think of all the roads I walked regularly especially Romford rd. Why was I never taught or told about ANY of this local history in school. William the Conqueror- Barking Abbey these are the stories that kids can relate too.....local history is so undervalued. Thanks John
@RajSinghKhalsa 3 жыл бұрын
Great memories of travelling down Romford road to ilford in the late 70's as a kid visiting relatives, in those days when ever you went to Ilford you were your best clothes alas them days are long gone. Thanks John
@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing that Raj - when I moved to Leytonstone 15 years ago Ilford was still where some people went to do their Christmas shopping. I used to look forward to going over there on days off. I think Stratford Westfield had a really negative impact on Ilford sadly
@jackpayne4658 3 жыл бұрын
When I first visited Wanstead Flats as a child, I thought the name referred to all the tower blocks I could see. I remember wondering what they called the big grassy space in the middle.
@dodgyrog416 3 жыл бұрын
Just saw the City of London Cemetery on your map. Whilst I now live in the North i came from Leytonstone and my Mum, Dad, Grandma and Grandad are buried there!
@highpath4776 3 жыл бұрын
I have an uncle and aunt (from Clapton) and wife has a long-lost cousin who started in Sheffield then via India and Japan to retirement in Woodford area
@keefgrump5193 3 жыл бұрын
Your enthusiasm for these walks,especially in winter never ceases to amaze me,I have taken to a motorised treadmill with the patio doors open and pretending I am walking along Canvey seafront.Well done .
@ChrisWoutdoors 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant John, really enjoyed this one.. I am a Riverkeeper on the South side of the Thames from you and its horrible to see so much rubbish in the Adlers brook.. London has so many secret spots that people pass and don't give any thought to. Looking for ward to your next walk... ATB Chris.
@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын
cheers Chris and greatly appreciate the work of the Riverkeepers
@bernardjakob8959 3 жыл бұрын
John, you are the middle-aged Londoners' Joe Wicks. You've made lockdown far more bearable Keep it up!
@marcusgotti8231 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a mid 90’s generation kid that was raised in Ilford-Forest Gate and I never knew there was so much history here. It always seemed for us hopeless and desolate but seeing this video helped me see the strong history beneath the urban decay. It also gives us a sense of identity and some hope so thank you for this.
@anthonymoore6009 3 жыл бұрын
As a fellow Londoner I really enjoy all the history that your walks include. Love the relaxed style. An oasis of tranquility in this mad world.
@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын
thanks Anthony
@4KExplorer 3 жыл бұрын
Will Kemp danced all the way from London to Norwich? Wow, I could never do that... I'd have given up at Bury St Edmunds.
@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын
apparently somebody repeated the feat a few years ago
@luxford60 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnRogersWalks It's been repeated a few times,. The original event took nine days (though not consecutive ones) and he published an account in a book called "The Nine Dayes Wonder". He did it after falling out with Shakespeare, some of whose comic characters had been written specifically for him.
@CyclingSteve 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnRogersWalks I assume for the repeats the route of the roman road wasn't used. Large parts of it are now unfortunately dual carriageway with no pavements. It's quite hard to dance or even walk between most towns these days.
@jatsajatsa 3 жыл бұрын
You'd be forgiven though. Many people have simply given up at Bury St Edmunds...
@PVAPPE 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is one of the great gems of KZfaq. I am pleased to see the number of subscribers has jumped to over 20,000. Even more to come!👏
@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын
thanks very much - very kind of you
@RIDDONS 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is fcuked!!! www.ilfordrecorder.co.uk/news/call-for-action-after-alders-brook-sewage-spill-7868490
@BaronMichaelDeBlone1066 3 жыл бұрын
@@RIDDONS That is terrible
@kaysridgedell3404 3 жыл бұрын
Such a joy to hear your enthusiasm when you take your walks & such fun when you find new discoveries on your way.
@tomleader7054 3 жыл бұрын
"The towers of Ilford through the trees". Oh, the romance of east London.
@brianjrichman 3 жыл бұрын
Hardly "romantic" at all really!
@aethellstan 3 жыл бұрын
I believe the irony is somewhat understated!
@Lawtasaj 3 жыл бұрын
The Hospital Chapel is a hidden jewel in London's crown! Very beautiful inside.
@annetteoutram 3 жыл бұрын
absolutely fascinating. Much i Knew, but much I didn't. One thing I really clearly remember is waiting for the bus home with my mother in the mid 1950's and my mum would invariably pop into that little chapel on Ilford Hill, and chat to the nuns who lived there. It was a very special memory returned to me, so thank you so much for that. I also recall that a part of this was sold off and demolished more recently to allow for the one way system and more building. Beautiful places sacrificed to traffic and pollution. It is insanity. Thanks for your lovely walk.
@Anybloke 3 жыл бұрын
Just enjoyed this on a snowy Sunday in NW England. With subtitles on, I learned a lot about "once dead flats". Thank you John.
@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын
Ha, that’s brilliant- I shall start calling it that from now on
@lamiaitaly2549 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to Wanstead Park, amazing how grand Wanstead House would have been. Come on Wanstead Golf Club and let John in. I’m sure they wouldn’t mind if you pop in.
@petermartin3818 3 жыл бұрын
Oh dear. Ilford used to be in Essex! My Nan used to live in York Mews off of York Road. The area around Aldersbrook river where it joins the Roding and where the Underground Tunnel Training Centre is now was the Aldersbrook Railway Hostel and Training Centre. This was an accommodation facility for rail staff on overnight stayovers when the railways were a national concern rather than the now limited local operations. It closed in the late 80s, but became a training facility for signalling operations and maintenance and continues today in its present guise. There was a local entrepreneur who wanted to build a marina at the confluence of the Aldersbrook to the Roding, and a couple of boats appeared but it came to nothing and the boats were sunk or set fire to. There was a local sea scouts training type establishment in the same area. Can remember Ilford Films and the Paper Makers Arms round the back streets. The one in the vid opposite Mill Road was the Rose & Crown. Sankeys' Pyruma Works was half way up Ilford Hill, and Mill Road was home to Holding & Barnes breakers yard. There was a South Essex Water Works steam pumping station and had visiting flocks of sheep to keep the grass short! The engine from the pumping station ended up at the Museum of Power at Langford near Maldon. If you visit Barking, find the Rushing Waters, from memory there was the remnants of a lock that kept the water level navigable upto Ilford. The Conservative Club was the old Police Station. Sorry no trolleybuses, but thats another story!👍
@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын
brilliant info Peter thanks so much
@ianspicer3885 3 жыл бұрын
A nostalgic walk through my home town , I have luved in Australia for 30 years it's changed a bit took a while to get my bearings . Look forward to your next walk 👍👍👍👍
@andicheese1763 4 ай бұрын
My friend and I picked up the Aldersbrook river and followed it to Ilford. We started in Snaresbrook with the Eagle pond and Hallow pond and walked our way through to Wanstead flats and the park. We then took the river roading walk and picked up the Aldersbrook. We then made our way to Ilford and the Wetherspoons pub for a few ales. Thanks for the video and the inspiration.
@BaronMichaelDeBlone1066 3 жыл бұрын
The rivers are remarkable aren't they and that is what makes all the litter so heartbreaking - taken part in some clean ups myself, not a pleasant business - I recommend people wear some heavy duty gloves as there can be syringes lying in amongst some of the rubbish. I love 'seeing' history and so particularly enjoyed this walk from the point where you mention the Conqueror and the jester. I actually got a ghostly shiver just as the Ilford Hospital Chapel came into view. I have read about the washing of the feet but did not know anything about this particular building. Twelfth century wow, you built up to that very well without spoiling it, the best thing I have seen so far in 2021, I love old buildings, thank you John.
@bw_digitalphotography 3 жыл бұрын
rivers and water courses always seem to have such a soothing quality about them, they seem to almost instantly soothe the soul. such a magical experience. river walks are my favourite. Great Stuff!
@earlmarshall5054 3 жыл бұрын
you get better.i could sit here watching your walks all day.great.
@morriganwitch 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you John walking Vicariously with you with a glass of wine and a pizza , still shielding . Thank you for giving me a glimpse to the outside xxx
@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure Morrigan - brighter days ahead and sounds like you're nicely sorted with the wine and pizza
@morriganwitch 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnRogersWalks indeed I feel brighter days ahead xxx
@kumaranravendradas4355 3 жыл бұрын
John, loved this video. You've been an inspiration since I first saw your videos before Xmas. On Boxing day, my brother and I went on a long walk through Wanstead park and following the Roding into Ilford...half way through I thought the Roding had narrowed considerably which was unusual...little did I know that I had stumbled onto the path you found of the Aldersbrook! What an amazing little find! and so glad you went to the Hospital chapel...must be many thousands of times I've walked past or driven past without even thinking what it might be. On our walk on Boxing day, my brother and I walked past and were left wondering about it's history but couldn't go in so really glad you've given us a great background to it. Who would've thought, amidst all the highrise modern buildings in Ilford, we would still be able to find a medieval relic! Money is a bit tight at the moment but I really hope to become a Patreon! Really looking forward to your Wanstead park walk - we were particularly intrigued by the Grotto!
@jazzman9042 3 жыл бұрын
In the 1950's as kids we used to walk down the long path on the right hand side of the cemetery to the Aldersbrook to catch sticklebacks, wonderful times indeed. As always a great and informative video. AAA+++
@mungmungie 3 жыл бұрын
Mention of William Kemp immediately brought to mind the lyric: "Since Robin Hood, Maid Marian, And Little John are gone, The hobby horse was quite forgot, When Kemp did dance alone He did labour After the tabor. For to dance, Then into France. He took pains to skip it In hope of gains. He did trip it On the toe, Diddle diddle diddle doe."
@missmolly2327 3 жыл бұрын
Delightful!
@martintowse6812 6 ай бұрын
I have no previous connection with these places and yet I am fascinated and enchanted thanks John.
@Jonathan-A 3 жыл бұрын
Hi John. As well as litter picking helps right now, Ivy trimming is a great help to the trees and the future. So many are being choked by the ivy. It always grows back giving it's cover to some species, but if left to grow rampant, it always sadly kills the host. No one else is going to do it. Just cut or break the ivy near the ground. One tree per walk is enough. Cheers
@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the advice Jonathan - I shall look to do that on my next walk
@rebekahdunn7262 3 жыл бұрын
I always love your walks. Feels like an old friend is showing me secrets I didn't know existed. Another wonderful video that has transported me to somewhere I'm not able to visit right now. Thankyou.
@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын
thanks Rebekah - hope to get out later to take you on another walk which I'll have online Sunday
@Hammertime054 3 жыл бұрын
That long muddy path, we used to call it the bridal path as kids, and collected our tadpoles in the brook, good old days, nice one johnny boy👍👍👍
@susanmitchell5317 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, how I miss my home town. Thank you.
@melissaquinn1296 3 жыл бұрын
Talking of rivers, have you seen the River Ching recently going through Hatch Forest? At this rate, we will be able to go white water rafting down it. It is truly an awesome sight!
@davidbrignall4815 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating I grew up in Barking 1962-1969 the Roding was unseen at the end of our street (Victoria Road)-history everywhere
@Mouxbar 3 жыл бұрын
Hi John, The double banking of the Roding was done in the mid-70's from memory with the arrival of the M11. The river was also altered then to allow construction. You can see a "null" bridge as you enter Woodford Bridge just by the Ashton Playing Fields entrance. The river used to flow through there and behind Uplands Road - causing frequent flooding of properties. Other areas were purposely left open as flood plains. The football pitches outside Broadmead Flats and Ray Lodge Park being good examples. The banking goes all the way up to Buckhurst Hill railway bridge before the river returns to nature proper. The idea was to allow the river to remain somewhat natural without turning it into a concrete channel. That largely worked I think although the banks can loom over you a bit in some of the more culverted sections. Stay well :-)
@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for that Mouxbar - this was only recently pointed out to me in the summer on the video where I walk along the nature reserve between Wanstead and Charlie Brown's roundabout. Hadn't realised that before on my Roding walks
@GeeMak999 3 ай бұрын
Thank you and Yes I feel the rivers spirits
@bakerloobadboy 3 жыл бұрын
As always another great video and this one more so, as you actually filmed on the pavement right outside my house. The gate / barrier across the Aldersbrook where it goes underneath the railway (was always known as The Butts for some reason) was put there by the railway to replace an older smaller one. This is because the modern day "Underground construction and tunnelling academy" is built on the site of Aldersbrook House which was a British Rail Staff Hostel (the building was still there as late as 1995) and the fence / barrier was put there to keep out unwanted visitors. Ilford railway depot would be a stop over / terminus point for rail crews working into London Liverpool Street or Broad street. Staff would stay overnight at the hostel before working their route home the next day. Surprising that the ladies who you met that were litter picking said they hadn't heard of the Aldersbrook as it is well represented in the area. To get from Wanstead Flats into Empress Avenue (where the UK government tested Citizens Band radio in the 70's) you had to cross Aldersbrook Road. The tunnel under the railway brought you out into Aldersbrook Lane. You walked along Daines Close (Possibly a vague link to the Danes stranded up towards Hertford when the River Lea was Diverted to trap them) to look over the wall for the Aldersbrook. I took some pictures from Ilford Bridge where you filmed the Aldersbrook joining the Roding a couple of days before you were there and the water was much higher. Ordinarily you can see the junction of the Roding and the Aldersbrook because the water from Aldersbrook is much dirtier and easier to spot in the very tidal river Roding The chapel at the top of Ilford Hill has probably only survived this far because it is a place of worship, otherwise I have no doubt that some developer would have levelled it and built on top of the remains. As always, your videos are epic. Can't wait for the next one
@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for all that info John
@bakerloobadboy 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnRogersWalks You're welcome. I got interested in the local history of my area when I visited the Passmore Edwards museum in Stratford whilst still at school. I was always amazed by (for example) an old out of place building tucked in amongst all the new ones and was fascinated to learn its history . So many of your video's relate to areas I know, have lived in or worked in. You bring those areas to life with your video's.
@lesliegprice6652 3 жыл бұрын
History is just beneath our feet, it certainly is thanks for uncovering some glimpses into the mystery, The Way of Wyrd is one of my favourite books, thank you John, stay safe,stay well, see you soon ♥🌈⭐☯️
@amandajane8227 3 жыл бұрын
I love your blue beanie and matching blue rain jacket. I found them as soothing to view as the walk was to wander with you. I grew up in seven kings and Ilford was the shopping centre. I never knew there was such a historic building there.
@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like the blue beanie Amanda, I'm very fond of it
@alexjacobs8874 3 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoying your walks John, all the best from South Wales
@robbojax2025 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful memories in this one. One of my childhood playgrounds was along the bridle path next to the cemetery to Wanstead Park. The area under the railway was known by as as the Butts. There was only a small fence then and we could climb onto the dam and follow the brook around to Ilford Bridge. Keep 'em coming.
@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for that Robert. Actually the two ladies I met doing the litter pick mentioned the Butts so it's still in use
@johnnyrich1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Until I was 18 I lived on Exeter Gardens which joins Wanstead Park Road opposite the entrance to the park. I used to go to Highlands junior school which you stood in front of on your cranbrook video. I remember having school sports afternoons on the greens where the north circular now is, that's my memory of wanstead park and it was lovely and peaceful there, you used you walk straight down and not take the dog leg that you now do over the roadnbridge. I can't even say I felt nostalgic as I never explored where you went in this video and feel a bit sad about that but its magical that you did this walk. Ive got plenty of family buried in the city of London cemetery and actually had no idea it was so close. The area where you walked from felt like a million miles away then. Amazing stuff, thoroughly enjoyed your journey!
@johnsaunders2109 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I come from the other side of London. East London is like another city to me, so I am grateful for videos such as this.
@Mick_Holland 3 жыл бұрын
Beautifully captured, John. Pretty much anywhere in Britain there is always the potential that under each footfall there are millennia of human history, particularly along our rivers where many thousands of people have walked. I can almost feel their vibrations coming through the soles of my boots when I stand at a river confluence. Cheers 👍🏽
@telemachus53 3 жыл бұрын
You see beauty, wonderment, admiration for everything you chance upon. Even if it's in Ilford, which must be one the most depressing areas of London. Good for you - and for us too!
@johncarter2573 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks John. I lived in Ilford in the 70s. Great place to be. Room at the top, tiffany's and the best one the lacy lady.
@Lingwaixiaowai 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks John, another great walk. Spotted at least one alder tree at 22:30.
@brianarthur3798 3 жыл бұрын
I've been watching your videos for a few months now and really look forward to them. I also bought your book This Other London, which I found entertaining and informative. Although I live in Lincolnshire these days, I was born and grew up in Forest Gate, close to Wanstead Flats, so for me your videos are like a walk down memory lane. Please keep making them and I'll keep watching.
@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын
thanks very much Brian - I'll certainly keep making the videos - the next two are already planned
@CyclingSteve 3 жыл бұрын
Growing up in Manor Park I discovered the Aldersbrook from maps, having wondered where the road got it's name from. I was surprised to find it was already known to us kids as 'the stream', you tried not to fall in the stream while climbing over the concrete wall under the railway bridge (one of our hangouts). It doesn't surprise me that the locals don't know of it's existence, most think Wanstead Flats is called Wanstead Park. You surprised me with Mill Rd, I had forgotten the horror of cycling through there as it was a great alternative to the muddy lane alongside the brook.
@AMuhith 3 жыл бұрын
I did the same! I remember climbing the concrete wall as a child and then crossing Aldersbrook, there was a gas pipe that used to go across it which we used to dare one another to attempt otherwise use the bricks/stones that were on the water. I remember going under the railway bridge and into Ilford golf course! Nostalgic
@jackysmith1763 3 жыл бұрын
Been looking forward to your video. So calming In these troubled times. Loved seeing the Aldersbrook flowing. I felt your excitement! Thank you.
@COBBETT1215 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another wonderful journey John. As is sometimes the case your film triggered memories. I grew up in Ashville Road Leytonstone and I have wonderful summer memories of my mates and I, (early 60's), making our way to Wanstead flats via Cathall Road and Harrow Green. We'd spend long sunny afternoons roaming hither and thither. I can still recall the sense of liberation as we came to the flats and the sense of limitless freedom as they opened up before us. I may be wrong but I'm sure that what became Jubilee ponds was then drained and rather unsightly. I remember walking across to the islands, then just large mounds girded by concrete slabs lined with what looked like asphalt. But my memory may be at fault. Thanks again for another great film.
@rubbberrobbie 3 жыл бұрын
Never knew about the chapel and Ive been past there so many times!! Thanks for taking us along.
@mheuman Жыл бұрын
Loved the chapel at the end. 5hanks for the tour!
@leonardpringle312 2 жыл бұрын
John thanks for your film clips which makes walking around so much more interesting , please keep doing what do so well
@elariovende2575 3 жыл бұрын
Can't tell you how much me and my family enjoy your videos John. We always throw on a video together after supper have made a real routine of it. Thank you for the quality of your work !
@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын
thanks so much Ealrio - really wonderful to hear that
@diannereeks1150 3 жыл бұрын
Your enthusiasm is infectious. Thx for this great walk.
@neilhogbin7252 3 жыл бұрын
Love Wanstead Flats ! A place still fairly unmanicured, because it does n't need it . As always Great unearthing.Cheers John.
@zalanafridi8185 2 жыл бұрын
Nice peaceful walk, I think. Good on you. Thanks a lot
@saywhen8582 3 жыл бұрын
I was born and raised in Wanstead, I live in Texas now and have been for the last 25 years and I miss Wanstead so much. Great job John keep it up, your videos are fantastic...
@onetruth843 3 жыл бұрын
Why this channel doesn't have millions of subscribers? Truly soothing to watch with a perfect storytelling pace. Simply brilliant.
@robertbarling5601 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you John for a wonderful video. I must get my sister to watch it as she lives just around the corner from the hospital chapel on Ilford hill. Bob.
@mtaha6517 3 жыл бұрын
I love east London due to my journey of completion n then separation.
@Divinemessages69 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Yorkshire now, but Wanstead Flats, Ilford, Barking, East Ham and Dagenham is my old stomping ground, it was lovely to see some familiar places along your walk thank you for sharing, it was delightful!
@alfredogreco5095 3 жыл бұрын
Lived in seven kings for a few years and passed that chapel unknowingly many times. Wished I knew it was there at the time, would of loved to see it in person. Thanks for your engrossing videos.
@carolynjones6116 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you John for another trip down memory lane , love Carolyn from cedars road
@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын
all the best Carolyn
@richardsuperfine826 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see my hometown of Ilford again. I haven't lived there for 24 years. Looks like there have been many changes. Love the river walks too. Looking forward to your walk to the River Roding source at Molehill Green...WHENEVER THAT MAY BE!
@annpeerbaccus2793 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed and it good to know how back the area goes. Love to hear Barking Abbey
@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын
thanks Ann - here's a video from 2017 where I visit Barking Abbey kzfaq.info/get/bejne/htGPjJN8x9S6g6M.html
@annpeerbaccus2793 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnRogersWalks thank you.
@GeorgeChoy 3 жыл бұрын
I too look forward to your next walk.
@pomme800 3 жыл бұрын
If you keep your sense of curiosity and wonder, an unjaded view on life and it's daily discoveries, you never grow old...Thank you John
@adrianmcdonagh57 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you John. Fantastic and educational as always
@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын
my pleasure glad you enjoyed it Adrian
@stevenspraggs4953 3 жыл бұрын
that old pubat 29 59 think it used to have a sign on it that said the bit on the end was for coah and horses i often wonder how old it is shut down now very sadly great one john thank you steve
@annmc8392 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the walk and information.
@yasmeenrtubv1841 3 жыл бұрын
The ilford chapel has open days where you can be guided for free inside .
@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын
thanks Yasmeen - I'd love to go for a look around one day
@annetteoutram 3 жыл бұрын
how do I found out when these are. I would love to go inside again after all these years.
@TracyPicabia 3 жыл бұрын
Bucket list must do. It looks like it belongs in Bruges or the arse end of Prague
@BaronMichaelDeBlone1066 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Yasmeen, noted, I would love to visit this building one day.
@cgj3888 3 жыл бұрын
Another wonderful mystery tour in East London More of what I missed when journeying thro Ilford Pleasure to share SMILES 👍🇬🇧👌
@daveconyard8946 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you John "Fascinating" Walk, Keep safe Looking forward to the Next. Dave in Yorkshire.😊
@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын
thanks very much Dave - hope you haven't got too much snow up there
@darrenrobson5977 3 жыл бұрын
Oh ma favourites prehistoric sites and small rivers. The Alders Brook is a live and well just beautiful
@bazzad6108 2 жыл бұрын
A wonderfully evocative video, John. I was particularly fascinated and astonished by the hidden gem that is the Hospital Chapel in Ilford. It truly is incredible how one place can relate and connect to another without ever seeming to be linked on the face of it, geographically or historically: where I live, in Dunfermline, there is a site called Malcolm Canmore's Tower, which is reputed to have been constructed in the 10th or 11th century. All that remains today are a few fragments of the foundation. But I mention it because Queen Maud ( who became Henry I 's wife ) was born in the tower in 1068. And David I of Scotland, Canmore's son, would have known the Tower intimately. I had no idea either of them had an association with the Ilford Hospital Chapel.
@lukeharris8806 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another fantastic, educational and interesting walk John - I love these they are so calming and absorbing...really looking forward to the next one .... wherever that may be 😁
@gramilwolf3448 3 жыл бұрын
There's a friends of Wanstead park as you must know. They organised a visit to the site of the big house some years ago. Don't forget how Astronomy was big around Wanstead too. Great video. So London sick am I. Really miss Leytonstone et al.
@federicoriccobono651 3 жыл бұрын
What an incredible exploration! Mister Rogers, thank you so much for your delicate and elegant presentation and compliments for your lively eruduction. This is how places really bring history to life! (from Italy - Milano).
@gemmacorby5745 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this video and so many of your others too. I learn so much from them and can’t wait to visit London again, so I can see it with new eyes. Thank you!
@JohnRogersWalks 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gemma
@GettingPsychedelic 3 жыл бұрын
I've picked up an old copy of 'The Way of Wyrd' from eBay after watching this, looking forward to reading it. Thanks for the recommendation
@peterwalton1502 3 жыл бұрын
Haven’t been for a walk with you for sometime. Excellent walk and very interesting John 👍👍
@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын
thanks Peter
@davidosborne3187 3 жыл бұрын
We are getting to know about London John from your wonderful walking episodes. We went on your two day break to Hampton Court yesterday and boy did it bring back memories!! 34 years ago we were living in eastern Canada and we went on a vacation back to the UK with our two very young daughters. One of our stops was the maze and grounds at Hampton court and your walk took us right back there. We look forward to going back on your previous walks to learn more about our homeland. Thanks John!! David, Alberta Canada🇨🇦
@iji5kpdy784 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, always wondered about the beautiful old chapel. Hopefully can oneday join the Friends of River Roding.
@raythorn1736 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks John, top form today. Brighten up a dull January afternoon.
@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ray
@rrygor 3 жыл бұрын
Another great walk John, thank you for taking us with you. I lived for many years in Leytonstone, not far from the start of the walk, and from 2000 to 2007 worked in the car dealership (it is now Nissan, but I was there when it was Renault). I have walked the Ilford part many times, and sat on the benches in the chapel garden. Thinking about the high water level, reminded me of a few days while I was at the garage, when we had the Roding and Aldersbrook, both ‘burst their banks’ and the footpath and Romford Road were closed for several hours. Enjoyed this greatly. See your next one....whatever it may be!
@gabriellaclarke9834 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved that, thanks John
@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын
that's great - thanks Gabriella
@chrismccartney8668 3 жыл бұрын
I met a fisherman many years ago who said u can catch founders on a high tide as he fished on bridge to water works lands with the water running up stream !!!. I like the stream from Golf Course into the Shoulder of Mutton pond which once had a huge swans nest at confluence with the pond....
@waynejacksonofficial 3 жыл бұрын
Another great walk.. Thanks mush..
@megacapulet6470 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful and so interesting ,ive read so many books about London and yet all this is new to me, thanks John i look forward to watching all your previous vids .
@missmolly2327 3 жыл бұрын
Beguiling, illuminating, enchanting....The way you dig out the history beneath the urban landscape it beguiles and enchants me! From your fan in BC Canada, who was born in Ilford. And the chapel......what a delight, who knew it was there?
@anthonyhatfull5484 3 жыл бұрын
Another nice one John. I lived in Ilford for ten years from the mid 70`s to the mid 80`s. When we first moved there long before the redevelopment`s the Ilford Film`s factory dominated Ilford Hill opposite what was once Ilford Police Station. In Cranbrook Rd there is a pub in a building that was once Comet electrical,and Timberland DIY. The pub is called The Great Spoon of Ilford,and is dedicated to Will Spoon who was supposed to have done the dancing thing.Perhaps he was an imitator?
@bakerloobadboy 3 жыл бұрын
The history of the Great Spoon pub revolves around Will Kemp who did his dancing thing. It is almost certain that he would have stopped in Ilford for a drink or two (Ilford was much safer back then) However the term "Spoon" is actually a measurement of beer equal to 2 pint. Maybe "Will" and "Spoon" became entwined over time to become confused as a single person
@anthonyhatfull5484 3 жыл бұрын
@@bakerloobadboy Fair enough. I had moved from Ilford to Beckton before that pub was opened. It was possible to walk from Wanstead Park Rd to The Flat`s before they built the A406 Barking Relief Rd. Keep `em coming.
@bakerloobadboy 3 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyhatfull5484 I remember those days when High Street North was the North Circular Road (which continued up into Wanstead Flats past Manor Park Station etc) Nowadays you have to walk until you find one of the new footbridges they built in order to cross the "New North Circular"
@anthonyhatfull5484 3 жыл бұрын
@@bakerloobadboy So you must remember The Denmark arms opposite the Town Hall. It bore the legend" Luncheon Rooms Upstairs" a reminder of a more genteel age. I don`t know if it`s still open,as cI moved to Torbay many moon`s ago.
@anthonyhatfull5484 3 жыл бұрын
@@bakerloobadboy You mentioned William The Conqueror.At the top of High St. North and Barking Road there is/was? The William The Conqueror pub that we used to frequent when I worked at the old MFI store opposite,before it moved to Marsh Gate Lane Stratford. I wonder if William used to pop in there for a few pints of Stella? :)
@ubuntuworld007 3 жыл бұрын
Wow,brilliant video,my home town
@stevesoultrain2406 3 жыл бұрын
I'm born and bread ilford boy I'm 52 now I've found some old history myself the places I found in ilford amazing I do love the history in general love your videos 👌🏻💯
@ralphwinter6421 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks John, a lovely walk..
@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching Ralph
@ronstokes5787 Жыл бұрын
In the Eighties I worked along the Romford Road and I would see a man of the road, he would walk between Stratford and Romford and do chalk drawings on the pavement. His name was Peter. Very talented man.
@Herne72 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks John 👍 brilliant stuff
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